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The problem isn't thermal paste, it's that people don't regularly maintain their devices and/or don't place their consoles somewhere with proper ventilation. My PS4 is 4 years old and runs dead silent because after one year (once it was out of warranty), I routinely (every 4-6 months) open my PS4 and dust out the inside with my electric duster ([link]). I blast the fan, power supply, all the vents, and loosen any hardened dust with a soft paintbrush.
My PS4 runs quiet no matter what I'm playing. Same applies for my PS3, which is going to be 9 years old this year and still runs cool.
This is what I bought now discontinued.
As I said the best way would be to subscribe to coupon sites like slickdeals and wait for a retailer sitewide coupon.
Way late to the party here but in case anyone else stumbles across this thread, I'd forget the canned air and do a one time purchase of one of these instead. It will last for years and is quite simply much better than canned air anyway. It's obviously pricier up front but if you're frequently cleaning things out (which all of us on this sub likely are) anyway, it will pay for itself and then some over time : [link]
Dåser med luft er nemt men ikke ligefrem billigt. Jeg kender ikke andre metoder udover måske sådan en dims her:
Jeg tror f.eks. ikke en almindelig kompressor er sikker nok (luften skal være ren, hvis der er små partikler i kan man vel lave skade på sin pc).
I wasn't thinking fans. I was thinking an electric air compressor akin to this:
It's electric, but it's not a fan. It's a (weak, but good enough for something like this) compressor. The advantage is you can have it live somewhere other than on the arm, and just route the air via a tube that follows the same path as the vacuum tube you use for the suction cup and the electronic ribbons.
I think it would work with or without the weight sensing. Just have it blast in lieu of the shimmy. I just thought I noticed it didn't shimmy all the time so I thought you were sensing weight already.
Any fellow IT guys in here that want to get rid of cans of duster, this thing is amaaaaaaazing. Been using it for years, and it's so nice. Basically it's a motor from a good vacuum like a Kirby, but reversed from suck to blow.
Dust isn't even usually that bad anyways. It's blown way out of proportion. Once you own one of these electric blowers you'll never buy another can of compressed air or turn on an air compressor. There are also cheaper options.
Dust problem will cause a string of internal problems, such as power failures, loss of data and short circuit. Cleaning server becomes increasingly important. Electric Blower Duster ([link]) is plenty powerful enough to clean servers. Compressors tend to have moisture (minor point) and the additional pressure makes it easier to accidentally damage something if your not careful. This doesn't store air, it has an intake in the bottom through a filter, so no moisture. On top of it all, its much more portable than a compressor.
The UV filter is your "test bed" and your protection for your actual front lens elements. If you have the uv on or off you should feel free to clean it using the methods you take from this thread as the smart way to clean your glass. There is no singular right way.
My method is never exposing the front element and just buying sigma UV filters and slapping them on immediately. Then cleaning is Zeiss wipes, and deep cleaning is a list that includes this Data Vac .
Read the advice & don't over do it.
I used to dislike the idea of wall mounted PCs for dust reasons... but yeah, the more I think of it, it'd be super easy to just hit it with air every couple of weeks (or less, if you're a real stickler for it). You could even invest in something like this to save yourself money in the long run.
The only thing that would hold me back from doing this myself would be noise.
Just gonna throw a tip in here: don't use any old air compressor to dust your build off. These compressors can retain moisture which you would then unknowingly be spraying into your machine. If you want to go this route use something like this.
You need a Datavac electric duster. I use my Datavac before and after every record I play (I have 2 cats). It is pretty much a mini leaf blower.
It is very powerful, be careful. Great for dusting out computers as well.
I stopped buying cans of compressed air and went for this: [link]
It'll pay for itself overtime. Just make sure you hold the fan either with a finger, pen etc so it doesn't spin like crazy when you're blowing it.
I normally bring my heavy full tower pc from 2nd floor to my garage and clean it using this duster. It's so good, I can even use it to blow dirt out of my garage like a leaf blower :D
Gotta plug the DataVac! Canned air be damned! Can find one online for like 50$. Powerful, doesn't slow or get cold and pays for itself in no time.
More than 5 years with ours and we use it for everything like blowing out air filters for shop vacs, drying my grinder....list goes on and on.
Get an air duster like this one or one of the many others available. I keep one in my office since it's faster than lugging a PC to the maintenance shop to use the air compressor. It's about as loud as a vacuum cleaner, so probably not something you want to use indoors in an office setting.
Just get one of these. Yes it much more expensive than a can of air. I have one of these because I don't use filter in my Caselabs case and it works wonders.
Vacuums are a big no because they do cause static. An electric leaf blower is safe as long as it hasn't been used for anything else, even better to have a filter on the intake to keep random debris from making its way through. If you don't want to use either(leaf blower or canned air) you can buy one of these but it's basically the same thing as the leaf blower but with a filter for debris.
It's all up to you to do your own research and at the end of the day it's your pc. And I'm open to anyone else that can chime in on the subject. I'm just speaking from personal experience here :)
In addition, the problem with air compressors is that they also condense the water in the air they intake. So even if you were to let it run for a bit to let out the visible water, you'd still have a high amount of humidity in the air afterwards.
I really want to get this electric blower: [link]
It's more expensive than buying a few cans but it seems like it'll last many years and will cheaper in the long run. It should also be a lot more powerful and effective than just using cans.
As has been suggested, you'll only want to use air. If you haven't ever dusted before, you'll see dust everywhere (unless you have your cooling just right.) If you have an air compressor, you can use that. Canned compressed air is fine too. There are also anti-static vacuum blowers which function (and sound like) little electric leaf blowers but don't create as much static electricity.
If dust is really stuck to a heatsink, either for your CPU or the video card, then you can take it off and wash it in the sink.
If you want to invest in never having to buy that overpriced canned air again, I'd suggest buying a Metro DataVac. It's quite nice to have for blowing the dust out of PCs and anything else.
