{"product":{"product_id":"0375714499","title":"Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media","price":"19.8","image_url":"https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/514vU-m6ulL._SL500_.jpg","url":"https://www.amazon.com/dp/0375714499"},"comments":[{"body":"[Read this.](https://www.amazon.ca/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499/ref=asc_df_0375714499/?tag=googlemobshop-20\u0026amp;linkCode=df0\u0026amp;hvadid=293022269264\u0026amp;hvpos=1o1\u0026amp;hvnetw=g\u0026amp;hvrand=9759185945916273621\u0026amp;hvpone=\u0026amp;hvptwo=\u0026amp;hvqmt=\u0026amp;hvdev=m\u0026amp;hvdvcmdl=\u0026amp;hvlocint=\u0026amp;hvlocphy=9000749\u0026amp;hvtargid=pla-627168763432\u0026amp;psc=1)\r\n\r\nOr just Chomsky's essays on Vietnam, widely available for free online.\r\n\r\n---\r\nThe US were the aggressors in a war of imperialism at first to maintain French colonial control of Indochina and then excused their Holocaust of Vietnamese civilians and combatants defending their homeland from bombs and genocide and torture with unverified notions of \"domino theory\" as part of a larger ideological war repeatedly used to excuse imperialism, torture, surveillance, genocide, repression, and domestic wealth disparity. \r\n\r\nThey engaged in widespread, consistent carpet-bombing, torture, repression, chemical and biological warfare, environmental destruction, Roman Plowing, and massacre on the people of South Vietnam. They installed a puppet regime and eliminated democracy and purged dissidents and civilians alike. They marched through destroyed villages and massacred the survivors after bombing them with millions of tonnes of bombs, far greater in a few years, than all the bombs dropped during WWII. Their environmental destruction is still devastating and lead to widespread famine and starvation and poverty.\r\n\r\nSome reliable historians estimate 2 million Vietnamese died, or some figures have it at 1.5M. A great, great many were civilians and the combatants were defending their homeland against these atrocities, so they were also innocent. The war accomplished nothing but a communist victory in Vietnam and the US repeatedly broke their own peace agreements concluding the war. They pushed Vietnam into systemic, long-lasting poverty thereafter. The only thing the war accomplished was widespread suffering.","subreddit_name":"worldnews","author":"MSHDigit"},{"body":"\u0026gt;More specifically, it's Disney lobbying very hard \r\n\r\nYes but lets not mince words here, there has been many times the government has been able to protect the public interest but didn't.\r\n\r\nOur governments do not work like we think they do because we've been mis-educated.\r\n\r\nManufacturing consent:\r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499/","subreddit_name":"pcgaming","author":"ffaanawesm2"},{"body":"Public attitudes are shaped and driven by the media. If the public doesn't care, it's because we've spent years conditioning them not to care. If the public in general can't name many middle eastern cultures beyond \"Muslim\", that is very much the fault of the media.\r\n\r\nIf prominent newspapers started giving front page headlines to the plight of the Kurds, you'd certainly see a considerable public reaction, but right now the cycle is dominated by the anti-communist Hong-Kong protest coverage because it serves an agenda for the United States. Kurds being killed because the American government made the decision to abandon them? That's a bad look on America and the media won't give it nearly as much attention. See [Manufacturing Consent](https://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499) on this dynamic.","subreddit_name":"OutOfTheLoop","author":"Metlover"},{"body":"I really **really** recommend reading Manufacturing Consent to anyone who hasn't. Its as relevant today as when it was written. One of its focuses is on New York Times: https://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499 or however the heck you read books. I don't think Noam would give a crap if you pirate it.","subreddit_name":"WikiLeaks","author":"Bombast-"},{"body":"Prof. Chomsky literally co-wrote the book on how the media is used by the ruling class to get the public to buy into the establishment narrative. \r\n\r\nGive this book a read. \r\nhttps://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499","subreddit_name":"SandersForPresident","author":"Listen2Hedges"},{"body":"Noam Chomsky lays out in [Manufacturing Consent](https://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499) how the major media entities have acted as an arm of the US intelligence agencies since the start of the Cold War, AP in particular. Also be aware the CIA uses \"anonymous sources\" to pick winners and losers in journalism, feeding the story to those who \"play ball\".","subreddit_name":"moderatepolitics","author":"superpuff420"},{"body":"I don't, I remain cynical of everything I hear coming out of government agencies and politicians and then I laugh at mainstream society as they argue and fight each other over stupid things like masks and mayo sauce on hamburgers. \r\n\r\nWe've got to do better, but public opinion is easily controlled and divided. Check out the book https://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499 if you have never read it before.