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something with a little more power , they got 100watt (20w) versions of these bulbs that are a lot bigger on amazon but a panel is gonna be the best bang for your buck , These ones are cheap and efficient
If you have these hanging in the open they will annoy you with it's blue/purple colors and are not good for your eyes. Try getting full spectrum LED.
Look up Quantum boards from horticulture lighting group or Atreum Boards, Amazon may not have them. They are generally more efficient and give off nice white light which will not annoy you and even brighten up the room!
A Quantum Board 65 Kit (65Watt real draw) is about 100$ and available on Amazon and should be enough for a first light but probably underpowered for 4x4 but for half shaded plants this will work fine. Most use them to grow weed which likes a lot of light. Veg/bloom switches are mostly for weed, yes.
But sure, the QB are a bit bare and not that pretty yet really lightweight aesthetically...so who knows.
The Maxsisun 300W has about 130W real draw (the 300W is misleading since it's just an euivalent to HPS lights. So it draws 130W which is equivalent to a 300W HPS light) but is probably less efficient than the QB.
I'm growing Chilis with a DIY Fixture with full white LED comparable to the QB ones. I started out with a Viparspectra 300W (basically same as the Maxisun) so i know em both. Gonna take the Viparspectra apart soon to exchange the LED to full white ones. Will never touch the blue/purple lights again :D
If you can't afford the more expensive QB304/288/255/130, check out these complete kits on amazon for the hlg 65 board they sell.
It will replace a marshydro 300w with 65w of power draw, and only 30 watts of heat output. The mars 300w has a true 132w of power draw, and outputs 100 watts of heat.
It will also replace up to 400w of CFLs, which put out 360w of heat.
Good enough to cover a 2x2' space if you're not looking for anything wild. Ive pulled more than a quarter pound under a "300w" blurple led panel, so expect similar possibilities with the hlg 65.
Yes, if you have the room and this higher CCT will be more ideal for what you want. 13,500 lumens is about 2.5 square feet of higher intensity grow area. Get a lux meter!
But this high quality light will work far better, has a Mean Well LED driver with Samsung LEDs, and is 4300K (tested):
Ignore /u/slight_fact. The guy is a dangerous troll who gives lethal electrical advice, doesn't know the subject matter, and doesn't even own a $20 light meter yet gives lighting "advice".
oh ok it looks different on amazon...https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-High-Efficiency-Upgraded/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?crid=2IM94XHNJNN8W&keywords=horticulture+light&qid=1653793690&sprefix=horticulture+light+%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-2-spons&uf...
I suggest one of these: HLG 65 V2 4000K Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom 4000K | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded Samsung LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_72DRRTFCRD4GTJN4F321?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
The lights you have just won’t be enough to produce the buds you are looking for.
Go for quality, get this guy for a 1x1
HLG 65 V2 4000K Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom 4000K | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded Samsung LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_FPRX89EZZ9RM3ZV5ZR9Z
I don't think the strip lights would be bright enough. Some company my make some that are, but all the strip lights I've seen were nowhere near bright enough.
Here is a Amazon link to the next light I'm going to buy. https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-High-Efficiency-Upgraded/dp/B076QDKVDZ
They have them at my local garden store. They even had some setup with plants that they are growing, and they had a nice color to them, and looked nice and bright.
I'm not sure of the size of your setup, but this light is made to cover a two foot by two foot square.
You are not going to do better than a quantum board and they are over twice as efficient than T-8 or T-5 fluorescent lights, which are obsolete, and over 50% more efficient than cheap Chinese grow lights with generic LEDs. When electricity costs are factored in you will save money by buying a light with high end LEDs. Only buy a quantum board that uses Samsung LEDs.
Don't buy in to the "600w" scam common on Amazon. Cheap grow light sellers play a deceptive game of saying that their light may be "600w" or "1000w" when they may only be 100 watts true. Quality sellers that have integrity do not play these games where they give one number but the light actually draws far less power. Never buy a light from these sort of scammers because you are going to get junk LEDs.