If everything is plugged in to the correct location/orientation and seated properly, yes and possibly anything else that was vacuumed or connected to the motherboard at the time.
Take it to a computer repair tech and ask if they will bench test your motherboard, CPU, GPU, RAM.
Next time you want to clean out your compy, I'd highly recommend one of these badboys and leave everything assembled and clean with it off.
Sorry about your computer m8.
Get one of these, turn off your laptop, and blow the air through the vents to blow out the air and spin up the fans. Do this at the very least every 6 months. Canned air isn't powerful enough.
Use ublock origin on your browser of choice, that will prevent viruses more than any antivirus will (and any antivirus will do as long as you keep it up to date, though Norton and McAfee are shit tier).
If you usually just leave the laptop plugged in, disconnect the battery or you will reduce it's lifespan and battery life.
Every two years, have a tech reapply new thermal paste/pads for your CPU/GPU. Otherwise your computer will overheat causing slowness or unexpected shutdowns.
I use a datavac similar to this from amazon. It's a blower, not a vacuum. Works pretty well, and I don't have to keep buying compressed air cans.
Save yourself some money. [link]
This will pay for itself really fast. It offers more power, has a dust filter on the bottom, and it has some attachments. Great product.
a leaf blower on medium throttle will work as long as you stick something in the fans to stop them from spinning (blowers usually go far beyond the RPMs that most fans are designed for and that can lead to toasted bearings)
for those more cautious there is the datavac though it's somewhat expensive for not offering noticeable improvements over that bog standard blower you've got in your shed
I have this and it works wonders. Just remember to hold the fan blades in place when you blow on them (you don't want them to spin while being cleaned).
Metro ED500 DataVac 500-Watt 120 volt 0.75-HP Electric Blower Duster [link]
I use a blow up bed pump, you can get purpose made ones like this as well.
I'd think a hairdryer on a cool setting would be fine but better safe than sorry. Don't use an air compressor as they're probably too strong and often shoot out condensation.
gotcha, people on reddit recommended this saying it was better value than compressed air, would there still be much of a risk using this? [link] i thought they'd have known it would cause damage, as everyone was recommending it no one said it could cause any damage (on the submission I read it from)
Bought something like this years ago and it is the best to clean out dust in my PC (and blow leaves off my balcony).
I've been researching the same thing the past two weeks, somebody tried talking me into a compressor but I was on the fence. I think I've landed on the MetroVac, is cheap(ish) and handheld and I watched some videos and it looks like it does a pretty decent job.
I have one of these things. It's pricey but way better than canned air and more convenient than an air compressor.
Consider getting a DataVac instead of using Dust Off.
It works wonders an it'll save you money in the long run.
I also swear by the Data Vac. It's actually a blower but you'll never have to buy canned "air" again. It's awesome. To clean, your console, just place a clean dry straw down the vent to keep the fan from spinning then dust away until your hearts content.
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I use this DataVac duster for freaking everything. I blow the dust off my keyboard and desk and shelves, I dry components with it after ultrasonic cleaning them, I blow the dust out of electronics and pinball machines I'm taking apart (outside!). It's awesome.
if you need to use a leaf blower every 6 months due to dust build up.... you seriously need to get some better case fan dust filters. XD
i live in the desert with 2 dogs and a cat, all shedding monsters. and after 6 months, there was barely any noticeable amount of dust in my case. the filters had a lot on it, but inside the case only had a very light layer.
i do use a vacuum like once a week or so through out the house, so that may contribute to cleanliness of case by limiting dust from the surroundings.
i just use [link] its far cheaper.
I use this myself.
My only guess would people tend to shy away from them as they can blow a lot harder / not have the remove condensation feature / a lot harder to just point at and say get a can of air both cost and spec wise.
Best thing I have bought recently right here. better than the stupid hurricane air canister. I mean this thing is 3/4 hp in a small package it moves air!
As a computer tech and stoner, this makes me weep all around. Try getting one of these guys, take 'em outside monthly to blow out. You don't want to breathe that shit in.
Oh well. Time to smoke again.
You're right, they can be. What happens is the little particles of dust that get pulled in can create a static charge, if that's discharged it could in theory damage your components. In practice I wouldn't worry about it too much. If you're keen on getting a blower/vacuum look for an antistatic version like this one [link]
They are more expensive but offer some protection.
If you're going to be cleaning once a month you shouldn't be building up a ton of dust. A can of air duster should get you through a few months cleaning. That's what I use.
If you notice dust around the side panels or around the openings here or there take a look at your fan configuration. this is a result of negative pressure in your case, you're exhausting more air than you're pulling in. This can be eliminated pretty much entirely by maintaining positive air pressure, adding an additional intake fan will usually get you there. If you have a more limited case a fan controller can be used to slow down your exhaust fans or speed up your intakes until you get the desired effect.
Filter your intakes. Search for magnetic fan filters. With any luck you should be able to just slap them on the outside of the intake fans, and still be able to get the case panels back on. This cuts out a huge amount of dust and take a few seconds to clean.
If your case needs to be on or near the floor vacuum regularly. At least a couple times a week. Keeping the environment dust free is the best first step to keeping your pc clean.
If you take the time once a month to give your machine a quick dusting with a can of duster it's gonna stay very clean and it won't be more than a 10 minute job for the life of your pc.
Get one of these guys and forget about canned air forever. You don't need to replace your Thermal Paste so quickly. Even not great stuff easily lasts 2-3 years, and the good stuff is rated for like 5+.
Canned air is such a piece of shit that's expensive once you get to experience the handheld tornado.
Just make sure you tape the fans down so the blades don't spin while you blow into the case.
Just an FYI: I got one of these DataVacs while yes its a lot (I got it for Christmas so that's a plus) But with removable filters I just take them out every few weeks and give them a blast before I do my usual vacuuming of my room and it saves a ton of time, and makes doing a full cleaning so much easier. I blast my desk every once in a while, and it is great for keyboards as well. In reality if you buy canned air, this thing will pay off in a year anyways. It has tons of uses for general cleaning, plus inflates air mattresses in like half the time of a regular pump.
