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If you need a cheaper alternative, check out Micca MB42X and MB42X-C on Amazon. Should run you about $170 for left, right, center speakers
Appreciate the input! Thanks. I'm leaning towards pulling the trigger on this bundle and upgrading to these bookshelf speakers for the L&R within 3 months.
I looked into the X1400H, but didn't think I would need a 7.2 versus a 5.1.
Check out the Micca MB42X (and the MB42X-C if you also need a center channel). Obviously, you'll need to save some more money, but they're a good bang for the buck under $100/pair.
If you want cheaper speakers, you can get these:
Micca MB42X - $80
Buy a used AV receiver, you can get an older unit without HDMI for not much money. You can connect your PC via RCA and your PS4 via S/PDIF. Then you can power any standard set of speakers, I would recommend the Micca MB42X speakers on a budget. All you need is some speaker wire, and ideally foam pads to isolate them from the desk and point them at your ears.
I had a pair of these several years ago and I gave them away. They don't do great on the low end or the high end. I think for slightly more money I would get the Micca MB42x $80. I found them to have better highs, slightly hot, and much better bass. All in a smaller package. If you're going for a 2.0 they are much better for the bass alone.
I linked the Canadian link, they're a lot cheaper than the price, I got mine for like $150 CAD. You need something to power them (a dac/pre amp), or you can buy powered ones if you don't want to worry about that.
FYI - Amazon.ca is showing one more Micca mb42x left in stock via Prime right now.
I personally would but I've not heard the Air's to be honest. The Micca's are probably my favorite budget speaker. They are small, sound decent, have a good low end for their size and have a affordable center. They cross low so when adding a sub you don't have to get a sub that sounds good going up very high. Overall they are a very versatile speaker.
I'm not trying to be a jerk but the Polk signatures are the same price as the ELAC B5's.
I certainly understand being cost sensitive I'm just trying to get you decent speakers. If you have to go budget and you're importing them I would look at the Micca MB42X as they are the best cheap speakers around.
$180 is a pretty tough price point though. A quality amp starts around $50-$60, and decent speakers like the Micca's in the post above are $80 a pair. The LSR305's are still the king for price/performance and can be found for $200 a pair.
Micca PB42X, in my bedroom (which also double as my pc speakers). Ended up with those after doing a lot of looking around and the general consensus was that, for that price, you can't really get any better small bookshelf speakers.
Thanks for the reply!
>Receiver: Get the S720 factory refurb for the same price
Any particular reason I should upgrade to the S720? I don't care about 7.1
>The Micca center is on backorder, FYI. I bought a 3.0 for $75, and would blow away the Micca's.
I know they're on backorder. I'm not doing this in the very near future, within a couple months perhaps. What do you mean when you say you bought a 3.0?
Should I stick with my Micca center and get Micca fronts to match?
Edit: I realize now that 3.0 means two fronts and a center with no Sub.
Micca MB42X are pretty much the most popular entry level speakers, at $90 a pair.
If you want surrounds to be wireless, then you would need a wireless system like Bose or SONOS. HDMI does allow for higher bitrate audio, but you won't even come close to hearing the difference on either Bose or SONOS. SONOS is much better than BOSE, but still are not that great audio wise.
For their respective subwoofers, the SONOS only gets to 34Hz at -3dB and the Bose I can't find anything on (what a surprise). A <$150 regular subwoofer would kick their asses without even trying.
I personally would have a good 3.1 over a poor 5.1.
You're the first person I've seen recommend that all speakers should match. Even /u/ZeosPantera didn't say anything of the sort in his reviews, as far as I recall. Is really a prevalent opinion?
Should I stick with my Micca center and get Micca fronts to match?
Can't say I know much about audio equipment, honestly.
My roommate has a pioneer VSX-830 that is really cool. Wifi capabilities with Pandora and Spotify, HDMI connections, and Bluetooth. It's super nice and he got it on sale for about $180? I'd have to ask. I know pioneer is a trusted budget brand here.
For speakers I have these, which I really like (recommended from this sub), along with some older Bose bookshelf speakers my dad bought in college.
Both are hot garbage.
> Sidebar Wisdom:
99.9% of the time Soundbars or HTiB (Home Theater in a Box) systems are not a good investment of your time and money. It is the general consensus of r/hometheater not to recommend these things and instead simply steer a user toward a 2.0 or 2.1 system made of quality, Audio-Centric name brand components easy to assemble and cheap enough for low budget or space conscious buyers. Most can be expanded to 5.1 if you buy items in the correct order.
For $200 you should be looking at used receivers & speakers (non HTIB's) or get a set of these [link] & a used receiver on craigslist or at goodwill to power them until you can afford a better receiver then start adding a center, subwoofer, & surrounds as you replenish budget.
I bought these from amazon: Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers With 4-Inch Carbon Fiber Woofer and Silk Dome Tweeter. As a complete noob, I did not know that it is not a standard speaker that comes with an audio port that connects to your PC and it does not have a power cable (like the cheap speakers I bought before). I am not sure what to buy and how to use this speakers now. Can someone point me to the right direction?
Thanks so much.
I did a ton of research earlier this year when I upgraded our home system. I got these, and the matching center, and have been really pleased with them. I will get another set for replacing my rear surrounds too.
Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers With 4-Inch Carbon Fiber Woofer and Silk Dome Tweeter (Black, Pair)
Sorry about the formatting, on the phone.
My Micca speakers are not powered - I have these:
That's why I was using the SMSL amp
re: the connections, I have the sound blaster sound card in the desktop, from which I have a 3.5mm to RCA wire coming out, which connects to the amp. The amp then has speaker wire i'm running to both of the Micca speakers.
I understand from another thread that the SMSL component I bought is in fact an amp, not a DAC, so that's what must be powering the speakers.
used Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers for $75 is your best bet, otherwise just get a decent Logitech set for less than $50
So, I have a solid receiver, a decent sub that I bought a year or so ago, and apparently I never got around to upgrading the speakers to my system.
Now, what brought this up is that I meant to get a projector and screen in a home theater room and I never got around to it - which is why it is half assed put together. So, the speakers came from some crappy set speakers I have had forever for a cheap home theater system that I just changed the wires on and plugged into the new receiver.
Now that I have some cash laying around, I figured it was time to go ahead and splurge and finish off this project.
So, I have a good idea on the projector and screen....now I just want better speakers.
It will be 90% home theater, occasional football, but mainly movies/netflix/etc.
I am on a budget of $500ish for the 2 main speakers, center, and the two rear speakers. For the rear speakers, I am thinking of getting the Micca MB42X
What are people's rec's on a solid entry level pair of mains/center that will not kill my budget?
Thank you for the feedback.
According to the newegg link I sent, the Frequency Response is 42Hz - 20KHz. I assumed that was becuase it is a 2.1 system, which inspired by question in the first place. The Micca response cure starts at 60Hz.
I have a bit higher budget and I guess in short, I wanted to know what the next lowest system is you would recommend. I already bought the SMSL Q5. I like the variety of inputs and it allows for 2.1. Is there a speaker buying guide for the next level beyond the Miccas?
I am saving up to upgrade my current home system and I feel bad asking such open ended questions...
I've used headphones my whole life and want to buy an audio system for my room. I will be using either my phone or my laptop as the source of the music and I was thinking I could connect with an aux cable. Are the 2 things I need an amplifier + speakers? I would like to spend $200 canadian, but I'm open to spend more on other options if it makes a big difference in build quality/ product life span.
I was thinking of getting these speakers. Now all I need is an amp. Recommendations/any info I should know is appreciated.
Hey guys, I'm looking at upgrading my speakers. I currently have a 600w Sony STR-K840P, with all six(5.1) stock speakers. All the stock speakers are 100w, so I believe I should look at speakers around that range. My budget is $100. I'm looking to replace the front two speakers, and possibly the center. I have my eyes on the Micca MB42X, but I'm not entirely sure what the difference between the MB42X and the MB42 is. Anyone have advice on what to buy?
The Micca MB42X are good budget bookshelf speakers. I own a pair myself and have been happy with them, though they are a little lacking in bass.
I just checked by adding a German address to my Amazon address list and it definitely ships. It has to say Shipped and Sold by Amazon.
So I'm looking to buy some speakers for home use, with a budget of around 100-170$. I'm kind of a speaker noob, so I can't really say anything that I'd actually wanna go for, but the Micca MB42X looked pretty attractive both money and performance wise (atlest with the little knowledge I have).
I want a mid-field speaker for my room, it doesn't need to be too loud cause I live in a flat with pretty thin walls, but every once in a while it would be nice to turn up the volume and blare loud music for a party or something.
I wanna play music from my computer mostly, so I guess I'll need an amp or a DAC, not sure.
I wanna use the speaker pretty much solely for playing music. I listen to electronic msuic, mainly trap and house, so bass is pretty important. I have smaller crappy speakers for normal usage, so I want these for the premium listening experience.
Well that's all, hope you guys can help me out! :)
Personally, I think that's a terrible suggestion to not worry about your speakers. There are some really bad speakers out there. And some great deals to be had on used tables...
Some speakers can be really bad. Also, I'm assuming your record player won't be your only source of music? Your other sources will suffer from the lack of spending on speakers. You can get some really nice stuff speaker-wise for 100-200 bucks if you look around on craigslist and ebay. And your turntable doesn't have to be brand new.
If you're cool with used look for name brands that are known for good speakers. B&W, Boston Acoustic, Polk, Advent, JBL to name a few. Google the model number of whatever you find, see what people on the interbutts think about the speakers. If you have to have new speakers, these are OK for 89 bucks, but there's better stuff out there... That's pretty much the minimum of what I could recommend; you can spend more to get better, but those are OK to start.
Okay thanks for the explaination! Any idea would it be worth purchasing the Micca MB42Xs? Im not sure what to expect and if they would be worth it. Im looking at Lepai $20 amp since I cant afford a much stronger one currently.
Correct - so the G wall is where the TV and receiver will be. It's unfortunate that the speaker panels are in the top left corner but I can run that through the floors under the basement and back up to the G wall.
So what I think you're saying is that I leverage the existing 4.0 set up and added a sub and an additional speaker (is this what you mean by a center?) for a 5.1 set up?
I've looked at your guide and it's unfortunate that most bookshelf speakers and rear channel speakers are quite big, like this Mica MB42x I need to find out how much weight the wall mounts can hold but it sounds like I'll need to find a sweet spot between size and performance.
Also - you've been incredibly helpful. What can we do to provide additional support for you?
Oh man, no worries! Most of everything on my desk is either used or a thrift store find. As dumb as it sounds, it feels more rewarding when I get to add/upgrade and not break the bank.
I was just wondering about the mounts you're using though. I'm using a pair of these Micca's, and I really don't want to drill a mount into them, or pay more for the side clamping shelf kind.
Thank you so much for this, it really helps.
I'm planning on getting 6 more of these, but since they are Bookshelf Speakers would they work well?
Or is there another set you recommend?
Ah, I messed up. It's 42x. Been awhile since I was shopping haha.
I've heard that M audio isn't complete crap, but they are the very entry level for speakers. There's always those purchases that you regret after a few years once you realize what is actually good.
