{"product":{"product_id":"B006LQFHN2","title":"JAS12724 - GE 12724 Z-Wave(R) in-Wall CFL-LED Dimmer Switch","price":null,"image_url":"https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51Fqx01CWcL._SL500_.jpg","url":"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006LQFHN2"},"comments":[{"body":"Searched for \"zwave led dimmer\" and this was the first one on the list, recommended by Amazon and works with Alexa. \r\n\r\nGE Z-Wave Wireless Smart Lighting Control Smart Dimmer Switch, In-Wall, Includes White \u0026amp; Light Almond Paddles, Works with Amazon Alexa, 12724 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006LQFHN2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_RDh2ybABD1MGM\r\n","subreddit_name":"mildlyamusing","author":"calmor15014"},{"body":"Thanks for your feedback, it was incredibly helpful. So [These are the switches I will get](https://www.amazon.com/GE-Dimmer-Z-Wave-12724-Amazon/dp/B006LQFHN2) since the lights I got for my rooms are LED Dimmable. I'll get the smart things hub as well to interact between the switch and my echo, but what do I use to program all the details. For example how do I get alexa to recognize \"bedroom 1\" name when I talk to her and have her interact with it. Is there a software program I use to manage all these devices and name them, etc? \r\n\r\nAlso, my light switches do not have a ground since the house is older, so I'll have to have an electrician come out and figure out a way to install these switches","subreddit_name":"homeautomation","author":"Jadencallaway"},{"body":"\u0026gt; I will say I am rethinking sticking with toggles. I have had many visitors flip a switch with a whole arm swipe, which seems bad for longevity.\r\n\r\nThat's the kind of thing I'm interested in hearing.  Thanks for sharing. \r\n\r\nThat said, I'm not sure that's any different for *any* smart devices when it comes to visitors.   I had [this GE/Jasco dimmer](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006LQFHN2) in my previous house and guests constantly misused it by holding down to turn it off (instead of tapping) which would just dim to the lowest brightness. \r\n And then they would also turn it on and and just accepting that the lights were supposed to be at their lowest brightness.  I suppose that type of user error is less concerning than improper use that could damage, though!","subreddit_name":"homeautomation","author":"Flam5"},{"body":"I like the GE Z-wave smart dimmer paddle. I've installed 4 of them and 2 add-on switches for the three way switches. No issues so far, they were easy to install, the videos they have on YouTube are very easy to follow. I set up a price alert on amazon for these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006LQFHN2/ref=od_aui_detailpages01?ie=UTF8\u0026amp;psc=1 and nabbed them when they got down to $33 each, which is about the best price I've seen.","subreddit_name":"homeautomation","author":"awarfield21"},{"body":"??? any dimmer or on off GE switch can be made into a 3 way as long as you add the add-on switch or dimmers. there is a piece of tape on the back that covers the traveler you take off. PM me if you have questions ...\r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B006LQFHN2","subreddit_name":"homeautomation","author":"vans9140"},{"body":"I'm technically savvy but more on the software side than the hardware side.  I was geared up to do it myself until I started reading about 3-phase light switches (when you have more than one switch that controls a set of lights) and then it started to go over my head with load, line, neutral, etc...I figured: \"Hey, I don't wanna burn my house down.  Let's leave this to the pros.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nI've done a ton of research but there is so much information out there that the more you look the less you know.  I was looking at the [GE 12724](https://www.amazon.com/GE-Wireless-Lighting-Control-12722/dp/B006LQFHN2?th=1) but I'm open to recommendations as well.  \r\n\r\n\r\nI do know I'll be using the Samsung SmartThings hub for the brains of the whole thing.  I'll likely tie in a Logitech Harmony hub in there too along with a Google Home for voice activation.\r\n\r\n\r\nThanks!","subreddit_name":"Charlotte","author":"granite603"},{"body":"Thank you for taking the time to reply, every bit of help is appreciated.\r\n\r\nMaybe you can clarify. I have two GE 12724's. Just focusing on the 'master', near the breaker first- I only have three connections and ground, not four. If you look at the second picture [here](https://www.amazon.com/GE-Dimmer-Z-Wave-12724-Amazon/dp/B006LQFHN2), the fourth connection is covered, and says 'no 120V'.\r\n\r\nSecondly, and less importantly, can I used a second 12724 as a slave? I can always replace it later on with an aux switch, I'd just like to have light for the time being at least. Worst case, I do have a manual three way I could toss in for the time being too.\r\n\r\nLastly, god forbid I made the connections incorrectly, are these switches prone to burning out with swapped line and load, or do they simply (and I imagine more likely) just not work? ","subreddit_name":"homeautomation","author":"FrenchyRaoul"},{"body":"What you want is [12724] (https://www.amazon.com/GE-Z-Wave-000-Watt-Incandescent-12725/dp/B006LQFHN2?th=1)\r\n\r\nFan control and light dimmers are very different.  