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I have used the "quantum" LED grow light through one winter. Full spectrum and energy efficient. A 2x2 cost around $80 now. You can put the Onc, and Phal outside the 2x2 footprint. My Cattleya type grows inside the 2x2 and about 24 inches from the light. They all seemed to do fine. A wifi switch controller and a small fan is almost a must. You may run out of space faster than you expected. I upgraded to a 3x3 within 6 weeks, fyi.
The one you have isn't horrible, generally speaking. It'll grow plants. It'll grow some veggies. It's only 75 watts.
If you're looking for a legit upgrade, I'd recommend Mars hydro and spider farmer.
This light will blow the one you have away. Not just because it's more wattage, but it's got better LEDs and a better all-around spectrum and array.
I use the Mars tsw2000 for my plants over the winter and the results are great when combined with a good environment. Peace lilies, canna lilies, tropical hibiscus, aloes, orchid, money tree.
You don't need to test it yourself, just read carefully in the descriptions. I googled the Mars 600 and you can see from the description that it only uses 100 Watts. https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1
"HIGH EFFICIENCY ENERGY SAVING PLANT LIGHT, Consuming only 100 Watts true output with 225 PCS LEDs, more scientifically and energy-efficient! Perfect for 2' x 2' veg stage, 1.5' x 1.5' bloom stage, higher intensity in a MARS HYDRO grow tent, reflective area, or by crossing over using multiple TS600"
Nice! It does seem like a good light and you are getting good results with it so it's good in my book.
The only thing that stands out to me is it's efficiency. That thing pulls 130 watt from the wall while comparing to 250-300 watt hps. At first glance it's like nice I'm getting more light than I'm pulling from the wall! Then you realize there are 100 dollar lights that pull 100 watts from wall while imitating a 600 watt or even 700 watt. When an led has low efficiency like yours, that stands out to me. Like I said it doesn't matter but when you have multiple it really starts to matter just my two cents I'll shutup now
Edit: light example https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_DNRnFbEE1RZQ5
I bought this (MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2 ft Sunlike Full Spectrum Led Grow Lamp Plants Growing Lights for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Coverage https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_K8DgFb0C1Y3A8) and like it. I bought a 1000 Watt equivalent at the same time, but I find I never use it because of the fan. The 600W equivalent that I recommend is silent, which is great, and the spectrum seems very close to normal sunlight.
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share very inexpensive and work great. I started outside then due to weather bought a tent with some necessities including a blurpple light. I won’t say it harmed my lady but it didn’t do any after two weeks. So I got a double dose of the mars lights and my my my she’s lookin purrty to me.
The first link you posted is insanely overpriced for what it is. The second link, while the fixture looks nice...I can guarantee it’s also a rip off. It doesn’t list any details of spectrum (it just claims full spectrum) and no actual wattage output. You might be able to sustain a tree for a few months if you left that light on almost 18 hours a day. But in reality the energy costs might not be worth it in the long run.
You are putting yourself behind the 8 ball in a way, as any true grow light that can actually grow a citrus (which requires 6-8 hours of sunlight...the strongest light nobody can recreate) is always going to be a bit “industrial” looking and not meant to hang in a catalog living room advertisement. If I were in your position, I’d suggest finding a different spot for your citrus where it’s more reasonable to purchase a better quality light within the budget of the couple links you’re posting (I’m guessing between $70-100?).
Otherwise if changing location isn’t an option, then I’d recommend putting a few higher quality grow spectrum bulbs in some lights you already own around your tree and seeing if you can sustain your tree over a few months. Most bulbs output around 50 watts, which is what I’m guessing most of the fixtures you posted would advertise. And it would be much cheaper.
Edit: just to kind of give you an idea...this older Mars Hydro is very highly reviewed as a wonderful entry-point into grow lights. Great price, output and color spectrum. Honestly in order to grow and sustain a healthy citrus tree indoors, you’ll need something in this direction. Amazon Link
If you have someone to send it you’re gonna want something like this. $80CAD (1100 Lira). If you have more money look up “spider farmer” lights. They’re around 2800 Lira.
Also the light you posted will 100% work but you’d need to figure out how to cool/exchange air in your grow area.
I wouldn’t go with an LED bulb. They’re very underpowered and I have personally never seen an actual successful grow using them.
- Growing in a 60x60x80 tent
- 3 lights are these 600-LED models
- sunlight in tent is 24/0, with the lights around 25" above the plants.
- temperature hovers around 24°C (75.2°F), humidity around 58%
- Medium is coco with perlite and worm castings in it
- Pots are fabric
- Watering is whenever the pots feel light. I pH my water to 6.0 with a BlueLab pen.
- Nutrients are General Hydroponics
- There are 2 fans blowing air around.
I am debating getting a larger light like a Mars Hydro TS3000 or a Spider Farmer SF2000, or maybe something smaller + an air intake. Scent isn't an issue. I just want to grow dank, fat plants. Thank you in advance for any advice.
- Growing in a 60x60x80 tent
- Plants are all Mephisto Genetics. AVT, Samsquanch OG (x2), Mephisto's Wedding, Pink Panama, CDLC, plus 4 experimental freebies that are all (FSxCDLC)xFS
- The 3 lights are these 600-LED models
- sunlight in tent is 24/0, with the lights around 25" above the plants.
- temperature hovers around 24°C (75.2°F), humidity around 58%
- Medium is coco with perlite and worm castings in it
- Pots are fabric
- Watering is whenever the pots feel light. I pH my water to 6.0 with a BlueLab pen.
- Nutrients are General Hydroponics
- There are 2 fans blowing air around.
I am debating getting a larger light like a Mars Hydro TS3000 or a Spider Farmer SF2000, or maybe something smaller + an air intake. Scent isn't an issue. I just want to grow dank, fat plants. Thank you in advance for any advice.
- Growing in a 60x60x80 tent
- 3 lights are these 600-LED models
- sunlight in tent is 24/0, with the lights around 25" above the plants.
- temperature hovers around 24°C (75.2°F), humidity around 58%
- Medium is coco with perlite and worm castings in it
- Pots are fabric
- Watering is sporadic. Probably every other day, every third day.
- Nutrients are General Hydroponics
- There are 2 fans blowing air around.