I'm sorry, I did come off as brash but that is the correct solution to your problem.
Soundbars are terrible. They sound bad, the all-in-one nature makes troubleshooting difficult and they're just not worth the money you pay for them.
You say you have a receiver, does it have an amplifier built in? If so, you could sell your soundbar on craigslist or ebay and buy a pair of these, which are unbelievably good value (and they're on sale right now!)
A lot of the things you want to do are not what AVRs are supposed to do. That's what HTPCs are for.
If you want to play movies from your NAS, you don't need an AVR, you need a specialized device, like a Chromecast, FireTV, etc.
And pushing audio OUT over bluetooth isn't something I think is available. You're going the wrong direction. The AVR is there to decode signals and pass them through to your speakers and TV.
As for using your existing speakers, you can, but you shouldn't. Go to /r/zeos for some advice on inexpensive speakers that still sound great. Or just buy these.
This is a little outside the normal realm of buildapc, but I figured I would ask since so many people here seem to have these speakers. I am looking at buying the Micca MB42x bookshelf speakers and k was wondering, do I need banana plugs for these speakers with speaker cable, or does the cable plug directly into it like the old speaker ports that were tension clip things.
They're <strong>Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers</strong>. Great sound for the price, I recommend them. Keep in mind these aren't powered speakers...You'll need an AMP and speaker wire at the very least to use them. If you look at the "Frequently Bought Together" section on that amazon page you'll see what you need. (Though you could go with a different AMP and different speaker wire, up to you.)
I think it looks better with black speakers. A white desk with white speakers wouldn't look good in my mind. They're <strong>Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers</strong> though. Really great speakers for the price.
That amp will Be fine for your current TT. You won't be able to crank it without distortion, but it's probably the best you will do without browsing goodwill or Craigslist.
For speakers under 100 I recommend the Micca MB42X.
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Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-400M
Ascend HTM-200, I use these on my desk.
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The Micca RB42 are sold out currently, but should be back by the end of the month. I'd recommend those. They're $130, and you can get a $20 amp from Lepai and call it a day.
The MB42X would be my next choice. Get them with an SMSL SA-36a and that's a fantastic setup. They also make a powered version, the PB42, if you dont want an amp.
The Edifier P12 is a really fun speaker. If you want them to be powered, I'm sure the R1700BT is a great choice. I haven't heard them yet, but they should be good to go.
$250 AV Receiver Denon 720 (refurb w/ltd warranty, has HDCP 2.2 Dolby Atmos)
$90 Micca MB42X Bookshelves PAIR for Front
$90 Micca MB42X Bookshelves PAIR for Surround
$70 Micca MB42X-C Center Channel
$42 Micca M8C In-ceiling speakers EACH (for x.x.2 atmos)
$200 BIC America F12 12" Sub
$550 Projector Optoma 142X (cnet.com "Best Picture for the Money" 2018)
$205 Elite Manual 120" Projector Screen
You will also want a universal remote (Logitech Harmony recommended), speaker wire / banana plugs, stands / mounts, HDMI + subwoofer cable. So with this stuff as well you're over budget, but you could grab everything except the sub and add that later, for example.
EDIT: found the projector recommendation here, with more research you might be able to find better (same for the screen):
Are you just looking for small speakers? Because these can be considered satellites by definition. I think people mistake compact speakers as satellites. Micca MB42X
That's feasible. I'll do it with small speakers too. It'll be close.
Denon Receiver for $150
Micca MB42X for front mains and rears. $80 a pair, so $160.
Micca MB42X-C for a center. $70.
Dayton Subwoofer for $120
That's $500. Those speakers are fantastic, and they're small. Best of both worlds. The sub 1000 is good. If you can squeeze out the extra $30, the sub 1200 is better. It's a bit bigger so it'll get louder and lower.
How does that all look?
Micca MB42X or Edifier P17 plus an amp and subwoofer.
Pass on the older MB42 without the updated crossover.
For powered, Edifier 1700 over the 1280 or Micca PB42X are powered.
For $100, not the worst you could do but not great. Ok for starting a 5.1 then replace the speakers and the subwoofer when you can. Then a 4K receiver if you need it.
If you want a computer setup the speakers are not going to be very good at all on their own, you would need the subwoofer to get any bass and the midrange will still be lacking. I keep my full size receiver on a small 18" end table either under my desk or off to the side.
For desktop speakers get Micca MB42X with an optional subwoofer or when available the Micca RB42 have more bass if not adding a subwoofer. Then power them with an SMSL SA50 or Topping MX3 besides many others.
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Yeah, unless that's just the way the Edifiers are.
Have you considered trying the popular Micca MB42X with an SMSL SA36 or SA50 then Speaker Wire Only Sub Hookup? Or the Topping MX3 has a subwoofer out jack.
thanks for the details.
so you definitely are needing powered speakers or an amp and speakers.
personally, i'd lean towards the Ai60s just for the convenience of the blue-tooth and optical input options, and the remote to switch between your sources is a bonus. powered speakers mean less cables, which may be less of an advantage for you, since you already have a stack of components.
if you don't mind the less bassy frequency response of the Eris 4.5's, i think they are a great brand and product line.
plus lower price than the Ai60's, and they are true studio monitors.
for more money you can get a pair of Micca MB42X - $80
a powered 8" sub - $150
and a 2.1 amp - $150
Micca MB42X speakers and SMSL SA50 or Topping MX3 mini amp. Add 3.5mm to RCA Cable and Speaker Wire, then 4 Ways to Strip Wire - wikiHow. Separates allows you to upgrade one part at a time later.
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You have a lot of good responses here. Here is what I would do.
Fronts and Rears - Micca MB42X $80 - Small books that actually go low enough to blend nicely with the sub. The Audyssey will make them sound better than on their own.
Center - Micca MB42XC $70
Sub - BIC PL-200 $250 - This is a nasty cat for price. You're looking at low 20's for under 3 bills.
If I had the time, skills and space to build them, C-Notes. I think they go a bit lower than the Wavecrests.
If not, then the Wavecrests for the neutral sound, great mids and linear frequency response. They are best with a subwoofer.
If short on space, the smaller Daytons. They may have good bass for a small speaker. Supposedly similar to the not currently available Micca RB42 which are a step up from the Micca MB42X. Video review comparison from moderator Joe N Tell.
Larger cabinet 4" Pioneer SP-BS22 $99 are also popular.
I have Ascend HTM-200 SE on my small desk. If I had a larger desk I would have kept my Ascend CBM-170 SE that are now in my living room. I bough both pairs half price like new eBay and LetGo.
KEF Q150 are very popular and may be a good improvement over the previous generation Q100s. Also at Amazon and KEF.
Also on sale, Wharfedale Diamond 210 or Wharfedale Diamond 220 or Wharfedale Diamond 225.
It is all personal preference and best to try 2 or 3 pairs in your home to find out what your like then return what you don't like. (Not sure on the return policy for C-notes once they are built).
The Micca RB42 is out of stock until the end of the month. They would be my pick.
The next best, in my opinion of course, would be the MB42X. Micca is really the king of budget speakers like this.
With those, you'll need some speaker cable and [an amplifier](www.amazon.com/dp/B017W13OR0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_8OfdDbDZ86D2E).
That will be much better than the Logitechs. If you care to wait, the Micca RB42 should be either $130 or $150 when they come back. They're both fantastic speakers though.
If you want a sub, a Dayton Sub800 would do the trick.
Oh also, you'll need a cable to plug the amp into the computer. RCA to 3.5mm. If you don't have one, you can get an AmazonBasics one for a few bucks.
Let me know what you think.
Yes, still the Infinity speakers for 50/50.
Center is just for movies and TV, better dialog. You don't use the center for music, though it is an option, just no benefit for music.
The matching Infinity center is the Infinity Reference RC252 $179.
If you do want a center, 3x Wavcrests are a good buy. The center in this case is the same as the left and right, just on it's side.
If the room is small and you will be adding a subwoofer, 4" Micca MB42X $79 are popular with the dual 4" center $90. Or the larger cabinet 4" Pioneer SP-BS22-LR $96 with Pioneer SP-C22 $98.
Miccas are small.
A pair of these would be okay.
A lot of better speakers will be bigger by quite a bit. Even the Ascends are rather large. HSU HB-1s are tall but not very deep, so maybe that could work?
If you're willing to buy used, maybe look around for a pair of old Ohm Walsh speakers. They're not very tall but they're pretty wide, and aren't easy to knock over. Also, the drivers are covered in a metal cone. I think they'd be the ideal kid-safe speakers if you have room for them. You mentioned that you didn't want something 'obtrusive' but I'm not sure if that's because you don't want it to get knocked over, or if you just don't have the room. If you don't have the room, then ignore this part haha.
You need to spend a little more for a decent 5.1.2. I highly recommend putting in the wiring for 7.2.4 at the start, particularly the extra set of Atmos speakers, no one wants to tear up their ceiling twice.
That is a good deal on the x2400, the only advantage the x1500 would have is a phono input and the x2400 can't do on screen display while using 4k.
HSU 3.1 $1184 w/shipping
HSU VTF2 Subwoofer $607 w/shipping
Ascend CBM-170SE x3 LRC $510 w/shipping
Towers: Infinity R253 $400
or Bookshelf: Infinity R162 $200
Center: Infinity RC263 $200
Polk OWM3 $150 Lower profile, easily mount
Infinity RS152 $170 Would match the Infinity option
Wavecrest HVL-1 $160 Would match the Ascend option
Smaller cheaper surround options:
Micca MB42X $80
Dayton B452AIR $46
Atmos is a configuration that uses a traditional surround sound setup (5.1 or 7.1) in addition to speakers in the ceiling. There are significant technical details that are different, but all you need to know is that it uses in-ceiling speakers.
Take a look at this site [link]. It will give you some info on what the speaker setup differences between traditional surround setups (5.1, 7.1) and atmos setups (5.1.X or 7.1.X) are. The speakers you have right now would ONLY be used for the in-ceiling speakers (the .X part of the setup).
If you want a 5.1.4 setup (5.1.4 overhead speaker setup in the guide I linked), which takes advantage of 4 of your in-ceiling speakers, it's possible on your budget, but obviously won't be the best around.
Front L/R speakers
This fits into you budget of $500 receiver, $200 on speakers, and $200 on subwoofer. It is pretty much the lowest quality speakers/subwoofer you can get that are still respectable. But you will probably be just fine with it.
You'll also need speaker wire, subwoofer cable, etc., which will run you another $75ish maybe.
B652 with a Lepy amp could work well and would be easy.
However, I'm a big fan of Micca.
> am wondering what a normal upgrade path from this would be.
Unfortunately, you won't actually be able to upgrade this system. You'll have to start over.
> I really like bass
This is going to be tough, and probably not worth it.
This speaker and amp combo combined with this subwoofer would be your best bet.
However I would recommend getting a good 2.0 setup (just a pair of speakers) and then adding the subwoofer later.
This pair of speakers along with this amplifier would be a fantastic start. You'll need speaker wire as well, and probably a cable to plug it in.
Another good option, but over budget, would be all of that stuff combined with this pair of micca speakers. There's a good chance that you won't even feel the need for a sub with these.
