I think that the Mars 600 everyone was talking about was Mars I 600, whereas that product line seems discontinued officially, so that leaves Mars II options only.
see: Mars 600 amazon
Does that mean that mine is only veg? And I should send the light back? Because the amazon listing stated it does both..
This is the one I bought. mars hydro 600
States it’s full spectrum..
I was thinking 4ft would be too big inside as well, so cloning definitely seems like the way to go. I was thinking of using this light since it seems to have good reviews and isn't super expensive. https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic-Growing/dp/B00XC3LBIW?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=x
Well, I use a high powered sodium light for my indoor system, and it works really well for my IBC Tote. I am sure it would work for you. The total cost was about $250.00, but I am sure you can get it cheaper on amazon. You need a ballast, a hood, and a light, of course.
If you don't want one like that, and you might not, as it cost about 30 a month to run on a 12/12 switch, then you might want to look at one like this: https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars600-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic/dp/B00XC3LBIW/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1490716610&sr=8-10&keywords=led+hydroponics+lights
I have also heard good things about this one.
Thanks for the info, I'm not sure on the version, https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars600-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic/dp/B00XC3LBIW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486758106&sr=8-1&keywords=mars+hydro+600w whatever that one is?
I thought aiming for around 50 watts per sq ft was best to aim for. Have you any idea how much difference there could be to the plants in the two different spaces (~71W per sq ft in the 2x2 to ~31W in the 3x3)?
Thanks for the suggestion. It looks like the mars 600 is a little cheaper than 2 mars 300s. Any reason I should buy one over the other? https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars600-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic/dp/B00XC3LBIW/ref=sr_1_2?srs=10776211011&ie=UTF8&qid=1482214894&sr=8-2
Indeed you can keep auto flowering plants small, but you can actually do that with any plant. Look up sea of green or screen of green methods to run small plants effectively. But can't stress this enough, I don't recommend autos, and if you're beginning with clones it's doubtful anyone has auto clones. Autos by nature are tough to clone, as the clones almost immediately begin to flower and don't have time to grow out as they would if they had been from seeds.
The tent method is great for beginners, but will run a bit more than $100. In total you would need a tent, LED light, inline fan, pots, soil, nutes, bamboo stalks, garden twine, PH testing kit, carbon filter, hanging clips, trimmers, drying rack, mason jars, and 62% boveda packs. If you search craigslist you can probably find a bunch of people selling their used gear. With a 2 x 4 tent you could yield 8 ounces or more, although it's more likely that you'll harvest 3-4 ounces your first go. A 4 x 4 tent would allow you lots of room and twice the yield.
Also in regards to LED's, be mindful of how many square feet you're trying to cover. I've got a few different LED's in my gardens, as well as MH/HPS lights. Many of the LED's claim to be full spectrum, and while that may be true, they vary quite a bit in terms of what they mean by that. I've got ones that are blueish white, blue, purple, more red, and one that has a switch from veg to flower. Out of all of them I really like my Mars Hydro , although I will say it does run very blue. Despite the dominantly blue spectrum, it's produced buds comparable to a 600w HPS, but with significantly more frost.
What? No. Maybe like 3 of them, tops. If you're trying to replace a 1kW then go with a pair of these
DIY are superior, as you can get the exact nm frequencies you like, but if you aren't handy with electronics you can run the risk of fire or simply blowing money on a dud product. You can get 600w leds for 150 now on amazon, and they work really well.
https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars600-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B00XC3LBIW
Good luck, and keep the sub updated!
Honestly for fruiting 100w is very low. At minimum I'd say the 600w (278true watt) Mars Hydro for 179. I love mine.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XC3LBIW/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_ynQVwbZK4VQEF
You can also pick up a 300 - 600 Watt HID but that would require alot more cooling... I'd shoot for led but apollo horticulture is a brand I've had good luck with.
Sure it will grow with less light nut the vertical stretch will be huge and they won't be strong enough to support themselves.
Edit: Also look for dwarf options for all your plants... It will make space a little better but as mentioned what you are wanting to grow will take up a bit of space especially in Hydro.
I was looking at: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XC3LBIW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=AKPEMWWZ95494
the 600w model for the size of tent ill be using. The reviews are very sketchy though, most of the users that give it 5 stars have only reviewed a few marshydro products and rated them all 5 stars.
its a marketing ploy really, they say its to increase the longevity of the light boards themselves but who knows. https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Updated-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic/dp/B00XC3LBIW
if this is the same light or similar then you can read on the page that it actually only pulls 132 watts +- 10%
" ENERGY-SAVING: Consuming only 132watt±10% with the same effect of typical 150W hps or HID grow lights. "
its a common mistake you shouldn't really worry about it, just know that most people recommend anywhere from 30-50 watts of actual true wattage per sqft of tent, and in your case you only have about just a little over 15.
Again only saying mars hydro 600w gives it a bit of leniency but the best 600w blurple led ive seen maxes out at like 180 watts which could work but you would probably see a massive improvement if you added some more light in there.
If your light isnt a blurple then i could be totally off.
I just want people to get their money's worth.
278w Mars Hydro: 166$, $0.59 per watt.
If 30% efficient: 83.4 PARw, $1.99 per PARw
400w Timber Vero 29: $579, $1.44 per watt.
If 50% efficient: 200 PARw. $2.9 per PARw
400w DIY 1212 Gen 6: 400$, $1 per watt
If 50% efficient: 200 PARw, $2 per PARw.
Not even mentioning electricity savings or the 20 year+ lifespan.
Thanks! Im going to get some today. The light im using is a Marshydro 600W LED (275W true output). I got it for $140 from the Marshydro store on ebay!
http://www.ebay.com/usr/marshydro?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2754
I really like the light because I feel it has good penetration, it does not produce a lot of heat, and it is easy of my electric bill haha. I have not experienced a single problem with it!