Amazing results with one man! Always recommend it for starters that are looking to cheaper side. Made some nice frost ounces of buds from this already.
full spectrum 730-740nm Red IR/3200-4200Knm/5200-6800Knm, spectra that makes most light in the 400-700nm "
I honestly cannot make heads or tails of what that means since it gives multiple numbers and they are not always comparable to the numbers you have stated.
This is the product: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07VL8FZS1/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_asin\_title\_o03\_s01?ie=UTF8&th=1
Well yes that would be smart since you are in England i would definitely suggest getting some supplemental lighting and even if its cactus and succulent soil if it is the miracle grow brand (it kinda looks like it is) its not going to be ideal i would suggest adding 50/50 perlite to miracle grow soil. With the soil like is now it probably wont die but it wont be doing the best it can I'm sure you could get some perlite as for as lighting i know amazon has a brand called mars hydro Limited-time deal: 2022 Upgraded MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage, New Diodes Layout Full Spectrum Grow Lamp for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4' https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_dl_24Y5D78DAKM9EF67WJBT?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 if you put them in a bright window and have this guy about two feet above the plants that should be enough light to prevent etiolation
At least something like this for one plant. I believe it's 75 actual watts. Really decent cheaper brand. If you get those light you showed us you won't be able to actually flower a plant! Don't waste your time! Seriously. If you do get have the cash now just wait and save up. Good luck.
2022 Upgraded MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage, New Diodes Layout Full Spectrum Grow Lamp for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4' https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_T2A9HM5F9E5RDM4MQFN4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
2022 Upgraded MARS HYDRO TS 600W... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
This is the one I have. A little pricey but totally worth it. I have two of them and I like them more than any of the other grow lights I have purchased. They are really powerful.
600w my bad
2022 Upgraded MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage, New Diodes Layout Full Spectrum Grow Lamp for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4' https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_0ZKWZS4356WAE3JYMGGP
Not very good, if you are on a budget, I would go with this one:
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp Plants Growing for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Footprint https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_9ZZX45548BSG6EM95WYD?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Or even $80. This one would work well:
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp Plants Growing for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Footprint https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_9ZZX45548BSG6EM95WYD?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I see a lot of posts with plants doing very well with that light. I’m sorry can’t help with those lights. I run a full spectrum light for my plants. It’s 100w actual I’ve measured it. I have lettuce, watermelon and various flowers growing under mine even a sugarcane. Here’s the light I use:
Maybe someone with experience with those lights will post.
mars hydro is a great budget friendly especially for beginners.
Nah, stay away from the cheap lights. Money trap for new cannabis growers. You can veg with some of them, but flower will be subpar.
Cheapest light I'd use is mh ts600 for 2x2ft area.
You can look up some panda film to line the walls and floor.
Simple, stable environment is (de)humidifier, some kind of basic air exchange like an inline fan, and heating/cooling like space heater, fans. Depends on your needs.
Mars Hydro TS 600
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp Plants Growing for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Footprint https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_M3TR914HQWH2AFJN1EMW
Looking good so far. But your definitely going to need a bit more light power as she gets older. You don't need a whole ton I'd recommend the mars hydro ts600. Don't get put off by it's advertised 600 watts it only consumes 100 watts off the wall which is about $8 dollars a month running it 18hrs a day. With a bit of training you can easily harvest 2-6oz so it'll definitely all pay it self off by the end of your first harvest. Depending on the state/area you live you can sometimes find the ts600 for about $50 on OfferUp
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_S3SRGDA1E3V4Q3SCA9BD
I pieced mine together through watching different YouTube videos and seeing what others were using.
I started with a non-specific tent ($89 I ordered a 3x3 and got 4x4 by mistake) and a random small clip fan to circulate air. I used some regular ol' dirt and perlite to get started in a fabric pot ($15). I germinated 1 seed ($8) and while that was starting, I then ordered the smallest MarsHydro light I could ($68 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_dl_VA55F3KTA0G5MQ9S3AJG?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1).
You don't immediately need the fan. I bought the AC Infinity cloudline T6 ($149 on Amazon) with the matching carbon filter ($69), and some ducting ($14).
You'll need a pH meter, but I had decent luck with just filtered water and green leaf mega crop for my nutes. I only did this because every time I pHed- I never had to adjust so I just stopped checking. Get a decent meter and calibration solutions.
I think I might have spent, all in - $500 bucks, and not all once.
An extra $30-40 on a light now, will net you twice as much weed and be quite a bit future proof. Cut corners elsewhere get a mars hydro ts1000. If you really can't swing it. Get the ts600. It's on sale now too.
Limited-time deal: MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp Plants Growing for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Footprint https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_dl_0CCYVNJ03H3ZHJV4Z3MK?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
How about this light upgrade?
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp Plants Growing for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Footprint https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_i_3GB7T94M6T997S72JRMN?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
If you go too cheap, you’ll have to replace it before the plant gets into flower. At least get a Mars TS600.
Pass on those lights and get a quantum board style. It'll cost you a few bucks more, but I'm telling you, it'll be worth it. Most important piece.
This light will bloom 1.5×1.5 ft, and cost less to run than the other lights.
Tent is kinda cheap, no big deal. Just make sure no pinholes, light leaks.
Get a decent pH pen!
I'd say try photoperiod first, germination screws a lot of first time auto grows. Photo can be fixed up before flower.
Good light, steady climate, healthy roots, good food and water.
They need more light. You can get one of these and it should do just fine. I ran two in a 24”x48” tent and they did fine.
I use one of these in 7b and keep my meyer lemon in the garage through the winter and outside over 50 Fahrenheit. I have probably 50-75 buds with several open flowers right now that I am hand pollenating with a q-tip. My tree is about 3 years old and I fertilize with Down To Earth citrus fertilizer
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1
Not sure about that. Id reccomend something like this
Mars hydro ts 600w 2x2 just one of these, it’s actually 100w. I’m sure your ufo will be plenty. If growing autos I normally force stress so they flower early and stay little. Photos you can bend and cut to make it small.
$72 on Amazon right now. I would go with this one:
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp Plants Growing for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Footprint https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_JG79C43SERN1J5ZTFEMP?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I get that you are on a budget but I would not expect much from any of those lights. They would probably do okay to sprout some seeds but, for a full grow IDK. If you can scrape up a little more💲I would suggest this one. Good luck!
