What is Reddit's opinion of IO CREST Internal 5 Port Non-RAID SATA III 6GB/s M.2 B+M Key Adapter Card for Desktop PC Support SSD and HDD. JMB585 Chipset?

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If you have an available m.2 slot, Amazon has sata exp cards for 5 and 2 ports. I got a 5 port and it works great

https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Non-Raid-Adapter-Desktop-Support/dp/B07T3RMFFT/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=m.2+sata+5+port&qid=1618508305&sr=8-3

That’s the same issue I’ve been running into as well. During my search, I found some posts on Reddit and serverbuilds.net that mentioned using an m.2 to SATA adapter. You just have to make sure the motherboard has the correct type of m.2 slot and that your power supply has the correct amount of SATA power connections.

Honestly, IDK, I was just going w/ suggestions from the post. I actually am not now going to use it. My parts list has evolved greatly since I started planning. I actually purchased this M.2 5-port sata add-on card. Going with a Ryzen 5 5600G CPU and 32GB ECC ram on a Gygabyte A520I itx board. Decided on Unraid for OS. Been busy enough that i will have to wait until the last week of December to put it together during my vacation time.

I have not used that but I have pcie to 5 port satapcie sata

Yes. I use one of those. In addition to an LSI SAS controller for the array disks I needed just a couple more ports for cache and optical drives than my MoBo (ASUS Z170-E) had available. I purchased the one below from Amazon and it worked without any issues. I did check and double check the motherboard manual on what was supported and how to configure. As I recall, by using that M.2 card the SATA Express port becomes unavailable. Plus, I believe there was a BIOS change required.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T3RMFFT/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_search\_asin\_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

>How much should the 4125 or the 5005 cost? I see its out of stock a lot of places, so not sure if it should cost the prices I'm seeing.

Oh, I feel like Asrock decided to abandon this market segment. There was a tweet saying that they are not planning to make next-gen Jasper Lake low-power motherboards, and looks like they also stopped making previous models.

There are ASUS PRIME J4005I-C(2 cores) and BIOSTAR J4105NHU(4 cores) from same category, and they are available at least where I live for around ~100 usd. Unfortunately, those have only 2 SATA ports on board, but they also have m.2 slots (unlike Asrock), so you can add SATA controller like this. There are also PCIe2.0x1 slot which you can use for SATA controller, but I prefer it leave that slot for network card.

>Ryzen 1700

Waste of resources, imo. It does not have onboard GPU with media engine like Intel Quick Sync. So while it can handle 6-7 1080p stream purely by raw CPU power, it won't be anything efficient.

If you need, I have an old m.2 to Sata connector I bought and used for 6 months before upgrading to an HBA. If you pay for shipping, I'll send it to you - Its this one

One of the sata port walls is cracked from where I tried to pull a cable out without pressing down the release, but all the ports work great.

I’ve been using a similar one for nearly a year now, specifically this one from Amazon. If you have any questions AMA.

I have 5 HDD’s attached to it and it’s been running perfectly fine. It can get very hot though so make sure you have adequate cooling. I use little heat sinks meant for raspberry Pi’s on the chipsets. If you’re using HDDs then bottlenecking won’t be a problem. I use it with unraid with a separate NVME SSD cache and it’s been golden.

https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Non-Raid-Adapter-Desktop-Support/dp/B07T3RMFFT/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=m.2+to+sata+adapter&qid=1630434573&sr=8-8

Assuming you have enough PSU SATA connectors. If not you won’t be able to power all the drives. Don’t use Molex->SATA either.

Nice, 👍 It would be great to see this implementation with 7 HDD using an m.2 adapter like this IO CREST SI-ADA40141.

IO CREST Internal 5 Port Non-Raid SATA III 6GB/s M.2 B+M Key Adapter Card for Desktop PC Support SSD and HDD. JMB585 Chipset https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T3RMFFT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_8oUmFbEAT141G

I’m not sure if this is what you mean but it adds 5 sata ports.

Sorry for the late reply. here you go!

Thanks for the suggestion. I got an IO Crest adapter with a JMB585 chipset and it works fine. I checked it with a hard drive and 2 SSDs and all three get full bandwidth when accessed at the same time with sequential reads. I think it will handle 2 GB/sec total disk I/O because it has 2 PCIe Gen3 lanes (1 GB/sec each).

Personnaly, I bought an M.2 to SATA adapter
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07T3RMFFT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Are you looking for something like this

Yes, that can work. I haven't used that particular adapter but others have worked.

