If you are open to getting it on Amazon, I highly highly recommend Kose Softymo Speedy Cleansing Oil. It's $10 for 230 mL, lasts ABSOLUTELY FOREVER, and is the most effective cleansing oil I've ever used.
KOSE SOFTYMO Speedy Cleansing Oil 230ml https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000V2FBAQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Zfr-DbS1ZMQ6A
Oil cleanser is the best way to remove sunscreen/makeup. I have tried many over the years and the best value/quality is KOSE SOFTYMO Speedy Cleansing Oil. Gentle, effective and will last you a very long time.
The key to using an oil/balm cleanser is to put a pump over dry skin; massage it all over. Then wet your hands and massage it again. This will make it emulsify the oil, it will turn milky and becomes less oily. Rinse it off, then follow up with your regular cleanser.
This method not only will ensure you have cleansed properly and got rid of any sunscreen, but it also helps with Sebaceous Filaments (black dots) on the nose if you have them. It is also a gentle form of exfoliation and will leave your skin soft and smooth.
The Neutrogena cleansing oil is one of the least expensive cleansing oils I've seen on the US market. I use a mineral-oil-based Japanese cleansing oil that I can get off Amazon for a bit less per ounce. It's the Kose Softymo Speedy Cleansing oil, which is fragrance-free and mostly mineral oil. If you're sensitive to jojoba oil, though, be aware that it does contain jojoba a bit further down the ingredients list. It's about $8-9 if you wait for it to ship from Japan or $11 with Prime shipping, but it's almost twice the size as the Neutrogena bottle, and you can get refill pouches for even less: https://www.amazon.com/Softy-Facial-Cleansing-Speedy-Pound/dp/B000V2FBAQ
For oil cleanser, I really like KOSE Softy Speedy. Makes my face feel soooo soft after using it. I really thought I would hate oil cleansing, but I really miss it when I travel. Comes in a pump bottle, so clean to use. Did a fair amount of research before settling on this one. It's relatively inexpensive (less than $10) and sell it on Amazon here.
Honestly, any Korean or Japanese brand which you can get on amazon and should last you almost a year with daily use.
One that I really like is this one. I just massage it in and wipe it off with a warm towel and wring the towel out. It also emulsifies too, so it’s capable of washing away with just water as long as you still apply it with dry hands. Very very hydrating and nourishing, while also cleansing without stripping. It also makes my pores look very small for a good 12 hours!
If you want to grab something in the store and don’t want to purchase online, I always tell people jojoba oil is a good cleansing choice too.
Basically, you wash your face using a cleanser made out of oil as your face wash. Sounds crazy, but the oil does a better job getting your skin's oil out of your pores when you splash water on it and rub it a bit. After rinsing it off with water, you can use a regular old gel cleanser to make sure none of the oil cleanser is still on your skin.
Here's a pretty solid daily use oil cleanser that's hella cheap and does a great job getting makeup off:
DHC has another one I've seen a lot of folks recommend on here.
straight up changed my life it removes my makeup and super waterproof mascara so easily and then I follow with my normal cleanser. I just do it in the shower lol 1 step kinda thing
I use this one! I’ve used the non speedy version as well and it’s slightly more nourishing but takes longer to rinse off so I use this one. It’s cheap, a little goes a long way, and it takes off everything! I sweat a lot and use a lot of sunscreen so it’s a must for me.
My skin became less dry/inflamed and my lips became chapped less (I always have very dry lips and I don't like to use chapstick because it bothers me). Going without washing leaves my skin feeling/looking better than if I wash and then moisturize after. Moisturizing I've found to not make a huge difference, and I use the good shit with petroleum jelly, not some lightweight baby stuff.
The cleanser I use is "KOSE SOFTYMO Speedy Cleansing Oil" amazon link . It was recommended on the asianbeauty skincare reddit. I'm not sure how it compares to other oil-based cleansers, they shill brands pretty hard on that subreddit, I don't think it really matters what kind you get too much as long as it's oil-based and not a sudzy one with surfectants like Sodium-Laurel (laureth?) suphate.
Good job for using sunscreen, I also tried to use it religiously, but now I'm a vampire working the night shift so I don't have to worry about the sun anymore.
I've been into skincare for the better part of two decades since I had bad acne as soon as I began puberty. #1 lesson I've learned is LEAVE MY SKIN THE FUCK ALONE. I could have saved so much time, money, and pain if I'd followed that rule instead of trying every damn multistep ritual out there.
I recommend using an oil cleanser for makeup (and sunscreen) removal. It will also have the added benefit of helping to gently remove peeling/flakey skin from the tret. I have sensitive skin, use tretinoin, and love Kose Softymo Speedy Cleansing Oil.. I use it as the first step in a double cleanse, followed by Vanicream Gentle Facial Cleanser.
I looked up what micellar water is and it sounds similar to this product that I found in another post. Funny how oil based cleaners can help oily skin
KOSE SOFTYMO Speedy Cleansing Oil 230ml https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000V2FBAQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_B8E45PV92P0VJPC51B4Q
do you think it could be the azelaic acid you’re using? i use the same one by the ordinary and i find that my face doesn’t feel totally free of the silicone unless i double cleanse. i use an oil cleanser first and i feel like that really gets everything off. i have read that because silicone is hydrophobic, regular cleansers have a difficult time removing it from the skin. same thing goes for sunscreen, supposedly!
if you’re curious, i use the Kose Softymo speedy cleansing oil. i use it on a dry face and i really like it
i hope this was helpful, best of luck to you!
