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So your whetstone isn't going to actually sharpen much of anything. The grit is way too coarse to actually get an edge. It's good for repairing a chipped edge and such or reprofiling a knife if you want to change the blade angle. Then you need something finer to finish the job and get it actually sharp.
This is the stone I use. It does a pretty good job. Although the one I got was pretty far off of being flat and I had to flatten it. It's probably not a common issue since the reviews didn't mention it.
I have more "real" knifes 2 Victorinox, 1 wusthof and 1 shun that's why I wanna upgrade my stone.
Also I was looking for this one would you recommend it?
Ty for ur answer
(I'm in the US and my advice may reflect that: sorry)
I'm learning too, and I've picked up some decent kitchen knives for $3-5 each at local thrift stores (Goodwill and such). It's nice if you can find decent steels, but even a Cuisinart or IKEA knife makes for a good practice bed at a couple bucks. I just found a 6" paring knife that is full tang and integrated bolsters and stamped 440C for $3.99 with some horribly ugly and uncomfortable scales. I'll never use it in the kitchen, but it's an excellent stand in for my good knives while I learn!
For stones I just picked up a King KW65 (1000/6000 grit with a plastic base) for $26 on Amazon. Mine even arrived packaged well and doesn't have any chips or cracks anywhere, including the edges.
I figure once I can pick up a thrift knife that is dull but not damaged and get it to the point I'm satisfied with the edge reliably in a single sitting, I'll step up to some of my nicer knives.
Esta es la que compré
La marca King es de las más famosillas de Japón porque son piedra natural y no sintética, además que son reconocidas por su durabilidad y calidad al afilar.
Este modelo es el más popular de ellos, es una doble de 1000/6000 así que te sirve para dar filo y para detallar que es lo que quieres. Si sólo tienes de granos abajo de 3000 darás filo pero será muy áspero, lo que te da cortes irregulares, si sólo tienes arriba de 4000 (que creo ni existe esta medida y se lo brinca directo a 5000), tu hoja será muy suave pero sin filo.
Realmente para casa no necesitas más porque luego hay mucho tryhard que se compra sets de piedra o de diamante que van desde el 800 hasta el 10,000 más la placa de cuero, pero yo no lo veo taaan necesario
Edit: si quieres conseguir esa piedra del link te recomiendo que compres esa, porque aunque la puedes encontrar en México su precio no baja de los 3000
This is exactly what you are NOT looking for but I'll say it anyway... just to hear myself talk:
I just bought a Whetstone from amazon and am amazed how easy it is with the right equipment. I was using a diamond stone and gave up. This was cheap and I get a perfect edge in minutes. The edge lasts longer than using the diamond. Don't forget to use a steel everytime you use the knife anyway.
Hey there! I have gone down the rabbit hole on this one.
What to look for: wood handle, something that is comfortable in your hand, has bevels on the sides.
Antiques - used to be the go-to but the eBay prices have really bloomed. However, if you find them at a garage sale or estate sale (etc) it can be a great buy. Usually true imperial scale.
Narex- fantastic starters. I’d look into the true imperial set but you’re still spending more than you sound like you want to.
Aldi - yes, from the grocery store. I have a set. Super simple, they’re metric scale, but comfortable in the hand. It’ll cost you $7. However, they’re not always in stock. Given its Father’s Day they may be in stock.
Some people are of the opinion that you get yourself one GOOD chisel in the 1/2 size because you’ll by far use that one the most. If you do this, get yourself one from lie Nielsen for $50.
SHARPENING- super important!
Two starter ideas:
Stones - you can get a cheap King from amazon. KING KW65 1000/6000 Grit Combination Whetstone with Plastic Base [link]
Sand paper and a piece of thick glass or granite.
I also recommend getting a strop. Just a piece of leather you slather up with stropping compound.
I promise it’s not as complicated as it sounds.
I mean I'm no expert or anything, but it was enough to make me question and choose something else. I have no way to prove it, and didn't want to spend the money on tools to test when I don't have a lot. Here's the Amazon King link. It was in the top two comments.