I built a micronas using an iocrest m.2 to 5 port sata adapter and a NUC8i7BEH. I used a Kingwin 5 bay enclosure for the drives and a couple of coolerguys AC to 12v/5v molex adapters to power it and filled it with 5x 12TB shucked Easystore drives. I used a 2.5" SSD as the boot drive. I tested the iocrest adapter in both windows and freenas. Using windows storage spaces was full speed until the ram buffer filled and then it was extremely slow, would not recommend. Freenas provided full gigabit speeds throughout the entire 20+TB initial test write to the array.

Parts:

1x NUC8i7BEH

1x Iocrest adapter: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T3RMFFT

1x Kingwin enclosure: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BMJ1WD6

2x AC to molex adapters: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MGG6SC

5x WD 12TB Easystores

1x 2.5" Samsung 850 pro for boot drive.

Finished product:

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Rear

Edit: formatting

>So you may want to look into the specific types of cache and whether they're useful for you.

Ok sure, I'll do this :)
And if it's not mandatory it's like 80 bucks saved, thanks !

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>If you get a RAM error that affects both drives

My bad, It was about the HDD in my head. Yes you're right that would be bad. I guess I will count on the On-Die ECC of my DDR5 (Once again if I understand it well). It can still have an issue during transit but I guess I'll prey everyday for this not to happen (And there is only a really really low chance). And again, the important data will also be in the cloud.

>Technically you can get around this with immutable storage / snapshots with infinite lifetime but that's up to you to manage.

I won't lie, I have no idea what this is. But I'll do my own research and decide whether or not I take the risk. At least at the beginning when I'll learn I won't have this. But then sure, sounds really cool !

>Also if you have a RAID card you won't have a spare pcie slot

For this I plan to use something like that: https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Non-Raid-Adapter-Desktop-Support/dp/B07T3RMFFT
I'll go for an ITX motherboard with 2 PCIe.

Another question, I can only find ITX motherboard with like 4 SATA 6GB/s but I would need at least 6 for HDD and one for the Sata SSD (OS).
If I find a motherboard with 2 M.2 and use one for an adapter that add 3/4 more Sata ports like this: https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Non-Raid-Adapter-Desktop-Support/dp/B07T3RMFFT?th=1
Will I get full use of my disks compared to the one connected directly on the motherboard ?
It says non-RAID on this one, does that mean I won't be able to mirror the disks connected on it ? And is there some that support it ?

PS: I won't use the PCIe port for this, need it for potential upgrade.

The 585 chip maxes out at 1700MB/s according to the listing of the one I bought off Amazon.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Internal-Non-Raid-Adapter-Desktop-Support/dp/B07T3RMFFT

I use one of these in my NAS

I'm currently using a 5 port converter from amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Non-Raid-Adapter-Desktop-Support/dp/B07T3RMFFT/

This looks good if I want to add more ports!

Interesting that the article frames this as an innovative offering when multiple varieties on this type of product already exist. e.g. https://smile.amazon.com/Internal-Non-Raid-Adapter-Desktop-Support/dp/B07T3RMFFT/

What I mean is I won't have an interface free for it. 8 HDD's, 3 of which max out the motherboard SATA ports and 5 of which use this m.2 adapter which also takes up the only m.2 slot on the board.

I put one of those SATA adapters in an intel NUC and ran truenas core on it. The NUC is basically a mini desktop version of a laptop. Laptop processor, laptop SODIMM memory, but no battery or screen attached. Worked fine for me. I put my drives in a 3.5" cage meant to fit in desktop 5.25" bays. Not sure what luck you will have with trying to VM it through windows but it did work fine on bare metal. Probably not a bad way to repurpose an old laptop.

front

back

underneath

NUC is an 8th gen NUC8i7BEH

I used an IOCrest M.2 to SATA adapter: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T3RMFFT/

a Kingwin drive enclosure: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BMJ1WD6/

and two of these AC/DC adapters to power the enclosure: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MGG6SC/

Good luck!

Something like this on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Non-Raid-Adapter-Desktop-Support/dp/B07T3RMFFT

This one from Amazon. Was the only one I was able to find that had more than 2 ports.

Anyone tried anything like this? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T3RMFFT?th=1&psc=1

It's a m.2 to 5 sata port converter

I kind of interested if it's possible to use M.2 to SATA, with 5 SATA ports converter like this one:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T3RMFFT/

to add more drives without the expansion unit. Maybe someone tried it already.