I went through almost a year of this problem with a tinted zinc based sunscreen and people kept telling me to cleanse with oil or micellar water and then use my regular cleanser (I’m also a CeraVe Hydrating Cleanser devotee)
Those things helped but required way more scrubbing than my sensitive face could handle and STILL left traces of the sunscreen (very obvious since it was tinted). I joked that zinc sunscreen could only be removed with a belt sander and I wore it way less often because of the hassle and wear and tear on my face. I live in a sunny tropical climate so skipping sunscreen is just plain crazy.
I was ready to give up until another redditor recommended this . It goes on like thin oil and melts all sunscreen and makeup off when you splash water on it, it turns milky white and comes off VERY easily. I still follow up with CereVe Hydrating Cleanser to be super safe but it’s just for cleansing the sunscreen and makeup are already gone.
I hope this helps!
I haven’t experienced this with the Speedymo one. I think there is more than one Speedymo cleansing oil. This is the one I use:
I have only tried three cleansing oil products since I started double cleansing about 2 years ago. I started with the Hada Labo one, which I found didn’t really rinse off and my skin would feel a bit uncomfortable and sometimes redness. The Speedymo was the next one I tried and it worked much better for me. About two weeks ago I tried the Curel Cleansing Gel, and didn’t like it. It had a similar result as the Hada Labo.
Perhaps we use the Speedymo differently? I apply on dry skin, emulsify with water, and then rinse it off with water (as best I can). I then apply the water soluble cleanser, massage and rinse. My skin feels very soft and comfortable without tightness or the feeling of a tacky layer of something on my skin.
I'm not crazy about DHC for that reason so I get it but it's an easier found substitute if you're totally against amazon purchasing.
Here you go direct link, no referral etc. Samurai Japan has treated me well on multiple items for several years now. I get my melano CC and misc items from them.
I agree with above. It was gentle enough on my normal/oily skin with the fragrance as main pause -- though it is pleasant. It was the second oil cleanser of my sc journey.
I tried Kose Softymo after for price, simplicity, and found in my local Asian market: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000V2FBAQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_XS-eFb2T28J00
I was recommended this from amazon as not exactly a dupe, but a cheaper option: KOSE SOFTYMO Speedy Cleansing Oil 230ml https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000V2FBAQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_CG7UEbZNGSB1K
Haven’t used DHC myself but I like this one & it’s under $10 :)
I would do an oil cleanser instead of makeup wipes. I recently made that switch and feel it cleans out my pores and removes my SPF/makeup better and is much less stripping/irritating. I got this one on Amazon and I really like it so far.
I would definitely add in an SPF to your morning routine!
I'm using kose softymo speedy cleansing oil. It's fragrance free, removes makeup, doesn't burn my eyes, rinses clean, and it's inexpensive. I like it a lot, but it's the only one I've used (I'm new to the double cleanse) so I don't have any basis for comparison. Lots of good reviews on Amazon though.
KOSE SOFTYMO Speedy Cleansing Oil... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000V2FBAQ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I’ve been using the Kose Softymo speedy cleansing oil to great success. It’s mineral oil based so there is a very low chance of it breaking you out. Plus it emulsified very cleanly at the touch of water, so you could in theory use it as your only cleanser. I got it off amazon, it’s not too expensive. https://www.amazon.com/KOSE-SOFTYMO-Speedy-Cleansing-230ml/dp/B000V2FBAQ
Do you remember what oil you used when doing OCM?
I get this cleansing oil from Amazon for under $10. It’s the best one I’ve ever tried for eyes and my whole face.
KOSE SOFTYMO Speedy Cleansing Oil 230ml https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000V2FBAQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_0gUDCb9QDJM9B
It’s light, takes everything off, doesn’t burn my skin or eyes, doesn’t dry out my skin, easily washes off, doesn’t break me out, lasts forever. I follow up with a normal cleanser after using this.
I tried everything for makeup remover: Neutrogena oil, olive oil, coconut oil, Clinique balm - the works. Nothing works like this one.
I usually use the sugar scrub to really get the dead skin off, but if my skin is feeling particularly sensitive, I will opt for the oatmeal! It still physically exfoliates, but I find moist oats are gentler on the skin. Leaving on the oatmeal mask for a bit does soothe skin though! So it’s a 2-in-1 heh
I use the Softymo Speedy Cleansing Oil !
rave: double cleansing... again!
idk why i stopped double cleansing but im so happy that i had the urge to use my oil cleanser again last weekend!! since using it and doing this method, my ccs, notably on my forehead, and acne in general have cleared up significantly :”) my skin doesn’t feel as dry or tight anymore either !
Hi all, I want to order the kose softymo speedy cleanser from amazon but I don't know if I can trust the sellers. Does anyone have a list of verified amazon sellers? I saw a list of sites, but not amazon sellers. KOSE Softy Mo Facial Cleansing Oil Speedy, 0.5 Pound https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000V2FBAQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_K-kRyb1XTVNZ8 here is a link to the product
I think you do need the cotton pads for it to work. It just doesnt seem as effective when I just throw it on my face. Cotton pads are the most convenient way imo. The thin, flat ones, not the fluffy balls.