That. Or the kit with the nagura and the holder would be better. This is a tool, not some sacred artifact. You'll do it wrong. You'll improve. Get on with it☺
King whetstone. 1000 and 6000 grit. It does very well for sharpening to a very fine edge. It's a fairly short learning curve and once you get the hang of it, it's a great skill and just seems more authentic, to me, than a set of sticks. You get the credit for sharpening your blades, not the sharpening system. Also, it has more flexibility (as far as blade angle and finished product).
I've got the older version of this one and it's been fantastic. Mine didn't come with the fancy plastic stand. It is a bit on the small side if you're sharpening a large knife, though.
Did some more looking around and found this King 1000\6000 stone:
Looks like a goer to me but I was wondering if you thought otherwise?
Stones! It's a lot easier than you'd think. With a simple double sided japanese stone you can get it razor sharp.
I use/learned on this one:
Soak it in water for 5 minutes before use and don't use your favorite knife in the beginning to learn on, go buy something cheap. It takes a bit to get used to the angle but after you do the process takes less and less time.
What got me started with proper sharpening was a sharpening system. Lansky, SpyderCo, Wicked Edge and Edge Pro are all safe bets.
But I'd highly recommend getting a whetstone and watching some sharpening tutorials on YouTube and just learn as you go.
This King 1000/6000 grit water stone is pretty much the standard beginner stone. It does a decent job and is inexpensive.
I've never used one of those pull sharpeners that I actually like.
I'm new to the whole sharpening thing and was looking to buy one of these for my partner for Xmas. Is this product any good or am I looking at the wrong thing entirely?
Any help is appreciated as are suggestions on what to get instead?
I’d probably get a king stone because they’re quality and they’re cheap.
I find the 1000 more useful than the 6000 but it’s nice to have both.
Here’s a 1000/6000 combo for $~30:
KING KW65 1000/6000 Grit Combination Whetstone with Plastic Base [link]
I have this: [link]
It's just a 1000/6000 block, nothing too fancy. I'd probably want to get more grits and higher quality stones at some point, but this works well enough. It does take a fair amount of practice and patience to learn how to hold a single angle and get the movement down. I've seen other kits like the one you linked, where the angle is held with a jig, not a bad idea. I use this for my kitchen knives and a straight razor, no real issues yet
You won't get a knife proper sharp with that ever. OK for fixing chips maybe (not that I'd use for that either), but it's way too coarse for a refined edge.
Pay the $34 for a 1000/6000 King Combo waterstone and you'll be popping hairs in no time.
Congratulations on your new knife! I would stay away from pull-throughs. I would recommend a 1000/6000 king combo stone from Amazon. Maybe pick up a cheap beater to practice your technique. Learn to use your stone well and your new knife will be a razor.
Why the Tanaka? Seems like it's a super easy choice for you!
Also, some video I watched recommended a combo of 1k and 5k/6k whetstones, 1k to start and then 5k after, this one specifically [link] - What do you think of that approach?
It’s fairly simple, but time consuming. I just use this stone, then strop it on two different compounds on a diy leather strop. I also have a lansky that I use if I want to reshape the bevels. The key is to get even patterns on the 1000, then spend a good amount of time on the 6k. The leather just gives the knife a very nice mirror finish afterwards.
Yes Ive been wanting to get into sharpening I heard the tenacious needs to be sharpened often. I have no idea about sharpening would something like this be what your talking about here
I'm thinking about getting this King Combo Whetstone but I'm seeing some mixed reviews aviut using 6000 grit on some knives, so I'll definitely have to do some more looking with regards to whetstones!
this one is good to use, you just soak it in water for 10 or 15 minutes, sharpen on the brown side, and polish the edge on the white side. whetstones work on any knife with a metal blade as long as your blade doesn't have a recurve shape
While I completely understand the idea behind minimizing costs, sometimes it’s better to spend a little more once than have to go buy a cheaper product more often. The big issue with cheap whetstones (IMO) is that they dish really quickly. Maybe with some really good technique you could extend the life of a cheap stone.
That being said, I’d recommend a King stone. You can get a combination 1k/6k stone on amazon for a little over $30. Best of luck with your knives! Those kiwis are incredible for how cheap they are.
