{"product":{"product_id":"1250045061","title":"Kill Anything That Moves: The Real American War in Vietnam (American Empire Project)","price":"21.49","image_url":"https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51zeANzhv0L._SL500_.jpg","url":"https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250045061"},"comments":[{"body":"'[Kill anything that moves](https://www.amazon.com/Kill-Anything-That-Moves-American/dp/1250045061)' is a good book about that.\r\n\r\nIt shows the underlying, institutionalized racism, that dehumanized the Vietnamese in the minds of the members of the US military from the top to the bottom.\r\n\r\nIt also describes the wonky rules of engagement that were fuzzy from the start, but were also not really followed and easily bypassed anyways.\r\n\r\nAll which in turn helped pushing the most important metric to the US military in this war: the body count.\r\n\r\nThe overwhelming majority of the victims of this were civilians and even though the most infamous massacres like My Lai were committed by infantry, the worst offenders in terms of 'body count' were artillery crews and pilots, who created countless, mostly unknown, My Lais.","subreddit_name":"CombatFootage","author":"monopixel"},{"body":"Read or listen to [Kill Anything that Moves by Nick Turse](https://www.amazon.com/Kill-Anything-That-Moves-American/dp/1250045061). Excellent overview and description of the atrocities that occurred during the late 60s in Vietnam. Nothing went too far, literally the worse things you can possibly think of to do to other humans and just scale it up to US War Machine levels. To all humans: babies, children, women, and men. To animals, livestock, cultivated fields, and whole ecosystems. And the attitudes, no remorse, no empathy, just kill as many humans as possible as quickly as possible. I can’t believe it’s not generally known what the US did down there, it’s just not taught in schools. You’d be lucky to find someone who remembers the My Lai Massacre,  but that’s about it.","subreddit_name":"HistoryPorn","author":"soil_nerd"},{"body":"\u0026gt;look at the context. SK was a Western puppet that collaborated with compradors and the Imperial Japanese. They killed leftists. It's like \"invading\" your home to save your own family from thugs. \r\n\r\n\u0026gt;See http://www.amazon.com/Kill-Anything-That-Moves-American/dp/1250045061/ same pattern [of killing leftists because they got in the way of Western capital] in every country.","subreddit_name":"aznidentity","author":"RagingRaijin"},{"body":"A lot of civilians died horrific deaths that the public in America doesn't even, to this day, generally know about. I suggest the book [Kill Anything That Moves](https://www.amazon.com/Kill-Anything-That-Moves-American/dp/1250045061) if anyone wants to read more on it. More than likely, a lot more My Lai's occurred that were shoveled under the rug under the guise of \"reaching a body count\".","subreddit_name":"MorbidReality","author":"OneX32"},{"body":"War crimes only matter if you have to be held accountable or can be made to be, which they won't be. Same as the US has never been.\r\n\r\nSome light reading Kill Anything That Moves: The Real American War in Vietnam (American Empire Project) https://smile.amazon.co.uk/dp/1250045061/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_K84K8XMP1ERCXJK2A083","subreddit_name":"worldnews","author":"ljdst"},{"body":"I'd recommend reading a well researched book called Kill Everything That Moves, if you really believe that.\r\n\r\nYou might find it illuminating. Of course it's one of many examples from history.\r\n\r\nKill Anything That Moves: The Real American War in Vietnam (American Empire Project) https://smile.amazon.co.uk/dp/1250045061/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_K84K8XMP1ERCXJK2A083","subreddit_name":"worldnews","author":"ljdst"},{"body":"Yes, my source is [The book of the same name](https://www.amazon.com/Kill-Anything-That-Moves-American/dp/1250045061).\r\nRead it and you'll see the true face of the US military.\r\n\r\nQ ? Dude Qanon is pro American military and believes communists eat babies and worship satan, you couldn't possibly be more of base.","subreddit_name":"worldnews","author":"HavocNightrage"},{"body":"People think these things are like isolated incidents -- bad actors that can be isolated and jailed at least until a republican president pardons them. People think of My Lai as like the true crime of the Vietnam war but those kinds of massacres of civilians were routine and [baked into US military operating strategy.](https://www.amazon.com/Kill-Anything-That-Moves-American/dp/1250045061)  This is how american imperial wars work. Yes the national security state was skeptical of Trump but they also instituted a torture program. These things aren't separate this is how an unaccountable national security apparatus works in a globe spanning empire. I'm so furious","subreddit_name":"DemocratsforDiversity","author":"formlex7"},{"body":"Vietnam wanted to create an IndoChinese federation by annexing Laos and Cambodia. China warned them to stop. Vietnam refused so China invaded. Keep in mind that China inflicted some damage to send a message and then went home. It's an unfortunate event but compare that to the genocidal Vietnam War that had no justification [see Gulf of Tonkin Lie]. As far as wars go, The Chinese-Vietnam War was justified [from a geopolitical perspective eg didn't want a large federation at its borders] and relatively humane [compared to http://www.amazon.com/Kill-Anything-That-Moves-American/dp/1250045061/].\r\n\r\nI only hope the two nations can move forward. It's certainly a superior alternative to being subjugated by the Americans.","subreddit_name":"aznidentity","author":"shadowsweep"},{"body":"i read the book, [\"Kill Anything That Moves: The Real American War in Vietnam\" by Nick Turse](http://www.amazon.com/Kill-Anything-That-Moves-American/dp/1250045061) and in it Turse makes the argument that the United States government was so focused on the body count that they did not care if the bodies were NVA, or civilian. Do you agree with this?","subreddit_name":"IAmA","author":"IrishEv"},{"body":"Meanwhile, Jenny Han, racially insecure author of white worshipping book, *To all the boys I've loved before*, is [paying her respects to this psychopathic war criminal.](https://i.imgur.com/yC5O7LT.jpg) And people wonder why we call out these insane Auntie Tans?