Other than that this is a good simple routine! Definitely adding micellar water to remove the thick biore sunscreen is a must.
If you want to try an alternate first step cleanser is the Kose Speedy Cleansing Oil, it's an emulsifying oil cleanser so you squirt a pump or two into your hands and rub into your face, emulsify off with water, and then follow with the your CeraVe cleanser.
It's whichever one this is- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000V2FBAQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_TeT1xb3744PCM
If it was supposed to have a lock I wouldn't be surprised if it was damaged during shipping since there was basically nothing in the box other than the oil and two other things I ordered, not even peanuts or anything. But it's totally usable and barely any product was wasted, so I guess it's not a big deal.
I would give yourself more credit! From what I can see your cheeks are fairly clear.
Anyway, acne on the chin to me screams hormonal, but since you have been on spiro I assume your doctor and you already tried that route. Beyond a recommendation to go to the dermatologist or doctor to talk about your persistent acne, do you have a full routine yet? Cleaning your skin at night and moisturizing is really important for healthy skin!
Also, I was just discussing this in another thread, but the white stuff that appears on the chin when you clench your lips (I had it before) reminds me of sebaceous filaments. Oil cleansing really helps clear that up for a lot of people. I personally use KOSE COSMEPORT softymo Speedy Cleansing Oil.
At night you use the oil cleanser, rubbing it into your skin for 1 minute, and then wash it off with water! Then use your cleanser to remove any leftover oil. It helps clear out gunk it pores.
Ya so let me know if you have a routine in place currently!
Yes, AB using cleansing oils. It's a bit different than skincareaddiction (if you're also a fan of that sub) because most of the AB cleansing oils contain emulsifiers, which when mixed with water, allows the cleanser to wash cleanly off. Just to make sure that nothing is left on the skin, most ABs follows through with a foaming or hydrating cleanser (double cleanse). If you have mineral oil left and it doesn't break you out, keep using it and make sure that you are double cleansing. Once you are done with the mineral oil, you can check out some AB cleansing oils and see which style your skin prefers.
If you're fine with mineral oil, I would recommend trying Softymo Speedy Cleansing Oil. It looks like this in the pink bottle. I like it more than the Deep version because it contains no fragrance, which is great for my sensitive skin. You can try using something cheaper like Cetaphil for dry skin (I think Walgreens even makes a generic one that is exactly the same) as the second part of your double cleanse, or check out the AB sidebar for some recommendations.
The good thing about having a compromised moisture barrier (can I even say this), is that it's not permanent. If you take the time to change your routine and baby your skin a bit, it will turn back to normal. I had a messed up barrier for awhile before finding AB, and once it was fixed I was pretty amazed at how much better my acne situation became.
So, focus on fixing your barrier first, then when you're ready, you can start to expand your skin routine to include products that focus on your skin goals (vitamin c, chemical exfoliants, etc.). Because you are on a budget, I would buy samples of everything first to make sure that your skin likes the product. I have a box of things I cannot use, because of my AB greed. :(
Good luck!
I've finally resisted the temptation to spend money and change my routine that works. I am 22 y/o guy with very oily skin & I sweat a lot - which is usually what causes my breakouts. I also love these products because they're (mostly) readily available from stores in Australia.
Derma Sukin Daily Hydrating Wash - AM & PM. This stuff is so cheap, and very gentle. It has an almost identical texture to Cetaphil, only makes me feel less dry.
Kose Softymo Speedy Cleansing Oil - PM, before Sukin cleanser. My holy grail oil cleanser. This stuff is liquid gold, it's excellent for blackheads and a really deep clean. I feel like wake up with noticeably softer skin.
Innisfree Green Tea Seed Serum - AM/PM after cleansing. It's a very hydrating serum that I feel has reduced a lot of the redness from my acne scars. It's kind of expensive-ish so if you guys have any alternatives hmu!
The Ordinary, The Buffet - AM, after serum. This is stuff of miracles. This stuff has really helped the texture of my skin, and I only use a drop each morning.
Neutrogena Water Gel - AM/PM, mixed with TO Hyaluronic Acid. Cheap, doesn't break me out, good for Australian heat, and my sweaty face. I don't think I need much more until it gets dry and cold eventually.
<em>The Ordinary, Hyaluronic Acid + B5</em> * - AM/PM mixed with Neutrogena moisturiser. Cheap, hydrating, effective & mixes really well with my moisturer. I tried the Marine Hyaluronics one and thought it did nothing. The Hada Labo one was also good but harder to pick up in stores.
<em>The Ordinary, 30% AHA + BHA 2%</em> - PM, once a week. I prefer this stuff over the stridex pads or any other AHA/BHA I've used as it's less irritating on my skin. Really helped with acne scarring and prevents cystic acne breakouts. Kind of annoyed you can't get it in stores in Australia anymore though.
<em>La Roche Posay Anthelios SPF50</em> - AM, final step. I feel like I'm yet to find a sunscreen my skin LOVES, but this one does the job and doesn't break me out. It's kinda expensive but it lasts for a while.
Sure!!! In my opinion, the differin makes the most significant difference in my overall skin appearance and texture and the rest of the products are there for "support" so to say, but are no less important to my routine! I'll also try to include some mini reviews when possible so this might get long. I'd get a snack, lol.