I haven't tried this one specifically but I've used this one that works perfectly.

I literally just got and installed this one Internal https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07T3RMFFT/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_BCP7VGJKTVWEFWVGGWP9

No issues so far, Unraid worked with it out of the box. Am using 3 of 5 sata ports at the moment

Its not exactly this but it's the same kind of thing.

It's an m.2 format card but instead of being an m.2 SSD it is an adapter for more SATA drive connectors.

Hey there Fellas, how you holding up?

Well, It's been a while I've been looking for means to build a simple NAS at home.I just bought this https://shop.allnetchina.cn/products/rock-pi-4-model-b-board-only-2-4-5ghz-wlan-bluetooth-5-0 and https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T3RMFFT/ to install 3 of these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YD3G568 (HDD out of case, of course)

What am I missing? Do I need a PS, of how many Watts?

If your board has an open M.2 slot you can extend the sata ports. This one supports 5.

I have the same case for my unraid server for about a year and I like it. Here is a link to my current build . As for itx motherboard with six sata ports and an NVMe, those are hard to find. Itx boards are space constrained and the intel chipset (pcie 3.0x4) is bandwidth limited. If you are not using a discrete gpu i recommend an hba card or a pcie to sata adapter. The motherboard I have has two nvme slots. In the second one I have a pcie to sata adapter. This gives me a total of 9 sata ports and space for an external gpu.

Also unraid boots via a usb drive. You can use the nvme for vms or docker apps.

Not sure how well this works.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T3RMFFT/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_5?smid=A1DRFYPLBRASG2&th=1

IT can be tricky to use all 12 ports. Since I was not going to do any heavy processing I wanted to build my system on a budge. I used an all in 1 board a new Biostar a10N-8800E bought it on ebay from a vendor in china and its been a solid board ever since. it cost me $108 last year the price has gone up to $168 https://www.ebay.com/itm/264716829155?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20180105095853%26meid%3D74c6d269ea5244e1b3e37025d1453188%26pid%3D100903%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D16%26sd%3D264716829155%26itm%3D264716829155%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2510209%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2510209.c100903.m5276

of course that board only has 2 SATA ports but I got around that with a M.2 to SATA adapter. https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Non-Raid-Adapter-Desktop-Support/dp/B07T3RMFFT/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=m.2+sata+adapter&qid=1636505695&qsid=145-9310265-3523241&sr=8-6&sres=B00ITJ7U20%2CB07DVCNLLT%2CB07MKCG5ZG%2CB07T3RMFFT%2CB076S9VK1M%2CB01N6PMZLW%2CB08NY47V38%2CB07N6F3LVS%2CB07VZZ5DT4%2CB08G4FL3SG%2CB07T8LJY23%2CB07JKH5VTL%2CB08MFGMZWZ%2CB076DCNZM3%2CB0765D6NJV%2CB07SYNQ218

I boot from a USB 3.1 flashdrive.

I am using a SATA HBA ATTO H608 its 6.6" long anything longer and you one drive bay.

Oh, here it is:

https://www.amazon.ca/Internal-Non-Raid-Adapter-Desktop-Support/dp/B07T3RMFFT?th=1

Some combination of "SATA RAID M.2" as a search may help you find alternatives.

I was in the same situation, needing more

Amazon Listing

Ended up going a pretty odd route, will find out today/tomorrow if it works out.

I found an adapter that allows you to turn an M.2 M or M+B (NVME) port into 5 SATA ports.

I found another adapter that allows you to plug in an M or M+B stick and use it over USB 3.0.

I'll be powering them using a standard PSU.

I don't think the adapters will get here today, it's Labor Day so I hope Amazon doesn't have drivers out. Should have an answer tomorrow assuming that's when it arrives.

Yep, you absolutely will need a new motherboard and RAM if you are buying a new CPU.

If you are curious, this is the current iteration of my Plex server:

• Don't pay any attention to the prices. None of those are the prices I paid. There are parts that I collected/reused over the years. Only the CPU and motherboard are relatively recent. I bought them last year.

• I cannot recommend the Silverstone DS380 enough. It truly is a fantastic NAS case. It has 8 hot-swap bays and is still pretty small. It does require an ITX motherboard and SFX power supply though. However, since you are in the market for a new motherboard. Maybe consider an ITX build like this?

• ITX motherboard only have 4 SATA ports. I added more ports using an adaptor exactly like this one.