Maintenance wise I have a Metro DataVac for dusting my computer and peripherals. Safest way by far and For the price and not having to buy compressed air cans anymore it is definitely worth every penny.
I always suggest this guy. Easy to use, powerful and won't run out of steam. Sadly it's also expensive and very loud but it's much better than compressed air.
My favorite tool is this electric air blaster. It cleans my PC along with my keyboard pretty well!
I bought one of these myself, it paid for itself quickly instead of buying compressed air and I can turn it upside down unlike canned air!
Otherwise I blow out all our computers usually every month.
Ok thanks! I'm aware I have to be cautious with the blowing, I'm buying a Metro ED500 to blow out the dust (read this somewhere in an article about proper pc maintenance). I might use a can of compressed air too but those seem quite harsh pressured for tiny parts...
When it's dirty.
I have this and it's wonderful.
Canned air works too, but you can use the electric duster to do other things too. I use mine to blow hair off of my sink after I'm done shaving with an electric razor.
Look, I know we're all die hard against dust, but think of the environment AND your wallet at the same time and pickup one of these:
Just make sure the PC is OFF and UNPLUGGED when you use this thing for best results.
well compressed air cans are cheaper, but run out. An electric duster costs more upfront but will last you years. So it all depends on how often you are dusting stuff off with it.
I bought one of these a little while back because I got tired of dealing with canned air. If you have the spare cash just trust me, this thing is awesome.
I use this because it already has a way to block moisture just so you know the biggest problem using a regular compressor is condensation in the tank. There are filters to stop this.
Small amounts of Water and oil are the problems with compressors. Better off to use a blower like the data vac
Keep it elevated, on top of a desk is the best. Make sure your rooms are vacuumed, and keep open bottles of water (or other liquids) out of the same room. Invest in one of these, they're awesome.
I've moved my PC twice, and have had it for 3+ years, and don't suffer from massive dust problems.
Just got one from Amazon (product link) last week. Thing blows like twenty of those dust off cans at one time.
It's a little pricey but canned air is expensive and now I can dust off as much as I want. Easily will make up the savings within months.
Consider something like this instead. It seems expensive, but canned air can't even begin to compare - this thing will clean dust out of places you didn't know existed.
I've worked in the IT Infrastructure field for over 15 years. To clean my personal electronics i use THIS
Wow, pc masterrace? Nah, master race buys a DataVac AND actually uses it.
You are fucking disgusting. Shame!
Have you cleaned inside of the actual nozzle? The main problem seems to be buildup inside the channel for a lot of people. I had this exact same problem and what I used was a duster ([link]) and it seemed to fix the issue
Canned air is so yesterday. You should get into the big leagues. I got this thing:
From Amazon. It is called a 'vacuum', but it is really a blower. It is like constant canned air on steroids. It is about twice or three times as powerful as canned air, it never runs out and it never gets too cold. Plus, just air, no poison. With this sucker, you could blow away your food, get rid of the plate and clean off your whole desk. Then blow dry your hair.
A bit pricey, but holy crap it was worth it.
See if one of the local shops (PCBrokers or CompuXParts) will let you use their compressors to clean it out. PCBrokers use to do it free of charge the last time I was there - but that was over 10 years ago.
Even bigger: Metro Vacuum ED500 DataVac 500-Watt 0.75-HP Electric Duster 120 volt [link]
Can use it to blast particles out of barrels, clean computers and blow leaves away in autumn.
Buying a Metrovac was one of the best things I've ever done for my home gear:
It's on sale for 56$! Never need to buy canned air again! WEeeeeeeeee
Water should do the trick.
Seriously, though - consider something like this lovely product. Don't need to get one that expensive, but they're basically small reverse vacuums (they use vacuum motors, even) that have glorious output. Bought one a year ago for $30 and haven't looked back, and it should be available anywhere, even where compressed air isn't.
This may not fit your budget, but it is definitely worth the investment. I've never had to spend another dime on compressed air and it is much, much more powerful and effective.
This post makes me fear for my 7950 now, I can't really afford to replace the guy, I've had mine for almost 3.5 years now.
Question: did yours idle around 57-60^o C?
(Case temp: 35^o C, CPU Idle: 45-55^o C)
I'm planning on getting a bunch of extra case fans and one of those reverse vacuums so I can clean out the heatsink a bit.
I highly recommend something like this:
Metro Vacuum ED500 DataVac 500-Watt 0.75-HP Electric Duster 120 volt [link]
Can blow out those keys and fans without taking anything apart.
I can also recommend a solution of half rubbing alcohol and half distilled water for cleaning the outside, wrist rests, and screen.
I picked up one of these specifically for dusting my PC, but it's pretty good for blowing off my small patio as well. The only bad part is having to unhook the computer and carry it outside. It's a high tower, so very big and heavy. [link]
Everyone suggests compressed air, but I personally hate it.
Get one of these and it will last you a life time as well as get areas and angles that compressed air could never get.
Obviously you shouldn't actually do this to dust out your computer, it could potentially damage components, especially from over-spinning fans.
If you don't want to spend money on canned air, buy one of these.
I use this:
I've been using it for year now, it's a bit expensive but nothing else really compares. I remove keycaps bi-monthly, plug this thing and and boom everything is gone, and any hard to remove stuff I use tweezers, for any stains a Q-tip + lubricant.
The best advice however, is clean regularly with an air-blowing device of some kind, wether you use the cheaper hand held ones, or caned air or what I linked, keeping up with maintenance is the best way to go. Also avoid eating at your keyboard, always clean your hand before using your keyboard and keep some microfiber towels around to clean your hands/caps before and after heavy usage
Saw what you said earlier about hair, the only way to fully get rid of them is to remove keycaps. Cleaning with caps on is a waste of time, get a keycap puller and do it the right way.
