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If you want to go off Amazon, this one would be better on the stabs where plastic touches plastic - [link]
Use a brush, and do it sparingly. It will be thick. Normally people use 205 grade 0, the Amazon link above is 205 grade 2. The grade is basically viscosity.
This may sound pretty dumb and nubish but is there any difference between this particular 205 ([link]) and 205g0?
Also is this an okay lube to use on an HHKBs sliders or should I stick to buying 3204 from like NK or some other website?
This is Krytox 205g2, and not 205g0, meaning it is way thicker, so you have to use way less. If I was bounded to Amazon and only Amazon I would get that or as someone else commented, super lube. You can definitely find better lube off of Amazon, though.
They have Krytox lube here:
But I see people in the reviews note that it's 205g2 and not 205g0. I believe both work but from what I have seen (also new to KB building) 205g0 is generally more popular because it's easier to work with?
I'm assuming you're asking about 205g2? I'm pretty inexperienced here so I'm not qualified to say for sure, but the reviews are saying they've used it for switches successfully, and I see quite a few reports of it working fine for switches on this subreddit. You just need to use a very, very small amount of it since it's thick. If you're lubing for the first time it's probably easier to just source some 205g0 so you can see what "normal" is.
Everytime I see someone drop a link for lube its to some kinda obscure 3rd party website where they're almost always sold out. Why dont people drop link to the Krytox 205 on Amazon? Are they not the same? And if they aren't the same, would the Amazon stuff work?
I'm not sure because I can't see the bottle or know where you got it from. But for example, this bottle of Krytox 205 on amazon is 205g2. It is a bit thicker than 205g0. 205g0 is best described as a mixture of 205g2 and Krytox 105 oil.
Then you probably didn't order g0, FYI.
If it's this: https://www.amazon.com/Krytox-Grease-Pure-PFPE-PTFE/dp/B00MWLDALQ/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=205g0&qid=1622672161&sr=8-1
You ordered the wrong lube.
Buy from keyboard vendors.
What is the difference between Krytox 205 g0 found in mech keyboard shops like NovelKeys vs Krytox 205 Pure PFPE/PTFE like found at Amazon?
This Amazon stuff is around 15 grams and only $5 more than 5 mL from NovelKeys (they claim its about 10g but idk how they get that number).
I have an Ergodox EZ with cherry MX browns. I felt the same roughness you’re talking about.
I used Taeha Types’ tutorial [link] with krytox GPL 205. [link].
I used a tiny bit of lube and I’ve been very happy with the result. The keys feel much nicer and have a more satisfying ‘thok’. It took me maybe 6 unhurried and pleasant hours to pull, open, lube, close, and reseat each switch. My switches didn’t need to be unsoldered and resoldered. I expect that would be much more of a PITA.
Hope this helps!
Krytox by Chemours GPL 205 Grease, Pure PFPE/PTFE, 0.5 oz Tube (D10170248) [link]
g2 is the standard so for example this is 205g2:
Krytox 205 on Amazon is all I could find for you. I’m not sure what the difference is between grade 0.
This is 205G2. I'm not sure about that superlube.
You could try this. It isn't 205g0 but, some people have used it to lube their switches. Don't use too much of this stuff as it is thicker than 205g0.
Or you could try spray lubing. It's pretty messy but, very inexpensive. I'll drop a link to the product as well as Wildcat's tutorial.
When you say 205g0 is that the same as the Krytox 205 from amazon ? I don’t see it shows the “g0”
Krytox GPL 205 Grease, Pure PFPE/PTFE, 0.5 oz Tube [link]
Not sure... but, here is the link off amazon
Krytox GPL 205 Grease, Pure PFPE/PTFE, 0.5 oz Tube [link]
Krytox 205. . It’s viscous enough to lube without getting things too “wet.”
I didn't know there was a difference, this is what i was looking at: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MWLDALQ?pf_rd_r=VRSX99AH14P0FJAKR97J&pf_rd_p=edaba0ee-c2fe-4124-9f5d-b31d6b1bfbee
That is 205g2
this is the right lube for the switches right https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MWLDALQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
Like this? thishttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MWLDALQ/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_GFerFbNNZ6R23
Some Keebs are just born to have that said "twang" when you hit the space bar or any key that needs stabs for that matter. A lot of the time its just poor quality material or maybe you just got a lemon. Might be worth trying a round 2 with amazon and see if they have another one in stock for a replacement. Otherwise Try lubing your stabs and keys to see if that helps with your perfect idea of a key clicking.
Lube I use https://www.amazon.com/Chemours-D12431805-Krytox-GPL205-Grease/dp/B00MWLDALQ?th=1
just wondering where you bought the lube. on Amazon, the one I'm looking is grade 2 not grade 0.
Isn’t 205g2 what you can get on amazon?
I used regular Krytox 205 instead of Krytox 205g0 as you can get it on Amazon and it works great for stabs (and even for switches if you are very liberal)
For stabs (stab housing/stem) your best bet is krytox 205, you can get a half oz tube for 20 bucks on amazon.. That is going to yield better results, trust me..
205 is also amazing on linears.. I wouldnt use anything less or any other brand, especially a 'custom mix' that has oil mixed in...oil doesnt last as long.. you want grease because it doesnt have the fluidity of oil, lasts much longer..
For tactiles/clicky 202-204 depending on spring weight
For the stab bar inserts
It can be hard to describe the difference but the easiest way to describe it that I know of is like rubbing your fingers over perforated leather (more course but subtle) vs textile leather. You will definitely be able to tell a difference, and it's all about "key feel". It's not required at all, it's a just a matter of preference. I personally like it because the sound is more "muted" and the feel is more "fluid" imo.
If you don't know if you should do it, I would recommend trying some out at a meetup or if you have a cheap mech board (well fairly cheap) you can open the switches with an opener (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1363) and some krytox 205 (https://www.amazon.com/Chemours-Krytox-Grease-Pure-PFPE/dp/B00MWLDALQ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1550882164&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=krytox+205&psc=1).
I have lubed 65g zealio with krytox 205 grease
this one: [link]
I lubed all the way down the sliders and also the bumps.
Is that okay?
Here is a short build inventory for people who may want to perform this mod in the future:
Lube and replace switches based on WFD's guides. Get two small paintbrushes and a pair of forceps or tweezers to help manipulate the components during the lubrication process. You should also whip up a couple of these guys. They make opening the switches a hell of a lot easier.
This was only my second time desoldering so I learned a lot along the way. Quality, flux-treated desoldering braid and a temperature controlled soldering iron with a chisel tip was the most reliable method I found to desolder. I used the Hakko FX888D soldering iron and station with a 2.4 mm x 14.5 mm Hakko chisel tip. I used Chemtronics' Chem-Wick desoldering braid to remove the solder from the plated through holes on the PCB. You have to take extra care when using desoldering braid not to heat up other components on the board, but with enough practice you will be a pro!
One of the review comments explains -
"Just so everyone knows, this is Krytox 205g2, not 205g0.
This is still an excellent lube for mechanical keyboard switches, the only difference is that this is significantly thicker than grade 0, so you need to use even less lube.
Lubing switches is already a "less is more" event, so for this lube, you need to hit that "There's no way that's enough lube" point to actually be the required amount of lube."
I am planning on getting some of this when my current stock runs out.
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Also, can’t you just buy that on amazon? Krytox GPL 205 Grease, Pure PFPE/PTFE, 0.5 oz Tube [link]