AM Routine (note: this also depends on time in the AM, and whether or not I plan on leaving the house and/or apply makeup) --
1) If I did not apply the CeraVe Healing Ointment the night before, I cleanse only with micellar water. I like the Simple brand, L'Oreal for dry skin, and the CVS beauty 360 brand a lot. If I DID apply the CeraVe Healing Ointment the night before, I cleanse with the Neutrogena Hydro Gel hydrating cleanser. I like this one and my skin feels really soft but really clean after, not dry.
2) Hylamide SubQ anti-aging serum -- Very thin and watery, but I like it. My skin feels less dry and since fine lines are an issue under my eyes due to eczema under them, I'm getting more into anti-aging at age 23.
3) Hyalmide SubQ Under Eye serum -- Bottle is only 15 ml but you really only need one drop for both eyes. Genetic dark circles and fine lines are major concerns for me. Both Hylamide serums are still very new to me, so I can't comment on results yet.
4) TO Alpha Arbutin 2% + HA -- My acne scars fade quickly and the product has HA that helps with hydration. I can't single out this product as something that single handedly cleared up my scarring because I use so much, but I genuinely believe it helps. If I'm short on time though, this is something I might skip. This doesn't happen often though.
5) TO Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate 10% -- If I'm feeling really, really, really dry, at this point I'll also incorporate a drop or two of facial oil when applying this product. I like this product a lot, but it wasn't hydrating enough for me on its own regardless. If I'm super pressed for time in the AM, I might skip this one as well, but again not often.
6) Avene Skin Recovery Cream -- This product is a ride or die, holy grail, will never, ever, ever be without it again kind of moisturizer for me. It's a bit pricey at $20-$30 USD on Amazon, but if I ever heard it was getting discontinued I would still buy a 2 year supply in backups. I have to buy mine on Amazon due to lack of retailers near me and I have gotten duds/fakes before, so be careful. Read reviews!!
7) Sunscreen -- If I'm not planning on wearing makeup, I wear the Elta MD UV Clear physical sunscreen with Niacinamide (also note: If I plan on wearing this, I'm also gonna be skipping the Vit C from step 5). If I am planning on wearing makeup, I LOOOOVE the Nivea Sun Protect Plus UV Milky Essence, but it's hard for me to get on Amazon with prime shipping so I usually settle for the Biore UV Aqua Rich Watery Essence. The Biore has a higher alcohol content and is therefore more drying, but it does the job.
PM Routine --
1) If I were wearing makeup, I would used to always go for plain ol' mineral oil to remove my makeup/oil cleanse and follow again with the Neutrogena Cleanser from the AM. Now I'm trying a cleansing oil that actually emulsifies and rinses away and I'm liking it a lot. I usually follow with a quick swipe of micellar water and continue with my routine. If no makeup, I go straight in with the micellar water to cleanse.
2) MISSHA Time Revolution The First Treatment Essence -- I like this a lot. I've only been using it for a month or so texture wise I don't notice a huge difference in my skin from this product alone. But it is very moisturizing and I think it helps my skin hold onto moisture for longer in conjunction with the other products. I kinda pat this on with bare hands after putting a few drops in my palm.
3) Differin, every other night. I use a pea sized amount all over my cheeks (worst prone for clogs), chin, forehead, and then the remainder on my nose. Holy grail status, will never be without again.
4) Same Hylamide serums from AM.
5) TO Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1% serum -- I love this. It is pretty thick/goopy/gooey and kinda sticky when it dries down but this texture doesn't bother me too much because the residue feeling goes away when I apply other products on top.
6) TO Azelaic Acid Suspension 10% -- On nights I don't use the differin, I will use this with a few drops of face oil mixed in. This has a more slippy/silicone-y feeling that isn't very moisturizing despite it looking very creamy. I mix the oil into the product on my fingertips before applying to my face because I found if I applied a few drops of oil on top of the skin after apply the suspension, the product would pill up and move around. I didn't love this product at first, but after cutting it out for a while I really missed it because it's definitely subtly effective. I read somewhere to pair it with TO's Niacinamide serum and I like them back to back.
7) Avene Skin Recovery Cream -- See AM routine.
8) Random Sample Eye Cream OR Mario Badescu Hyaluronic Eye Cream if I have it on hand. That's the only eye cream I've ever repurchased the full size for after using a sample.
8) CeraVe Healing Ointment -- I use this shit for everything. Seriously, I will put a thin layer all over my face at night to lock in moisture, heavily applied under/around the eyes if my eyes are feeling irritated from eye makeup or my eczema, lip balm, cut balm, burn balm, elbow/callous balm... So good. It's quite a bit more moisturizing than Aquaphor and has ceramides.
OTHER RANDOM BITS: I will also layer the CeraVe Creamy Oil onto my skin under the Avene Skin Recovery Cream in the PM if I'm feeling extra dry/irritated and skip the acids. I like the My Beauty Diary Hyaluronic Acid Sheet masks. I'll usually take a bubble bath once or twice a week and use those on my face during that time.
Feel free to ask me any questions! :)
Foaming cleansers are second cleansers. You can use it in the shower if you want when you wash your face probably won't make much difference plus it is less messy and saves water.
Other recommendations:
Oil Cleanser: Kose Softymo Speedy Cleansing Oil. $10 on Amazon Prime.