At my old job we had to clean out the PC's when we were upgrading them to W7. (just for maintenance) Since the computers were in the warehouse they would get alot of dirt in them.
We had one of these to clean them out: [link]
It works wonders.
I am hesitant on using air compressors due to the water that could come out. I stick to can air or the this DataVac. But yes, thx for expanding on what said. It use to be the first suggest for upgrade (after you bought your computer) was memory, now I always suggest getting an ssd first.
This works much better.
This is what I use. Works much better than compressed air cans and costs less over time. Get one next time you need to clean out!
Edit: just saw all the other recommendations for the datavac. Ignore me!
Speaking of cleaning...I'm so thankful I bought that DataVac on Amazon. It's probably the best tool for the job now. [link]
You can take it apart or purchase a business grade electric compression duster.
We use the following at the shop, and while it loud and more expensive that compressed air, it's very effective.
I would get one of these, solely for computer cleaning in the future.
Electric Duster, way cheaper than buy can after can of compressed air. Plus is more environment friendly and it is POWERFUL. Way more powerful than compressed air.
I would just blow it off as best as you can, try to boot it up and see if you have any issues. Let us know how it goes.
Oh, and as Toshi said, as long as you have the protection it could be covered and you might be able to build a new PC.
If you use those compressed air cans a lot you should think about getting one of these. It doesn't freeze up after 30 seconds, is more effective, and no cans to recycle. High up front cost, but it pays itself off over time.
Air compressor can damage parts if you aren't careful.
Honestly I'd recommend this tool. It's amazing for cleaning out computers.
You can use an air compressor in a pinch but take care not to put the nozzle too close to components.
Oh! I just posted what I have right before I got to your comment.
This blower has been a huge lifesaver for me. It says it's a vacuum, but it only blows. I unplug my tower and take it outside on a step-stool...thing. Basically so the tower is level with me and on a sturdy surface that isn't the ground. I put cut piece of straw in each of my fans, make sure I've discharged any static and turn that sucker on! It's so satisfying to get all the cat fur and dust out, I love that thing!
Never this one but I do own the DataVac which is a popular pc duster and I really like it. It's loud but really powerful. Never used it on a car though.
I bought this a while back and it is awesome. Really works so much better than canned air and I feel it is worth it.
Grab one of these.
> It's expensive
It is, but you're also never paying for compressed air again, and it works a thousand times better than compressed air.
Get one of these, ED500 DataVac, it is an amazing handheld blower that will never require you to purchase a can of air again. May seem expensive at first, but the 100+ computers it has cleaned in that time would have cost a lot more in canned air. I bought mine in August 2012, and it still works like the day I got it, pretty sure it came off of the BIFL sub.
I use that thing once a month or so and blast out my case. It is vastly superior to canned air, you can be liberal with the basically infinite air supply and not have to worry about how you're holding the can and accidentially blasting your mobo with some cryo juice.
Edit: Make sure you either zip tie your fans or hold them in place while using this blower, you could damage your fans with how fast it can spool the fan blades up.
I would not...
Invest in something like this. You will save more money in the long run by not having to buy canned air.
Got that one when I didn't want to use compressed air anymore. Works way better than any Canned air ever could. Let's me clean out all my computers at once. As long as you do not mind the ringing in your ears.
I had that problem. If you can, clean the sensor. sometimes hair or dust can cause the mouse to misread the laser. I wish they would make these things easier to clean.
q-tip (take some cotton off, make it fluffy)
vacuum cleaner or one of these
I'd stay away from canned-air due to residue.
Sure, I mean... it's inevitable, especially with my cats. But I do keep a can of air on hand at all times, and it looks like this.
Wow...an "office" without a DataVac? Real pro shit right there.
I use one of these to clean out all my computer parts. It has paid for itself over the years vs. expensive compressed air cans.
About 3+ years now and still going strong. Some folks worry that since these use ambient air, there's a greater chance for ruining your parts but I've not had any such problem. YMMV.
I recommended a Data-VAC, best purchase I have ever made when it comes to cleaning electronics. Don't let the name fool you this a a 3/4 HP blower (~ 500 watts).
Mine is the metro Data Vac and it works like a can of compressed air.
Before I was using a different type of vacuum. It did work though. I had no problems cleaning my computer and keyboard. So you should be good to go!
That closed case theory is for a well designed ventilation. Idk if you've ever opened a dell but usually the CPU cooler sucks in air from the case and then directs it over the cpu cooler and out the back using a plastic thing. If that gets clogged the case will have practically no ventilation so everything heats up way too much.
Opening the case here would probably help, but it's not a good long term plan. This is only $60 and is practically a never ending can of air duster. I've used one and it was awesome. It's a great long term plan for anyone with a computer.
I think someone else might have mentioned this before but The DataVAC works wonders. Got one a few weeks ago and it works way better than compressed air cans. Just a fair warning, the body does get hot after prolonged use but not enough to be a serious problem for me.
For those that are interested, this is an electric air duster. Works pretty well and comes with a bunch of little nozzles for getting those nooks and crannies.
If you can, I'd recommend picking up this computer vacuum. I got it for christmas and it kicks ass, the only downsides are that it is as loud as a normal vacuum and can get a little hot now and then.
Never have to buy cans of (expensive) air again.
I was wondering more on the lines of if the washer pump had to be removed in order to reach the coolant pump and holy cow, I had to pay a lot more than $50 to get mine replaced. I'll see look around and try to see what's wrong with it tomorrow. Do you have any recommendations on how to push air through the hose? I have this: [link], but I'm not sure if it'll be strong enough.
Never buying a can of compressed air again.
Don't suck. Blow.
Picked up a Datavac for myself and it's working good so far: [link]
Something like this: Datavac ED500
> Is it possible to get cans without this shit?
Is normal air acceptable?
Get this. Screw compressed air. This is the best lol takes everything out.
You're doing it wrong.
This is what you needed (and what I use).