My kit is the DMT duostone and 1000, 4000, 8000 Shapton glass stones. I also have 1000/8000 Norton for sharpening knives that I haven’t used with planes or chisels. It’s nice to have the 4000 but you absolutely need 8000 to get a sharp edge. I can shave my arm after 8000. An alternative to save money would be the 1000/6000 king stone for $37 at Amazon. I haven’t used this but 6000 might get you there. Might have to strop afterwards. I don’t after 8000. Stone is 2.5" wide which can sharpen up to a #7 blade but not the #8.
It depends on what you want when you set out to sharpen. Disclaimer: I like really sharp edges.
That said, I don't think 1,000 grit is enough to finish the edge. Will it cut food into pieces? Oh yeah. Is it outright dull? Definitely not. I think 2000 grit can be good enough for softer stainless steels and my more "workhorse" knives -- stainless steels not more than 59 HRC. I often leave those at a 2,000 grit edge. For more premium steels, and all carbon steels, I really want a stone in the 4,000-6,000 neighborhood. That finishes and polishes the edge to the really sharp condition that I want when I set out to sharpen.
A 1,000/6,000 or 1,000/5,000 combo stone is a great way to learn and to learn two grits, sharpening, polishing/finishing the edge, and so on. I highly recommend it. I would buy it for anyone starting out.
Here is a King brand 1,000/6,000 combo stone for $28 on Amazon (King offers a couple of different 1k/6k combo stones, this is the somewhat smaller but much less expensive one).
I have a benchmade pocketknife (I think barrage 580) as well as a $50 Henkels chefs knife and I would like to be able to sharpen both of them. I was thinking of grabbing an 1000/6000 whetstone off of amazon to do so. Is that a good idea? I've never really tried my hand at sharpening with a stone before.
That’s kind of a nasty scratch if it’s not a reflection so I don’t know how much luck you’ll have with that probably have to sandpaper/ dremel or something like that but just sharpening the edge I used a 400 grit Norton stone and a king 1000 Grit and 6000 grit combo it gave it a nice edge surprisingly.
I would suggest a 1000 grit stone and a 3000+ grit stone. This combo stone from king is a good starting point. I have it - well I have a 1000 and 6000 from King as separate stones - and it's pretty good. It's not the best stone in the world, but a good beginner stone and cheap enough in case you mess it up.
Pull through knife sharpeners remove a lot of metal, shortening the life of your knife. Also, because there's more pressure at the bottom, it does not sharpen evenly. Also, you cannot use them with knives that don't use a 50-50 bevel (although yours do).
I use this combo stone and sometimes sandpaper to fill in the other grits. I would think these stones would last you several years. Sandpaper has worked really well for me and was cheaper to start but replacing the paper adds up over a year or two.
Do you think it's as important to have a 'nicer' stone for the lower grits? I have this King 1000/6000 stone, and while the 1000 side has been just fine for my R2 knife, it takes a fantastic amount of time to work up any mud on the 6k side - the knife is too hard. I'm wondering if I should get a 5k stone like the one you linked to get better results, or get a nicer 1k stone to set an edge that's (presumably) more quality to start with.
I'm looking for some sharpening stones in Canada on a budget, I found this Japanese stone on Amazon, is it recommended or can I just get something from HomeHardware. On a student budget so price is a factor. Thanks!
I was thinking something like this. But I really need as low as 220 to repair that chip damage?
Edit: sorry for monsterlink
would a stone like this work?
How often will I need to use the stone if I do not purchase a rod?
[link] is this the one??
If you're just beginning then you can get away with a 1000/6000 combo stone from King. They're like $30 on Amazon. If you're buying a new knife, then it's unlikely that you'll have any major chips to fix with a sub-1000 stone. The 1000 grit is fine to set the edge on a knife that you take care of.
At some point you'll want to add a low grit (and probably upgrade from that King stone), but for now I think you're better off getting a budget stone and learning how to use it. If you've never sharpened before you're probably gonna gouge the shit out of it at first...
Just go with the King Stone. It comes with a stand.
Seriously. Unless you think you're going to be better than professional knife sharpeners and master bladesmiths bladesmiths, the only reason to get fancy stones is to say you have fancy stones.
learn the sharpening. If you enjoy it, it will be a lifelong skill, that isn't to different from meditation and such. i am currently working on getting the right angles into muscle memory myself. This [link] has been a good place to start.