> IS the HW-K450 any good?
Well, not for music. Soundbars can be great for a TV if you have no room, but for music, they're pretty bad. However, the price tag of $0.00 makes it the best bang for your buck!
At $500 I will recommend a basic entry level system.
Denon S540BT - $150
Dayton Sub 1200 - $150
Front LR - Micca MB42X - $80
Center Micca MB42X-C - $70
Surrounds - Dayton B452-AIR - $46
Neither of those will be particularly good.
Will these fit?
What speakers do you have?
Why under 7"? Photo of setup?
Small 4" speakers will need to be on their sides.
Yes I do. You'd probably want something a bit on the small side.
I'd go with these micca mb42x along with an smsl sa36a amplifier. That would be a great setup. You could do that and save up for a sub in the future.
Yep, you could try a pair of these passive speakers, with this class d amp and this DAC
Start with 2 or 3 matching front speakers then add a subwoofer and surrounds later.
The surrounds and subwoofer can be different brands than the fronts. Or start with just 2 MiccaMBX42 $80 speakers or a bit better Pioneer SP-BS22-LR $100, then move those to surrounds when you more of a budget for 3 better and larger front speakers.
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Clearance, dual 5.25" mid-bass driver Polk Audio Monitor 40 Series $100 with Polk Audio Monitor CS1 center $80.
HTD Home Theater Direct Level Two or Three
3x Wavecrest Audio HVL-1, order on sale here at Ascend $80 each + shipping. To me, competitive with and less cost than the popular KEF Q100.
On sale, Polk Audio Signature S15 $160 or Polk Audio Signature S20 $230 with the Polk Audio Signature S30 center $160.
Sale 7" JBL Arena 130 $100 with Arena Center $100.
DIY: Overnight Sensations $140 a pair, then the Overnight Sensations MTM center $95
Low budget surrounds:
Dayton Audio B452 4-1/2" 2-Way Bookshelf Speaker Pair $28.
Low budget and better than the small HK sub, Dayton Sub1200 $138, or the Dayton Audio SUB-1500 $188 and try the $10 off coupon for either. Or save longer for a Bic-Acoustech-PL-200 $250.
Better subwoofers: 10" open box SVS PB1000 $400 shipped or HSU VTF-1 MK3 $455 shipped. 12" HSU VTF-2 MK5 $580 shipped.
Pure copper oxygen free 14g speaker wire or 16 gauge is a few dollars less, then self adjusting wire strippers or basic.
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5.8 inches wide
The passive MB42x miccas, a mini amp, and a Dayton subwoofer, try the $10 off coupon.
Then a 3.5mm switch to switch between headphones and speakers.
Mini amps: SMSL SA50 $65, Dayton Audio DTA-120BT $75, Micca OriGain $80 or $100 with USB input DAC.
For less cost then the SMSL AD18 look for a used full size stereo or AV receiver if you have the space. Or a new Denon AVR-S540BT $140 refurbished or YAMAHAR-S202 $90 refurbished.
Pioneer SP-BS22-LR $100
Sony SSCS5 $73 on sale.
DIY: Kits include pre-cut cabinets. Glue, solder, paint, assemble. Compare built speakers costing 2 to 3 times as much. 5" C-Notes $100 or 4" Overnight Sensations MT $140
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If going with Micca, get the MB42X. Or powered PB42X. The Covo are micro speakers that are barely good enough for even satellite surround speakers.
Will your setup work...yes. Is it how I would go no. I'm just not a fan of the Dayton B652/air. I know they are cheap but they just don't deliver for the size. It's a big sealed box that really doesn't give the low end. I know it's hard with a budget of $100 but if you push a bit here is what I would do.
Speakers - These will do better IMO and have a matching if you want to expand to a HT setup.
Amp - Lepy 2020 $22 - yep the old lepy. For a desktop setup it will get the job done. You'll be rewarded in the future if you upgrade to something with more power.
Wire - Amazon 14ga speaker wire $10
For that budget, the used market, that barely covers a mid-tier receiver.
If willing to upgrade over time:
This Yamaha receiver
Micca for L/R and center
Save up for a Dayton sub-1200 from PartsExpress ($148), and the Dayton B652-Airs are decent for surround speakers.
For under $100, the best option would probably be the Micca MB42X. They're usually around $80.
Stop trying to use the TV speakers at all. Even a cheap soundbar will sound much better. Not that I recommend one, compared to some bookshelf speakers + budget receiver it would suck.
Skip the soundbar get a better 2.1 AV receiver setup that gives you the option of expanding to 3.1 or 5.1.
Denon AVR-S530BT $150 refurbished 5.2 AV receiver with HDCP 2.2 for 4K HDMI
If you need something slim for under your TV you could start with a PASSIVE Sound Bar or "Speaker Bar".
Dayton BS41 $200, 3 channel passive speaker bar.
Better Bookshelf Speakers:
Dayton Air 6.5" $50
Pioneer SP-BS22-LR $90
DIY C-notes $100
Sony SSCS5 $120
Wavecrest Audio HVL-1, order on sale here $160 pair + shipping
On sale: Infinity Reference R152 5" $170, Infinity Reference R162 6.5" $200
Speaker wire and wire strippers.
Franklin (Dayton rebrand) 12" subwoofer $120.
How to Set Up a Basic Home Theater System - Lifewire, Crutchfield Guides.
If you need something smaller than the Daytons, Polk Audio T15 $70 or Micca MB42X $80.
I did want to pair the lepai with these speakers [link]
I don't think they're active speakers.
$300 is a slim budget but you can get it done. It will also be a lot better than a soundbar. Do you need a center channel and left/right bookshelfs or just the bookshelves for now?
Check out this AV unit - [link]
You could use these speakers now and then save up for better ones and move these to the rear for surround sound - [link]
Will you be upgrading to a 5.1 AV Receiver?
Will a center speaker fit on your desk? What does your current setup look like? You could go without a center with 4.1.
The Polk and KEF are rather deep at 10" and may be best suited for front main left and right speakers. The JBL Arena B15 is slim and easy to wall mount, still a good size speaker. The Micca Covo-s is the smallest and the easiest to place and wall mount. Also take a look at the larger Micca MB42X, which will be a step up from the Covo-s.
It is best to keep front left, right, and center from the same speaker line. The surrounds can be different.
5.1 Polk Signature S15 , Polk Signature S30 Center, Micca MB42X surrounds, JBL LSR310S Sub.
5.1 Micca MB42X, Micca MB42X-Center, Micca COVO-S surrounds, JBL LSR310S Sub.
r/AverageJoeAudiophile Speaker List • r/AverageJoeAudiophile Subwoofer List • r/AverageJoeAudiophile AMPLIFIRES, RECEIVERS & DAC'S
Micca PB42X They’re in a great desk size, powered, clear highs with good balanced lows. Competitive pricing too.
Most soundbars with HDMI only have like 2 inputs.
That’s $490. Add in speaker wire, maybe banana plugs, and a subwoofer cable; worry about surround later (even “wireless” ones from a soundbar are wired, they are just wired into the wireless subwoofer, meaning you are forced to put the subwoofer by the seating area, which likely isn’t the best spot?). If you want, a Logitech Harmony 650 is $33 and setup is done with a computer.
Regular plain speaker wire will cost you like $10. However, you have to strip them yourselves, cheap ones don’t look nice, and they are a pain without banana plugs. So, for a nicer product that’s easier to use, you can get these, but it does cost ~3x as much.
You linked to MB42, not MB42X
I have them and that's not them on OP's desk. I'm not sure what he has.
Last question, how could I use these speakers with that mixer? It seems like I would have to convert the 1/4 Inch Dual L/R output to Split speaker wire for the left and right speakers w/ banana plugs or something. It seems like there is no wire that does this, would using a bunch of adapters cause a bunch of quality loss? Any recommendations?
Not OP but they are some moderately famous, cheap, fantastic sounding, passive bookshelf speakers.
So I don't really know too much about setting up a system. Right now, I'm mainly planning on using it for music and some gaming/tv from my pc. Have a small room and not a big budget (college student), so following the recommended speakers above I'm planning on getting the Micca MB42X speakers ([link]).
Following this 2.1 setup ([link]), it looks like I'm gonna get this DAC ([link]).
The recommended amp from above, the SMSL SA 60W, is unavailable from most places. Out of these two options which one is the best for their value?
Feel free to recommend me any other amp you think would work for ~$75 or less, it just has to have a 3.5mm input as well as an RCA input. Thanks for the help in advance friends, means a lot.
Yea love the G403!
The Micca's are MB42X (bigger)
What do I need to get this setup working with my desktop PC?
I assume I need these:([link])
Do I need anything else to get this to work for my PC? An AUX cable? Amp? Additional cables? Receiver?
I recall seeing this question before, with responses saying the Logitech speakers are especially designed to work exclusively with the Logitech amp/system it comes with, and would not sound right or could even be damaged by another receiver. I could be wrong though.
I would say just save a bit longer and then you can get a nice set of front bookshelves to go with the Denon. Then you can keep all of the Logitech system together and use in another room or sell it.
Good starters are the Miccas as you may have seen on here. $90
These have a nice matching center, and/or can even be shifted to your surrounds once you slowly add better speakers.
Good luck :)
EDIT: found at least one person saying be careful hooking those speakers up to another amp because they might be different OHM and might damage the amp/receiver the louder you play it.
"The speakers are 4 ohms while the receiver is 8 ohms with a setting for 6 ohms (though the manual says you can use 4 ohm speakers for the front pair). If you were to hook up all of those speakers to 5 channels there is a possibility of overheating/overloading the receiver, and is more likely to happen as you increase the volume. Based on my knowledge via gleaning off of the internet it is not recommended to attempt it."
Denon 530BT and Micca MB42X speakers if you want new.
For $400, I'd say a Denon 530BT and Micca MB42X bookshelf speakers as well as the Micca center.
Micca MB42X :)
Do you have any speakers currently? How big is the room? You want the L/C/R speakers to match So if you're going with a Polk S35 center, you'll need the speakers from that lineup for everything to sound good. With a budget of $500 I'd do this:
Denon X1300 (The Integra doesn't look like it supports 4K nor Atmos or DTS:X)
Micca MB42x bookshelf
You could always go for the Klipsch RP-150M, but you'd give up the center channel and it would cost $100 more.
Being surrounds you don't need to match them with the mains. They also don't need to be anything too special because normally they are only handling the surround effects. If you're a multi-channel stereo/music guy then it becomes more important. I would agree with you that the Bose are probably not the best but they seem to be doing ok. I would consider replacing all of the surrounds with a slightly larger speaker so that you get more of a full range sound out of them. You just need to make sure to re-run your auto setup so that xover points, room correction, ect get set properly Here are some options that I would look at.
Micca MB42X $90 - My go to small speakers. They do very well for their size and will give you much more a full range sound. They tend to be bright on the top end but a good AVR can smooth them out. If you can get two sets I think you'll be surprised what it will sound like.
BIC DV32 $55 - These are good surround speakers if you need something small and want to wall mount. They have built in keyholes which can be very handy. They won't go anywhere near as low as the Micca's but they are a good bit smaller.