Moisturizer: Cosrx Oil-Free Ultra-Moisturizing Lotion with Birch Sap About $22 on Amazon Prime OR Innisfree Green Tea Balancing Lotion About $15 on Amazon Prime
Sunscreen: Biore UV Perfect Milk about $8.00 on Amazon. This sunscreen is sweat and water resistant and won't leave you an oily mess.
What cleared up my cystic acne was constantly using only Neutrogena's benzoyl peroxide and retinol: https://www.neutrogena.com/products/skincare/stubborn-acne-and-stubborn-marks-treatment-bundle/1700145.html?cgid=skin-acne-benzoyl-peroxide&tilePosition=7#start=7
I only used that and CeraVe Pm : https://www.cerave.com/skincare/moisturizers/pm-facial-moisturizing-lotion
I don't know if these are available to you, but I've suffered with acne for 15 years. The best thing I've learned is stick to something for at least 2-3 months or so to get the skin accustomed to it. Minimalism was key for me! I'd use the BP not only in the AM, and a dermatologist recommended to put a thin layer all over the face, not just spot treatment.
I still wore makeup but only if I needed to, and I used different gentle cleansers throughout the months. Since I wear water resistant sunscreen (https://www.target.com/p/australian-gold-botanical-tinted-face-sunscreen-lotion-fair-spf-50-3-fl-oz/-/A-79694449) I use an oil cleanser to take it off: https://www.amazon.com/KOSE-SOFTYMO-Speedy-Cleansing-230ml/dp/B000V2FBAQ
So in total 2 actives, 1 moisturizer, 1 sunscreen, 1 oil cleanser, and 1 gentle face wash = 6 products helped clear my acne along with practicing mindfulness to reduce stress, and taking these vitamins might have reduced some inflammation (https://www.costco.com/nature-made-super-c-immune-complex%2C-200-tablets.product.100678859.html)
YES!!! We got you. Drop your questions and we'll give your the collective hive minded answer. You'll see the answers are all over the place, but ultimately they boil down to a couple of common points.
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PM
Well, we're probably not in the same country, I'm guessing you're in the US?
My fav is on Amazon US though if you wanna try it:
https://www.amazon.com/KOSE-SOFTYMO-Speedy-Cleansing-230ml/dp/B000V2FBAQ
Don't be fooled by the pink colour and "target gender female" (why would they even put that?), anyone can use it.
Yes, you do oil cleanser --> 2nd cleanser (it could be foaming, milk, micellar water, whatever works for you!) There are several oil cleansers that are popular around this sub. Off the top of my head:
Kose Softymo Cleansing Oil (two types, 'speedy' and 'deep cleansing').
My favorite cleansing oil is the FANCL Mild Cleansing Oil but it's a little pricier than the others (still worth the money imo)
I've added links to amazon for each product as a general price estimate, but you'd need to double check shipping, if there are better deals out there, etc.
Not OP, but here it is on Amazon!
It's on Amazon if you are able to order it from there. Not sure about any stores though. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000V2FBAQ/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_LhVWBbA045QE6
Good to hear! I'm glad it worked.
The UVMune sunscreens are designed to be very water resistant, and can be difficult to dully remove with water soluble cleanser alone. My skin used to get irritated and breakout when I was using the previous versions (Skaka fluid), until I started using a cleansing oil. So it might be worth giving it a try. I think if you apply the cleansing oil to dry skin, to break down the sunscreen film, emulsify with some lukewarm water, rinse, then follow up with your regular cleanser (double cleansing) to remove the oil, you should be ok. I don't have acne prone skin, so I can't say for certain that the oil won't break you out. You could give it a try.
This is the cleansing oil I use here. I like it because it's very affordable, and easily accessible for me. It doesn't leave a residue my skin, but I still follow up with a regular cleanser.
This is the one I was using previously here. I really like it too, but it's more expensive, and I have to order it online and get it shipped. I'm sure you can get it lots of places. I just linked to the first link that came up.
I have also tried the Hada Labo cleansing oil, but I didn't like it. Other people do.
I'm not sure if any resource like that is out there, but I'm happy to share my basic technique and products if that would be helpful! My philosophy with skincare was to spend like two weeks of my life doing a ton of research into my ideal routine and then just keep it up forever, maybe checking the science every few years to see if there's been a paradigm shift. I just wanted to mention that as a disclaimer to say that I'm not really an active part of the skincare community, so their answers might be more detailed than mine.
AM: You really just need sunscreen! Most of my friends use the Biore SPF50+ watery essence sunscreen, but I prefer the UVA filters of European sunscreens so I use Bioderma's Photoderm Lait Famille SPF50+. I feel like the Biore one is probably the better cookie cutter option for most people, because the European ones don't look quite as nice on your face.
Some people also use Vitamin C in the morning, but the science seems to be in its infancy on Vitamin C so I haven't personally felt the need to add it to my routine. The most researched Vit C formula is patented and costs like $130/1 oz and I haven't seen enough evidence to warrant recommending something like that.
PM: Double cleansing is really nice because it gets rid of anything hydrophobic in the first oil cleansing step. You apply oil cleanser dry, rub it all of your face, and then add water and rub it off. I usually put my oil cleanser on while I wait for my shower to heat up and then remove it in the shower. I use Kose Softymo's speedy cleansing oil, but you have a lot of leeway with what you use here. The Kose one is the first one I ever used and it's worked perfectly fine, so I've just kept it up for like seven years.