What stones did you buy? I have this King stone and while, yes, it never quite gets back to factory sharp (in the better cases), it gets knives sharp enough to shave hair. You should work on your technique. I find it quite meditative.
The single thing that improved my technique the most was to not move from your wrists or elbows. Your upper-body stays pretty solid and most of the movement comes from your hips. Anyway, if you love knives, you should practice! Good luck.
I just got this knife and I am extremely disappointed. You can tell they used some kind of grinding wheel to sharpen it with all of the ridges perpendicular to the blade and did a terrible job at it. It can barely get through an onion and doesn't cleanly slice a tomato at all. I expected to have a clean and sharp blade from a new knife. Is this expected? As far as fixing it goes, is something like this good?
First of all, congratulations on picking up a good nakiri. Tojiro's whole line of knives and cleavers are solid as hell and a great bang for your buck. The first knife I ever picked up for my wife when she started working in restaurants was a Tojiro, and it still gets used all the time.
If I were you, I'd do as /u/mangoforfeit said and get a King Stone. They're under $30 on Amazon right now, which is a steal, and it'll be all you need for a while.
I don't know who put the idea that using "German" vs "Japanese" steel on a stone is going to make a difference, but it won't. You can sharpen low HRC steel on the same stones you sharpen high HRC steel, but the higher the hardness of the blade, the longer it'll take you. I have an Aritsugu gyuto that I sharpen once a week, and that shit is a fucking work out 65 HRC and 11 inches. For that one, I go 1000 grit, 3000 grit, and then 6000 grit.
Korin has a great video series on how to use whetstones. If you want to practice before you start trying to get the angles right on your real knives, that's fine. But bear in mind that sharpening is a process, and you're not going to fuck up one of your knives with one or two errant strokes.
Basically, buy the stones, watch a few videos, and then get to it.
Hey, if you can't find your grandfather's stones, King makes a great double sided (1000 grit and 6000 grit) stone for less than $30 on Amazon. Couple that with Korin's knife sharpening tutorials and you'll be able to keep your new knife in perfect shape indefinitely.
Part of the joy of owning nice knives is maintaining them. There are few things in the world quite as satisfying as taking something dull and working with it until it can slice tissue paper. The first produce you cut with a freshly sharpened knife is fucking magical.
Not only that, it's just a great skill to have. It takes practice, but when you're good, you can help out your friends and family by giving their home knives a new lease on life. I sharpen my parents' and my in-laws' knives when I visit them and they both cook a lot, so it's appreciated.
My wife and I are part of the opening crew for a Michelin-starred Chef's new Japanese restaurant, and tomorrow is our first day of real work before the open. I was going to sharpen our knives later tonight, but this has made me want to get going sooner. The whole process is relaxing and cathartic. Don't be surprised if you start fucking sharpening every tool in your home once you get the bug.
Edit: Seriously, though, I once sharpened a fish spatula.
Don't bother. 1000/6000 double sided is cheaper on amazon:
...and you won't have to wait a month or more to get it.
I'd recommend learning how to use a whetstone. I got this one about a year ago and watched some YouTube videos. Now I can bring my knife back to paper slicing amazingness every few months.
There's lots of great tutorials on YouTube, but it really doesn't need to be more complicated than this for a home cook's needs.
Will this one be a better option?
Ty for your answer:)
I carry this King combo stone. It's cheap and works pretty well.
Learn to use this and you'll be good forever. There's videos on YouTube on how to do it correctly [link]
Hey friend! I just bought this combination stone on Amazon. Got great reviews and was recommended by a kitchen knife YouTube channel I watch.
Hope this helps! :)
Edit: you should only sharpen your knives a few times a year maximum. Getting a good quality hone will keep your knives in great shape in the meantime. I can absolutely recommend this ceramic honing rod
Came to post the same thing. For my Canadian brethren.. the 1000/6000 King whetstone is $40 on Amazon Canada. I've had mine for close to a year and I love it.
I used these two videos as guides:
heres what i use and bought from amazon for my scandi ground carving knives > https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B001DT1X9O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
KING KW65 1000/6000 Grit Combination Whetstone with Plastic Base
I believe it was marked cheaper than this when I bought it though.
Congrats on getting a new knife! Regarding sharpening it, it depends on your budget mostly among some other factors.