This example light is good for about four square feet of herbs:
A good light probably going to run you 100-200 for a 1-2 plant set up. This one was recommended to me the other day for a small 1 plant grow https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ?ref_=bl_dp_s_mw_18674157011
Heard you can find em cheaper on alibaba app
HLG 65 V2 4000K Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom 4000K | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_pW9UCbD1SQFCK
Lot of people seem to be using these lights.
Not enough light man use way more than 2 bulbs. They are not 50W draw...
Its crazy how many people are worrying about spectrum and color temperature but only using 8 watts worth of lighting
Depends on how much you’d like to spend. An HLG65 would probably be perfect for her, you can find em on Amazon here.
HLG 65 Quantum Board LED Grow Lamp Veg & Bloom 4000K https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_wOz.Bb0FT0XJ0
If you’d like to go with something cheaper I would just try and find something that puts out more than 100 Watts.
Those quantum boards look easy and somewhat affordable. Would something like this work for vegging a 4x4? HLG 65 Quantum Board LED Grow Lamp Veg & Bloom 4000K https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_c-3-AbXGSCNSP from what I’m reading the actually power consumption is only 99 Watts? Thst doesn’t seem like enough to do anything
This little 65w QB is $99:
I've been using it for clones and seedlings and it works great.
I have one of these little QBs for clones and it is very bright. I bet 4 of them would light up a 3x3 pretty well for $400.
HLG65 99 dollars on Amazon.
It's so much better than the purple. I have it in a 20"x20" now.
I've used those "300w" marshydro purples and they're garbage.
The HLG is way better and uses less energy too.
If you're open to alibaba, you can get much more for your money by buying a quantum board there. Should be able to get 200w+ of QB from alibaba... look around here because they're posted all over. They keep changing so I don't bookmark them but they are cheaper than HLG and the same technology.
OR you could easily grab two 65w QBs off Amazon for $200 and have 130w QB lighting in there which is a bit less than most people recommend, but so would two viparspectras be.
2x4 should be 400 TRUE WATTS (not advertised numbers) of blurple, or 200-240w of QB by most people's calculations.
Those two viparspectras are likely not even close to 400w of true blurple lighting. They may say "600w" or "1000w" each but that's a lie. Read further down on the item description and it will tell you the true draw, which is likely closer to 100w each than anything else. So your two viparspectras would probably be like HALF the lighting you need, while your two QBs would be more than that, and way better lighting overall with better penetration for faster growth.
My little 65w QB beats the brakes off a 135w blurple I used to use for reference.
I’m not familiar with quantum boards, i’m guessing just a newer tech? Google search showed what looks like LED Strips? Would they be convenient for a small tent?
I was going to say the same thing. Those COBs look great but very expensive.
I put a 65w HLG in a 20"x20" and it's doing great. https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ
100w HLG would be awesome too but Amazon seems to have lost it (or I just can't find it).
HLG 65 V2 4000K Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom 4000K | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded Samsung LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fab_6RpFFbT9B0XM3
I’m also using the fox farm trio, half the dose. With fox farm happy frog organic soil. These are the lights I’m using HLG 65 V2 4000K Horticulture... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
UV for mammals I don't know.
UV for plants is very mixed. There may be benefits from using UV for the red lettuce cultivars. A lot of the latest research points to UV lowering yield and potency in cannabis or having no affect, for example.
Cannabis Yield Increased Proportionally With Light Intensity, but Additional Ultraviolet Radiation Did Not Affect Yield or Cannabinoid Content
Cannabis Inflorescence Yield and Cannabinoid Concentration Are Not Improved with Long-Term Exposure to Short-Wavelength Ultraviolet-B Radiation
I recommend a type of very high efficient light called a "quantum board" that uses Samsung LM301B or LM301H LEDs preferably with a Mean Well LED driver. This is one light that I use:
A color temperature of 4000K (basically how much blue light there is in the white light source) is slightly higher for all around use but very close to what I recommend for all around use of 3000K or 3500K. It's perfect for getting plants started for outdoor use.