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp Plants Growing for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Footprint https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_8BYN977P262KRJTPT8DP?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I would highly suggest a TS 600 Mars Hydro has stepped their game up, you’re getting the best bang for your buck and at this price point you can’t really complain.
Going to take a shot trying to help you. Looking at your profile it seems like all you've been using are blurple lights. Blurple are lights that produce a blueish purple spectrum and are basic LEDs. These will be decent for vegetation but you'll be incredibly disappointed when they create buds. If you are on a budget I would look at Mars Hydro, Something like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glc_fabc_R6VAMDTXTJ2W0RPNZRQ4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
For weed? I mean, you'll need a ton of those.
Look up MARS HYDRO TS 600W .
That'll produce decent flower in a 2x2 area and it's about $75. Or equivalent, doesn't have to be Mars hydro.
Those other ones are not really for fruiting, flowering, more like supplemental light.
These are pretty budget, but i have had good experience with them in my stealth boxes. I have three of them. They are fairly small too. You can add more as you go, if needed. Mars hydro ts 600 https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1 I dont use them anymore, since I upgraded to dual 600w hps and I dont need to be stealthy anymore.
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
This one? I have this as well, and seems to be ok, but buds don’t seem to be getting denser, and I feel like she’s growing slowly. I’m on week 5/6 of flowering and she looks about the same as a week or two ago. How high above the cola did you have the light?
Hey guys, these two pictures were taken about 5 days apart from each other. I recently had to bring her inside as temperatures are getting into the low 40s by me. I have this LED light shining on her 12 hours a day, then 12ish hours in darkness. I’m assuming I’m about week 4 of flowering, but she hasn’t “changed” in about a week. Any f Thoughts?
Here’s the light I have.
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Thank you. This is the light I have.
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp Plants Growing for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Footprint https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_0K1ADM51ENN08YMP5D7T
Doesn’t look like there are settings on it. Maybe just keep it further away then move it closer? Their website says 18 inches away during flowering.I don’t know what else I could really do.
Different herbs can have really different requirements, and how far away your plants will be from the light is really important in deciding how intense your light should be.
Sorry I don't have a definite answer. But for perspective, I have a 2x2 grow tent with one of these bad boys to grow basil, arugula and some succulents over the winter.
I don't know why they complicate this. This'll be just fine:
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>How big is your grow space btw?
yeah I was trying to figure that out earlier to pick out the lights i wanna go with but I lost my measuring tape. I can take a picture of the area I plan to use and put it up on imgur if that helps you.
Edit:
>mars hydro
dont chastise me for this link please im not trying to get banned... https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=sr_1_9?dchild=1&keywords=Mars+hydro&qid=1625699635&s=lawn-garden&sr=1-9
that?
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp Plants Growing for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Footprint https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_D426XCA6YGH8RKS3DYPF?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
In a 2x2 tent, anything over 100 watts (LED) will honestly be overkill. That’s enough for both veg and flower. The cheapest mainstream grow light I can think of would be a Mars Hydro TS-600.
There are other options, like cobbling together your own rig from less expensive components, but I think you’ll end up frustrated.
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp Plants Growing for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Footprint https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_WV9988BHADRMC9S02F6T
Is this the fixture you guys are referencing? MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp Plants Growing for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Footprint https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_MPP70BGJ96R6MRZJNTEC
First time grower here. I have a lot of variety going on (experimenting, having fun, etc). But I have many questions that I’m having trouble finding definitive answers too:
Leggy seedlings: the lettuce plants on the right...are those considered leggy?!
Thinning: when to snip? Some were planted closely to one another, others spaced.
Light height: too high? Not close enough? The manufacturer says 18-24 inches but I see a lot of opinions saying other wise. This is the model: MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp Plants Growing for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Footprint https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_PB689QHEM0QTRM0QNNW4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Any help is appreciated!
Cheap
Deal: MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp Plants Growing for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Footprint https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_dlT4_vC86FbXWMBBRP
Here you are, friend!
Deal: MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp Plants Growing for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Footprint https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_dlT4_RXM6FbP6WKBT7
Check prices on the aluminum tape used for HVAC work. It might be cheaper to line the box with that than mylar. If you're careful when you apply it, you can use a plastic squeegee and get it very smooth and shiny.
I think the biggest improvement you can make is a better light though. This one is what I have, and its cheaper than I paid for it.
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_alaZFb2CD43XG
This is what I have in a 24×24 grow tent. Spider farmer also has a similar light that has similar reviews. First grow with it and it runs way cooler than the cheaper lights i was running before. Your closet idea should work but air movement and ventilation are important things to think about.
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp Plants Growing for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Footprint https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2aBMFbYEN3MV4
I'd really rather defer to some one more experienced than I am on the subject. I'm just so new myself to growing anything that I don't want to lead you in the wrong direction.
I will say that typically, the lights that I see people using are significantly larger, like this. Mind you, that's 100 watts and only covers a 2ft x 2ft area. So, one of the questions you probably need to answer first is how much physical space are these plants going to take up.