If you want to get it back on for a little while so you can get your game saves onto a USB stick or something, you can reflow it by baking it in an oven, which (if done properly) should keep it kicking for at least another week. You don't really have anything to lose right now but the reflow process is delicate and you could end up with an even further bricked PS3 or lost data.
But yeah, at this point, it's too late–let this be a lesson for the future that you should do preventative maintenance. Every couple of years you should pop your PS3 open (no matter the model) and blast all the dust out with compressed air or a Datavac. It's also a good idea to replace Sony's cheap thermal grease with Arctic MX4, which boosts system cooling and can help prevent overheating.
I use to use canned air but i got tired having to always buy it so I got this thing.
This unit is pretty handy - https://www.amazon.com/Metro-ED500-DataVac-500-Watt-Electric/dp/B001J4ZOAW/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=electronic+cleaner+blower&qid=1555618281&s=gateway&sr=8-5
A bit pricey but pays for itself if you do a lot of cleaning, etc.
I would personally get something like this instead:
Good suggestion. I have been using one of those since 2011 [link]
for the price of ten or fewer cans of air you get something that basically lasts forever and does a much better job. one of my best investments in a house full of computers.
A vacuum cleaner for your pc
Try buying one of these.
I got it a few years ago to clean out my PC and it works amazing. Much better than buying cans.
Not for computers. The condensation is a killer. Something like this is more ideal: [link]
the computer repair i work at uses this, its awesome, it has never broken anything in the 6 years i have been there, and there have been thousands of computers that have come through
Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over my Data-Vac
I've got this: [link]
Be careful where you plug it in. 500W lol.
You're best off with a wire key cap puller like this, but can get along with one of those plastic ring ones if that's all you have on hand. When pulling the caps you want to slowly rock the puller side to side while keeping constant upwards pressure applied. This is especially important with stabilized keys. The keys will come off eventually, you do not want to try to brute force them off pulling straight up. That is how you end up with broken stems, popped out stabilizers, etc., nothing you want to deal with when you're just trying to remove key caps.
There is no wrong place to start or order you need to remove your caps, but I like to start on the top row & work my way down. Also I will lay my caps out on a table or something in the same order I remove them, so putting them back is easy.
As far as cleaning goes, I use a Metro Datavac to blow my boards down & out every so often. It works very well to keep dust & debris from building up on/in a KB even without removing the caps. I'll also use a big makeup brush to clean in between the switches when I do have my caps off. If the caps & plate are a real mess, I'll soak the caps in warm water with denture cleaner & use Q-tips soaked in isopropyl alcohol to clean the plate in between the switches.
IME, blowing your boards off every couple days with something like the datavac or cans of compressed air will keep your boards pretty dust & debris free. Making the need for deep cleanings like you're about to do very few & far between.
Or if you really want to invest, an electric dust blower like this.
It was similar to this:
However if you're not in Canada Amazon has them as well:
If you can afford to drop a lot of money at once, consider getting a DataVac or an XPOWER air duster. Otherwise, stick with the canned stuff.
Buy an electronic air compressor like this. More expensive but you can use it however many times you want.
Eco friendly [link]
Oh it's this not compressed air
Metro also sells a nice blower
This is another alternative.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't some compressed air generators (like you might have in your garage) create an oil dispersion in the air stream? In my mind this would have greater potential to alter the taste vs the chemicals in canned air (which I would think would disperse quickly). Is there any evidence that the chemicals bond with the metal surfaces of the grinder and mix with the coffee, or is that anecdotal? That said, I have been using canned air to clean my Lido, but I think I'll switch to a manual or electric blower just for peace of mind!
I'm pretty partial to this little beauty.
Oh yeah sorry. I meant Real Dollars. Not Kiwi Dollars. If thats the case, maybe an electric air blower would be an even better value.
Or if you want to take things outside and blow dust everywhere, these are great fun!
> eduster from Amazon
Pretty sure he means this.
Something like this rocks if you blow out computers often enough: [link]
More powerful that a canned air duster too.
I own this Vacuum, it was cheaper when it wasn't sold by a third party seller. Probably around $50-$60. It's basically an air blower that will blow all the dirt and junk out of your PC, it really blows lots of air and it will sound like an actual vacuum cleaner. It rocks.
You could use something like this and it would be fine.
There is that data-vac thing on amazon that is basically a small air compressor and is anti-static, may save money in the long run if you use lots of canned air.
Or if you live somewhere dusty you can do what I did and get one of these bad boys [link]
buy this: [link]. it's electric, so it's reusable.
I've bought this duster [link] a couple years ago and use it regularly.
Definitely a lot cheaper than buying cans every so often.
For anyone interested, using a datavac or something similar is much more cost efficient in the medium to long run. We use them at work and I have one for home too.
Assuming you are still using the stock fans, I recommend replacing the front and rear fans with these. Also, on top of attempting to improve cable management, I also recommend using this to clean your computer (among other things) with great efficiency.
Dislaimer: I have no association with the above companies whatsoever.
You are most likely overheating. A couple ways to remedy this are using utilities such as MSI Afterburner or Sapphire TRIXX to monitor temperatures and ramp up the fan speed. Since it is the reference cooler, that means it will be fairly loud as you reach the fan speeds needed to cool it off enough to prevent crashing.
A few more ways to reduce temperatures are cleaning your computer of dust using something like the DataVac ED 500, and getting cooler air into the room, whether that's opening a window temporarily, or using a box fan to blow cooler air from the other area of the house.
One last thing would be driver-related issues, which can be remedied by wiping them clean and downloading the latest ones from the AMD website. Because the instructions are for advanced users, just follow them to the T and you will be fine.
In my experience, this nifty little tool is a great substitute for compressed air cans:
Never buy canned air again.
I have this and cleaning my PC has never been easier.
Or you could use a duster.
I absolutely try my best to do it once per month. If you don't let it get bad, it's not difficult to clean.
In reality, probably 4-5 times per year.