Your second cleanser is just a normal cleanser, and if you already have a favorite cleanser, you could use it here. I use this La Roche Posay Toleraine cleanser because it gets the job done without disrupting my moisture barrier. I also apply this in the shower.
Right after you get out of the shower (or right after you finish your last cleansing step if you're just doing it over the sink), apply your moisturizer. I'm super partial to Cerave PM (which has a permanent $4 off coupon!) and I've turned so many people onto it. If you have really sensitive skin, the niacinamide in it might be too harsh for you, but it would probably be fine.
At this point, I usually apply lotion all over my body, which isn't a face skincare recommendation but still a huge skincare rec in general. Applying lotion straight out of the shower is the best. You could do that, or just wait a few minutes for your skin to get dry to the touch (brush your teeth, floss, play a quick game of blitz chess, whatever). At that point, you can apply tret -- you just need a small pea sized amount for your entire face. Don't spread it too close to your eyes or lips. I recommend 0.04% microspheres.
Then right before bed, just apply a thin occlusive layer over your face. Technically this is optional but I'd highly recommend it, especially on tret. Vaseline is the cheapest option and it works perfectly fine, but I prefer Cerave Healing Ointment because it just feels a bit nicer on my face. The occlusive will just make sure to seal your moisture in overnight, and it'll make the skin turnover process pretty seamless if you're using retinoids.
That's pretty much it. If you do want to incorporate any kind of retinoid (you could also use OTC Differin as a tretinoin alternative), I would recommend just getting the rest of your routine down first so you know if your skin is happy. There's going to be a retinization period once you start any retinoid, and it's going to be a huge confound if you're trying to find good basic skincare products that work for you.
That's the deep version which has citrus essential oils. This is the speedy version that I suggested. There's also a 2 pack for $19
https://www.amazon.com/KOSE-SOFTYMO-Speedy-Cleansing-230ml/dp/B000V2FBAQ
SA isnt really ideal for dry skin types.
Oil cleansing would be a better option for you followed by a gentle cleanser, an antioxidant, and good moisturizer.
What exact product are you using for moisturizer?
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Kose speedy cleansing oil is v affordable, fragrance free, and rinses well.
https://www.amazon.com/KOSE-SOFTYMO-Speedy-Cleansing-230ml/dp/B000V2FBAQ
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I use Softymo Facial Cleansing Oil Speedy from Kose (Japanese product), then follow with a creamy cleanser (made in the state where I live). I share the links of the products here. I have type 1 rosacea in combination with eczema.
https://www.amazon.com/KOSE-SOFTYMO-Speedy-Cleansing-230ml/dp/B000V2FBAQ
This is a popular oil cleanser: https://www.amazon.com/KOSE-SOFTYMO-Speedy-Cleansing-230ml/dp/B000V2FBAQ/
It's recommended to oil cleanse if you wore sunscreen/makeup that day.
Read my comment for product recs to fix dehydrated skin: https://www.reddit.com/r/SkincareAddiction/comments/a27s5k/routine_help_my_sensitive_skin_looks_terrible_and/eavz6n5/
Your cautious and diligent at tracking which is great when you're trying actives. I was curious if you wanted to use less actives but possibly achieve the same results. If you wanted to cut down on actives either a stronger retinoid (types that lean more prescription strength) I'd go for OTC adapalene (aka Differin) or The Ordinary's Azelaic acid.
Since you don't mind taking time to introduce products and do like trying new things there's a couple that may help your dry/combo skin and pores. From my experience with pores and clogged ones (where you can just feel the bump while cleansing and feel like you can even dig out that seed) a good AHA routine that is followed up by a oil massage/cleanse helps pull out the seeds. There's a post from blogger about how to deal with pore, which I can't find right now. It boils down to using a BHA to clean skin, let it sit, apply oil cleanser and let sit, then massage, let sit, add water to cleanse oil cleanser off. I'll try to find the detailed post. But I think this method would work well with PC BHA if you find a oil cleanser you like.
I think the concept of oil massage would help with your clogged pores once your skin uses a stronger active then your current ones. While my skin is oily vs your dry/combo I like using an AHA like glycolic or lactic acid paired with oil cleansing. I use a fairly strong AHA (Alpha Skincare 14% glycolic acid) so you wouldn't want to use that but at a lower percentage The Ordinary's 7% glycolic acid toner would be good to work into routine use and soften the upper layers of skin to help along an oil cleanser massage out the build up in your pores. Your Simple Oil Cleanser sounds like a bad match, but since you like trying new products an oil cleanser could bolster your routine. Unlike like your Neutrogena cleanser and traditional cleansers, I find oil cleansers more tolerating to sit on skin for a more thorough massage of my congested skin. The massage plus a good routine of actives helps get the bits out of the skin. If you're not sure of triggers in oils, using a single oil like mineral oil to massage with should reduce chances of irritation; follow the oil massage with your Neutrogena cleanser. However, for single oils you don't get the benefit of emulsifiying agent so harder to be sure to get a full clean; I use a silicone facial brush to help massage traditional cleansers into the oil to fully break it down. If you don't have too sensitive skin and are willing to try oil cleansers that emulsify I really like <strong>Kose Speedy Cleansing oil</strong>. It's very light weight and mildly fragranced but works a charm when massaging out seeds for me; also washes off easily with water.