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2 ft Sunlike Full Spectrum Led Grow Lamp Plants Growing Lights for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Coverage https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_IiCHFb62511AD
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2 ft Sunlike Full Spectrum Led Grow Lamp Plants Growing Lights for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Coverage https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_SSsGFbARJ8DAZ
No worries, lol, I dont know nearly enough about the specs in grow lights and am not one of those people on here that love to take every new piece of information personally. Plus, this is good for OP to know as well. 600W is just what the description of mine said when I purchased it so thats why I said it. This is the exact one I purchased. Looking again, it says "600W" everywhere except for 1 graphic with a comparison chart that says actual output is 100W. Thanks for the clarification :)
Depends on the size of your garage, but you could get a radiating oil heater and run that sucker when temps get below 55-60. You can get a cheap 100w led for under $100 and that should get you on your way with 1-2, 3 gallon pots and grow something. Also, go to a seed bank like seedsman and pick up a cheap pack of autoflowers for about $20-$30 with shipping. Good luck! https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=led+grow+light&qid=1601844818&sr=8-5
Those lights are inadequate. Get 2 TS600 LED panels, then get a masonry drill bit and drill some holes for hooks so that you can hang the lights in there. Trust me, this is coming from someone who tried cheaping out on lights (not saying you did) when I first started my succulent collection and they all etiolated to shit. Good use of the space though and good luck! These are the ones I got. lights
Yea you’re going to want at least 240 w to get any good budz. You’ll get something with current light but you won’t be happy. Spend 70.00 and get a MarsHydro 600w Here’s link MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2 ft Sunlike Full Spectrum Led Grow Lamp Plants Growing Lights for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Coverage https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fab_NunCFb2QD4E8F
Got four 1-2 year old trees. Heights are 1-2 ft with canopy diameter about 1-1.5ft. What kind of glow light should I buy? I have a north east facing window which I plan to keep the plants on. Should I keep them there and rotate them to distribute sunlight ? And the supplement with glow light on the other side? So 2x2 formation but bias the light on the 2 trees at the back? And will this light do for all four of them as supplemental light? I live in Zone 9b. https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=full+spectrum+grow+light+led&qid=1600659111&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzS045N0lNTEJTVE...
A lot of people just put their plant as close to a southern facing window (if you're in the north hemisphere) without grow lights. They can 'survive' winter months this way but they often go dormant and lose a bunch of leaves and bounce back next spring. If you want to avoid this, you probably want some lights, and you'll need to go pretty heavy to have any effect: https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ This one seems to be pretty good and I almost bought it once, it might even be able to support a full citrus tree year-round indoors. I recommend a timer, you'll need 8 hours a day. You could even get the bigger 1000-watt one if you were so inclined.
I did check out grow lights and was surprised to see the more professional types have come down in price considerably e.g. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/?coliid=I3CEZ9EUW5XLHN&colid=17BYE9AKZATLF&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
How far are you holding your light away from the seedlings?
https://www.amazon.com.au/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1/
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I ended up going with this light from Mars Hydro . I looked around YouTube for people using this light and most seem to get really good colas. Thanks again for all the info. It really helped make my choice.
Its hard for me too freely browse the US amazon, considering america's size im not surprised though. I saw this earlier and figured its a baseline if anything https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?keywords=spider+farmer&qid=1581014994&sr=8-12
This light would be perfect for a 2x2, it’s basically a quantum brd, it’s made by a reputable name & it’s actually cheap (it’s on sale right now). I just bought one and I am very happy.
Skip out on that light, your plants are going to end up super larfy. I would recommend the new discount quantum boards from Mars Hydro (TS 600W), they're 100 W and probably put out about 5-6x as much PAR as that light. At close to $100, they're a steal
https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1/
I would guess your yields with that light would end up as maybe 10-20 g, whereas with a decent QB-style light you'll get close to a 3-5 oz.
Your choices of lights will be largely one of choosing among name brand and Chinese generics and getting both the configuration and power required for your situation. The rough rule for LED grow lights is about 32 watts per growing square foot at about 18 inches. This is true LED consumption, not an equivalent wattage to other types of lights. That's important, because many seller will highlight attractive wattage, but it will be an equivalent, not true.
Two general truths. Power in LED grow lights cost about the same for a given wattage, no matter who sells them. (Components available, if you want to DIY. for a modest savings.) High grade commercial products will obviously be more costly. To gain a feel for cost, survey the products from Mars Hydro. I'm not saying buy them, although they are widely used. But they generally make the actual wattage easy to find, and they represent fairly reliable products.
There are some other decisions. A light mounted low in order to use lower power lights may have to me moved up as a plant grows. A more powerful ight mounted high will not have to be moved. (See inverse square law of light to see why.) But with lettuce, spinach, etc. you can probably do okay without moving lights. By the time they begin to grow to the lights, you will be harvesting them.
So, if you have a shelf with 1' x 4' of closely set plants, you car lighting about 4 square feet. You will require about 125 to 150 watts true LED consumption, likely in a bar configuration. If the plants are on the floor groups in a 2x2 space, you may want a more square array of LEDs. You will have lots of options.
A small lesson:
See this mars unit: https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1/
First, no, it's not 600 watts. Read on down, and you will see that its consumption is 100 watts. Mounted about a foot over you lettuce, it would no doubt do the job for a small area.
A little heavier and a different configuration:
https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Fixtures/dp/B07PLZLKVM/
300 watts true and good for about eight square feet.
You can pay a bit less with other brands, but if something looks very cheap for what it pretends to be, it's probably not what it pretends to be. You're not going to get anything that works for $40.
You will nave no real options on heat. Power is power, and what is consumed has to be dissipated, These are not massive lights, but you could have some heat buildup in a closet. Consider another location or a fan-vented growing tent. Or maybe just leaving the closet door open will do it.
Lighting is always the greatest expense. The good news is, they are very long lived devices, so over time, the cost isn't so bad.
You have some slack. Lettuce isn't too picky about anything.
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
The light you'll be the happiest with for under $100 is this one
Maybe one of these?
They're all pretty similar 600W equivalent LEDs. I personally own a few of the Bloomspect (although mine are the SL1000) and they've held up great and have given me great results.
Or would something like this be better?
The primary shifty practice is for a seller to trumpet 250 Watts!, but not tell you that that is merely an equivalent value, the stated "250 watt" product being actually 50 watts LED consumption. Many listings don't reveal this in any way. In some, you have to hunt through the whole listing to find the rated electrical consumption.
It's good to orient yourself by studying the offerings of a reputable maker. Mars Hydro is one, but even they can't resist the urge. Here's an example.
https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1/
Model TS 600W. Hmmm, must be 600 watts. No, but in the description it is early and clearly stated that it's 100 watts true LED consumption. In the home consumer LED grow light market, that's like them baring their soul to make it that easy.
Look at this one. It's Vivosun, a Chinese generic that's generally reliable.
https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Samsung-Dimmable-Sunlike-Spectrum/dp/B08772CTK7/
See if you can find the true wattage. Sure. There it is. That's what you look for. When you study listings, you will come to see about what LED lighting costs for different consumption. When you see one that's not forthcoming, you can usually recognize by the price how much smoke they're blowing. Because a lot of stuff all comes from the same Chinese factories, you can often find the identical light under another name that does list the wattage consumption.