This thing helps
I just got one of these. Changed my life.
it depends on how much dust are talking about. cans are ok. but datvac is the best investment you can make
Just started in a Help Desk job myself. So much dust, bought myself one of these:
Get a data vac
Dude get the Metro Datavac and never look back. It is a total boss and a completely renewable power source that doesn't destroy the earth. No risk of freezing either .
Haha yep...I'm so bad about using canned air on my quad after dirtying it up.
Been thinking about getting one of these as I'd imagine it would pay for itself so quick.
you also have other options besides what /u/shogunreaper mentioned like this
I have this duster and its awesome
No this is the best
Having one of these will save your life.
I thought these were pretty well known in computer enthusiast forums..
So the DataVac is a blower that works better than any can of air ever could. And from professional use, I've found the Staples brand screen cleaner leaves little to no streaks. I use it on laptops that have been out at construction sites and it gets everything off the case, screen and keyboard.
With the Coolermaster Elite 130 case you don't have to worry as much about graphics card size as it does have quite a bit of space that will fit a majority of graphics card sizes.
The only thing you really have to worry about with Mini-ITX cases is airflow and heat dissipation.
The main advantage of a Mini-ITX case is that is can literally fit anywhere you need it to be without much issue. It will also be very easy to move and take to a friends house if you want to show off how much better your PC is than his console.
If you really want to "show off" your PC to your friends / family, than a Mini-ITX computer is not going to be very impressive.
Honestly, the most upgrading that you are going to be doing in the next 4 years is most likely going to be a graphics card, and that would be as easy as taking out the old, and plugging in the new and then updating your graphics drivers for the new card.
Now if you really want to take pride in your computer every day, go with the latest build that I posted, as it has a case with a window, so you will be able to see all of your components and it will also allow you to see the dust accumulation without actually opening the enclosure and know when to clean the computer regularly.
I would suggest investing in a MetroVAC electric duster whenever you need to buy "compressed air" to clean your computer.
You would be surprised how expensive compressed air becomes when you need to clean your components and ensure that no dust sticks around for very long which could impede the cooling efficiency of the entire computer.
If you want you could just purchase all of the components now except for the graphics card. You will be able to do some light gaming with the i5-6500 onboard graphics and also save up some more money while you wait for the graphics card to come out.
You will want to invest in an aftermarket CPU cooler at some point like a Hyper 212 EVO. The stock CPU cooling fan that comes with Intel processors is quite lackluster, very loud and will be one of the first components to go bad in your build and need replacing.
You want this: [link]
You will never regret this purchase.
DON'T USE A WRENCH! Use a DataVac!
Gotta have this
Yeah save yourself from buying multiple cans of air an invest in this DataVac
I know many people use air cans but having something like this air blaster or a small air compressor is a god send. I use it to clean dust from my PC.
Get one of these, blow the shit out of everything.
Or compressed air cans.
Also what do you mean you can't "open up" your PC because of warranty stickers? It's a prebuilt?
Time for pops to get a DataVac
I blow canned air onto both sides. That helps about 80% of it and a q-tip for the rest. It does take time like you said. The best alternative is using this (good investment): [link]
She's going to need something a bit more powerful than compressed air cans....
Don't waste your money on those cans of compressed air. Get this.
DataVac: A tornado in your hand.
Best $60 I've spent.
We use these in our shop. Work perfect for cleaning out PC components and saved tons vs compressed air cans.
These work very well.
I used one of these [link]
I recommend buying this. Much stronger than any can and it's awesome Metro Vacuum ED500 DataVac 500-Watt 0.75-HP Electric Duster 120 volt [link]
I bought this:
PSA: get a cheap air compressor and stop wasting money on weak ass canisters.
Edit: My suggestion
Quite a bit more upfront, but if you plan on dusting an a very regular basis, you should consider an electric duster.
Everyone here using cans can ascend.
I use a Metro DataVac which doubles as a de-duster for my computer, a leaf blower, and a lint-removal tool for my clothes.
Don't waste money on canned air
For the future
Don't carry cans of compressed air, carry a DataVac blower: [link]
I use one of these [link]
It is positively glorious for cleaning out PCs.
Canned air is for peasants.
Invest in one of these and use it regularly.
My PS4 was as loud as a fart in church. I just blasted it with this and everything is smoooooooth now!
like a mini leaf blower, an electric duster
Except I need one that works with 230 Volt, 50Hz input.
No, I mean like this.
I'd prefer the solution I only have to buy once.
Yep! I got this one and it's amazing! Paid for itself already.
Every month i use this: [link]
It's a very good electric duster
use this and prosper
who needs compressed nitrogen when you have an electric duster
I always suggest this guy.
they fit into all the holes in your computer
they fit between the heatsink and the heatsink fan
they fit in all the corners
or you can use this and be done really quick
Don't buy compressed air cans. Use this instead: [link]
I've had one of these for years and used it to blow off dust from 6 computers with no issues what so ever.
Something like this is what I was talking about.
[link] This will last you for years, and saves you from driving out to the store every time you need more compressed air.
Consider getting a Datavac ED500 so you're not literally blowing your money away every time you buy a new can of air. Though if loud noises are a concern, stick with the cans.
Imgur review here.
Ehh, it isn't worth it from all the reviews I've seen, and for the price, you can just grab a metro vac. [link]
Get a Datavac man. One of the best investments I've ever made.
I use this bad boy
No No just buy this beast:
Get a Datavac [link]
$60 on Amazon, used for electronics mostly.
[link] - Lots of great review on that, I've been contemplating getting one myself.
You need this. [link]
you have so much dust you need something like this [link]
I've used a computer blower and it's worked well for dead skin.
I know there's better ways, but it's what I had on hand anyways and it worked well.
These dusters are really powerful and great for electronics.
You can get a can of compressed air and clean it with that.
EDIT: Or you buy this: [link]
I can't reccomend the DataVac enough. Note, it's not actually a vaccuum, it's a very high pressure air blower that cleans out your case in minutes.