\r\n\r\n\u0026amp;nbsp;\r\n\r\nHere's a reminder of what white men from the highest positions of military/political power down to generals approved for standard operating procedure http://www.amazon.com/Kill-Anything-That-Moves-American/dp/1250045061/","subreddit_name":"aznidentity","author":"shadowsweep"},{"body":"Just a reminder of what Americans [mostly white] did.\r\n\r\nhttp://www.amazon.com/Kill-Anything-That-Moves-American/dp/1250045061/\r\n\r\nhttp://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Program-Americas-Forbidden-Bookshelf-ebook/dp/B00KGMIW6Q/\r\n\r\n\u0026amp;nbsp;\r\n\r\nAnd, similar atrocities everywhere else they invaded. \r\n\r\nhttp://www.amazon.com/Killing-Hope-C-I-Interventions-II--Updated/dp/1567512526/","subreddit_name":"aznidentity","author":"shadowsweep"},{"body":"My Lai was not an one off event, it was standard operating procedure. It is only remembered because people found out about it.\r\n\r\nThe atrocities - massacres and rapes - the Americans committed in Vietnam was approaching what the Japanese did in Nanking. It is similar in level of brutality if not in scale. Here are some quotes from [testimonies](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA8kcY5gAKQ) of returning Vietnamese vets.\r\n\r\nBrutalizing women:\r\n\u0026gt; I saw one case where a woman was shot by a sniper, one of our snipers. When we got up to her, she was asking for water. And the Lieutenant said to kill her. So he ripped off her clothes. They stabbed her in both breasts. They spread-eagled her and shoved an E- tool up her vagina, an entrenching tool, and she was still asking for water. And then they took that out, and they used a tree limb, and then she was shot.\r\n\r\n---\r\n\r\n\u0026gt; After she was questioned, and, of course, dead, this guy came over, who was a former major, been in the service for twenty years, and he got hungry again and came back over working with USAID, Aid International Development. He went over there, ripped her clothes off and took a knife and cut, from her vagina almost all the way up, just about up to her breasts, and pulled her organs out, completely out of her cavity, and threw them out. Then he stopped and knelt over and commenced to peel every bit of skin off her body, and left her there as a sign for something or other.\r\n\r\n---\r\n\r\n\u0026gt; As I was walking over to him, I turned and I looked in the area. I looked to where the VCS were -- supposed VCS -- and two men were leading a young girl, approximately 19 years old, very pretty, out of a hootch. She had no clothes on, so I assumed she'd been raped, which was pretty SOP. That's standard operating procedure for civilians. And she was thrown onto the pile of the 19 women and children, and five men around the circle opened up on full automatic with their M-16s. And that was the end of that.\r\n\r\nKilling children:\r\n\u0026gt; I was picked up by a truckload of grunt Marines with two company grade officers, 1st Lieutenants. We were about 5 miles down the road, where there were some Vietnamese children at the gateway of the village, and they gave the old finger gesture at us. It was understandable that they picked this up from the GIs there. They stopped the trucks -- they didn't stop the truck, they slowed down a little bit, and it was just like response, the guys got up, including the lieutenants, and just blew all the kids away. There were about five or six kids blown away, and then the truck just continued down the hill. That was my first day in Vietnam.\r\n\r\nMassacring entire villages:\r\n\u0026gt; and there was a river on each side, and there was another company behind each river, and like the people were running around inside, and they were just shooting them, and like the newspapers said, \"Operation Stone, like World War II movie,\" and we just sat up there and we wiped them out. Women, children, everything. 291 of them.\r\n\r\n---\r\n\r\n\u0026gt; Because we went into the area, and it was to set the example to show that we weren't fucking around. So the first thing we do is burn down the village and kill everybody just to let them know we weren't fucking around.\r\n\r\n---\r\n\r\n\u0026gt; When we went out, I'd say 50% at least of the villages we passed through would be burned to the ground. There was no difference between some that we burned and the ones we didn't burn. It's just that some we had time and we'd burn them. We were given orders whenever we moved into a village to reconnoiter by fire. This means whenever we step into a village we're to fire upon houses, bushes, anything to our discretion that looked like there might be someone hiding behind or in or under. What we did was we'd carry our rifles about hip high and we'd line up low to the village and start walking, firing from the hip.\r\n\r\nAnd there are many more stories like these. Photos and transcript [here](http://www.rapeutation.com/WINTERSOLDIERSCREENPLAY.pdf). There is also a [book](https://www.amazon.com/Kill-Anything-That-Moves-American/dp/1250045061). If anyone doesn't believe you, look at this iconic [photo](https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/150310-my-lai-massacre-01.jpg?quality=85\u0026amp;w=373) from My Lai: women and children moments before their deaths. The woman in black had just been raped, and is still buttoning her shirt.","subreddit_name":"aznidentity","author":"basic_botch"},{"body":"Read the book,  [**Kill Anything That Moves: The Real American War in Vietnam**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1250045061/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER\u0026amp;psc=1)**.**","subreddit_name":"stimuluscheck","author":"dornish1919"},{"body":"You should read [this](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anything-Moves-American-Empire-Project/dp/1250045061). It will explain why he didn't talk about what he got up to...","subreddit_name":"UnresolvedMysteries","author":"currychipwithcheese"}]}