Polk S10 $130 - These are on sale from $200 and are getting good reviews. They are worth a look and you can hear them at your local Best box.
pasted the same link woops, meant to add this option too, the fluance are a bit bigger
Here are my thoughts on the AVR
I would go with the Pioneer or the Yamaha because they support 4k. The others do not.
If you don't have 4k or don't plan on upgrading anytime soon and need more channels the Sony 740 might be an option.
I would probably go with the Yamaha as they tend to be tanks, are easy to setup (YPAO), and should serve you well for a while (4k support).
If you're looking for a 2.0 setup you'll want to use larger main speakers so you can get some better low end. This will make an HT environment more satisfying for you. I you're looking on a budget I would look at the BIC DV62 $120 as they will go into the 40's without breaking the bank. If they are too big we can discuss other options. If you don't have space issues and if you have a larger budget you could look at towers if you don't want a sub.
As an alternative I would look at a low cost 2.1 setup too. I find them to be better for HT as you can place the sub for better bass in your room. Here is a example. MiccaMB42X $80 paired with a Dayton Sub 1000 $120 and a Subwoofer cable $10-15. This will get you smaller speakers that should be easier to place up front and a much better low end experience.
thinking about getting the Denon AVR X1300W for $250 from accessories4less. this will be my first receiver and first time building a system so i could use some guidance. my plan was to start with a 2.0 system to use with my sony x900e, ps4 pro, and teac-tn300 record player.
i have been thinking of getting a pair of Dayton Air speakers to get started and planning on useing them as surround speakers down the road when i upgrade to 5.1
is this a good starting point? will it be easy to build on this foundation? could really use some points on where to get my feet wet so i can build over the next few years or so.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
I'm looking to buy some speakers and an amp and a pre-amp for my u turn turntable, and after doing some research, I decided on the Micca MB42X, the Lepy LP-2020A, and the Beheinger microphone pp40. But then someone suggested to me that I should instead of buying a new amp and a preamp, I should buy a used receiver at craigslist, but since I don't really understand a lot about audio technology, it would be really helpful if someone could go over my local craigslist ([link]) and see if there are any good deals and how they compare to the amp/pre-amp I was gonna buy.
Thanks in advance.
THIS + THIS + (optionally) THIS = $205
This is my exact setup at my desk. Sounds ridiculously good.
Good to know, thank you.
Is there any value in a subwoofer when I'm on a second level apartment and someone is going to be below the floor? I'm just wondering if it adds noticable value for me, the more likely it is to cause issues to the unit below. Then again, I'm not 100% sure if I'm just paranoid about apartment noise leaking.
Also, any opinions on having 4 of these vs two for the fronts and more specialized rear types like these listed in the Zeos reccomendations? Fromt what I can tell the Miccas are solid, just wasn't sure about their application in rear speakers.
I'm in an apartment currently so I don't know if surrounds will work with mounting/cables etc.
I was thinking these for the fronts and maybe the backs, but the guide says to possibly get specialty rears. I'd imaging putting them on stands is the easiest way to get them setup with restrictions on mounting on drywall.
Or these noted for being good rears
Here are some thoughts I had
What's the overall budget for this upgrade? I'm only asking because you're going to need help everywhere and you might be better off looking at a 5.1 speaker set
You could also look at a set of mains and a decent sub to get the most impact out of your money. I'm thinking about a set of Micca MB42X $90, a Dayton Sub $120 and subwoofer cable $10 - This should really change your system without breaking the bank. You'll get more out of this vs just changing the mains.
What are you using for an AVR? Does it have autocorrect/setup as a feature? That can actually make a huge difference in your setup. If your mains are distorting that bad then you probably don't have the xover set properly IMO. They are probably getting too much low end for their size. I would look into this.
The sub you have is only a 6.5" and will not give you that true deep not experience IMO. A new sub will make a huge difference.
Would it be worth getting floorstanders...IMO no it wouldn't. You would be better off getting better sats/books and a new sub before you got floorstanders. If you wanted to scrap your current setup and go with a 2.0 then yes look at floorstanders. Otherwise I would go with either a 2.1 upgrade to your existing system or a new set.
Checkout Zeos guide for soundbar killers
I set something like this up a long time ago. I used a set of speakers$90 (Pioneers would also work but they are larger and heavier), stereo amplifier $120 and an overhead cart. No I realize that this is over your budget but you could step down to an SA50 $70 and still get close to your budget.
I like that particular cart because of the folding wing tables. You can put the speakers up on those so they aren't right on top of on another. While not optimal it used to work pretty decent if you aim the speakers out towards the corners of the room with the cart toward the front of the room.
The other way to go would be a soundbar that you could put on top of the cart. If you want to discuss that more let me know.
If I where to buy these Micca MB42X speakers and this Monoprice Subwoofer what equipment would I need to make it all work?
If your budget can stretch to these then get them: [link]
You will need a small amplifier to drive them though: [link]
You need to buy speakers with an integrated amplifier or buy an amplifier separately.
Example: the Micca MB42X needs an amplifier, but the Micca PB42X can be plugged directly into the motherboard.
You'll need two sets of male-to-male left/right RCA audio cable, one from the turntable to the phono preamp and the other from the phono preamp to the amplifier. You'll also need speaker wire from the speakers to the amp.
You need WAY better peripherals!
Let's start with the audio. For speakers, you want to go with Micca MB42X (Amazon link) or the newer Micca PB42X (Amazon link). If you wanted to go even better, get the JBL LSR305 (Amazon link) or even the larger/better JBL LSR308 (Amazon link). For headphones, you want to go with Sennheiser PC 363D (Amazon link) for gaming or any of the Sennheiser HD headphones for music. You also will need a DAC for your audio so get a Schiit Modi 2 (Amazon link) or you could setup a Schiit stack which is a Schiit DAC like the Modi 2 and a Schiit amp like the Schiit Magni 2 (Amazon link. Do NOT buy any audio equipment made by a computer company. Buy from an audio company. You don't have to believe me, check out /r/BudgetAudiophile /r/Audiophile /r/Audio /r/Headphones.
For your monitor, you really want at least a 144 Hz 1440 monitor (preferably with G-Sync) since you have a nice GPU. I have the Asus - ROG SWIFT PG278Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor. Any of these monitors would suit you. I'd recommend checking out the Asus - MG278Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor.
For your keyboard and mouse, you don't want Razer. For your keyboard, you want a mechanical keyboard. I have a Corsair RGB K65, which isn't made anymore, now it's called a Vengeance K65 which has a Cherry MX Red switch. Figure out which switch would suit your style and go from there. If you aren't sure what the differences between switches are, check out The complete guide to mechanical keyboard switches for gaming and How to Choose the Best Mechanical Keyboard (and Why You'd Want To). Personally, I think the Cherry MX Red is a great all around switch. I use it for gaming and typing. Check out keyboards by good companies like Ducky. You can also check out /r/mechmarket /r/MechanicalKeyboards /r/keyboards. For your mouse, again, there are better mice out there than those by Razer. I use a Logitech G303 because I didn't want a mouse to have a million buttons that I could accidentally hit while gaming. The Logitech - G300S Wired Optical Mouse and the Corsair - KATAR Wired Optical Mouse look good.
Remember to always keep an eye on /r/buildapcsales.
Any other questions?
how compatible are these micca speakers [link] - it says: two different impedances so im not sure if the wattage is in refferance to at 4 ohms or at 8 ohms (impedance: 4-8 ohms - Sensitivity: 85dB 1W/1M - power handling: 75 watts (each))
and a sony strse391... this is the page in the manual that says the watts and impudence [link]
There's a lot of things going on here but most of it is probably over your $200 budget. Even most entry level receivers are just starting at that price point but you could save money but getting one refurbished. I'm also unclear about how you hooked up a subwoofer (which subwoofer?) to that receiver as it has no pre-outs. Did you use the line in on the back of the sub in parallel with your main speakers? I have done this with my desktop setup and there's no way I wouldn't notice the difference from adding a sub, even a cheap 8" sony or polk.
To answer your question though, a speaker upgrade would probably be your best bet with favorites like the Miccas or Pioneers immediately coming to mind. The great thing about both is that they have matching center channels to upgrade to in the future.
I've been using a pair of Micca MB42X's with Micca MB42X-C Center Channel Speaker for my 5.1 setup. No complaints.
However, I've been given a pair of Phantom v2's and a Paradigm CC-170 Center Speaker.
The Paradigm set is probably over a decade old, but since the speakers are bigger, would I experience "enhanced" sound? Basically, I'm wondering if I should swap the well reviewed Micca set for an older, less known, but bigger, Paradigm set. Any input would be appreciated.
Looking to buy these:
What else do I need for everything to work? Soundcard? Will this work? [link]
What about cables?
Yes. Don't buy the Mackies, they are neither good studio monitors nor good value. Instead, some Micca MB42Xs and a small amplifier such as the SMSL SA-36A would be far better in performance and fidelity to the input. Also some good 100% copper speaker wire is a good idea to use for a low resistance connection between the amplifier and speakers. Then all you need to hook up is a source via two RCA, which can be through a 3.5mm to RCA splitter if your preferred audio source's output is a 3.5mm jack.
See if your TV has an Audio Out connection that will let you run external speakers. If so, get a pair of bookshelf speakers and an amp. I'm partial (As is most of this sub) to the Micca MB42Xs. You should be able to connect it with either RCA cables, or an RCA to 3.5mm cable. Check out Zeos' guide to 2.0 systems, then I'd get as much amp as your budget would allow, so in your case there's only a couple options for $50 and under. I'm running a pair of the MB42Xs with the Lepai amp, and it's got plenty of power going for it, but something with a little more breathing room power-wise would be better.
You need to elaborate just a bit. $200-$300 for the two main speakers? If so then: [link] or [link].
If you mean something a little less (or 3.0) then Micca is really the only acceptable option in your budget.
Alternatively, you can get yourself some good bookshelf speakers and an amp. I've got a pair of Micca MB42x's and an smsl q5 and it's way better than any "computer" speakers I've heard. Of course, if you don't need the ability to use a remote, you can do it for much cheaper. Have a look at /r/zeos for some detailed buying guides.
The MB42X costs $30 less than the PB42x.
They are still $89.99 on Amazon.com.
Polk CS1 for my center.
Micca MB42X for front left and front right. Polk PSW10 for my sub. Running everything through an older Yamaha receiver but don't have the model handy right now.
$500 is like the bare minimum unless you want to utilize Craigslist/goodwill (which I did for most of my stuff, spent ~$350 on stuff worth ~$900).
Receiver: Denon S510 for $170, factory refurb.
Fronts: If you have Amazon Prime, the Micca MB42X for $90 and the matching center for $80.
Sub: Dayton 8" for $100
Rears: Dayton Air's for $60
Standard sticky passives would be:
If you have time maybe consider building your own (and give as a mothers day gift to your mom) with:
Gentlemen I need some advice on what I should purchase for my room setup.
Room Size: 11ft x 10ft
Budget: I want to spend about $300 but I can spend $350.
I am looking for a 2.1 computer setup. Preferably bookshelf speakers. I've been looking at these products...