Save up for one of these: [link]
Don't waste money on canned air.
Screw cans of compressed air, though
Honest question: I've seen these recommended many times.
Wouldn't these still generate similar amounts of static electricity?
If you want something to clean you can clean out your PC with and be used for other types of cleaning as well then I'd recommend the Metro Vacuum ED500. It's doesn't really 'suck' air so it's not really a 'vacuum' but more of an air blower. I have one and it rocks! :)
Never have to buy another can of air again, and it's there whenever I need it.
forget about about canned air [link]
Best investment ever!
Try this product:
I cart it outside periodically and blow the dust out. I got tired of buying cans of compressed air and bought one of these a few years ago.
The recommended way is to use a DataVac, but if you don't have one, then just a can of compressed air should do just fine.
[link] works marvelously for me
Or a Metro Vac
This will save you a ton of money.
I have this baby. Best purchase I've made.
Say no to disposable duster!
This is the one I've seen the most. Works pretty well, can get hot after a couple minutes but other than that no complaints about it.
Bro ya'll need to upgrade:
Best 60 bucks I spent when it comes to this kinda stuff.
I use this http://www.amazon.com/Metro-Vacuum-ED500-500-Watt-Electric/dp/B001J4ZOAW/
I wouldn't say that there's nothing to replace it, it just has a higher up front cost.
I work for a major manufacturer of things as a field tech. they pulled all the canned air out of our vehicles and issued us one of these. 10-20x more powerful, never runs out. comes with attachments. 11/10.
You find yourself using all the time when you are not paying by the can.
Invest now and never worry again. It's incredible.
Are you talking about one of these:
If it really works well, I wouldn't mind paying $60 for one to use with my PC
Stronger than Compressed Air, lasts until you break it. Worth every penny.
I want to get this thing and try it pretty badly. [link]
No don't. Get one of these. Works wonders.
I got this vacuum for christmas. It's pretty beast for cleaning out your PC. :)
no. something like this is better: [link]
The datavac is the only other option I know of.
It's expensive, but it's the last can of air you'll ever need.
I use this thing. It pays for itself after a few months, and also serves as an amazing cat repellent.
Thanks, you too :)
Btw, I heard good things about one of these as an alternative for canned air. I sadly cannot buy one, because I don't live in the US and can't find it anywhere here, but it saves a lot of money if you use a lot of canned air.
Buy yourself one of these. I've owned one for a while, has been nothing but a godsend. It saves you money on compressed air cans, and pretty much cleans the shit out of anything you'd want it to.
Unplug everything, go to garage, and use my DataVac, take out 5-10 minutes, tops, pull off side panel, and front cover, blow dust out, and done.
Best purchase I've made.
Save yourself the canned air hassle and get one of these.
Quick and simple. Cleaned out all the dust on my 540 in 2 minutes and now it runs so much cooler. A bit spendy to start up with but when you compare that a can of air costs in my area about 8 bucks and it will only last a short time before you lose pressure due to cold or just runs out, it a good investment for the long haul. Plus it makes dusting other household items easier too!
This is a datavac--it's a handheld electric blower, not canned air, which is why I was wondering.
It's also really powerful, and torques your hand when you turn it on.
I got this for cleaning out my PC. It's so freaking good at cleaning and it's hella fun to use. I would highly recommend one.
A lot of people recommend investing in a datavac since air cans are expensive and don't last very long. No idea if this is the best one but something like this: [link]
I was going to mention the Metro DataVac but sure! (Tiny 3/4 leaf blower. I mean blower)
I blame my iPad. I know how to not post links now!
I have one of these. My company bought it for me because I work on cash registers and peripherals. As you can imagine, they get filled with all kinds of dust and crude. I like it because it is powerful enough, but it won't leave a residue like duster can.
One of these they're pricy but worth it in the long run.
Usually when people mention air compressors some people think of these but get the air compressor, you just plug it in and boost it up and its safe for your pc. (how ever I'd recommend doing it outside though) it can get dust everywhere if you do it inside.
Not necessarily as good as a can of air for the really concentrated burst of air, but it will last a lot longer and take care of the worst of your problems. As someone else mentioned, use of a brush will help knock loose the stuff this won't get by itself.
Not sure if my link is the best out there, it's just a quick example from google.
Moister in the compressor or lines is the problem. The ascended use...
Had same issue till I ditched that case (god do I feel free without it now)
Here's the solution
Upfront cost somewhat high...long term cheaper than canned air. The performance is absurd though compared to canned air. Night and day
i recommend the DataVac if you want a cleaning solution to keep around.
keep a vacuum near where you are working to suck up the ambient dust that comes off the components.
Hold fans from spinning while you clean so that you don't overspin them and cause damage.
also, you could look into a non static conductive brush to lightly (EMPHASIS ON LIGHTLY) brush dust that has clung to components via static to get things even more clean.
Just reply to this if you have any more questions!
Have you thoroughly dusted out all of the components? Clogged fans can ruin GPUs and PSUs REALLY quickly, and can also cause these sorts of issues.
Consider getting this bad boy, the Metro ED500 Electronic Duster. It runs about the same as a few cans of compressed air, but lasts forever (with proper care) and can be used for all SORTS of awesome stuff.
I got this bad boy for christmas which unstickied my Surface Pro 3 keys (I spilled some coffee or tea on the keyboard a while back) but an air compressor might work too. I'd just be careful about too much air if it's very powerful. A can of normal air duster from Staples might be enough too, just don't huff it.
Get a can of compressed air (or an electronic duster like this bad boy) and blow air into the exhaust port.
That should dislodge any dust clinging to the heatsinks, and should hopefully help.
Otherwise, you're likely looking at some kind of firmware update, as I've seen that happen a few times with certain Macbooks (A1181 specifically).
You can quite likely find disassembly instructions online for one, and for two, draw a map of the laptop on a piece of paper, then tape the screws you remove to that map. Layer by layer.
