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If you’re cool with a 6 button layout and only sticking to fighting games, I really like the Hori Fighting Commander series of controllers; specifically the Xbox ones. Unsure how the Sony ones stack up, but these Amazon reviews are pretty positive for the PS4 variant.
If you’re willing to invest in something that will last a little longer (hopefully), I got a friend of mine a Xbox Elite Controller with a converter for PS4/5 and it’s his daily driver for everything. People have had issues with it, but it’s been two years and no complaints from him so far.
Best of luck with the search bud.
Are you in the States? Amazon has Fighting Commander Pros for $60, but they also have a newer model without the adjustable d-pad for $40:
Well the mini controller won't break your wallet at $30 ($20 on amazon right now). Unfortunately It would seem that it is PS4 only. The original PS3 Fighting Commanders are rare and if they suffer from the same issues as I experienced then I would avoid it. I just realized that they redesigned the PS4/3 Fighting Commander is the original design they used for the Hori Mini PS4 controller. So I would totally grab one new! ($40 no less)
I would highly recommend learning an arcade stick in the future as there seems to be much purchasing options for you. I did indeed come from an Arcade background. Well over 20 years ago my home console was a SEGA Saturn; so I had that perfect 6 button controller for games like Darkstalkers and Street Fighter Alpha (the saturn arcade stick is kind of a piece of shit). When the Dreamcast came out along with that lackluster controller for Fighting Games and I switch to the Hori/Agetec arcade stick. When the original Xbox came out I switched back to controller after trying every single Fight Stick that came out on it (pelican, Nuby, etc) and hated every single one of them.
Street Fighter 4 came out and Madcatz and Hori stepped up the game with making high quality and more importantly; available arcade sticks, so I never looked back.
I bind A and B to L1/L2 so I can hold them down.
The Hori Fighting Commander is great for playing Hilde. I alternate between that and a Mayflash F500 Elite, but SC doesn't really benefit from a fight stick (generally, according to the community).
I have a similar model Hori Fighting Commander and it works on PS5 just like it was plugged into a PS4. Yours will probably work fine too.
Mine for reference:
the hori fighting commander is pretty good if you don't mind it being wired: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GVOFIAA/
most low latency wireless 6-button controllers are done in the style of the sega saturn controller, so they mostly have a circular dpad.
i've used the m30 to play fighting games and i personally love it. i would suggest you try it out and return it if you don't like it
This one looks really good and it's a pretty decent price too. Thanks for the tips.
Depends on what you are trying to use it for. I love a d-pad so the hori fighting commander is great for me.
HORI Fighting Commander for PlayStation 4 & 3 Officially Licensed by Sony - PlayStation 4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_64VG1RF1EDFNFVK1ZDGA
First I'll just say, I've been playing fighting games on pad for 25+ years, and I still miss inputs an annoying amount of the time. Some people are just naturally able to get better at them. I get around this weakness by simply being smarter in neutral.
That said, this is the best pad I've ever used in terms of minimizing errors, but they break down a little after a couple hundred hours of use in my experience.
Well that's an interesting point of view:
>But moving a lever requires moving your entire wrist as opposed to just twitching your thumb.
This sounds like it would tire the hand much faster and I've never considered it before!
> You can kind of think of stick as a Lower sensitivity way to do input.
And that's something I'd like to try, but just because it seams more forgiving.
>I can feel the corners of a square gate so I know I'm in a diagonal position. Dpads don't often provide that feedback.
This. I must admit, I feel like this would make quite the difference in the learning process, as a clear feedback can help solidify a correct movement.
>If you're on PC you can try using a Saturn USB controller for a bigger dpad.
I'm on console, but that's looking good as well! So I've found a Hori, as you said, what do you think about [this]https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Commander-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=KRKP1H909UG9&dchild=1&keywords=playstation+fight+pad&qid=1631559764&sprefix=PlayStation+fig&sr=8-3 ?
Here is my recommendation for anyone getting a new pad for fighting games: The HORI Fighting Commander for PlayStation 3 & 4.
This has been my favorite pad to play GG on by far.
Yeah man, I would highly recommend getting off the Xbox controller, the Dpad on them is so damn taxing and not as responsive as it should be. When I made the switch it helped so much with hand fatigue/cramping. You don't realize how much energy you expend trying to get a crappy pad to work until you switch to a good one.