And you can always come back here to ask.
There is a very rough rule of thump about LED lighting. I use 32 watts true LED consumption per square foot growing area when the light it mounted at about 18 inches. That's not intended to be precise, but it gets you into the ballpark so you're not woefully low.
There are many possible trade-offs in lighting. For instance, lower intensity lights can be mounted closer to the plants for the same effect. But you have to move them up as the plants grow. And moving them up widens their footprint, which may waste a lot of light off the edges. Powerful lights, mounted higher, don't have to be moved as much, often not at all, but cost more. Lights powerful enough to provide good light at two feet can usually stay where they are. But you want to attend to their beam angle, the angle that defines where most of their light falls, so that you get all the benefit. A physically small light, mounted not very high, sheds distinctly less light at the edges and corners of a larger growing area than in the center. A light with a 45-degree beam angle, mounted one foot above a 2-foot square area will cast most of its light within that area. At two feet high, most of the light will be outside the growing area.
With some study, you can reasonably match light powers and designs to the physical growing space. Generally, growing on shelves calls for bar lighting. Generally, growing in a square or short rectangle can use square or rectangular lights. But a square array of bars can light a square grow, and a line of square lights can light a shelf.
I began with a fairly typical steel shelving unit with three shelves, each two by five feet. Each shelf had a row of 12" buckets down the middle, the bucket edges touching. (non-growing area within the growing area is waster light.) Total growing area for each shelf, four square feet. I had two Illumitex (commercial maker) LED bars rated 75 watts each, on the underside of the shelf above, about two feet between shelves. 150 watts, very ample according to the rough rule. Proved to be just fine. That's the sort of way you have to think about lighting problems.
It will probably seem the most costly part of your setup, but that's an illusion. LED's last at least 50,000 hours, so the life is measured in years, and the cost over time is modest. Don't hunt for fantastic grow light bargains. There aren't any. If it sounds too good to be true.....
You can sometimes save quite a bit by using things intended for other uses. Hydro isn't different from any other field. Specialty goods cost more. My ebb and flow trays at mortar mixing trays from Lowes. My DWC tanks are Sterlite totes from Walmart. My rafts for DWC are 1" thick blue styrofoam insulation sheet. 2" and 3" hole saws make perfect holes in lids and foams for net cups. Five gallon black plastic buckets are cheap. Purpose built Dutch buckets are costly, and the adaptation they are made for isn't even necessary.
Trust that one of these will be more than enough light for that space.
Ah, okay. I was thinking like the ones you put in your kitchen (I actually just replaced mine in my kitchen which is what made me think of that). So even with two of those it's only 40w, which isn't a lot. You're probably okay for a while with those with seedlings, but once they get bigger I think they'll quickly outgrow those. My HD website only had 6 and 12 packs of those and they seem to come out to about $20/bulb. For not a whole lot more you can get a much stronger light off Amazon/etc. That's my two cents.
Edit: I have a couple of the bigger version of this and they're great lights. This appears to be on sale at the moment for $80. I'd go with something similar if you're not doing a ton of plants.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1?pd_rd_i=B07VL8FZS1&pd_rd_w=LMxRX&pf_rd_p=51cf0d17-50cf-4c89-b1a7-606703cfac11&pd_rd_wg=elwNZ&pf_rd_r=ZCDV4P3Q9SMX8KSJQ5KP&pd_rd_r=44b0b908-4b25-4927-ac04-b80eff719e28
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_l4s-FbP1WJM5Z?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This light will be sufficient
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07NKT2VRD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_S4s-FbQJ9DFX2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This is the one I have for similar space, little overkill but nice to know everything's getting lit properly
>2x Mars hydro ts600
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is this the type your talking about? if not could you link me to one? appreciate you forsure
That light is garbage, I got suckered into buying that cause I was on a budget and I ended up throwing it out, I couldn't sell it knowing some poor bastard would end up with some lanky ass dying plants like I did. Save up a couple more bucks and get something like a 300 watt led UFO they go for less then 150 on Amazon. Here's a Mars hydro 600w for 120 https://www.amazon.ca/MARS-HYDRO-Reflector-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1
600 watts in a meter cubed is going to get pretty hot so you may want to go with less wattage.
Here's a 600w that's dimmable for 95 dollars. https://www.amazon.ca/Phlizon-Dimmable-Spectrum-Waterproof-Hydroponic/dp/B083TM8JBL
Lol came here looking for this too. Amazon has a "sale" on it rn for $80 (down from $300, allegedly).
Is this thing worth it or is it comparable to any old viparspectra or blurple you'd get off Amazon? Is the "real watts"/power draw the only thing I should be focusing on? Quite a rip off for 100w @ $300, no? Do quantum boards follow these same "rules?"
Here are a few that are better choices:
Mars Hydro TS600, $62.99, Note: not dimmable
VIPARSPECTRA P600, $69.99 (currently out of stock, though), dimmable
VIPARSPECTRA P1000, $79.99, dimmable
- Growing in a 60x60x80 tent
- 4 lights. 3 are these 600-LED models 1 of them is this blurple I got at the start
- sunlight in tent is 24/0, with the lights around 30" above the plants.
- temperature hovers around 24°C (75.2°F), humidity around 58%
- Medium is coco with perlite and worm castings in it
- Pots are fabric, elevated with airflow underneath
- Watering is sporadic. Probably every other day, every third day.
- Nutrients I've been using sparingly. I purchased this autoflower nutrient mix and have been using it every now and then. I'm afraid of nutrient burn.
- Today I got some organic phytoplankton fertilizer and some silica from General Hydroponics, but they have only been fed today with that.
- I have this pack from General Hydroponics coming this week. I was dumb and didn't realize that coco coir literally has no nutrients in it, so I believe my plants may be hungry.
- There are 2 fans blowing air around.
- I do not own a pH reader, yet
There is another plant that is displaying similar behaviour. My others do not, and are all getting the same stuff, which is why it's a bit confusing. I'm loving this journey though. Growing is so much fun. Thank you in advance for your advice/comments.
They work pretty good and they are affordable. They are on sale right now on Amazon too, 15% off! No affiliation other then happy customer.