At the entry level, [link] is a classic advisement. Very affordable at $25, and great to practice technique with (use less fancy knives the first few times!).
Moving up a little bit, a 1000/6000 stone should still work fine, and i'd consider the Cerax or Imanishi [link] and [link]. These are $55-65.
From one of those stones, i'd expand up and down a little bit, if you want to reshape or fix gouges, grab the lower grit stone first, if you want to further polish, grab the high grit. Take a look in the Shapton Kuromaku series, which for a Gyuto they recommend the 220 Moss, 1500 Blue and 12000 Yellow. they can all be bought via this Amazon page: [link] The full set of the 3 would be a bit under $150 before tax/shipping.
At the high end, is Shapton Glass, Choosera or Naniwa stones but i'd advise against spending $300+ on a set of stones right now if you don't have much experience.
For the price to get them sharpened you could get a whetstone and take care of it yourself. depending on how dull they are you'd probably only need to buy one combo stone . Alternatively there is a mobile sharpener in town.
I would start with this. It is all you need for a professional edge and can always strop on other stuff and get compound and leather later. [link]
Correct. OP you'd be better off with a King multi stone in that price point, like this. get the Nagura to "clean" your stones, especially the higher grit ones. You'll also want to get a flattening stone at some point.
Cool, thanks. Trying to keep it around $40 or $50. Is this the King 1000 you're referring to? I also see this one which specifies it's for harder steels. My knife is stainless steel, would that whetstone be better for it?
Also, does the effectiveness of the ceramic rods vary much based on quality? I have an old, cheap, cusinart knife block that has a ceramic rod in it. Would that be fine?
I don’t need a combo, what I would prefer it’s a tray/holder so I don’t have to buy it separately.
Can you give me some recommendations on the following?
KING KW65 1000/6000 Grit Combination Whetstone with Plastic Base
King 01096 1000/6000 Grit Deluxe Combination Stone
KING KW65 1000/6000 (with nagura stone)
Thank you, that’s helpful!
I think the king 1000 is this? Is this complete trash?
King's generic 1000/3000 dual stone is a great buy for the price. I had one that lasted for years before it was too dished/clogged to put an edge on anything. Then I needed a flattening stone to bring it back to fighting condition.
Though, if you have the spare cash, Kramer's waterstone set is amazing. You can get a very good edge with the King stones, but that Kramer set has a very different feel.
Also, you'll want a nagura (if you don't get the Kramer set that comes with one). A lot of the king stones offered on Amazon come with one. It's used to clean/condition the stone, flatten out smaller imperfections (over the heavy cleaning stone above), and make a slurry to really polish on your high grit stones.
Also Also, one shout out to Upon Leather on Amazon. I picked up a strop from them that is very good quality leather, with more polishing compound than I will ever need, and a no-shit handwritten thank you note in the box. Just need to mount it to a piece of scrap wood and you're good to go.
Sure thing! Just be aware there's a lot of junk on Amazon, do some research and stone searches on places like MTC Kitchen, ChefKnivesToGo and Korin.
Generally the basic entry level stone that a lot of people recommend is the King 1000/6000 stone, which is available here: [link] but there are tons of ways to improve and the sky's the limit on what you can spend too.
A nice step up while still being a combination stone might be one of the following:
You won't find too many upgrades in combination stones beyond that, so it'd be single grit stones, but a 1k/6k could do you very well for years without anything further.
Whatever you do, PRACTICE, and consider starting with not the nice new wusthof till you get the hang of it. There's a lot of good sharpening tutorials on youtube (and some not good ones, viewer beware).
Okay here's my suggestion. You can get the King 1k6k Combo off Amazon. This is not the best stone (without bogging you down with details) but it does the trick just fine and is a small investment to take care of sharpening needs. Now for the knife; I like this guy from JKI. It's fully stainless, comes with a saya (great for storage or travel), and the handle is a little different than most knives you're probably used to so will make it easy to recognize at home or if she takes it anywhere.
The King KW65 1k/6k is a good option for a combo stone, you can get it off amazon for less than $40, or the King KDS 1k/6k for $44.
I recently got a KnifeWear 4k stone and their 8k stone (same as a Naniwa Snow White 8k), and they seem to be of good quality though I haven't used them yet. Theres tons of options out there, someone else will hopefully weigh in and give you some other ideas.