For super fast growth/cannabis in flowering you would want at least 30 watts per square foot using these very efficient lights. Around 1/2 that for slower general vegetative growth.
Oh no that sucks..
I think this may suit you better. Great brand.
Before you buy any led lights you need to know what plants are you going to keep there and how many shelves if any are you going to install. There is a general rule regarding led lamps - the more wattage, the more powerful lamp and the greater distance between light and plant. It's important cos baggebo is small AF.
To give you an example : My bggebo is a prop station. I have four shelves and distance between lights and plants is approximately 5-10 cm. Only suitable source of light would be led stripes 14-18 wat per 1 meter. No less cos it would be not enough to sustain photosynthesis ( Yeelight is 3,75 wat per 1m) and no more cos it would burn my plants to ashes in such a close proximity. To evenly distribute light across the shelf I would need at least two rows, preferably three rows of light per shelf.
To give you another example: Here you have light recommendation for houseplants. As you can see aroids need 150-350 PPFD to grow nicely and not to burn. Now let's have a look at 65 wat lamp suggested by our fellow redditor. Pictures show that lamp gives 290 PPFD at the distance of 45 cm from the lamp, in the centre. . Above that is a death zone for many tropical foliage plants. It's half of baggebo..... Only high and very high light plants would grow healthy close to the lamp. If you really wanted such a strong light for tropical foliage you would have to hang rather small plants on the walls of baggebo where light intensity is lower.
Do you mean something like this?
Led shop lights:
Then if you want to pay more HLG:
HLG 65 V2 4000K Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom 4000K | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded Samsung LM301B LED's https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_-OO.Fb2FJDJC1
These are plenty bright for a 1x2:
You can get similar but cheaper lights from Alibaba if you're willing to deal with ordering from China. I've heard good things from "Meijiu" and "King Brite" brands, but I don't have any firsthand experience.
If money is tight,you can get less bright LED lights and they'll probably work just fine. I prefer "quantum board" style because they're less hard on the eyes, but many people grow perfectly good crops using the red/blue lights.
How is this ??
A quantum board will grow you more weed, better weed, and cost less per gram in electricity. They're also not much more expensive anymore with Alibaba.
If you must use Amazon, https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-High-Efficiency-Upgraded/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=hlg65&qid=1566165037&s=gateway&sr=8-1
two of those will grow you two nice plants and will give you more actual wattage than that "600w" blurple.
If you can use Alibaba, go there and get a 240w QB for $135-150 or whatever. You'll grow more weed from those two plants than you can possibly smoke with a nice QB.
Ordered this one
HLG 65 V2 4000K Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom 4000K | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_i3MKDbN8MT81N
Thinking of getting this one
Horticulture Lighting Group HLG 100 V2 3000K Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_e4MKDbRYJXDE7
Would 165 watts be too much for them? And how far away should i keep each one? The 65 watt says about 20 inches I'm assuming the 100watt will be slightly more
I see this one for $99. HLG 65 4000K. Thanks for the input, something like this might be a better buy. I know there are cheaper brands but I like the reputable name for lights. https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-High-Efficiency-Upgraded/dp/B076QDKVDZ
qb is a quantum board.
this is a cree cob
I’ve only had this for a few days but I’m super happy with it. I believe you could get away with just one but I’m definitely not the lighting expert. https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-High-Efficiency-Upgraded/dp/B076QDKVDZ
Look forward to something like those ones. Maybe your local growshop has something like this or just order it from amazon. Be careful the need driver(power supply) to power them. Look if they have one with board. Choose wattage according to your grow box. You can make ~1.5g per watt if you do everything right.
Also read and view reviews on youtube and amazon before you buy something.