Dayton Audio Sub-1000
I'll be using them most of the time about an arm's length away. But I also want to use them sat about 7ft away.
My source will be my desktop PC, if possible I would also like to use my phone. I'll use them mostly for music consumption. I listen to Hip hop and heavy bass instrumental.
If you are only interested in surround sound, any of those options will work well.
However, if your primary purpose will be listening to music and video editing, I suggest you get a pair of bookshelf speakers and an amp. This will, in most cases, provide superior sound quality over box-set surround systems. I'm not sure about availability to you, but the Micca MB42X paired with the Lepai LP-2020A+ is a popular option. Such an option will allow you to upgrade as you go and swap speakers and amps (which would be much harder with a box-set).
First off there is no 1.0 setup. The most basic setup is a 2.0 with your main channels (R and L speakers). If you get a 5.1+ channel AVR then you can expand to a center channel. If you get an AVR and only hook up the center all you will get is dialogue and it will sound terrible. That is if the AVR even allows you to do this.
You're asking if you should go with a 2.0 or 3.0...well if you're hurting for space I would go 2.0 first. The center is there to anchor the dialogue to the screen for your off center seating positions. Without if you're closer to one of the main speakers the dialogue could sound off. The center speakers brings that all back to the screen. However, with a small room like you have I don't know if you need it. Putting speakers on either side of the screen would probably do just fine. Of course you can always add one in later provided you get an AVR vs stereo amplifier.
If you do go 3.0 you'll get mod1x orbs...well you could but I wouldn't unless you plan on using a subwoofer in the system. The Orbs, while cool looking, only put out a limited low end. By themselves they will lack the low end to sound rich and full. I can appreciate trying to save space but I think without a sub they are going to be too small. Something like a set of Micca MB42X $90 are about as small as you want to go while still getting decent bass. If you can up the budget or want to look around eBay the DefTech ProMonitor 1000's might be something to consider.
Sure, let me know if there's anything specific you want to know.
Projector screen material (DIY Carl's blackout cloth)
I have a windows 10 PC hooked up to the receiver which runs the OpenPHT plex client. Then I have a separate plex server
You're gonna spend $600 on a center but not upgrade the tiny ass cubes for front Left and Right?
You'd be better off replacing all 3 of your fonts instead now.
Grab [link] and [link] as a hold over. THe fronts can be moved to surrounds when you eventually upgrade those
Even under $300 you could go 2.0 new easily.
Again I thing you could do better on the TV but anyways for sound:
Option 1 (aka put more $ to TV): $658 + Tax and Shipping
Front L/R [link]
Option 2: Just Under $1,000
Option 3 $1500
Here you go. Feel free to ask me any questions. I selected an IPS monitor with speakers, but you probably want to get speakers or a headset/headphones too. If you need speakers, the best speakers under $100 are the Micca MB42X. If you want a good gaming headset, check out the Sennheiser gaming headsets, like the PC 363D. The Corsair case comes with either white, red, blue, or orange LEDs. The keyboard/mouse combo comes with either blue, red, or green backlit LEDs.
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Canadian noob in over my head here. Looking to start a set up for strictly music listening at this point. I've been looking through the side bar over at /budgetaudiophile and think I'd like to get the SX6 or Micca MB42X bookshelf speakers to pair with this turntable.
My understanding as of now is that I'd need a suitable amp to make it work. It would be appreciated if anyone could clarify and make any recommendations on and amp that would work for this setup.
I would want a center channel speaker as it anchors the sound to the screen. With just a stereo pair you are fine if you sit dead center but if you move more than a few degrees off center the "phantom" center channel drops and most of what you get will be in whatever speaker you are closest to. If you went a little higher then I would opt for the same receiver but these speakers instead...
L/R $90: [link]
Center channel $80: [link]
You may find that perfect as is or may decide to add a subwoofer in the future but either way the sound will be much better than TV speakers and better than just a stereo pair.
would be a good starter set for 2.1
I recently bought the Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers, which I have 16 gauge speaker wire for. But I cant figure out where they are supposed to plug in on my FiiO E10K USB DAC. It seems that the DAC only has a 3.5 mm jack, anyway to get around this?
Thank you in advance.
If I purchase these Micca's, will my Presonus Scarlett 2i2 be a sufficient Amp, or will I need to spring for the SMSL SA60 as well?
If you're going with a set of passive speakers you need an amp and speaker wire to make the speakers work. If you're going with a set of powered speakers then you should be good.
For speakers, if space is an issue, you should get the Micca MB42X then, as they're much smaller than the JBL LSR305s. Or you could even just get the Micca MB42. I have the JBL LSR305s and a fairly small desk and they fit. I have a 23-inch monitor and one speaker on each side of the monitor. You may also want to get a DAC for your speakers, like the Schiit Modi 2 / (Amazon link) or a DAC/amp combo, like the Schiit Fulla / (Amazon link) or FiiO E10K (Amazon link) or AudioQuest - DragonFly (Amazon link).
For headphones/headsets, you have many choices. If you are a gamer, you should check out Sennheiser's gaming headsets. If you don't plan on gaming and just want to listen to music, check out the Sennheiser HD series. They can be found much cheaper on Amazon, eBay, or other various retailers. I personally have the Sennheiser PC363D headset for gaming and unfortunately paid about $240 for them, not even 6 months ago. Right after I bought them, the price on Amazon dropped dramatically, to around $130. I just checked on Amazon and now they're back up to around $219, but if you watch them, they will probably drop again like they did before. Or you can check on eBay. Sennheiser does have cheaper models though (all of these are around $150 or less) like the brand new Sennheiser GSP300 / (Amazon link), Sennheiser GSP350 / (Amazon link), or the Sennheiser GAME ONE / (Amazon link). I have tried a few different brands and Sennheiser is my favorite for performance. I also have the Sennheiser HD 598 SE / (Amazon link) for listening to music and the Sennheiser RS120 II wireless headphones (Sennheiser RS 120 (older model) (Amazon link)) for my TV and got them for my parents too. If you live in a place where you can't have your TV or music too loud, the wireless headphones are very helpful. Overall, I use the Sennheiser PC 363D headset the most and it sounds awesome. If you're a gamer, get a gaming headset, or if you just listen to music, the HD series are great too.
>I recently bought some Micca MB42x and they're on their way but while cleaning up my garage I found a pair of Pioneer SP-BS21s (safely in a box).
How does this happen? Drunken Amazon?
I've had these.
They're pretty popular on /r/budgetaudiophile. They sound good, don't really need a sub unless you're a basehead.
Micca MB42X powered by an SMSL SA50.
Here is what I would look at for a basic entry level 2.1 setup. You'll also need wires and cables to connect everything together.
AVR - Denon S510BT refurb $190
Speakers - Micca MB42X $90
Sub - Dayton Sub 1000 $120
If you can hold off on the sub you could upgrade to the my "level 2" speakers the Boston CS26 $105 ea for a better sound. The larger main driver will help on the low end but you'll still want to add in a sub down the road. These speakers will sound better than the Micca's but you won't get the low end like you will with the Micca+Dayton combo.
Get the LSR 305s. I have them and am glad I listened to people on here. They sound amazing! If you really don't want to spend that much, get the Micca MB42 or Micca MB42x, which also save a lot of space.
As for getting a DAC, you mentioned you already had an Asus sound card added to your PC, so why would you also want another one? Any sound card you add/install to a PC, has a built-in DAC. This is why people are told not to bother wasting money on a sound card and just get a DAC, which produce better quality audio. If you really want to get a DAC, here are a few good ones: Schiit Modi 2 or Modi 2 Uber, [AudioQuest DragonFly JDS LABS ODAC
Do you use headphones at all? If so, you really want to get a DAC and headphone amp combo, not just a DAC. Here are some great examples: Schiit Fulla DAC and amp, FiiO E10K, AudioQuest DragonFly, and Micca OriGen+.
If you have access to websites like eBay and Craigslist, check on there first, as you can find cheap used equipment on there.
AVR - Denon S510 refurb $190 This AVR will give you 4k compatibility where the RX-V377 won't.
Speakers - Micca MB42X $90 Good entry level bookshelf speakers especially when paired with a sub.
Misc - Speaker stands $40, Sub cable $13 (20ft), and speaker wire/HDMI cables.
This setup gets very close to your budget and gives you 4k compatibility. You can add in a center as there's a matching one for the books or upgrade the front three and move the MB42X's to the rear.
These with this, older models but should be great for that price range
Ahh, I was going to get two of these [link]
They have low frequency.
Then this receiver [link]
So all I would need to do then is get some copper speaker wire and figure out how to connect the two, then get a coax (not sure for what) and then what type of cable to connect the receiver to the tv?
$347, so it's over your budget a bit, but this is the way I'd go.
Then I would save another $100 and grab one of these down the line:
I just moved from the Klipsch Promedia 2.1's after they died. I couldn't find anything that I liked so I built my own 2.1, and wow does it sound way better than the Klipsch.
A cheap 2.1 will be less than cheap towers. here is what I would look at.
AVR - Denon S510 BT refurb $190 Just get an AVR, will run a 2.1 better than a stereo amp because of the sub preout. This unit has bluetooth and digital inputs. 4k ready so if you decide to upgrade you're good.
Speakers - Micca MB42X $90 I know a lot of folks don't like them but I have had great luck with these speakers. Small but they give out a big sound with proper power. When you upgrade move them to the rear and they will do just fine there too.
Sub - Dayton Sub 1000 $120 Smallest sub you want for HT use but still small enough not to take up the whole room.
Speaker stands $40 Gets the speakers up and out from the TV so make it sound much better. I'm a big fan of stands.
Speaker wire $11 Cheap wire but it will get the job done just fine.
HDMI cables $8 You'll need one for a source and one for the TV input so you'll have one left as an extra or for another source.
The difference is size, power and inputs. A full receiver is like 18"w x 4"H x 14" D in size, generally offers more output power for the speakers and has multiple inputs.
If you're a rap/bass guy you'll most likely need a sub for this system or large speakers.
I would go with this.
Amp - Lepai 2020 $25 It's small but it should work. Most importantly it's very low cost.
Sub - Dayton Sub 1000 $120
Speakers - Fluance SX6 $80 (the light color is on sale) or Micca MB42x $90
Yep the amp is the weak point of this system. However, for a bedroom it should do fine.
Good on the projector, at least as far as I know. I don't research them much as I am not in a place where I can use one. That was a nice receiver in it's day but I think, were this me, I'd go in a slightly different direction.
Receiver $180: [link]
L/R mains $90: [link]
Center $80: [link]
I know that leaves you without surrounds or a subwoofer which kinda sucks right now. This will give you a much more modern receiver that you can use as your control center and much better L/C/R speakers to build on.
When your budget recovers get a Dayton Audio SUB-1200: [link] and if you want, a pair of Micca MB42 speakers ($60/pr) for surrounds.
It will take longer this way but you'll end up, in the long run, with a better system that will stay with you longer.
I don't really know how to judge a package like that. I have only had one htib back in like 1999. You might try and look for a htib 2016 buying guide on Cnet. I would guess most people here and elsewhere would try and talk you out of it, like I will try to do.