- Growing in a 60x60x80 tent
- 4 lights. 3 are these 600-LED models 1 of them is [this blurple I got at the start]
- sunlight in tent is 24/0.
- temperature hovers around 24°C (75.2°F), humidity around 58%
- Medium is coco with perlite and worm castings in it
- Watering is sporadic
- Nutrients I've been using sparingly. I purchased this autoflower nutrient mix and have been using it every now and then. I'm afraid of nutrient burn.
- There are 2 fans blowing air around.
- Age ranges from a few weeks to over a month.
- I topped the big one about 5 days ago.
- It's starting to get stanky, but that's okay. I like it.
They're all Mephisto plants. I honestly didn't think they'd grow and then they literally all did.
Do I need a humidifier? I've seen a lot of channels on youtube use them + a hanging fan.
Should I do any LST?
If you had to pick a few, from what you can see, which ones are the best?
Thank you in advance for your help. These plants are the best part of my day - they bring me an inordinate amount of joy - and I want to do a good job.
Something like the one linked to below. Its their cheapest light but if you added it to your current setup it would help fatten those buds up a lot.
Forgive the ALL CAPS, but I have to emphasize certain points, it's for your own good 😊
The general rule for LED is 30-35 ACTUAL watts per sqft MINIMUM. 3000K -4000K color spectrum
Caveat. ACTUAL watts are listed as output watts, NOT ADVERTISED WATTS.
so the lights in your screenshot have actual watt ranges of 5-20 (I use a few of those to keep geraniums alive indoors)
Eg if the item listing says "100 watts" or "100 watt equivalent" read further to find actual output watts in the specifications because the advertising figures are wrong or based on conjecture.
If your going cheap I can suggest Amazon lights from szhlux, tmlapy, and Mars hydro due to personal experience (check my profile grow) but seriously this is not where you should go cheap, the brands I mentioned are good but you are better off with timber, California light works, or rapid LED.
This one ROCKs one or two plants with solid nugs and has fruited my dwarf indoor lemon tree mid winter at 100 watts
https://rapidled.com/collections/horticulture-fixtures/products/single-75w-plug-and-play-led-grow-light.
This one at 150 watts is reliable and relatively cheap with good output.
2022 Upgraded MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage, New Diodes Layout Full Spectrum Grow Lamp for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4' https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_FJNRD7RS5660A1HWCFXF?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
A cheaper 190 watt option like this will get you the same results but with three plants and also will drive the heat up in your tent and require a bit more ventilation.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XXT1QKF/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_PP1ZMVNSM8GEDSAK6ZV0
These I have had in my veg tent for a year 24/7 with no issues and are your cheapest option.
SZHLUX Grow Light 4ft 140W (2×70W, 800W Equivalent) Super Bright Full Spectrum Sunlight Plant Light, LED Grow Light Strips, Grow Light Bulbs for Indoor Plants - 2 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08JLJ3D6Y/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_JABM46B0D7FN06FC81CA
So don't skimp on lights medium, power strips, and especially genetics.
It is just at the top, the light is 12-16 inches away from the top of the plant, it's this light: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VL8FZS1/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_search\_asin\_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I’ve had the original bunny ear cactus for 9 months, and it started next to the window. It’s been sick for the past 5 months. 5 months ago it started turning white when it started getting really cold at night. That month, I cut off the sick parts and repotted them in individual pots. I also moved them inside and started using a plant light. The original cactus is in its original soil mix while the other repotted cacti are in Black Gold Natural & Organic Succulent & Cactus Potting Mix. I water the all the cacti with distilled water and I used MiracleGro Succulent Plant food for the first time last month. Cacti get watered every 2.5-3 weeks, depending on how droopy the big cactus gets. They get full artificial light 12 hours a day, set from sunrise to sunset. Light sits a little over a foot away from the top of the big cactus. It’s consistently 74-upper 80s/low 90 degrees around my cacti. I’ve tried to read up on everything I can, but I’m so lost. Poor thing created a mouth to tell me I suck at keeping cacti alive
Plant light: Mars Hydro 600W led grow light
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Soil: Black Gold Natural & Organic Succulent & Cactus Potting Mix
https://www.sungro.com/retail-product/black-gold-cactus-mix-0-07-0-0-0-0/
I’ve had the original bunny ear cactus for 9 months, and it started next to the window. It’s been sick for 5 months. 5 months ago it started turning white when it started getting really cold at night. That month, I cut off the sick parts and repotted them in individual pots. I also moved them inside and started using a plant light. The original cactus is in its original soil mix while the other repotted cacti are in Black Gold Natural & Organic Succulent & Cactus Potting Mix. I water the all the cacti with distilled water and I used MiracleGro Succulent Plant food for the first time last month. Cacti get watered every 2.5-3 weeks, depending on how droopy the big cactus gets. They get full artificial light 12 hours a day, set from sunrise to sunset. Light sits a little over a foot away from the top of the big cactus. It’s consistently 74-upper 80s/low 90 degrees around my cacti. I’ve tried to read up on everything I can, but I feel so lost and I think I’m killing my poor buds 😞
Plant light: Mars Hydro 600W led grow light
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Soil: Black Gold Natural & Organic Succulent & Cactus Potting Mix
https://www.sungro.com/retail-product/black-gold-cactus-mix-0-07-0-0-0-0/
I have a had few different kinds over the years.
I always recommend to my friends to start with either a T5 tube light setup or a full spectrum 100w LED equivalent like a Mars hydro ts600,/ spider farmer sf300 / sylstar gl1000 as a bare minimum.
These lights might be a bit unsightly depending on where the plant is and they would need hanging on the ceiling or something but they would be more than enough to grow, flourish and even fruit your orange tree indoors.
If you're trying to pop one auto, all you need is like a $70 light that'll flower a 2x2 area. TS 600. Not dimmable btw. Quantum board style LED.
I use the mylar film for my veg area, which is not sealed up for light leaks. For autos, I personally don't allow light leaks, but your call.
It looks like it comes with coco as the medium which has no nutrients in it. Then it comes with nutrients that you add in.
I'd pass on those 2, especially the second one.
Mars hydro and spider farmer both have ~100w for under $80, but they are not dimmable. But they are excellent grow lights.