Also if you make the switch: Don't stress if you find yourself accidentally hitting the R1 R2 face buttons a lot at first, it's just your hands getting used to different controller spacing and you'll adapt quickly.
I'm typically a stick user, but when I first got Strive I didn't have a stick yet.
In the meantime I used a Hori Fighting Commander, which is basically a controller with a massive d-pad and a stick button layout. I really liked it!
I got the Hori fighting commander (PS4 version that also works on PC) and it served me for about a year and a half. Some of the face buttons got sticky after a couple of months, but it was still going strong. It's not super durable, but it's a good one nonetheless. Here's the link to the model I used.
There is also a newer version of that controller called "octa" that has an 8-way analog stick and uses micro switches for buttons that should last you much longer than the old one. The pad though seems a bit divisive. Some people say it's great, others say it's really bad. I'm getting one soon since my old one is not properly working anymore, but I can't recommend the new one since I haven't tried it myself yet.
hori fighting commander. (Amazon link) it's only $40 and mine has lasted me close to 3 years. works for pc ps3 and ps4 and you can switch the controls around so you get 6 face buttons and 2 bumpers.
If you want a controller specialized for fighting games, the HORI Fighting Commander (https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Commander-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B01GVOFIAA) is a good budget controller for PlayStation and PC for $25 on Amazon (price from their site is $40). HORI is a known and popular brand. You don’t have to get a fightpad and I am in no way obligating you, but if you want another solution this is what I recommend.
Go wired, for posterity.
I swear by this one.
This is a bit old now, but I use the Hori Fight Commander. It has 6 face buttons + 4 shoulder buttons which I find pretty useful for keeping all my buttons I need to use on the right side. It has a little toggle on the backside to switch what the shoulder buttons are bound to, either:
L1 R1 R3 L1
L2 R2 or L3 L2
Has a toggle that can switch between ps3, 4 and PC, and has a third toggle switch so you can still use the D Pad as an analogue stick if you wanna ogle your character in the customization menu or whatever.
The D-pad starts out stiff but with a bit of time it becomes a little easier to use. No clicks either, which took some getting used to after coming from an Xbone controller (I sometimes find it hard to hit d/f & d/b), but otherwise I'd say it's pretty great.
Play with one of these https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Commander-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1529371836&sr=1-1&keywords=fighting+commander&dpID=41enwJFFLHL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Commander-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B01GVOFIAA this model right?
You sure you’re just not accustomed to flipping your motions? This is the model i use without issue. But controllers are all preference with comfortability. You may like the ds4 much more than i do. Xbox ones controllers dpad was pretty good too but not terribly comfy.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01GVOFIAA/ref=s9u_simh_gw_i1?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pd_rd_i=B01GVOFIAA&pd_rd_r=4d8b238a-1c22-11e8-9a21-019e4b2648c4&pd_rd_w=KztuI&pd_rd_wg=4ABoh&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_... is this the one?
I'm a bigger fan of this version myself. That ^ one is more customizablel but I dislike its default settings, and the PS4 one I listed does everything I need it to. I use it for 2D platformers as well, so I appreciate it functioning as a regular ass controller and giving me access to the right stick if need be (I once had to finish a stage in Payday 2, an FPS, with it when my steam controller's batteries died!). But really, they're two flavors of the same thing.
Honestly if you feel good about playing on a pad, I would get the Hori Fighting Commander. It's a great controller for fighting games imo.
$40 on Amazon
Not crazy about that d-pad, or d-pads in general?
That bad boy's the only thing I use, and I have no complaints.
Looking at the PS1, Saturn 2, and Genesis 6-button pads, I actually quite like them. They seem perfectly fitting for me. That said, someone else linked to the HORI Fighting Commander which would provide more buttons than the others for hotkeys. What's your take on this - is it worth adding to my list of potential pads, or should I keep away?
Keyboards are better, but gamepads are fine if you use the ones made for fighting games. I am surprised with how many gamepad users play on an Xbox controller... That is one crappy fighting game controller (for example, the shoulder buttons are TERRIBLE for fighting games, but they are great for shooting games).
I use the controller below and it is pretty awesome. I highly recommend it if you do not want to switch to keyboard. It has only a dpad, but it is more accurate than the analog sticks. It does not take too long to get used to though.