• The hard drives all came from shucked WD externals.

PCPartPicker Part List

What about M2 straight to SATA? (assuming he won't need more than 5) https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Non-Raid-Adapter-Desktop-Support/dp/B07T3RMFFT/ref=sr_1_4

If you have the right kind of NVME slot, you could use this little board:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T3RMFFT

Gives you 5 SATA ports.

yes multiple even

This little guy turns a m.2 slot into 5 sata ports

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T3RMFFT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Or just put in one of these into the M.2 PCIE slot

https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Non-Raid-Adapter-Desktop-Support/dp/B07T3RMFFT

Why don't you move your cache drive to the sata only slot then put in one of these into the PCIE 3.0 M.2 slot. You may lost an onboard sata, but can move that drive to the expansion card. I used one of these in my and it works great. Got the idea from a Byte My Bits unRaid build

https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Non-Raid-Adapter-Desktop-Support/dp/B07T3RMFFT

Are both of your M.2 slot used? I got the idea to use this from Byte My Bits and it works great to expand sata ports. Lots of people use for Unraid you will see in the reviews

https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Non-Raid-Adapter-Desktop-Support/dp/B07T3RMFFT

This isn't what you asked for, but have you considered something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Non-Raid-Adapter-Desktop-Support/dp/B07T3RMFFT/

I did look into that as well... the problem with bifurcation would be fitting cards in the PCIe slots. Since it's an ITX case, there aren't many and at least the first would be blocked by the board.

I was looking at one of these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T3RMFFT/ and using a board with the m.2 slot on the top of the board.

I know this one IO CREST M.2 22x42 to SATA III 2 Ports Adapter Card (Jmicro Chipset), Add Two SATA 3.0 Devices to Any M.2 2242 Slot SI-ADA40141 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T3RMFFT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_W5jdGbKGZCEKA

Five port versionusing Jmicro chipset. (Sub $50)

I figured out the solution. an m.2 b+m key adapter to 5 Sata ports exists.

https://www.amazon.ca/Internal-Non-Raid-Adapter-Desktop-Support/dp/B07T3RMFFT

I plan to use the second m.2 port with something like this. amazon 5 sata to m.2

They are JUST pinout adapters. It just converts the M.2 or PCIE connector into a different connector type. As in the signal is NOT changed electrically. PCIE signals are carried over it, NOT SATA. A SATA drive can not talk over PCIE, that's why you need a PCIE SATA controller. The computer talks to the controller over PCIE, the controller talks to the SATA drive over SATA/SAS. These are VERY cheap because they don't DO anything except convert one pin connector to another. This is a passive device. IT's some specialized device for interfacing with nonstandard NVME drives.

It is for drives like these:

https://www.newegg.ca/intel-750-series-400gb/p/N82E16820167358?item=9SIADDZ7H91335&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwordscamkpl-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwordscamkpl-pc-_-pla-corn+electronics.can-_-solid+state+disk-_-9SIADDZ7H91335&gcli...

Now this LOOKS like a bog standard SATA drive but it's actually an NVME drive. It can not communicate with SATA, if you plugged it into a SATA port on a mobo nothing would happen (or worse than nothing) It even specifies 'Includes cable compatible with Motherboard U.2 connectors' because it isn't a SATA drive and will need to plug into a U.2 or M.2 connector or something else.

https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Non-Raid-Adapter-Desktop-Support/dp/B07T3RMFFT/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=M.2+sata+controller&qid=1602478550&sr=8-3

What you want is something like this. It has a SATA controller on it. It's just like a PCIE SATA controller only it uses the M.2 connector like an NVME drive would (NVME communicates directly over PCIE) You can see it has a chip on it, that's the SATA controller chip, this is an active device.

5 port with jmicron chipset

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T3RMFFT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

4 port with marvel chipset

https://www.amazon.com/IO-Crest-Controller-Components-SI-MPE40125/dp/B072BD8Z3Y/ref=sr_1_19?dchild=1&keywords=io+crest&qid=1600553239&sr=8-19

I just bought the 5 port jmicron version to pair with a jmicron PM device..

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M.2 interface is only a physically different version of the PCIe card slot. So these are just like any HBA you would slot into your motherboard.

That plus one of these m.2/sata adapters would make for a great NAS box.

how does the HC2 perform?

i've been seriously eying the H2 to build a NAS.

thinking i could add this to use in the m2 slot : https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Non-Raid-Adapter-Desktop-Support/dp/B07T3RMFFT/