Then viparspectra has one that is dimmable, but doesn't use Samsungs lm301b/h diodes. TBH, ya there's a difference, but it's not going to be that big of a deal..
I am a rookie as well, but I have one of thse Mars Hydro lights and it has been working great. From most forums I've read they are the best bang for your buck.
I am currently using a Mars Hydro TS 600W grow light: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1?ref=nb_sb_ss_w_as-ypp-rep_ypp_rep_k0_1_5&amp&crid=26MKJUDRUPEBA&amp&sprefix=mars+ . When I was home I had my trees in a south-facing window but my apartment at school is on the 6th floor and facing inside the courtyard so no direct sunlight would hit my trees. Both of my trees, especially the Fukien have responded really well. Normally I wouldn't spend that kind of money on a light but my sister bought me the Fukien as my first tree and I was (and still am) really watching over it to try and keep it alive as long as possible because I heard they can be a pain. As for my lighting schedule, I typically turn the light on as soon as I wake up which is around 8am during the weekdays and it stays on until I go to bed which is around 11pm-12am. Just a fair warning though, this light is bright as shit lol, luckily I'm in class or hanging out in my living room with my roommates most of the day so it doesn't bother me but I couldn't imagine being next to it all day.
Oh yeah I'm seeing your light on top of the picture now. Your missing Infared on those lights, which pros have found is much more important than you'd think. The ones your using are great for small plants, I used one last crop to get a little more light underneath the canopy. But for a whole plant your gonna need something with a bit more kick. You don't have to break the bank either. Everybody has preferred types of lighting, and they each bring something different to the table. I myself am a big fan of LED. The technology has come such a long way that you can get some very decent lamps for little cash. I've got 2 tents year round, and a third on my balcony during the warm months, all LED, and the one nice brand name expensive lamp I have doesn't perform any better than the tents with the cheaper ones.
Check out VIPARSPECTRA, or my favorite which is BESTVA. Mars hydro makes some decent stuff too, but it is a little more cash. You could easily get by with a single plant using the small 600w model of any one of those brands. The thing about these cheap LEDs is they aren't great for a huge crop, but if your going with just one plant they will be more than enough. Just do NOT trust the descriptions! They mislead! For instance if it says it can do a 4x4 footprint then you should be expecting it to be perfect for a 2x2 tent, and capable of lighting a 3x3 (though not perfectly). Its just my opinion, but I myself am a very skeptical person about brand name stuff. There is so often a similar knockoff that can do just as well. Here's 3 suggestions from those brands I mentioned. I've used all 3 myself, but every season I like to upgrade if I can. For a first timer though, they are more than capable. To keep things simple, you need at least a 600w full spectrum model lamp. If your willing to go around $100 you can even up that to a nice 1000w, and another $50 will get you to 1500w which is the lowest I go personally.
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light 2x2ft Coverage Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp Plants Growing for Hydroponic Indoor Seeding Veg and Bloom Greenhouse Growing Light Fixtures Four for 4x4 Footprint https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_KBJZ0EBWPCYXHVX1KES1
LED Grow Light, VIPARSPECTRA P600 LED Grow Light with Samsung LEDs (Includes IR) 2x2ft Coverage, Full Spectrum Dimmable Plant Grow Lights for Indoor Plants Veg Flower Four for 4x4ft 300pcs LEDs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088KK88NH/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_32N67HZE59XP94THRZJ0
BESTVA DC Series 1200W LED Grow Light 2.2x2.2ft Coverage Upgraded SMD Diodes Aluminum Reflector Full Spectrum Grow Lamps for Greenhouse Hydroponic Higher PPF Indoor Plants Growing Lights https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J2VMHJY/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_PT0ARY7ZFZ0HGNC81EPX
Amazon has a great return policy man. Seriously this light sucks, get this same price and soo much better.
Not sure what the true wattage is but this is my light!
Here you go. Let me know if there’s any other questions, or if you want additional pictures
Lighting Source/Power (Wattage):
MARS HYDRO TS 600W LED Grow Light... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Grow Area Size:
Maybe 5x4 feet?
Canopy Temperature: Ranges from 60s-70s
Canopy Humidity: Mid 60s-High 70s
Growing Medium:
Nutrient(s) Used: None (ordered Dr Earth Bud and Bloom Booster)
Feed pH: ???
Feed ppm: ???
Strain(s): Random seed
How often/much do you water? I water when leaves start to get droopy or soil feels dry 1 inch down.
Air Flow: In a garage with a oscillating fan 4 feet away.
Pot Size/Type:
Approx 5 gallon terracotta pot.
If you’re looking for cheap I’d go with either a Mars Hydro ts600 or a Viparspectra P600 Both around $60-80!
I wonder why he avoids the subject of nutrient. But there are many to choose from. Probably the two most popular are the General Hydroponics Flora series, of which you can use Floragro for leafy things, Fox Farm Grow Big, and Masterblend. The first two are liquid basic major nutrients. For more demanding plants, you would want to add other parts of the series.
Masterblend is a dry nutrient set that is most often sold with Calcium Nitrate and Magnesium Sulfate. That set makes a complete nutrient set for any plants. It is cheaper, but you do have to dissolve it for use. All are available on Amazon.
There are many lights that could be hung in a window space and would provide plenty of light. Just one example:
https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1/
A little more than a foot square. !00 true LED watts. Mars Hydro is one of the more reputable sellers. That's about the money you will have to spend. Cheap enough for a device that will last more than seven years in 18 hour a day service.
Not sure what your budget is, but if you want to actually see results, you can get a good light for like $70.
Better yet, get two.
well Right now I"m growing in my closet, in the past used crappy purple lights, but for this grow, I've got 4 seedlings started under this light:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VL8FZS1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
at about 30inches away
Oh you're right its 140 on Amazon, i was looking at the 600 watt 2x2 here
A little extra info: MARS HYDRO TS 600 LED Grow Light placed 1ft above the plant.
Grow medium: All Treat Potting Soil.
Seed popped April 20, sprouted out of soil April 22.