DS4 buttons are just too small and spaced too closed together for my taste. Also, the lack of a handle on the right side makes it feel way more comfortable. There is also this version of the HFC, which I find less comfortable due to the lack of a handle on the left side.
Edit: A plus to the HFC is that it's also hardwired, so you won't have to worry about turning off the controller at tournaments. Just plug and play, and when you're done, just pull and go.
I don't own one, but a video I saw showed how awful that d-pad is.
The HORI Fighting Commander looks pretty solid and has a turbo function, though I don't own one either, but I'll bet you are looking for an all-in-one solution and need analog sticks.
Is it better than the newer HORI FC too? I don't really care for the rotatable D-pad and it's a bit cheaper.
I bought a Hori Fighting Commander Pro 4 back when it was on sale for 20$ from my local store and put that pcb into my TE S stick. It works perfect on my pc and on ps4s(no time out).
Switching out the pcb is cheap and easy even for a first timer. There's plenty of instructions out there on how to do it. Just use common sense, ask questions and take your time.
Yeah one of my buddies playing MVC which would be nice, and my other friends do SF, so it would get play time regardless. I would be bummed if i couldn't get it to work out right for Injustice. Now my question is this - Do you use the Joystick on the controller to play Injustice? I fight it so hard to play and generally use the control pad on the controller. Have you used a Fight controller for Injustice?
I used to use the xbox 360 controller with the rotating dpad, which I stuck cardboard because I prefer a really stiff dpad. I transitioned to ps3 and I can say that the dpad on the Hori fighting commander is leagues better than what I was playing on before. It's ps3/ps4/pc compatible so you pretty much have your bases covered
Thank you very much! My friend's going to put in the PCB of this Fighting Commander, would that work?:
Why not get a special fight pad that caters to fighting games. I ordered this with my pre-order of KOF.
I've heard that this is also compatible with PC. There are other models and brands that you can get. However, if you are REALLY going to absorb the fighting game genre and play professionally, eventually you may have to invest in a stick.
Like everyone else says, it's mostly a preference of style and comfort. But it doesn't hurt to at least have a stick to practice with. just in case.
When my friends come over to play we use my xbox one controllers which you can either buy the charge and play cable for it to work immediately or the wireless PC adapter to go with it so you can have multiple controllers if you wants friends over playing. I've heard the PS4 controller works now but have not tested it myself. There is also a Hori gamepad that some people love and I've seen recommended on here
I use the Hori fight commander 4 on my pc. I used to use the xbox 360 controller and it was horrible.
And THIS is why I'm investing in one of THESE - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GVOFIAA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Not that I'm dismaying stick players; i envy their fine-tuned control and there are some things you cannot do with a pad that you can do with a stick. I even tried practicing Bodega-chains with Kyo in KOF XIII with my old 360 stick.
But nothing feels more comfy for me than playing SNK games with pad. Been that way since I started with KOF 98 on the DC. It's a good part of why I love SNK games - All my button are on the face pad, and they're paired up so I just need to press 2 for rolls or blow back. Shoulder buttons are just extra stuff as needed.
Hori makes some damn nice fight sticks and fight pads https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_775A6Q5M68N4VB9VHH1A
If you want a fightpad, then Hori Fighting Commander: amazon link
Or you could get try grabbing the older model, Fighting commander 4: amazon link
Hori Fighting Commander
Hori FC Octa
(Kind of a joke controller but I LOVE this dpad) Logitech F310
Xbox SX controller seems good
Though very expensive I think the Astro C40 is the crown jewel of pads.
I know you said you don't like stick but, if you like kb+m gaming at all, you should strongly consider hitbox/mixbox.
Just to confirm, this is the controller you confirmed works on ps5?
Is that this thing?
Honestly I dig it. Reminds me of the Sega Genesis controller.
the hori fight pad is just a dpad and six face buttons, I used one for a while before I got a stick and it was better for me than the basic playstation pad
Been very happy with this, using it on PC for my fighting games.
I bought this controller exclusively for fighting games: https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Commander-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=hori+FC&qid=1647020009&sr=8-1
I consider that a good controller, I'm not going to blame that, that's number one. Sure, I can blame myself OR the game, if its the controller, well then that means I need a stick. Simple as that.
This is what you want. Could never go back after using it.
I've always loved it. But the Hori Fighting Commander was a perfect replacement for it.