My preferred method to dealing with pore congestion is to plan ahead and use a strong AHA like usual. Then days layer plan to do an oil massage and let the oil sit longer then a usual double cleanse. Since you've tested your peel (and not the PC BHA) you could try this method with an oil cleanser but you'll need to find one that doesn't over strip your skin. Kose is a popular product but may not be fast to get, so I suggest mineral oil and follow up with your Neutrogena cleanser. Make sure to clean well since it is hard to break down pure oils; I really like using silicone face scrubbers as the nubs help the cleanser emulsify the oil.
For your dry skin, I think you might want to look into hydrating toners. It's not a focus in SCA but it is in AB (r/AsianBeauty). In AB's wiki hydrating toners gets covered well, and IMO works wonders on dry patches and works wonderfully when paired with AHA usage. The reason, AHAs are hygroscopic and love water so hydrating toners + AHA means moist, plump skin that glows. Love the combo. The AB wiki has links to products but as a general popular rec that I've used and liked are Kikumasamune Sake Skin Lotion High Moisture and Naturie Hatomugi Skin Conditioner. The products are cheap and large, so if you end up not liking them they work great for the body as light hydration. But testing lots of producuts get pricey. If you're willing to buy from other users, under Beauty Exchange you'll find subs to purchase portions of products to test.
My favorites and very affordable oil cleansers are:
You can get both at either Amazon or Yestyle if it is easier for you.
The Kose is on Amazon if you'd rather purchase there.
If you like to order from amazon something that might compare to your sweet almond oil that I think you might like as well is called the Kose Softymo I found this product through a blogger named Kate from the Skincare diaries in this post. She has really good recommendations on skin care in general. She also rosacea too so if you are looking for other stuff to try out I totally recommend her!
Thanks guy!
I use these two for cleansing: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000V2FBAQ/?ref=idea_lv_dp_vv_d https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CE5P580/?ref=idea_lv_dp_vv_d&th=1
And this for moisturizing: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H4GOAZO/?ref=idea_lv_dp_vv_d
Though for moisturizer, you're gonna want different products depending on whether your face skin is dry or oily. Mine is oily.
This is the toner I used: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ECQCVK0/?ref=idea_lv_dp_vv_d
And this is the essence I used (I'm pretty sure it's meant for people with super fair skin, so heads up): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OZE57XW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Dunno if this'll work for everyone, but it helped in my case.
I am 26 years old male and i want to keep looking young in my 30s/40s/50s
My routine consist of cleanser and moisturizer
Cleanser: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000V2FBAQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Moisturizer: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EYVRX0Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Help me achieve that
oil face wash is my favourite, like thesoftymo speedyone.
I use a japanese cleansing oil, just a little rub and everything comes off.
KOSE SOFTYMO Speedy Cleansing Oil 230ml https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000V2FBAQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_LBleBbT2KFRVC
I highly recommend giving it another shot. This is the one I keep coming back to for years even after trying a bunch of other brands.
Try Kose Speedy Cleansing Oil I love it!!!
I use this one:
https://www.amazon.com/KOSE-SOFTYMO-Speedy-Cleansing-230ml/dp/B000V2FBAQ
I haven't felt the need to try any others since it seems to work so well
I focus on skincare to help with this rather than makeup so much. Lately, I've used an oil based makeup remover, super light foaming cleanser, and differin before moisturizing at night. The biggest difference has been the differin, it's actually making my skin kind of dry. I got a tube for $11 off amazon and believe it's available at all Walgreens and regular drugstores. I splurge on a nice moisturizer and that's helped significantly too. I was using Aveeno's calming moisturizer but it started hitting $17-20 a bottle so I said to hell with it and bought the big bottle of Clinique's Dramatically Different moisture gel for $27. Altogether, I finally have normal skin and less acne. Hope this helps!
Hello! I just got all my products in the mail but I want to be clear about the order I will use them in at night. Any suggestions are welcome.
Oil Cleanser ---KOSE Softy Mo Facial Cleansing Oil Speedy
Foam Cleanser ---CeraVe Foaming Facial Cleanser
Essence/Serum/Ampoule (not sure which I got) ---Cosrx Bha Blackhead Power Liquid
Emulsion ---Cosrx Advanced Snail 92 All in one cream
Facial Mask (2-3 times/week) ---My Beauty Diary Facial Mask, Black Pearl
Sleeping Packs (2-3times/week) ---Cosrx Ultimate Moisturizing Honey Overnight Mask
Also I bought this facial oil Goodal Waterest Lasting Water Ad Oil but I'm not sure where to squeeze it into my routine?
In the morning I was going to use:
Foam Cleanser ---CeraVe Foaming Facial Cleanser
Sunscreen ---Biore Sarasara UV Aqua Rich Watery Essence Sunscreen SPF50+ PA+++
Hi, I'm new to all of this. I'm going to purchase these items - probably tomorrow. I'm aware that I have to start with baby steps. I've read that I should start using only the moisturizer then slowly add the others so I see which product responds well with my skin and to make sure to patch test.
I'm just not sure how to put these in a AM and PM format, mind helping me out so when it's time to use all of this in a routine, I'm more confident in what I'm doing, please?