Fan control starts power high and lowers from there, light dimmers start low and dim up.  This is important when it comes to not burning out a fan motor.  You want to make sure you have them straight.","subreddit_name":"homeautomation","author":"Alwayssunnyinarizona"},{"body":"IMO it's not hard at all. \r\n\r\nThree wires, two screws and a pretty plate to snap into place. The only difficulty I've run into is being short of space in the box. \r\n\r\nI use these in my house. \r\nhttps://www.amazon.com/GE-Dimmer-Z-Wave-12724-Amazon/dp/B006LQFHN2","subreddit_name":"homeautomation","author":"Ironzey"},{"body":"GE / Jasco dimmer switches, ~$40 on [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/GE-Dimmer-Z-Wave-12724-Amazon/dp/B006LQFHN2/), a few bucks less without the dimmer function.\r\n\r\nPlug and play zwave functionality, just make sure there is a neutral wire.  \r\n\r\nI'm controlling incandescents, halogen, LEDs and I think at least one CFL with them and had no issues with the switches.\r\n\r\nI am using a SmartThings hub to control them, FWIW.\r\n\r\nEDIT: There is a zigbee version as well, though I think they are harder to find.\r\n\r\nEDIT 2: Just to be clear, you don't HAVE to use the SmartThings hub to control them, you can just tap on the switch and it works like any other paddle dimmer, it just provides the option of controlling via zwave.","subreddit_name":"smarthome","author":"gnieboer"},{"body":"Doubtful.  You would have to have something that would control the output to the light.\r\n\r\n[Here's](https://www.amazon.com/GE-Dimmer-Z-Wave-12724-Amazon/dp/B006LQFHN2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8\u0026amp;qid=1482871074\u0026amp;sr=8-2\u0026amp;keywords=dimmable+z-wave) a dimmable smart switch.","subreddit_name":"alexa","author":"m34z"},{"body":"Most old dimmers would make my lights flicker or buzz...  and this was back when only incandescent bulbs could be dimmed.  It's not anything to worry about, but it's definitely annoying.  It really depends on the type of bulb as some are worse than others.\r\n\r\nNewer LED bulbs may humm similarly when dimmed though some will blink.  I have several completely quiet ones but I also have several that say they are dimmable but don't dim that much until you get down to 40% and they definitely hum past that. Though the buzz isn't nearly as loud as I remember incandescent bulbs with x10 dimmers.  I'm using the [GE zwave dimming wall switches](https://smile.amazon.com/GE-Z-Wave-Smart-Dimmer-12724/dp/B006LQFHN2). \r\n\r\nCheck the reviews of any bulbs you're interested in and make sure others mention how well they work with dimmers.  I have a handful of \"dimmable\" bulbs that will dim, but start blinking or buzz when they get low. But I got them because they were cheap and didn't do my research.","subreddit_name":"homeautomation","author":"calley479"},{"body":"the beauty of the z-wave light switches is that if somebody turns off the light by hand, you can always switch it back on with automation. so you'll always be able to control the hues from automation app. \r\n[these ge switches](GE Z-Wave Smart Dimmer, In-Wall, 12724 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006LQFHN2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_KEO3xbHRNDQBB) \r\n\r\nanother reason i went with z-wave switches is that i can mix and match my bulb types. some fixtures can be plain led bulbs and still have on/off or dimming capability via the switch. \r\n\r\nthe velcro solution is a neat one and i'd probably end up doing just that if i was in an apt or unwilling to spend extra money. ","subreddit_name":"homeautomation","author":"mikespry"},{"body":"This one shows 500W but it says nothing about Halogen. I have no idea if there needs to be a differentiation? \r\n\r\nhttp://www.amazon.com/GE-Z-Wave-Smart-Dimmer-12724/dp/B006LQFHN2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8\u0026amp;qid=1462298941\u0026amp;sr=8-1\u0026amp;keywords=ge+zwave+dimmer  \r\n\r\n","subreddit_name":"homeautomation","author":"LIV3N"},{"body":"it might work, but it certainly isnt officially compatible.  lutron holds a patent, and the 45612 expressly states it's for incandescent use only.  actually, all of them are 'for incandescent use'.\r\n\r\nedit: sorry, man, this one got under my skin, and is why crowd sourced information is both awesome and awful at the same time.  for anyone else reading, DO NOT use incandescent dimmer switches to dim LED bulbs.  most will end up with bulbs that buzz and flicker while dimmed, and the dim level won't be consistent.  with that said, it is possible to get them working as long as you have enough LED bulbs strung together to get above the typical load limit (20/30W, maybe higher) for an incandescent dimmer to operate properly.  but don't do it, it's just bad practice.  \r\n\r\n~~well, shit.  i didnt know this existed.  if this is what you were talking about, my bad, you're right.~~\r\n\r\n~~[GE 12724](http://www.amazon.com/GE-Z-Wave-Smart-Dimmer-12724/dp/B006LQFHN2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8\u0026amp;qid=1450059663\u0026amp;sr=8-1\u0026amp;keywords=GE+z-wave+dimmer)~~\r\n\r\ni guess not, that requires a neutral.\r\n\r\n\r\n","subreddit_name":"homeautomation","author":"thehaguys"}]}