One thing to consider is that the actual driver in htib speakers are tiny. If you rip off the cover it's often a 2 inch speaker hidden under the cloth/grille. So when you want to hear an action movie loud, you're at distortion level volume in a flash. A pieced together 5.1 is really a step up. With your possible new budget in play, you could gain quite a bit.
Speakers, 2 pair:
$596.98. A nicer amp, all speakers have upgraded crossover for better sound, same subwoofer. This will completely outclass any htib anywhere in the vicinity of your budget. And in a couple years, you can upgrade speakers if you want.
Wireless headphones aren't going to be great in that price range. I'd get these (or these for cheaper, same speakers but no built in crossover so slightly worse sound) with an inexpensive amp like this or this
I'd get this:
Receiver $190: [link]
Subwoofer $120: [link]
Depends how you want to go about it, but I just got done setting up my own 2.0 setup that I chose rather than a soundbar.
Speakers ($90): [link]
AMP ($130): [link]
Banana plugs (x2, $25): [link]
The great thing about the amp is that it comes with a remote, allowing control of the volume, like you would get with a soundbar.
With a total cost of $245, I would say this is your bare minimum startup cost for 2.0.
So where to go from there? The amp has sub out, so you can easily expand to 2.1 if you want. Anything beyond that would require buying an actual receiver.
No, what you should do is spring for just a little more and get these: [link]
I have the Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers and Polk Audio PSW10 10-Inch Powered Subwoofer. I read that this was a great amp, and it also had a "subwoofer out" port on the back, which I use to power my sub. So currently, I'm running the red/white speakers cables out and a subwoofer cable out.
There are 4 inputs (USB, Aux, optical, & coaxial). My input currently is Aux out from my PC to the amp, and all inputs will power the speakers. See this picture.
So I can't plug an Amp into the subwoofer out for the Q5, since it's already being used. You mentioned that the Q5 becomes a DAC if I use a USB or TOSLINK cable, would you recommend going this route, instead of using a AUX cable for my speakers?
The headphones I'm thinking of getting are the Philips Fidelio X2's. Do you think an amp/dac is even necessary for those? Or would the front of the PC headphones out jack be good enough?
Hey Zeos - I've got a couple of questions:
I'm looking for a very compact desktop sub to go with two Micca MB42X's and an SMSL SA50. I saw an earlier recommendation for the Earthquake Sound FF6.5 but that's a bit outside my budget of $300 CAD. Would the PSB SubSeries 100 work for me?
My room is 12'x13'. Accompanying the desktop setup is a home theatre setup that consists of two Elac B5's, an Elac C5 and a Yamaha RX-V381. Do you feel this setup would benefit from a sub? According to the specifications for the Elac B5's their frequency response goes down to 46 Hz, is it only worthwhile to get a sub that's goes considerably lower than that? For instance, the Dayton Audio SUB-1000 goes down to 30 Hz whereas the Dayton Audio SUB-800 only goes down to 40 Hz. Does this make the latter obsolete because the margins are so small? What sub would you recommend for a room this size if at all? Again, I'd prefer a more compact sub if at all possible.
Can a schiit magni 2 drive a pair of bookshelf speakers such as the Micca MB4X2?
Get those speakers with that amplifier and you'll have great sound. These are recommended entry level speakers and with a decent amp like the one linked you'll have a lot better audio than $30 computer speakers. Not sure about setups less than this budget because they're really not that great sounding or at least not worth upgrading from your cheap setup.
I don't know if this will be seen, but I am trying to figure out my first set-up and am a little confused about receivers/phono preamp.
Would this line-up work?
Would I need the Yamaha receiver to make these speakers work? If so, should I get a turntable with or without a built-in preamp?
It looks like a nice, vintage model so I thought I would snatch it up and use it long-term but I want to understand how it fits into a system. Thanks!
Great, excellent stuff. I am in Finland until the end of the month so I apologize for the late reply. I'll have to review this more thoroughly tonight.
I have contacted the seller of the PSB towers (initially low-balled last night and today I told him I had learned a bit more and will pay asking price lol).
That combo you mention sounds like a great alternative to a portable speaker in terms of the quality it will deliver while not being too much of an issue to move around the house here and there. One concern I have is that the Micca doesn't seem to be available in Canada for that bargain of a price it is listed for on Amazon.com ([link])
Assuming this or a similar new speaker will be around ~130 CAD or more (with the exchange rate, shipping rate and the seemingly arbitrarily jacked up percentage Canadians always pay), should I also search for a used bookshelf speaker? There seems to be a lot available for this price range, albeit probably less quality than the Micca MB42X.
I fully understand your point about vinyl being used less frequently than the ultra-convenient digital option. I've never owned one and only used friends' and roommates' in times past, but I always thought the act of putting on a record was a fun ritual and perhaps it was only the quality of the speakers, but the sound seemed different. Plus they can look great (along with a small vinyl collection) and act as a fun thing for guests. Do you think this justifies it or will I likely quickly surrender to the convenience of digital 95% of the time too?
Edit: To my question about alternatives to Micca, I just found this:
Sound Dynamics RTS-3 - $110
Here's my space. Let me know what you think. As you can tell a while ago when I had Pioneer floorstanding speakers and my setup (with the sofas) wasn't the best since it blocked the left speaker. I didn't want to raise those speakers too high. Would it be wise to hang bookshelf speakers and mount them on the wall by the screen or would that cause the screen to shake from the speakers that I get which may be too powerful?
Here's what I was thinking:
Bookshelf speakers: [link]
Rears: I could get matching rears like above or get these: [link]
OR I could get this Pioneer setup.
I would go with a 2.1 setup. Gurueuey is giving you some good advice for an entry level system.
Speakers - MB42X $90
Sub Dayton 1200 $150 + sub cable $12
MISC - Stands $50 so you can move them out from the TV and off of the wall.
This will put you right at or slightly over your $300 budget but will give you a nice budget system to build around.
I had the Mackie CR3 for a bit but switched over to some bookshelf speakers and an amp. I liked the mackies but they are a bit flat and really lacked the punch and color that I was looking for. I personally use the Micah MB42X paired with the SMSL Q5 Pro.
Check out this guy, he knows his stuff. [link]
Yep it's the same receiver. Accessories4Less is pretty much just an awesome store. It's a solid receiver. Can't really go wrong there for your first setup. You could pair it with these Micca MB42X's for $89, or go for these Fluance SX6-BK bookshelves at $130. Both are solid recommendations, and you won't go wrong with either choice - just pick which suits your budget best.
Can the Soundblaster X7 drive the Micca MB42X speakers?
Sorry for asking something so basic, but I know fuck all about speakers, and just want a decent set of 'bookshelf' speakers to supplement my PC sound system when I just don't want to wear the HD650s.
My computer doesn't output sound to the aux ports (sounds fine through DP on my monitor). I plan on setting up some speakers w/ amp, should I get a sound card (would need to be pcie, my GPU covers the pci slots) or a dac? Can somebody recommend what to buy, relatively inexpensive?
Speakers that I plan to buy
Amp that I plan to buy
But let me know if there's a better combo for the money.
Ok so you're going to need an amp or AVR to output to the speakers. You'll also need some speakers and a sub to make your 2.1 setup. I think at this point I would avoid craigslist until you get a bit more familiar with audio gear. However, if you want to try to pick up some used gear always have them hook it up to make sure it works. Look for foam rot on the surrounds. Inspect the drivers for problems.
That being said here is what I would do.
AVR - Yamaha HTR-3067 refurb $150 I like the AVR route because you get all the inputs you need. You also get a dedicated sub out which makes adding one in a breeze. You also get more control over your speakers as you can cross them over and adjust the level at one location.
Speakers - Micca MB42X $90 great entry level speaker especially paired with a sub
Sub - Dayton Sub 1000 $120 or the Monoprice 9723 12" $110 +shipping should do nicely. The monoprice was just named the best budget sub by wirecutter.
I recently got these Micca MB42X speakers and I'm happy with them. I have them paired with this BIC America F12 sub and they sound great together.
You have a very modest budget. $300 will get you a 2.0 system you can build on. $450 would make it a 2.1 system. For an additional $140 you can flesh this out to a full 5.1 system.
For about $550 you can assemble a decent 5.1 system all at once.
There are cheaper ways to do it but quality suffers and I consider it false economy at that point.
For $300 I'd get this:
[link] and these: [link]
Good, solid choices that will give you a base system to then build on as you can.
the logitech is as far from studio monitors as it gets... so if those are your only choices go for the Mackie CR4. If you can spare another 40$ you could get the recommended system with the Miccas and this cheap amp
From /r/audiophile's daily purchase advice thread:
>In an effort to cut down on some of the repetitive questions, here is the absolutely cheapest system we are willing to recommend.
Are these the ones you're talking about? Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers
Get the Micca MB42X. They're $89 USD so I'm guessing that should be around 78 euro. You can add an amp like this one, which would be right within your budget, or if you want to save up and spend a little more money, go with this or this. If you want to add a sub later, I've had a lot of people recommend Dayton Audio powered subs. I hope this helps. I'm in the same boat and have been asking tons of questions the past few days.
These are actually really good speakers for their price range. You will need an amp, though. The cheapest decent option would be the Lepai LP-2024. I ran with that amp for a long time, and it sounds beautiful.
If the energy's are too pricey these are another great option
Crap my bad. The Micca Covo are out of stock. These are the bigger brother version if you are still interested. Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers (Black) [link]
I'm not an audiophile but I got tired of overpriced little "computer speakers".
For my setup I got a pair of nice bookshelf speakers off Craigslist, similar to the Micca MB42X but used. Here's a link [link]
And paired them with a $25 Lepai Tripath LP-2020A+ mini Amp. You can get more features but this little guy is such good bang for the buck. One thing that would be nice is a headphone jack. Here's a review [link]
A few feet of speaker wire and a 3.5mm Aux cable and everything works.
Here are some options to consider.
AVR & Speaker set
AVR - Denon S500BT Refurb $180 Basic 5.2 avr to get you up and going.
Speakers - Pick one: Klipsch HD-300 $300, Yamaha SP 1800 $135 (you could afford to upgrade the mains/center with this as the sub alone is $100), Energy take 5 $315, Monoprice Select $140 (again upgrades are possible), Fluance AV5HTB $200 + Yamaha Sub $100, Boston 2300 set $200 + Yamaha or a Dayton 12" bundle $250 (you will need speaker wire and a sub cable with several of these so keep that in mind).
AVR & Separate speakers - AVR will be the same as above. You need to get speaker wire and a sub cable for these setups.
JBL loft - 2 sets of JBL Loft 30 $60 ea ($120) + Loft 20 center $65 + Dayton Sub1000 $120
BIC - 2 sets of DV32 $55 ($110) + Center $50 + Dayton sub1000, MLogan D300 $150 or Energy ESW-C10 $150
They are okay for a small room. I'd prefer the Fluance set over those. With tower speakers you can always toe them in to bring the sweet spot a little closer in if necessary. That being said, with a $500 budget I'd likely do this:
You have a nice pair of speakers that you can get the matching center for at some point or, if you want to move to much higher quality mains these will make great surrounds. Either way you have a sub that you can keep for decades, the STF-2 is the entry level elite sub.
