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Occupancy sensor (automatic light switch) in the basement, laundry, and walk-in closets. We got these Lutron models from Amazon for $20. Set them to 1 or 2 minutes for the closets, a little more for the laundry, and whatever works for you for the basement. Not having to reach for the light switch with your hands full is really convenient.
Does a homekit-enabled lightswitch with integrated motion sensor exist - something like this with homekit integration?
I use these in my closets and pantry. I have smart dimmers everywhere else, but keep it simple in the pantry.
Why do you need Alexa support? It just turns on when you go in and off when you go out.
I just put one of these in, and it works great. There is a very minimal delay when you walk in, but it's cheap and works.
Lutron Maestro Motion Sensor Switch, No Neutral Required, 250 Watts, Single-Pole, MS-OPS2-WH, White - Electrical Outlet Switches - Amazon.com
I installed these in my laundry room and closet in my old house
Walk into those rooms and the lights just turn on, walk out and a minute later they turn off.
Had them installed for probably 2 years. Since I moved it’s been an eye opener how much I took those little switches for granted. They are amazing.
Having a smart home doesn’t mean you have everything connected to the internet or controlled through some app. Simple things like dumb motion sensor light switches are more “smart” than an app controlled equivalent.
Looking for switch with integrated motion sensor (would appear as 2 devices). Lutron Maestro has this (for reference, link here), but that one is not compatible with HomeKit.
I've put these in rooms I use the most & they are great.
Something like these. Lutron Maestro Sensor Switch, 2 Amp, No Neutral Required, Single-Pole, MS-OPS2-WH, White [link] (note the Canadian prices)
It's not really smarthome, but lutron makes switches that do that. It's the vacancy option.
Basically they have two settings. Occupancy will turn lights on when they detect motion. Vacancy requires you to turn them on, but turns them off after a period of no motion.
Lutron Maestro Sensor switch, 2A, No Neutral Required, Single-Pole, MS-OPS2-WH, White [link]
What about installing two of these, one at the top switch and one at the bottom? [link]
Then, configure the setting to turn on by motion but turn off after 1, 5, or 15 minutes if no movement is detected. You can still press the button to manually turn on if needed.
Don't overthink it. I watched all these videos about installing a pin in the frame of a laundry closet door when all I needed was a $12 motion sensing pass-through outlet.
Instead of focusing on the bulbs with the non-standard sockets, you can just replace the wall switch with a motion sensing one. Just take into account that if people take showers in there, it might not see them behind the curtain.
My in-laws have cats and my father-in-law figured out how to narrow the view above the space normally occupied by the cats. He uses motion sensing switches throughout the rooms in the basement.
Or this Lutron only rated for 2Amps.
It sounds like you have a standard two-way switch, meaning you only have line and load. The switch simply allows or interrupts current from the hot wire to flow out the load wire.
In your situation, the switch is a dumb device. It is purely mechanical and doesn't need power to function. Therefore, there is no neutral wire in the box.
Unfortunately, your motion sensor requires power, which means it requires a current flow.
So you have a couple options:
If you go with option 2, you'll need a ground wire, so you may be back to option 1 anyway.
Both of your examples are good examples of overthinking things, in my opinion. I bet you have switches on both sides of your family room - on one side, you can get to the dining room lights and on the other, to the kitchen lights. So if you have one central "fancy" switch, now what - you're going to manage your kitchen lights on the way from the dining room? It's ok to use a regular switch when it makes sense. And your basement example is almost identical to my front entrance and all I did was put in a motion sensor switch and now the lights turn on when I open the door and turn off after a few seconds of no motion (that config won't work for basement but you can get one that turns off at the top with a physical switch). Something like this (not exactly what I have) - [link]
Yea it's pretty standard for that time period. People will still do it now. Basically the "feed" is at the light location and they ran a single Romex cable to the switch location. Switch boxes were smaller back then so it was even more motivation to do it that way so less wires would be at switching locations.
You can either find an occupancy sensor that doesn't require a neutral to operate like this or rewire.
Because then you also have to put in a light or switch controlled by the sensor. Also, a motion sensor switch can be had for less than $20 compared to $40 for this hinge sensor.
Yes, thats possible.