I use this stone. I started by just sharpening my cheap knives but after a couple successes, I feel confidant sharpening my nicer knives. In fact, I just did it on Monday!
A Japanese whetstone. They work great. I had to watch some videos on how to use it first though.
I have this one and it’s been good to me. KING KW65 1000/6000 Grit Combination Whetstone with Plastic Base [link]
This is a good entry level set
And these are a more advanced options
Edit: is this it?
I’ve had this one for awhile now. You can get an amazing edge when you learn to use it properly.
I posted this on another thread, might help you.
Update on Knifewear stones, used the 4k pretty heavily during a session. It's a beast of a stone, great slurry and great progression from my 1k to 4k to 6k. Probably going to buy the 8k for shits and giggles.
yep the kw65, and KDS. Both are 1000/6000
I personally use a bench grinder with a 120 grit aluminum oxide wheel, and a paper wheel for stropping, but if you're looking for something lower profile, you could use sandpaper taped into a countertop for lower grits, and a Whetstone like this for keeping them sharp
As for a strop, I would recommend looking for a local leather supplier. I bought a roll of vegetable tanned double butt leather that will probably last until I'm 60 years old for a reasonable price.
Then get some green honing compound from Amazon
All that said, I'm seriously looking at going old school, and swapping my bench grinder for a treadle powered grind stone
I'm a sharpening newbie. I bought a King 1000/6000 combination stone months ago. I've only used it twice since I bought it but so far so good. It's less than $50 CAD. https://www.amazon.ca/KING-KW65-Combination-Whetstone-Plastic/dp/B001DT1X9O/ref=sr_1_5?crid=13ZPKVBIYDWZ&keywords=king+1000+6000+whetstone&qid=1550542504&s=gateway&sprefix=king+1000%2Ctools%2C153&sr=8-5
Thanks! I'll go for the good knife right away, then, as I have a few ones to practice on.
Can I get your help with choosing my first stone? I have 3 options already found, but can't decide what to do:
1) King 1000/6000 for $45 CAD
2) Suehiro 1000/3000 for $49 CAD (for the option that will arrive in a few days)
3) Knifewear 1000 stone, made by Naniwa for $44.
I can get them all with no shipping fees, just unsure what to buy. I have no other stones or knife stuff whatsoever, but will be buying a new expensive knife soon and have a bunch of old european-style $15 chef knives that are ultra-dull to practice on.
A set of sharpening stones is a worthwhile investment to anyone using a sharp edge. Once you have them, you can sharpen everything, even your kitchen knives. Also, they are not that expensive. Here is a Japanese made 1000x/6000x combo stone for $30. Add a 120/400 combo stone for cleaning up chipped blades. You've now spent $50 on good tools that sharpen quickly and put an excellent edge on your tools. Sandpaper is tough to sharpen with and takes a lot more finesse. If you're considering buying a new chisel every time you dull out the stones are worth it. Not to mention you'll find cutting prints much more enjoyable with a consistently sharp tool.
Go with something a bit above the most bottom one I would suggest as the cheapest combination stones found under different Names are often verry soft and dish in the process of sharpening one knive.
I personally would go with atleast a King 1K/6K or a Naniwa 1K/3K stones.
While this might sound a bit odd there is not much difference in the finish of the two stones.
Or the one up:
Despite owning over $300 worth of sharpening gadgets, it turns out that all I need to get a mirror edge is a king 1000/6000 whetstone and a DMT aligner clamp to use as a knife guide, no need for a strop or anything else
If you talking kitchen knives, Sur la Table, [link]
But you can get a similar stone on Amazon for half the price and straight from Japan, [link]
Amazon has a few ceramic stones as well. There's this two sided one but I've never heard of King:
King Two Sided Sharpening Stone with Base - #1000 & #6000
They also have some Shaptons which I have seen mentioned on here, something like this:
Whetstone Sharpening stone SHAPTON Ceramic KUROMAKU #5000
King has good for value stones so if you like it with a base maybe this?.
Bought this a few days ago. Gonna try it tomorrow but I heard its a staple.