[link] (they are also linked in the OP)
I have a set in the bathroom and they do really well with warmer tones IMO, so great for a turntable setup. Other than that I really like the Dayton Audios [link]. They do well enough for me, but I just use those in the garage while working on stuff.
Would love to get some help trying to start my living room audio system. I have a 4k tv, ps4, dvd player, (eventually 4k bluray player) and cable box, to get audio from so I will likely need a 4k receiver.
I think my best bet is to get a receiver and a nice pair of speakers (i'd prefer floor speakers because I like their look but idk if it fits in my budget) and then upgrade to a sub and extra speakers in the future.
My budget is probably around $400 (although if this turns out anything like my PC i will easily be talked up on my budget).
Below is what I was originally thinking but if there are some nice floor standing speakers that are better that might be good.
Micca Speakers from OP
Denon 4k AVR
Thanks in advance!
Depends on whether you purchase powered or passive speakers. Powered speakers do not require an external amp, passive speakers do.
Micca MB42X Speakers
SMSL SA-50 Amplifier
You need this cable to connect the PC audio to the amp.
And this speaker wire to go from the amp to the speakers.
Plug the 3.5mm into the audio port on the back of the PC. Plug the red and white RCA plugs into the "Audio In" ports on the back of the amp.
Place the speakers and amp where you want them and measure how much speaker wire you need. Cut two pieces of speaker wire the appropriate length for each speaker (4 pieces in total).
You'll have to strip the insulation off the speaker wire. Very simple, you can just cut around the wire with a razor blade. Strip about 1/2" of insulation off each end of each length of speaker wire. Twist the ends tightly to prevent stray wire strands (the ends really should be tinned, but that isn't imperative).
Now you'll unscrew the plastic nut on the connections on the back of the amp and on each speaker. Just loosen it far enough to expose the small hole drilled through the side of the post. Insert the speaker wires, then tighten down the nuts. They need to be pretty snug. You don't want any movement of the speaker wire in the holes in the connectors. The wire you put in the black post on the speaker goes in the black post on the amp, and likewise for the reds. The connectors on the amp are labeled "R" and "L." Self-explanatory, left speaker wires go in the connectors marked "L," etc.
Turn the volume knob on the amp to zero, turn on the amp, then increase the volume. Leave Windows volume at 100, use the amp to control volume.
If you don't want to mess with cutting speaker wire, you can purchase premade cables like these: [link]
Those have banana plugs installed, so all you have to do is plug them into the ends of the connector posts like a standard audio jack. Do whatever you are most comfortable with, but cutting your own speaker wire is dead simple, and you get 50 feet of it for $8, as opposed to $35 for the premade cables (you'll need two, as they are sold individually).
I bought those Miccas for my dad for Christmas, and they surprised the hell out of me. Those little speakers have punch. They sound fantastic, and they are not lacking for bass. There are better options, of course, but those Miccas and an inexpensive amp like the SMSL SA-50 would be a damn good setup for not a lot of money. Down the road you could add a subwoofer like the Martin Logan Dynamo 300 and I think you'd be very happy.
On Amazon, those speakers and the SMSL SA-36 amp would cost $140. Add in the cables you need, and the total is $152.08.
RCA to 3.5mm Cable
Hello, I am not really sure what type of amplifier I should purchase for beginner setup. I recently purchased a Micca MB42X for $50. I plan on purchasing another speaker as well. I need help on what type of amplifier I need to buy, along with, what wires I should purchase as well. I have allotted roughly $80 towards the budget of the amplifier. I plan on using Chromecast audio to stream music.
[link] is this what I need to purchase to make the Chromecast compatible with an amplifier?
From my research, the SMSL SA-60 appears to be a good amplifier to purchase with these speakers.
Also, what speaker wire should I purchase?
Any advice or tips are appreciated, thanks.
they are in the header for this thread near the bottom
Great balance between sound quality and noise. Add a dedicated subwoofer if you need lower than 60Hz output.
Micca MB42X bookshelf speakers plus a dedicated amp would be a go to solution for around $150-175.
I have a pair of MB42's are the same as the MB42X but cheaper as they lack a crossover.
They work great both for computer use and playing music in my experience.
True, would any speaker work with the USB? For example: [link]
Alright, well I'm actually not as familiar with passive speakers as I am with powered, but these get recommended every now and again, and these look pretty nice for around $100.
Thank you! I am looking at Monoprice right now. I want to make this as easy as possible for the person I'm getting this for and that seems to be banana plugs. Will the amp and speakers both accept those?
I'm following an online guide for setting this up, but will these PVC wires or these clear wires be the exact same? (They cost differently, but have nearly identical descriptors which makes no sense to me.)
Also these are the banana plugs.
I'm asking because the Z Review seems to say that banana plugs won't work, but his look like the close together kind. However, the back of his also look different than the picture listed here on Amazon.
Again, thank you so much for the feedback. I am thinking I'm ready to go ahead with this and feel much better that I'm not giving an amp and speakers they can't plug in!
For speakers, I chose a 3.0 set-up, if you wish to do 3.1, 2.1, or 2.0, and I can change my suggestions.
Here's what I can do. Your options get much, much better if your budget were to increase to say....$500.
L/R Speakers: Micca
Center Speaker: Micca
Subwoofer: Buy a Dayton SUB-1000 when you can afford it.
I recently was given a pair of bookshelf speakers, Micca MB42X, and want to use them with my computer and when I have people over (via an auxiliary cable.)
What are the differences in the sound produced among the following amps?
Hey guys, trying to lay out the components I need to make a nice 5.1 system. I currently have a 2.0 system with the Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers (as recommended in these daily threads) and a Yamaha RX-V379BL 5.1-Channel Network A/V Receiver with Bluetooth that someone here recommended to me a few months ago. My questions are:
If I wanted to upgrade to a 5.1 system, would another pair of the Miccas be a solid choice for the LR and RR speakers?
For stands for those two rears, how do these VideoSecu 2 Heavy Duty Adj Satellite Speaker Stands MS07B M99 look?
The Micca MB42X-C Center Channel Speaker looks to be a quality (matching) center speaker, is it?
And finally, I would like to purchase a subwoofer for the system. I don't need anything crazy powerful as I live in an apartment complex, just want the full experience. Recommendations?
Thank you all very much in advance!!
It's no problem! I think you will enjoy the heck out of them! Just for clarification...it's these: [link]
Try this seller, if it ships to malta, it does ship to my tiny corner of EU
/r/audiophile and /r/hometheatre would never, ever suggest Logitech. That stuff is practically junk.
Hell, the cheapest setup /r/audiophile recommends is a MB42X / 2x LSR305.
Rule of thumb: Avoid HTIAB. You get what you pay for.
Receiver $120: [link]
L/R speakers $80: [link]
This will sound considerably better than the TV speakers. You can expand it as your budget recovers.
> micca mb40x
Maybe they meant MB42X?
$200 for speakers for a HT? I would run a 2.1 with the following. If you're in a small apt then you can run without a center. The sub will make more of an impact than a center would at this point.
Speakers -Micca MB42x $80
Sub - Dayton Sub 800 $115
Do you have an amplifier already?
[link] $119(in stock 6-25)
It sounds to me that you're looking for something fairly basic. If you'd like to save that money for future stuff, I recommend the following:
I use these, my SO uses them, and her Father who does a lot of personal sound editing uses them. For their price I highly recommend them, they're awesome. They produce great highs and lows for the price. They do, however, require an amp.
For ease of use/future proofing I would say pair the Rokits with this:
Can't really go wrong and way under budget. If you want to simplify it even further you could pop these on your desk:
Compared to the Rokit's they're not my favorite though; their lows/bass are nowhere near as good.
Awesome! Thank you for the step by the step process but I am annoyed that I have two places to adjust the volume instead of one since the powered speakers come with a built-in amp and volume knob. I would prefer to just have to adjust the volume on my receiver only with some passive speakers hooked up to it. I'm thinking of getting the Micca MB42X bookshelf speakers but there have been some mixed reviews, some people love them and other people think they are terrible. Everyone seems to recommend the Pioneer SP-BS22-LR but I really dislike the way they look. I don't plan on using bookshelf speakers as my main source of sound so I will eventually get something better when I am not so limited on space. I am just looking something that's comparable in sound to the A2's but won't break the bank. Audioengine P4's would be a good replacement but spending $250 on some bookshelf speakers I don't plan on using indefinitely is not a smart buy.
There are no tower speakers of any quality available at this price.
That's really difficult. You can do this:
Receiver $140: [link]
L/R speakers $81: [link]
That's as close as I can get. When your budget recovers get the center channel $80: [link]
See if that works okay, it'll sound considerably better than the TV speakers even without a sub. Add one if you want - you can get the excellent Martin Logan Dynamo 300 for $130.
Then it does not matter what kind of output your TV has as you won't be using it. Run the cable box and roku into the receiver and a single HDMI out of the receiver to the TV.
With your budget I'd go with this:
Receiver $200: [link]
L/R speakers $87: [link]
I'd consider getting a subwoofer at some point. Even without a sub this will vastly outperform the TV speakers. It is the same as my other recommendation but with a better receiver.
Nice, now all u need is a good pair of entry level speakers like these: [link]
Hi, I just bought the Orbit Basic Turntable.
Is this a good budget set-up?
Micca MB42X bookshelf speakers
Micca MB42X-C woofer Do I need this? I added it because I thought rap/hip-hop albums would sound good with it?
Lepai LP-2020A+ amp
is the Amazon speaker wire good? are these RCA cables good?
I kept wanting to spend a little higher for "better" stuff but after reading through forums and reddit, I chose these as being good entries. I'll probably upgrade in 2 years.
In your case you'll have to start with a receiver and two speakers, add a subwoofer later.
Receiver $230: [link]
Get a subwoofer and the matching center channel when the budget permits.
Ok that's a decent amount to upgrade. I think you're AVR is fine unless you just find it lacking in an area so I would keep it. I think the front three are what I would focus on. The DV32's work fine for surrounds so for now I think I would keep them there. Here are some options for upgrades that I would consider. Destruct0 gave great advice with the wavecrest but I'll through out some others.
Micca - MB42x $80 + MB42X-C $80 so $160 and you're in business. They are small and sound better on the low end than the BIC's you have. If you want to blow the whole budget get three centers for an LCR setup.
Fluance - Get the SX6 $130 and the matching center set $150 to replace everything. You're still under budget with new speakers all the way around. Just be patient with them as they take a while to break in.
Philharmonic Audio - The Affordable accuracy series. $175 for the books and $100 for the center gets you under the budget. They should definitely be and upgrade but make sure you have room for them as they tend to be pretty big.
BIC - Get three of the BIC DV52CLR $67 ea or get one with a pair of DV62 $115.
Hey all. I'm new to the audio game but I'm looking to buy some stuff mostly for listening to audio from my computer. After some reading I've put together some stuff but I'm not really sure if I have everything. And I'm not sure how to properly cable...
