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I've been using the Lutron Connected Bulb Remote. They work great:
From one of the Amazon reviews, here's the pairing instructions:
Yes, this can be done!
The Lutron dimmer needs to be set to the same zigbee channel as the Hue Hub else the bulbs will switch channels when they pair with the Lutron remote.
To do this, add the Lutron remote to the Hue Hub via add accessory. It won't show up in the Hue Hub app but you'll see the Lutron dimmer flash green a few times if successful.
You can then pair the Lutron to the bulb as expected.
See the second amazon review here for the detailed steps:
This is exactly what you are looking for— mounts in a single gang opening and can control most connected bulbs.
Lutron LZL-4B-WH-L01 Connected Bulb Remote [link]
EDIT: sorry, didn’t see you already knew about this remote.
They’re discontinued and expensive/tough to find, but you can reset hue bulbs with a Lutron Connected Bulb Remote. It looks like a Pico, but actually uses Zigbee. [link]
Upside is you can use it without actually opening the packaging. It’s easy to use it once to reset your bulb and then resell still as new.
Those Pico remotes won't work with I'm assuming Hue light bulbs you have. You'll need the Lutron connected Pico remotes which were discontinued back in December last year. If you've found a way to control those bulbs with the regular Pico remotes, please share.
Yes, but you have to get the Lutron pico remote that works via Zigbee rather than Clear Connect.
You can set it to turn on individual bulbs, or turn on entire scenes.
Check out the Lutron Connected Bulb Remote [link]. It’s basically a Zigbee remote for Hue and other zigbee bulbs.
I’ve replaced most of my bulbs with Hue and light switches with these. You can get the lutron pico Wall plate and put these remotes in your old switches. I removed my traditional switches and connected the wires together so the fixtures are always on. Been working great so far.
The trick with Abode is to pair the remote to the Abode hub, then pair the bulbs to the Abode hub, then pair the remote to the bulbs.
I bought a Pico remote hoping it would be able to control my other lights or trigger shortcuts. It can't though. The good news is that this other Lutron remote CAN:
We have two of these, one mounted to a wall plate using the included 3M backed tape and one in the upstairs bedroom.
Ah, no. Those are to control a light switch. I have about 25 of them in my house and highly recommend them.
I try my hardest to install hue where power can't be cut. Everywhere else I use those.
The switches in question that I use to control hue lights are:
Lutron LZL-4B-WH-L01 Connected Bulb Remote
So I just got these Lutron Connected Bulb Remotes to replace my Hue Dimmer switches as they actually fit in a decora Wall plate and don't look hideous. What I didn't realize is how long the delay there was between triggering the dimmer switch, it talking to the hue bridge, which then talks to the bulbs. Since these remotes talk directly to the bulbs themselves - it is lightning fast. It's wild!
Seriously recommend them for anyone who has Hue lights around.
I have the Wink hub and like it. I don't know how it compares to Smart Things. Some people, myself included, have had an issue where communication breaks down between HA and Wink, and HA stops displaying the current state of items, but I think that will be fixed in the next release.
The only reason I did that instead of a USB stick is that I started my home automation with Wink, and only tried Home Assistant when I saw how much more robust of a platform it was. That said, I do find it easier to add things to Wink than to HA, so that's a bonus. I also use these little remotes a few places: [link] And I don't know if they can be connected directly to HA yet.
Basically I use HA for most of my automations, but I use Wink for manual control of my items, whether I'm home or away.
However, it gets a little messy when I start adding things directly to HA because they're not Wink-compatible. Currently I have a Wifi plug that's not controllable by Wink and a Xioami hub with a couple of items hooked up to it, so I can no longer rely exclusively on the Wink hub for manual control.
Still, I like the hub, and I like the app, and since HA is doing all the automation from a Raspberry Pi, I never had to root it.
My guess is that you could do almost all of the same things using a HA installation with the right USB stick, but I still like Wink because I can get stuff added and working more quickly.
It sounds like you're more disappointed by the aesthetics of the device rather than the function? What would your ideal design be? Would it be modeled off of anything existing today? What kind of functions are you looking for? And what would make use more satisfying?
edi: How do the aesthetics of the Lutron remote compare? [link]
I'm in the same boat as these other guys. Did Caseta Switches throughout the house. That said, your idea is fine. I've got that setup in my kitchen. Hue bulbs, line + load wired together with a wire nut and a Lutron Pico remote controlling them via Indigo (Mac HA software). Alternatively, if you're not interested in a hub/software solution and don't care about color changing bulbs you could check out the Lutron Connected Bulb Remote ([link]). It can directly control Zigbee based lighting. The only problem being that it pairs to them directly, un-linking them from any hub you may have, the exception being Wink.
Just throwing that out there as they're designed to mount with a wall plate around them and would be less an eyesore than a button stuck to a blank plate.
you can also get the Lutron connected bulb remote for physical control, can get a little expensive if you outfit every lamp with hue bulbs and a remote though.
I believe you are looking for this: https://www.amazon.com/Lutron-LZL-4B-WH-L01-Connected-Bulb-Remote/dp/B014STZASK
Unfortunately, this has been discontinued. Good luck finding one for a reasonable price.
Just got this email from Amazon:
Is there a reason why you're going the bulb route instead of the smart switches? Depending on how many bulbs you get, the cost can get up there pretty quickly. I use Lutron Caseta switches and they integrate well to smartthings and then into google home. I also have 4 downlights with hue bulbs in them for one room. What I did was just wired the power wires behind the switch to always have power to the fixture. At the time, Lutron sold a remote that looked the the other smart switches I installed that could control hue light bulbs. I just put it over the wires with a bracket that Lutron made as well.