Lastly, consider getting this rather than cans of compressed air. It costs about as much as 4-7 cans, but it'll last forever and it's also great for blowing up air mattresses and other fun stuff.
Off topic but instead of compressed air might I recommend this:
$60, it's more powerful than canned air, never runs out, and it's built like a tank. I use the little brush attachment to clean out my keyboards.
I agree canned air sucks but damn that duster you linked is expensive. I got one of these. Ive had it for about a year now and it works great.
A can of compressed air is my usual go-to for dust. You can also get one of those mini electric blowers if dust is a pretty persistent problem.
EDIT: like this one
Microfiber cloth? No spray with it? How will the cloth get the marks and stuff off all my screens? Some of then have "gunk" on them.
That vac I linked above, it's a blower and a vacuum. Wouldn't that work? Just blow the dust of the PC? So the "suction/vacuum" feature of that device is pointless?
There is also this other Metro Vacuum, it's a few bucks cheaper and only a blower, not a vacuum. But wouldn't the first one just be better?
The BIOS on this board is nice in the sense that it can be updated via usb stick when in the BIOS. I much prefer that over having to have Windows to do that stuff. My last update on it was in April. I did write down the version so I'll check online tomorrow to see if there are any updates for it.
I use one of these badasses every few months on all of the inner workings of the computer, so the next time I have to open up the chassis, I'll be reseating the RAM as well.
The better option is to go with compressed air or one of these.
Get an electric duster, it pays for itself in no time, plus it's green for the environment. I bought one on Amazon a few weeks ago for my pc and I have been using it on everything.
Its WAY more powerful than cans, therefore more effective. Also, it won't freeze in your hand.
Highly recommend, here is a link.
this is all you need right here OP.
Metro Vacuum ED500 DataVac 500-Watt
> Metro Vacuum ED500
> This newest addition to Metro's proven DataVac line has been completely redesigned from the ground-up. It is much more compact and comfortable to use than previous models and features a new, almost unbelievably powerful 500-watt motor that literally blasts dust, dirt, and debris off expensive computer/electronic equipment to keep it running at peak efficiency. The new DataVac electric duster is a "greener," more effective, and cost-efficient alternative to the controversial "canned air" products
Yes, the name is confusing.
This right here
Although, I got it when it was substantially cheaper ($35 dollar range). Plus, I have multiple gaming PC's to use it on. Which is what I purchased it for. If you have the disposable income though, it's incredible.
Pro-Protip: Metro Datavac.
Seriously, this thing is amazing.
Problem with canned air is it's shit. Has barely any power and runs out in a couple of minutes. This one always comes highly recommended but it's expensive.
I have pets, things get dusty. I got one of these and use it every couple of months (outside!). It's labeled a vacuum, but it blows air. No dust or anything else left when you're done with it.
or buy one of these [link]
i bought one ages back to clean my PC out with, works must better than the cans and is inifinite provided you have power LOL.
canned air is a waste of money at what 1o usd per can. U need this [link]
This is your new God
I bought one of these things and have been very happy with it. It's a one-time investment and will save you a lot of money in the long run. It's loud as hell, so no late-night computer cleaning, but it get the job done.
Ah, good call. Just found this thing on Amazon. Might be a good investment. Thanks.
I just got one of these last week and I love it. You can turn it any which way you want and it also doesnt lose power after 25 seconds of continuous use like canned air.
I hear good things about the data vac
I too was tired of buying all those cans. I now use this thing and its just as strong as those air cans. Working on hundreds of pc's a month this thing has already paid for itself.
I use a small electric blower to keep mine clean. its loud as hell and gets pretty hot, but it works wonders.
I've used it to make computers that haven't been cleaned in easily 5 years look brand new.
Don't use forced air on this, it will just blow the dust everywhere. Use a ~~small vacuum for electronics instead~~
Edit: this one is actually a vacuum, the one I listed above is not. I don't own either, just trying to find something available that shows what I'm talking about.
I highly suggest a DataVac Electroncs Duster if you do this often.
Buy that, blow the crap out of your PC. Make sure to stop your fans from spinning freely because it can make them spin faster than they were designed for. I bought one years ago and not buying canned air has paid for itself.
I think the Metro Vacuum will fit the bill. It's what I use for my car and computers. Works great, a lot quieter than an air compressor and really portable, but still powerful.
I use one of these. They're kinda loud and a little pricey, but at $8 a can, canned air is expensive.
Is this what you are talking about? It's obnoxious but works great.
Edit: I have never had a problem with the standard one that I have used on multiple computers but here is the link for the anti-static version. [link]
The datavacs really are quite nice. I use the smaller 3/4hp vac at work and just bought one for home. Its super portable and really gets the dust out. However, it does lack an actual vacuum and will kick dust everywhere! Link here: [link] (sorry I'm on mobile)
Edit: Learned to read previous comment. Corrected my comment on lots of dust.
Metro Vac for the win. Worth every penny.
I know you're looking for something other than a duster, but really, this is the only safe way to do it.
I'm confused by everyone saying compressed air. I still have some residue from that crap in my computer. I've used this. It's super powerful. Just make sure you stabilize your fans somehow to prevent spinning.
I recommend the Datavac Duster:
Very powerful, comes with lots of accessories, $55 on Amazon, I more than recovered that in a year of not buying stupid compressed air cans, been running great for 3 years of frequent use. Yes, it is loud, but it gets the job done.
Or you could just quit being lazy. Datavac...for those that TRULY ascend.
A more cost effective method would be an electric duster or even a pancake compressor. That way you can get more use and versatility out of your money. If you get a compressor though make sure it is an oil-free compressor!
These will also suffice, 3/4 hp of fun!
Buy one of these. Way better than that canned air crap.
You'll thank me.
edit: whoever downvoted me... Dude, you have to get one. They're so crazy good.
I just have one of these. Unfortunately no one believes it's a bomb...
Well, there is always This...
try one of these