Skin Type: Oily / Combination / Occasional Breakouts| Country/Climate I'm in: USA/Spring|
Top Skin Concern: My skin isn't really smooth or clear. I have blackheads and maybe tiny whiteheads, but there around my whole face like super tiny pimple rocks. It doesn't like bad, only when I'm close up the mirror. I also break out around my check and mouth area.
Oil-based cleanser: KOSE Softy Mo Facial Cleansing Oil Speedy
Low pH Cleanser: Cosrx Low pH Good Morning Gel Cleanser
Moisturizer: COSRX Oil-Free Ultra Moisturizing Lotion
Ance/BHA: Cosrx Bha Blackhead Power Liquid 100 Ml
Sunscreen: Biore Aqua Rich
Spot treatment -[Cosrx] Acne Pimple Master Patch 24EA
Hey guys, I'm transitioning towards AB products and was thinking about getting some cleansers since I'm running out.
For my 1st cleanser, I plan to get the KOSE oil cleanser but I'm not sure between the KOSE SOFTYMO oil or liquid. Does anyone know if there's a distinct difference between these products?
For my 2nd cleanser, I'm planning to integrate CosRx Low PH Good Morning Cleanser into my routine. But I'm curious if I would be over exfoliating if I use this product before Stridex since the CosRx states that it contains a BHA. Or is it ok to use them both since I'll rinse off the CosRx cleanser before using Stridex?
Skin Type: combo | Country/Climate: USA West Coast |Top Skin Concern: Switching to AB products
AM: Rinse with warm water - Cerave Hydrating Cleanser - Cerave Moisturizing Lotion - Biore UV Aqua Rich Watery Essence
PM: Cerave Hydrating Cleanser - Alternating between Stridex Red Box (2%BHA) and NipFab Glycolic Fix Pads (2.8% Glycolic Acid) x2 a week (Will probably stop using the NipFab Pads since they seem to break me out) - Cerave Moisturizing Lotion - Aquaphor
So, I found three new products after doing some bit of research.
KOSE Softy Mo Facial Cleansing Oil Speedy - I read that they updated the formula 6 months ago and all the reviews I could find are of the old formula, but of the old reviews everyone praised it for the skin issues I had. Also, I can't find the pH level of this one.
Tosowoong Enzyme Powder Wash - Plan to use this after oil cleanser. I read similar good reviews on this one for issues I have with my skin. The pH level is 5 according to that mega datasheet for cleanser pH levels.
Advanced Snail 92 All in one cream - Plan to replace my current moisturizer with this. Like the other two, read good reviews for my skin concerns with this one.
I don't think any of them have the niacinamide product you mention or alcohol, which I think dries my skin. I don't think my current moisturizer is working for me. After about two to three hours of applying my current moisturizer in the morning my skin may start to feel tight around my mouth/cheeks, so I picked a new one.
Aside from these three, I still need to find a toner I think. I already found two sunscreens that I plan to use. I don't know which of the three to buy first and test though. If I were to buy the oil cleanser first, would it be fine to use with my western routine? I figured it'd be best to get the oil cleanser/moisturizer first, then the second cleanser if the other two worked out. At the same time my current cleanser is making my skin feel tight/dry/flaky after using it so would it be better to start with replacing my cleanser first?
I really appreciate all the help you've given me by the way, it's helping me out so much.
Softymo Speedy Cleansing Oil changed my life.
Hi AB! Quick question...
I recently made some AB purchases... just not sure how often/when to use them. I have hormonal acne and kind of oil skin in the t-zone area.
I bought KOSE COSMEPORT softymo Speedy Cleansing Oil + Skinfood Peach Sake Toner and + Skinfood Peach Sake Emulsion
Just not sure how often or what order to go in. I use make up wipes to get my make up off first. Should I be using all three products in the AM and PM? I also have Cetaphil's cleanser and lotion.
Thanks a ton.
I'm using Kose Softymo speedy cleansing oil and I quite like it. Another option is a cleansing balm, like Banila Clean it Zero. Both oil cleansers and balm cleansers are effective at makeup removal, which is nice because it eliminates a step. A popular toner is Hada Labo Gokujyun Lotion. As for sunscreens, that is hard for me to say. I currently use a western sunscreen. Many people like Biore Aqua Watery Essence. Maybe give that a try?
I really urge you to check out the HG thread. So many fantastic suggestions there. It will be worth your while to explore it!
edit: fixed links
Have you tried a cleansing oil with emulsifiers? In my experience, they tend to rinse clean without leaving any sort of film behind. I'm currently using Clinique's Take the Day Off Cleansing Oil (only available at Sephora afaik) and it removes all my sunscreen without drying me out. Kose Softymo Speedy Cleansing Oil is another, cheaper alternative (although you'd have to get it online outside of Asia).
I'd also second /u/aaandie's suggestion of using an Asian toner! Hada Labo Goku-jyun Clear Lotion is fairly popular on this sub, and I credit it with making a huge improvement in my skin! I use a very small amount and pat it on my face while it's still wet from cleansing, and then follow up with moisturizer. No more painful tightness or flakes, just soft, hydrated skin.
I actually ended up getting a cleansing oil. This one to be exact, http://www.amazon.com/COSMEPORT-softymo-Speedy-Cleansing-230ml/dp/B000V2FBAQ
If you search it more you can probably find it cheaper from other sellers.