> Knife sharpening. I've tried searching this sub for knife sharpening suggestions and while the most common suggestion is to pay someone to do it once or twice a year, I've read horror stories and I'd like to learn myself either with a sharpening stone or a system made to guarantee the angle. Any suggestions here?
Lot of options here. You can find places that will do knife sharpening. There's one near me that's just a small storefront but they do work for local restaurants and regular Joe walk-ins for a flat rate of $6 a blade.
However, it's really pretty easy to get into doing your own sharpening. Can find decent starter stones on Amazon, for example, as well as good online tutorials that'll give you the process. From there it's just hands-on time.
Doesn't matter if you're not perfect the first time you do it - can always go back and put a better edge on a knife later when you get better at it. Probably most important thing is to know how to hold and maintain an angle - conveniently you can come up with good rules of thumb using trig. For a typical western angle of 22.5 degrees per side, you need to hold the spine up off the stone 3/8" per inch of blade height. For a more typical Japanese angle of 15 degrees it's 1/4" per inch of blade height. Just have to take a look at what that is with a ruler, then you can put your thumb up against it and find where you need to "lock in" and hold it.
I enjoy doing it myself, picked it up pretty quickly over the summer, and I'd say my knives tend to have a better-than-new edge on them. 1-2 times per year seems sufficient, maybe 3 - really depends on type of steel and use.
I have a set of DMTs. They're OK. I've had em for about 4 years and the super fine is starting to wear out.
If I had to do it again I'd get this: [link] ( I have the king 6000 grit and it's awesome)
As well as one of these: [link]
The second one I realize is finer grit than a norton, but diamond stones with good lubrication tend to cut way faster than a norton stone.
Also, it will only set you back like $30 for the pair.
I've heard people say good things about these:
1000 should be fine for maintenance.
Absolutely. I've been pretty happy with this one
I have a Harbor Freight stone for getting my edge down
And this stone for finer sharpening
King Two Sided Sharpening Stone with Base - #1000 & #6000 [link]
I recently went through this same thing. You definitely want to get something with higher grit than what you linked (as others have said), but, like you, I really didn't want to spend a ton of money. I found this 1000/6000 grit stone for 30 bucks on amazon. It's a big jump between the grits, but with some elbow grease (not literally, it's a water stone), it'll get the job done and your chisels will be sharp enough to shave with.
Also, as others have said get a honing guide.
If you want a fool proof method, get an edge pro (or similar knock off) system.
If you want to learn to free hand sharpen, get a King 1k/6k water stone.$30
These are not the best stones in the world, but they are a good price point to get into it.
You get to pick the angle you want! But its VG-10 steel so it can go pretty steep, 15 deg would probably be recommended. Watch some videos to get a good idea of what you are doing, and how to hold an angle. You could also get an angle guide if you want.
You don't need a flattening stone right away, but you will eventually. A cheap ish option is to buy a low grit (140 is sometimes recomended) dimond plate and use it. $30
Lots of videos.
This is a good combo stone. She will also need the stone fixer to keep the sharpening stone flat.
Would you recommend this? [link]
Paired with this? [link]
This will handle most knife sharpening needs for anyone but the most discerning person.
King Waterstones. 1000/6000 combination.
The sharpening rod isn't for "sharpening", it's for realigning the edge that bends during normal usage. (the "burr") Most times you're using a knife, it's recommended to use a sharpening rod first to ensure the edge is straight.
For proper sharpening, which you'll probably do every few weeks or months in home cooking context, the least fancy and cheap option is just a two sided whetstone. I have this one, which I bought on ebay with free shipping from Japan:
Some relevant videos:
I've got a double sided water stone, 1000 and 6000.
You could start with the wet sandpaper at 220 and work your way up.
Would something like this work?
No, I meant the Gesshin brand. A nice set to go for is one that includes the 400, 2000, and 6000.
But seeing as you're just starting out, I might recommend you start off with the cheaper stuff. Go for a King 1000/6000 which is what Murray Carter recommends.
Buy a 40$ water stone from amazon and follow this guide :
Do not send it to a sharpening shop.
Do not use a honing steel.
Do not use a hard cutting board.
That's about it.
Also, no dishwasher, always hand wash, never leave them dirty or wet, or they will rust. Do not scrape the food with the edge of the knife.