Basically, you're setting up a rule in Smartthings under the "Smart Lights" smartapp that says, turn on <GE switch> when motion is detected with <motion sensor>.
Alternatively, I would recommend using Lutron motion sensor ([link]). It's just cheaper and does the same thing.
While I do have plenty of GE zwave switches and Hue bulbs throughout my house, I have those Lutron motion switch in my garage, pantry, laundry room, bathrooms, etc.. I dont need those rooms to be smart--just need to turn on when motion is detected.
edit: missed the part that said the switch is inside the house. The first option is best for your use case.
Unless you want redundancy, your thermostat can be your freeze sensor. The ecobee will send out temperature notifications and it also supports high/low thresholds on IFTTT if you're into that.
Also, look into motion sensing light switches. I use them in bathrooms and closets and they suit me well. They're a pretty cheap way to get some additional convenience.
Lutron Maestro Motion Sensor Switch, No Neutral Required, 250 Watts, Single-Pole, MS-OPS2-WH, White [link]
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It's not a smart switch, this one - [link]
i recommend something like this: [link]
and for twice the money, you can add a humidity switch for the fan, as well.
They make these but they would need to be installed by someone that knows a bit about what they are doing. And the cost offset may or may not be worth it.
Lutron Maestro Motion Sensor Switch | No Neutral Required, 250 Watts, Single-Pole | MS-OPS2-WH, White [link]
I got them from HD during a sale years ago
Lots of great ideas were noted in your other thread here:
Our voice/memory does change over time. I give my lights and wall switches names. Nato Alphabet (Alpha, Bravo, Charlie), but the sound is clear and unique. The name "office lamp" is easier to remember, but Google picks up Foxtrot. Google is pretty good at recognizing my voice, but it also reminds me to speak with intent.
I like the motion sensor (which works with home automation).
Things like a dark hallway are harder to navigate at night.
I did a silly thing, stood up, and pulled off my hoodie. No visual queues, so over I fell. Felt like an idiot as I can stand on one foot and close my eyes. Yet, it was the motion of pulling off the hoodie and not having a visual, down I went. Lighted pathways are good.
These things are amazing in the garage/bathroom/etc: [link]. They're just dumb motion sensors, but still great.
Don't overcomplicate things. There's a place for fancy home automation, but turning on a light when you enter the room is best handled with hardware that does one job and will never fail if your WiFi goes down.
I was a bit skeptical, but this device does that and Lutron is a major company.
This is generally something that should be planned out before the cabinets are installed and even prior to drywall being hung when possible. You need to have an outlet installed in each cabinet and have all three of those outlets controlled by a single switch.
If you can make that happen, I would recommend using a motion switch with a built in daylight sensor. They are about $20 and will turn on the lights any time someone walks into the kitchen and it’s dark. I have used something like this for the past 5 years and it has worked well.
motion sensor switch
In terms of the lights the self, there are dozens of options on Amazon. I used a led strip light that is only $25 and comes with an AC adaptor to plug into the wall. They can be cut to length with a pair of scissors.
led strip lights
As another user has mentioned, hopefully you have an unfinished basement below your kitchen, or an attic above so that the electrical wires can be ran for the outlets.
When I did my remodel I wired an outlet into my base cabinet. This outlet is controlled by a motion sensor switch that has a daylight sensor built in. When I walk into my Kitchen in the evening, the lights automatically pop on.
As for the lights themself, I bought a 32’ white led strip lights from amazon that cost under $20 and a dc convert that allows them to be plugged into the outlet. The led strip lights are attached under the front lip of the cabinet using the 3m adhesive back. Very simple to install and replace if/when needed.
I want something like this [link]
Use this: https://www.amazon.com/Lutron-Maestro-Required-Single-Pole-MS-OPS2-WH/dp/B005WM3ALC/
You can set how long it turns off after it is turned on and stops sensing motion to 10 minutes. Much easier and cheaper than getting a zwave switch + motion sensor or similar.
would this work?
I used these. They work great so far!
Does each area have its own switch? If so, forget automation with door sensors. Grab a PIR switch, such as
No reason to over complicate it
Or get an LED motion-activated light like these:
(That is what I use, I love it).
In my 30 seconds of googling, Occupancy sensors looks like what I want.
I like these [link]
unless someone has a better idea.