In my area we have those lights widely used by growers. Search for something like this:
Wish you best luck with your plants :) If you have questions feel free to ask ;)
> alibaba personally but have also tried Meijiu and they are almost identical. They're dimmable and come pre-assembled (minus a couple of wago connectors you have to attach yourself - super easy).
With shipping being $40 for that 65w board might as well just get the HLG from Amazon for almost the same exact price...
Would something like this work? https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-High-Efficiency-Upgraded/dp/B076QDKVDZ
Yeah your tent is the right size for flowering 4 medium-large plants or 9 smaller ones (like if you took clones of a photoperiod strain). Anyway, 3 autos have a good chance to not even fill up the whole space, which could be good for your first run not having to invest as much in lights all at once.
"Quantum board" specifically is a name brand by the company HLG that I mentioned in the previous post. They're really good and use the highest efficiency LM301B Samsung diodes but require a bit of assembly unless you want to pay a whole bunch extra. No soldering or anything though, just some screws and wire connectors This 260W kit for $350 would cover most of your tent at a full flowering brightness and spectrum. It would probably require that plus a second smaller light to completely cover the 3x3. Which could work out great if you started off with a small cheaper light during veg for the first few weeks and then add the bigger light later on.
My suggestion if you wanted to do that would either be to start with the small HLG boards you can get preassembled on amazon (two of the 65w $100 HLG65 or one of the 100W $150 HLG100) or one 150W $140 MarsHydro SP-150.
I would not suggest any of the other MarsHydro lights besides the SP-150 or SP-250. Those are their only ones with a proper heat sink and high efficiency diodes. They are not quite as efficient as the quantum boards but are fairly close and are much cheaper than any other preassembled light in this efficiency range with a decent build quality.
Another option with the same type of Samsung diodes as the HLG in another form factor are the chilled logic pucks I mentioned like this 400W 4 puck system for $600 which would absolutely completely cover the entire tent right off the bat and could even be dimmed down while plants are younger.
In that size of a tent I would 100% just do one at a time and focus on getting as much as you can from it. I've gotten 200g+ from my mephistos. I would get this light https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ
Don't be silly, buy a quantum board
For just a few more dollars you could have gotten a much better grow light. This grow light on Amazon is 99 dollars opposed to 68 or 69 and is made by the horticulture group. It also has 4k lighting. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076QDKVDZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is within my price range is this a decent one for a few plants?
Would this one be a good start https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_rnU4CbD00FPCB
I have a few different lights but for my jalapeño plant I’m using a HLG 65 V2 4000K Horticulture... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Any thoughts on the HLG lights? Many said they are the best on the market right now, wondering if anyone has any experience with them and how they compare? https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ and https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-3000K/dp/B07C59J8L2 and if you can only go with one color for a mix of plants in a area, is 3000k or 4000k better for everyone and their different stages?
If you want to save yourself some time and effort grab a couple HLG65's. 2 would be a perfect amount of light for the area you're planning. They also sell a 4 pack of the boards on their own here. That + this and you have a 250w LED for around $200 depending on the shipping for the driver. That's the best bang for your buck in LED lighting currently. Although I'm not sure on the price to put together a similar strip light right now, it's been 6-8 months since I've priced that.
So would this be a solid system for my tent size? https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ
Well if you are not going CMH and only want LED...
Do you want to DIY
or just plug it in?
I would stay way from any of the cheap Chinese LED lights like Roleadro, Mars Hydro and similar. The light that I would recommend for your setup would be the HLG-65 from Horticulture Lighting Group. This light uses top bin Samsung S6 diodes which are extremely efficient. They put out a ton of light and use very little power. This light also generates very little heat and doesn't require a heatsink or fans. It produces white light at 4000k which is a little warmer then sun light. I recently bought two of these boards and they have fantastic for vegetative growth.
HLG 65 on amazon
Maybe a few of these?
They also sell lights on amazon that are comparable in size and output to that Chinese blurple
150w cfl equivalent (actually though, not some bullshit figure like on those bulbs you posted)
This is a great veg light