I run a Mars Hydro TS 600 in a 2x2. Great coverage and no heat. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Something like this depends on size and height https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=mars+hydro&qid=1617748692&sprefix=mars&sr=8-4#
Or 3 of these Is a lil cheaper.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glc_fabc_N7V8W0CR0S7TYB5J53N8
I use these. They're some of the best compared to hid lights that are super hot and eat energy. Get one that covers your grow area. GL https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_M0AQSFWSXXH34SDRRFX7
Honestly I would consider $20-30 more and get Mars Hydro they’re pretty reputable and have worked excellently for me.
Up the price to and get a mars hydro or spider farmer
You get better results and better use of wattage. And invest in a grow tent.
Thanks for sharing OP.
Can someone explain to me what I would be missing if I opted to use a combo LED light and tent, instead of the Farm 12 XL?
Mars Hydro 600W - $90
48 x 48 x 80 Mylar Grow Tent - $126
Obviously the other little inexpensive stuff like a water pump and the base with spots for pods and things, but is there anything unique I might be missing that makes this a must buy?
well damn, nice find
i just got a mars ts600 for $83 to use in my 2x2 veg tent
i'm considering returning it now
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This is a great light for a little under 100 and it can get you from seed to harvest in a 2x2 area https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_eio-Fb3S6SS96?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
The lack of windows in your garage is not as big a deal as you might think. When the plants go dormant, and the temperatures are in the 35-45 F range, they can get by without any light. Take a look at this video. Liguus keeps his plants in a cold, unlit garage in Chicago without any problems.
Nepenthes and tropical/subtropical sundews should do well together, as long as the sundews don't need to be sopping-wet.
CalCarn Guide on Building a Carnivorous Plant Bog Garden
Grow Carnivorous Plants in a DIY Mini-Bog
Yes, a 50/50 mix of peat moss and perlite/coarse sand is good for the North American plants.
You want a bright, full-spectrum, LED lighting system. There are a bunch of them on Amazon; search for "full spectrum led grow light". MARS HYDRO has some nice panels (here and here. If you want individual bulbs, then SANSI has some nice ones.
The List of Links post in r/VenusFlytraps has many good vendors.
Thanks for the tip! I think to be safe imma go with the Mars hydro ts600 for nearly the same price ild be silly not too. Also I have these two super cheapos I'm thinking I can put on either side...🤷♀️
I have two of these that I love and they were fairly cheap https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_aWOVFbB6RZAG9
For my seedlings I use these with heating pads https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082X1T96T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_lXOVFb95GG1DH?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
MarsHydro have some really great, affordable lights.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VL8FZS1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
They get a bit hot but if you point a small fan at it then it keeps it cool enough.
The No. 1 thing you can do is get a real light.
https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1
https://imgur.com/gallery/l6bCxDx
Just switched to this light about a month ago
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_dovwFb9B5J94A
She's in perpetual veg
Thank you, I switched to a mars hydro ts 600w a month or so ago. The old light was a heat Monster. This one's way cooler. You think that's too much light for a 2x2x4 tent? Here's the link https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07VL8FZS1?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I bought new light home it works for long time. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_aQNvFb9YW02TF
One of these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_eNamFbQ4JP2F3
And one on these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H72RD3K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_WNamFbWVXADBC
Amd yes we have multiple fans
I’m currently saving up for this grow light and planted some bag seed just for fun because I’m too excited. It’s growing in some organic soil mix from lowe’s, and getting distilled water. I’ve started putting it outside during the day and under a fluorescent desk lamp at night, but it was under the lamp a lot when it was smaller which is probably why it’s so tall? I did have the plant sitting on a box so the leaves were up close to the light but removed it for a picture. Any advice is more than welcome but I will probably just put this one outside and use the advice on the next round 😎👍
Ahhh ok cool,
https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1
This one?
Will this fit in my 40x40 tent?
I’ve been sitting here for like 2 months contemplating buying this: MARS HYDRO TS 600W https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_6VojFbDAGCHQE
Talking about this? - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Gc4gFbP0JG0SJ It says 600W.
Using those to give them a head start will be great, but they need more of a full spectrum to be able to grow to their potential. You can get a low watt mars hydroled with the samsung leds for $80 on amazon that would be able to sustain them for years or a viparspectra.
Here are links to the ones I really like. Both are around $80, wait until cyber Monday and they usuallyhave a great sale on these.
Mars hydro
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_wMhGFbMBA8772
Viparspectra
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083JVXHF6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_rOhGFbG176MVY
I got 2 of the next step up of Mars hydro last year for i think 85 each on cyber Monday.
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I don't know what your shitty $80 light is but this is $67 on Amazon: You can get two for slight above your max budget. I use one for veg and it's fine. https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia-wc-drs1_0?crid=1IAIM855KO2QD&cv_ct_cx=mars+hydro+600&dchild=1&keywords=mars+hydro+600&pd_rd_i=B07VL8FZS1&pd_rd_r=0143b8f9-1037-48cc-a100-c3e0fa43751d&pd_rd_w=UEk12&pd_rd_wg=3vYcY&pf_rd_p=99c7ce93-69a7-402a-ba4e-be326f866b88&pf_rd_r=NFW5T1DX7NB564A0ZHWF&psc=1&qid=1601414283&sprefix=marshydro%2Caps%2C168&sr=1-1-f6b8d51f-2c55-4dc3-89ad-0c3639671b2d
This is $107 but I don't know where you are so shipping will cost you a bit: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/240W-QB288-KingBrite-samsung-LM301B-QB_62029392581.html
It's more than double the wattage.
Edit: If you want UV and IR for flower then you can go with this at $119, but then again, not sure how much shipping will be fore you. Could be an extra $50: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Pre-assemabled-Kingbrite-lm301B-uv-ir_62185692344.html?spm=a2700.icbuShop.41413.10.3f9c431dZ4Jzcq
I ordered the same brand, smaller size, for 90 bucks on Amazon , off original 300 dollars.
Can you buy three of those instead and connect them?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_jmSKEbWRAH2NS
This is your best amazon bet for 2x2 of veg, https://www.amazon.ca/MARS-HYDRO-Reflector-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=mars+hydro&qid=1581510992&sr=8-6
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Here is probably the ideal light for vegging in a small space. https://www.horticulturelightinggroup.ca/collections/all/products/hlg-100-v2-3000-k-spectrum?variant=16043867865131
I just looked up the light and it’s on sale at Amazon for $79.99
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