So I decided to pick up BBCF, and I'm loving it! However, all I have is an xbox one controller whose d-pad is not in a natural position for me.
Any recommendations on a fightpad? Would a stick be overkill? Wireless would be nice.
So far, I've seen:
Well that really depends do you want a pad or a fight stick?
For a pad get this: https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Commander-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=3P3K31AZ56Z66&keywords=hori+fighting+commander&qid=1641104512&sprefix=hori+fi%2Caps%2C237&sr=8-2
For a stick get this: https://www.amazon.com/MAYFLASH-Arcade-Stick-F101-Switch/dp/B07D26RD9P/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?crid=22E1VUI3EVICL&keywords=fight+sticks+pc&qid=1641104657&sprefix=fight%2Caps%2C299&sr=8-9
Unfortunately I'm going the $50 range for you because you get what you pay for when it comes to fighting game controllers the more expensive the better. But anyways let me give you my reasons for these. For the Hori I've never used a pad better than this one, most fighting game controler pads stiff or very jankey and un accurate this however is made with a very sturdy but flexible d pad it actually feels better to when you broke it in and wore it out bit. Thing with this controller is that if you use this one and like it you won't need another controller again if you take care of it an not throw the damn thing lol. Now for the stick well it's not the best pretty crappy tbh because of the quality of the parts. However it does work how it's supposed to and its a pretty good stick for $50 if you're trying to learn stick or plan on getting an expensive one later but need a crappy one for now. Again if you get the stick you'd probably want to get a better one down the line.
HORI Fighting Commander for PlayStation 4 & 3 Officially Licensed by Sony - PlayStation 4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_BRXYKVDC669ZH1D1ZWGZ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
$50 and my personal choice
https://www.amazon.com/PowerA-Fusion-Wired-Fightpad-PlayStation-4/dp/B07XQYYFRV/ref=pd_aw_fbt_img_1?pd_rd_w=ixwPP&pf_rd_p=f8d0bc61-829d-4d6f-b209-aa4a95865ce2&pf_rd_r=MMGREEBN7DMXH5P01K9Q&pd_rd_r=789c99a3-cf78-4f31-8078-ecb45b990dcb&am... $35 and great value, super easy to repair
https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Raion-Fightpad-Fighting-Game-Controller/dp/B07YNL6KSB/ref=pd_aw_fbt_img_2?pd_rd_w=1Us2V&pf_rd_p=f8d0bc61-829d-4d6f-b209-aa4a95865ce2&pf_rd_r=VPTNMF1WMYSJ7YNCZX75&pd_rd_r=8133c0df-56da-487f-9f6f-ebc13c58bc23... $70 but hands down best dpad
It's $39.99 on Amazon
Get the HORI FC its $40 on Amazon.
Have you ever tried a Hori fighting commander pad? I'm a Gief main, but mess around with all the characters (beaten Extreme survival with everyone for the FM), and it works great for me.
It's super easy to press two buttons at once and mash or do 360s, the only issue is characters who have to press a light attack and heavy attack button at the same time (Ibuki, Urien, Poison etc.), but I just swap the light and medium buttons for those characters.
Sometimes amazon has it on sale for 20-25$
HORI FC compatible w/ PS4, PS3 & PC
HORI FC compatible w/ Xbox One, 360 & PC
DO NOT GET THIS ONE, THIS ONE IS BAD.
I reccomend this if you want to use a d-pad. My third one is set to arrive today.
Edit: I assumed you're on PC. If you're actually on XBox, you would want this.
280? We are talking about the Hori fighting Commander? https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01GVOFIAA?tag=amz-mkt-chr-ca-20&ascsubtag=1ba00-01000-s1060-win10-other-smile-ca000-pcomp-feature-scomp-wm-5&ref=aa_scomp
Since everyone else covered me, if you're still not convinced, here's a marketed "fighting pad" https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Commander-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B01GVOFIAA no analogs at all.
A bit of background on myself because I feel I was kind of in your shoes back then (deciding between a bunch of different pads vs. getting a stick vs. getting a Hitbox).