\r\n\r\nI hope society changes and people do better but I'm certainly not optimistic about it :(","subreddit_name":"worldnews","author":"ShellOilNigeria"},{"body":"Wow, the Leftists are the exact definition of Mainstream media NPCs, they belive on everything the Mainstream media tells them. [Those guys are the exact definition of Manufacturing Consent](https://www.amazon.com.br/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499).","subreddit_name":"TheLeftCantMeme","author":"Elion21"},{"body":"Oh sweetie... Allow me to present to you the book [Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media](https://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499) A book that came out back in 1988 that talks about how the media is a right wing vehicle to promote the status quo of supporting military intervention on the behalf of defending Capital.","subreddit_name":"Persecutionfetish","author":"translove228"},{"body":"\u0026gt;The difference is that the left is, ime, skeptical of the outcomes of the market\r\n\r\nOf course. There are huge, big problems with corporate control of media, and [the left has been talking about it for ages](https://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499). But our proposed solutions have never been about forcing privately held media to carry particular content -- that's the insanity being discussed here.\r\n\r\nIf you want to talk about funding publicly-owned media (social or otherwise) or regulating the market itself (anti-trust measures, FCC oversight of mergers and consolidation, etc.) I'm all ears. But proposing a policy shift that would compel a private actor to carry a *fucking lie* because it came from a *government representative*, that is the antithesis of 400 years of the liberal tradition.","subreddit_name":"samharris","author":"JR-Oppie"},{"body":"\u0026gt; In the end if people enjoy it and purchase it that's all that really matters, it really doesnt affect anyone else.\r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Manufacturing+Consent\u0026amp;qid=1637769073\u0026amp;s=books\u0026amp;sr=1-1\r\n\r\ndon't think, just consume, consume, consume.","subreddit_name":"sixers","author":"bensimmonsismydaddy"},{"body":"\u0026gt; Blaming this on \"the general public\" is a great way of shifting responsibility\r\n\r\nExcept the media's institutions [never served the public](https://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499/) to begin with, that was the myth we were sold.","subreddit_name":"Documentaries","author":"suppa565"},{"body":"It just means that media outlets such as the NYTimes, Reuters, CNN, Fox, WaPo, etc. have proven time and time again to be highly cooperative towards US state propaganda interests. There’s an [entire book](https://www.amazon.com/dp/0375714499/) full of examples beyond just the WMDs in Iraq. The pattern is the same:\r\n\r\n1. Step one make up some atrocity that the target country is committing.\r\n\r\n2. Have think-tanks produce “studies” that “prove” the atrocities.\r\n\r\n3. Have the aforementioned media outlets write stories based on those “studies” to get everyone to believe it.\r\n\r\n4. Have those media outlets cite each other as references to make people believe it even more.\r\n\r\n5. Make sure the atrocities committed by us and our friendly countries don’t make the front page so they are drowned out by stories about our target country.\r\n\r\n6. Profit by selling a ton of weapons.\r\n\r\n7. Profit even more if we can convince the public that the target country deserves to be invaded and plundered.","subreddit_name":"worldnews","author":"onlywei"},{"body":"If you had asked me that question before your prior comment, I might have been inclined to answer at more length. But the bluster is a turnoff -- if you're already pretending to know what you're talking about when you clearly don't, there's little incentive for me to continue here. While you're certainly living up to your username, it just doesn't make for a pleasant or productive conversation.\r\n\r\nBut as a start, I'll offer the following: bias is something (all) people/media organizations *have.* Propaganda is something (some) people/media organizations *make*. One no doubt regularly plays a role in the other, but it is hardly the only qualifying criteria. For the rest of the explanation, I'd start with wikipedia and [go from there](https://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499).","subreddit_name":"samharris","author":"JR-Oppie"},{"body":"Read Manufacturing Consent.\r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.de/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499\r\n\r\n\u0026gt;The issue you are describing is very disconnected from the german public broadcasting service's reality.\r\n\r\nIt is only disconnected from the reality that you have accepted, and that doesn't necessarily mean that it's wrong. \r\n\r\n\u0026gt;there are mechanisms in place to prevent influencing by politicians.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt's not any particular politician or anything that influences it. It's the whole superstructure and incentives. These mechanisms you're talking about don't really work in reality when it really comes down to it, and only work just enough to convince the public that it does for the more trivial stuff which incidentally, acts as a more sophisticated form of control.","subreddit_name":"worldnews","author":"pongpongisking"}]}