I know this isn't exactly the response you were looking for but there are decora style hue switches. Technically they are remotes but you can hardwire your lights to always be on and install the remotes as decora switches. My current system consists of 27 hue bulbs controlled by 12 of these remotes/switches and it works great. Links and documentation below.
Unpackaged the Lutron remote
Put the remote within 4 inches of your Hue Hub
Open the Hue app and go to Settings -> Accessory Setup -> Click the + Button in the bottom right corner -> Hue dimmer Switch -> Option 1 -> LED blinking
Next, while the app shows as searching, press and hold the top "On" button on the Lutron remote
After about 10 seconds or so, you'll see the green LED on the remote start flashing rapidly. Keep holding until the light turns off
The remote is now paired with the bridge and you can exit out of the Hue app (It'll still be saying searching…)
Now you can proceed with pairing the remote as the instructions say
Simply go next to the Hue bulb that you want to control with the remote and hold down that top "On" button on the remote
The Hue bulb will flash three times and then grow dim or turn off
You should now be able to control the bulb with both the remote and the Hue app!
If you want to pair any other bulbs, perform the same steps with the next bulb
Wow, well would you look at that, looks like they are all gone. Good thing I got more recently.
Lutron LZL-4B-WH-L01 Connected Bulb Remote
This will work fitted into this
And works with standalone zigbee bulbs, a hue hub, or smartthings.
You can also use these Lutron remotes as wall switches...works with hue and each of the 4 buttons can trigger a scene.
Lutron Connected Bulb Remote
Just read you r post. Lutron also makes a remote that is compatible with Hue lights: [link]
This remote will allow you to turn on, off, and dim your Hue lights. It won't allow you to change colors though. Here is a Youtube video showing how to use this particular remote: [link]
I used to have this remote when I had a bunch of Hue lights. But I have since sold off most of my Hue lights and don't own this remote any more either. But it was great to use at the time.
Thats awesome that you know how to do that but...
Just get these with a pico bracket.
They control hue bulbs perfectly and have the same design language as the Lutron Caseta line.
Here's how to pair them.
> Have you thought about an enclosure that could sit on a side table
Do you mean something like the Lutron Connected Bulb Remote?
I use this one for two of the lights in my house:
Get this accessory and it fits in your standard light switch.
Lutron PICO-WBX-ADAPT Pico Wallplate Bracket [link]
is this part of the Hue ecosystem / friend of hue / bridge?
Would it pair with the hue dimming switch or the lutron remote?
Maybe stick one of these on the wall.
While the approach of using a wall switch to turn off Lightify bulbs works for u/bhan89, I'm not sure it is a good idea if you want to maintain a stable zigbee mesh network.
A zigbee network consists of a single coordinator (Wink hub in this case), line-powered devices (eg. zigbee switches/bulbs) that function as routers, and battery-powered end-devices (eg. sensors) that do not route.
When line-powered devices are added to the network, the coordinator builds a "map" of the network topology to discover routes to send commands to other devices in the zigbee mesh that it controls. Taking line-powered devices on/off the network by powering them down makes the mesh unstable - battery powered devices will frequently go offline, and other line-powered devices that are dependent on the (powered off) routers will become erratic.
There is a better approach to getting a wall switch that will not disturb the zigbee mesh - Lutron Connected Bulb Remotes. These are Wink compatible - they can be paired directly to zigbee lights, or assigned shortcuts using the Wink app. Lutron sells an wall mount adaptor for these remotes, and standard Decora/Claro wall plates work with them. Turning your Lightify bulbs on/off with one of these will leave the bulbs powered even when they are "off", ensuring that your zigbee network is stable.
not zwave but [link]
get that and the mounting kit
I think in your case I would get a Lutron remote with Cree Connected bulbs.
Not sure if it works with OpenHAB, but maybe the Lutron Connected Bulb Remote.
Just as another alternative (don't know your usage case specifically) but you could hard wire the switch and install a lutron connected bulb remote in the gang box instead. Then you've got a guest friendly alternative that doesn't kill power to the bulb.
Connected Bulb Remote
Wall Plate Bracket
Maybe it's not what you're looking for though.
this? and it works out of the box with hue?
Agree with this as well. There are wall mount kits available also.
In wall kit
Edit: if you do decide to go with the lutron option read through the Q&As and reviews on how to pair it with the hue hub if you have hue bulbs
These work as well.
You'll want to get the Connected Bulb Remote to run the setup I described. I don't think the other models work the same. If mounting in a wall plate, you'll also need the bracket.
1) I think this is way simpler than people realize
These will pair with the bulbs and can be mounted into a standard decora plate. They can be set up for on/off/dim or scene per button with most hubs. Processing scenes on the Wink is slow, but you can have on/off/dim control multiple lights- which is a direct pair. This is also neat because if 'cloud' goes down these remotes still work.
You said z-wave in the title, but state you have zigbee bulbs. This remote uses zigbee
2) Z-wave switches, or any connected switch for that matter, are 'stateless'. This means an 'input' wont have a lasting change to a position. The most common methods are a spring loaded rocker switch and a push button. The rocker switch will immediately return the switch to a 'neutral' state on release. A push button obviously springs right back into place.
*edit: Didn't originally address second question