I had no prior experience with arcade sticks (I didn't grow up playing in arcades or anything; if anything I grew up on like Dreamcast controllers and keyboards) but I ultimately decided to build a stick because the experience seemed worthwhile. I've gone through a variety of pads playing fighters on PC now and briefly thought I'd stick to keyboard for a while too, but now I ultimately prefer the stick. But between my friends and I who play fighters, and myself after going through so many different controllers, I've found that it purely comes down to preference
You should think about these things when deciding which is the best for you:
Try out a friend's arcade stick (or any controller you're interested in) if that's an option for you; nothing beats being able to just try it hands-on yourself.
Are you able to input the 8 directions on your current controller accurately and reliably? If not, can you reach that point with practice? Because if you can hit the 8 basic directions reliably on command, then you can practice and achieve any complex motions/inputs with time. If you're struggling to hit like up-forward, and keep getting an up instead even after hours of muscle memory practice, maybe then you should consider trying other controllers.
Practice the game normally and play a bunch of matches on your current controller before you jump the gun and swap controllers--every controller takes practice to learn muscle memory on before you can fully judge whether or not it's the controller for you. I personally have made the mistake of thinking "Ohey, this controller will improve my execution!" multiple times only to be disappointed that I make the same mistakes on my new controller that I do on my previous one. Sometimes you just need practice and not a new controller.
Certain things are easier on pad or keyboard than they are on arcade stick (and vice-versa). Every controller kinda has it's pros and cons and none of them are just inherently better at doing every motion than another. On pad my P1 side is stronger than my P2 side, but on arcade stick my P2 side is stronger than my P1 side.
Finally, if you do decide that getting an arcade stick or Hitbox is worth it, consider buying the parts and building it yourself if you're worried about budget. It doesn't make it miraculously cheaper, but it does save you like $10-$40 maybe with the added bonus of being able to customize your layout.
There are also other pad options like this.
tl;dr Controllers come down to preference.
put as much health and defense on your character as possible, do the endless multiverse. Then, buy this controller. It comes with a turbo function.
the ultimate weapon! the turbo feature is perfect for the grind.
My buddy has this one and won't shut up about how great it is.
They also have one for xbox
Recently got this one after using FC4 for quite awhile:
Really like it but at times I notice the thing you mention with down back not being responsive.
I'm in the same situation as you, coming from playing smash 4 competitively for almost a year now and wanted to try SF5. I would recommend either getting the Hori Fighting Commander 4, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_soNkzbF5WZWMH or the Qanba Drone https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I0GEDEY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_hpNkzbN42VHVE
I personally recently purchased the Qanba Drone due to a fighstick being much easier and healthier for my hands and wanting a fighstick as I've heard of how helpful they can be for execution. I at first was going to get a fighting commander 4, and would suggest that if you think you'd prefer pad, but my personal recommendation is a Qanba Drone. It's a bit pricier but it's a quite good stick for the price and can be modded in the future if you decide you really like stick.
Before I buy it, is this the controller that will allow me to set it to play endless overnight? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Pf7jzbEWCC2VQ
You can buy them on amazon now it just came to america later. here
For D-Pad use I've heard a lot of good things about Hori Fight pads.
> PS4 is wireless
lol just went to the store and got this one: https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Commander-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=dp_ob_title_vg I will try when im off work
ok i got this one lol https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Commander-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=dp_ob_title_vg is not the 4 so i hope is just as good
He means this one. Just got it myself yesterday.
I just saw the Amazon page, which list a August 15 release
Hori Fighting Commander
HORI Fighting Commander for PlayStation 4 & 3 Officially Licensed by Sony - PlayStation 4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_FbabEbYYCE14K
How are you holding the controller? A lot of people find that using a claw grip on your right hand, meaning you press the buttons with your index and middle finger, is easier than using your thumb. Have you considered a fightpad instead of a stick?
Personally, I don't think a fightstick is worth it just for "messy inputs", unless you're messing up inputs because the buttons are too small or too close to each other.
I have an older version of this one:
I also have an arcadestick with turbo, but it's only hold turbo, so I have to put a grinder on the button if I want to use that.
I high suggest you look at either this fight pad by HORI or this MadCatz one not many people think about getting a pad but its a say cheaper alternative than buying a stick and a WAAAAYY better DPAD than yourre used to i bought the Mad Catz one and it was the best decision i have made. espcially if youre looking for something wto help with your inputs these definetly do the trick as an aleternative to the controller and as a form of a "good cheap" fight stick. i know you said you were looking for a stick but these a great other options that most people arent aware of . and if you are aware of them and you say frick that get this fight stick.