Speakers: Micca MB42X
Amp: Lepai LP-2020A+
Sub: Dayton Sub-800 8"
I can't really afford to spend too much more than this right now, so if I need to swap/add something (besides speaker wire?) it would have to be on the cheaper end of things.
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I am looking at getting this setup and am looking for longevity. This is over what I would like to spend, but if this setup is really THAT GOOD, then I am willing to spend the money.
NOTE: This is for my computer and I am an audionoob.
Micca MB42X $79.99
Lepai AMP $26.75
Behringer audio interface, for USB $29.75
Total savings: $88.44
I have an LP120. These are the components I use and I'm satisfied with them for now:
These two items come up relatively frequently in discussions around here (especially the amp).
Well, I'd start with a 2.1 system and add to it as you can. This is what I'd get:
Receiver $240: [link]
L/R mains $80: [link]
As your budget replenishes get the center speaker $80: [link]
Then surrounds, either another pair of the mains or these at $40: [link]
Okay, assuming the speakers are not useable this is what I'd get with that budget:
Receiver $150: [link]
You'll have to settle for 2.0 to begin. As your budget replenishes then get this sub $120: [link]
And finally surrounds $40: [link]
Well, in that case this is what I'd do:
Receiver $480: [link]
Front and rear speakers $160: [link]
Subwoofer $270: [link]
Within your budget I don't see how you can get anything better than this. It will sound very good. If you can stretch your budget say $300 you can take massive step up in sound quality and get five of these: [link]
I like Average Joes recommendations but I differ on the AVR I would get the [Yamaha RX-V377 refurb] for $189. The YPAO autosetup would be worth it vs the E200's lack there of. This puts you very close to your budget so I would look at stepping down on the speakers a bit to compensate.
Mains: Micca MB42x $80.
Center: Micca MB42X-C $60, currently out of stock that's ok get it while it's on sale.
Surrounds: Micca COVO $40 these should do fine in the surround roll. You can upgrade later.
Sub: Dayton Sub 800 $85 currently out of stock...that's ok get it while it's on sale.
Misc stuff: Don't forget HDMI Cables $8 for a two pack, an optical cable $6, some speaker wire $10, and a set of speaker stands $40 for the fronts. You could also get a set for the rear but that would put you over budget.
Another option if you have space is to get this Fluance speaker set for $250 and add in that yamaha AVR I linked above. I would tack on that Dayton sub just to cover the low end and maybe some stands for the rears and you're in business.
At that price you won't get much. Realistically that is not going to get what you want. I could put together a 2.0 system within $300 but no sub, no surround until you can replenish your budget and get a sub and more speakers.
That being said, I'd get this...
Receiver $220: [link]
I'd prefer a better receiver but with this budget selections are limited.
With that budget what I would do (and really, what you'll have to do) is start with a 2.0 system then add to it as you can to flesh it out to a full 5.1 system. With that in mind, this is what I'd get to start:
L/R main speakers $80: [link]
When you can set aside more money get this sub $130: [link]
This center channel $60: [link]
And finally, these surrounds $40: [link]
You'll have nice sound with the receiver and 2 main speakers. As you add the sub, then center, and finally surrounds it will just get better and better.
With that budget I'd get this:
Center channel $60: [link]
Subwoofer $130: [link]
Sanus makes good stands, you'll have to shop for those independently as you know the height you need. Ideally, your stands should place the tweeters on the speakers at roughly ear level.
You'll have to stretch your budget a bit, frankly.
For a subwoofer, check out the Dayton SUB-1000/1200. These blow your budget out but they're good performers for the price.
Usul1628 has outlined it perfectly with pricing dependent on what gear you get. Here is my shopping list for you.
Stage 1 - AVR: Denon E200 Refurb $150 + Speakers: Micca MB42X $80 + speaker wire $10 + HDMI/optical cable $10. I realize it's over your $200 budget but It's as close as we're going to get with good gear.
Stage 2 - Subwoofer: Dayton Sub 1000 $135 & subwoofer cable $12.
Stage 3 - Center: Micca MB42X-C $80 & Surrounds: Micca COVO $40
You could also get a refurb prepack if you wanted to increase your budget. These are an AVR and speakers all in one package. See these examples from Onkyo and Yamaha for around $350.
The speakers I have are the Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers. Great sound for the price.
Tough budget but here goes.
Subwoofer $99: [link]
Should be able to rattle a few things with this setup.
Get this receiver: [link]
and these speakers: [link]
Or the SX6 that you originally planned on if you can, good speakers. If the setup lacks enough bass add this: [link]
Sounds like you're going for a 2.1 at this time. When you say upgrading do you mean expanding that to a 5.1 or do you mean just getting new speakers?
If I were you I would look at these
EMPTek E3b $125
NHT Super Zero 2.1 $100 ea
Energy CB-5 $200
Polk TSi100 $150
Boston Acoustic CS23 $100 ea
Polk RTi4 $180 older version but a great price.
Fluance SX Surround $50 ea or get the 3 piece surround set for $150.
Klipsch Synergy B-10 $120 make sure you like horn tweeters.
Okay so your budget is $700-$800 for everything? This is what I would get...
Receiver $250: [link]
Center channel speaker $80: [link]
Surrounds $40: [link]
If I wanted to keep the quality of the Fluance speakers but would prefer to go with bookshelf speakers, would these guys be alright? SX6-BK or would you rather go with the Micca MB42X?
Also, is there a noticeable difference in sound quality vs these two?
Get Micca MB42x speakers for $80
with a SMSL SA-50 amplifier for $66
and speaker wire for $9 and a Y-cable for $2.55
for more info on 2.0 and 2.1 systems.
On the speaker side: define cheap.
MB42x will run you $80, or if you have more money you can step up to the modded BS-22s for $165. I have the latter and they're excellent.
Going to back up TahoeDust on this.
Much stronger build overall. If you're just storing games and data on the secondary drive it's better to have more space 2-4TB is nice.
If you don't feel you need the power of SLI, one 980 would probably do ya just fine. Personally not the biggest fan of dual GPUs myself.
As far as speakers go since they weren't covered. I'd recommend these arguably some of the best in the price range for sure. Pair it with this amp and boom, you're on your way to MUCH better sound.
Even these are a lot better
The Fluance will do well. Get this: [link]
That will be just a touch light for the L/R but you can pick up the SX6 as you have the funds so you'll then have a 5.0 system.
Alternatively, you can do this:
That would cost you around $120 and you'd have a 3.0 setup. The Micca speakers are well reviewed.
In your case I'd build a decent 3.1 system. That should fit the bill nicely. It will be a bit difficult to build through Amazon only. I'll use Amazon where possible.
Receiver $300: [link]
Center channel $40: [link]
Small sub $99: [link]
This is slightly beyond your budget but I think it's worth it to get the receiver, it's on you can use as a base for a very long time. Good unit.
If you want surround you can add a pair of speakers at a later date, you can get a wireless setup for the surround speakers as well to keep from having to string wire or run it through the walls.
I'm tossed up on this...I agree with Distruct0 that you should just replace the whole system...but then again I've seen good results with replacing the front three speakers. I see a few options for you.
$160 Replace the front three speakers. Micca MB42x $80 for mains and an MB42X-C $80 for the center.
$200 Replace all 5 speakers keeping the HTiB sub. Add in a set of Micca COVO-S $40 out back.
$400 Replace the whole thing. Get the Yamaha YHT399UBL prepack as a foundation. You're getting a Yamaha AVR and speaker set that you can upgrade later down the road. You'll have to get a Blu-Ray player to go with this but that should still keep you below your $500 budget.
Now if you're only replacing the speakers you could spend more I went for a lower cost solution so feel free to ask questions.
A good 2.0 system will require some patience. The speakers you choose need to be accurate which means they'll likely be bookshelf speakers and won't have a lot of deep bass extension. For $350 this is what I'd get:
Several choices for speakers:
Of the three speakers I like the first ones, the B652 AIR although you'll have to perform some minor surgery for them to sound their best. The Micca speakers are nice but have a very small woofer and will sound the worst of the 3 until you can get a subwoofer.
Basic 2.1 setup:
Or, if you want to buy today substitute these speakers:
And the sub:
At that budget use your existing surrounds until you can afford to replace them (and they may be good enough that you don't have to.) With $500 then I'd get this:
Subwoofer $190: [link]
This is a good, solid system that will serve you very well for a long time. You can pick up a Sony or Panasonic blu-ray player at Walmart cheap.
Well... I bought my 50" plasma in 2009... it's now 2015 and it still looks great. As they have a stated life of around 100,000 hours draw your own conclusion.
For audio you should look for a receiver and a pair of decent speakers. Something like this:
or these: [link]
With that budget I'd get these:
Take the little that you save off your $200 budget and put it away til you can get a decent sub (assuming you are still using the one it came with.)
First off, skip the "one piece" speakers. You want at least two speakers.
I would suggest:
Connect the Airport Express and the TV to the SMSL SA60's analog inputs, and the speakers via the speaker outs, and you've got yourself a pretty kickass starter system. You'll use Airplay from your Apple devices to stream audio to the speakers via the Airport Express.
Or, if you want to go absolute cheapest, get the powered PB42x version of the Miccas.
Not that good, although now awful.
I'd get these instead:
[link] $80 but you'll need an amp too.
I need some help. I am picking up this receiver. [link]
I am between the following speakers. I can get them for all relatively the same price, so that shouldn't be a factor. I might add a sub eventually, but for now will just be the bookshelf's.
they are simply awesome :)
these are very highly rated by people in /r/audiophile, and bizarrely inexpensive. i got a pair and a 100-dollar subwoofer and some wall mounts on amazon.
oops forgot the link!
the manufacturer changed the design based on feedback from this /r/audiophile guy
(vid is a review of the current model in that amazon link)
just to add, don't be tempted to buy that super inexpensive lenai amp that amazon shows is commonly bought with the speakers. it tends to catch on fire.
This is probably a stupid question but would the MB42X speakers sound better than the Bose Series II speakers I have right now, across all frequencies, for a desktop setup?
whats you Budget? Probally easier to do Passive speakers with a mini amp and run a sub off speaker wire Hi Level inputs.........
run 3.5mm to rca from pc to amp, run speaker wire from amp to sub Hi Level inputs, speaker wire from sub outputs to speakers. amp will control volume to sub and speakers or leave amp up and use pc volume controls.......
I have these speakers and these stands. I'm sure there's better out there, but for $120, these are nice enough compact bookshelf speakers and adjustable height stands that work well for me. I have them paired with considerably nicer fronts and sub, and am quite happy with the overall sound.
dont get a fucking sound bar man might as well have a tube tv from the 90's
get a good receiver on ebay, then order some good stuff with silk domes.
same receiver I have used to cost over 1200 msrp when made and no HDMI but coax or SPDIF is better than HDMI! just do optical out from tv to the optical in on the receiver dude this thing is better than most amps out there today going a grand+ for amp quality alone, fuck all that HDMI bullshit.
start with that stuff upgrade to sub later yo
then just buy another pair of the micca's for rears and you'll have hifi surround sound. better than some shitty sound bar yo!
For decent cheap setups, get something like the Micca MB42X, and the Lepy 2020a. The only caveat with this setup is that if you want to add a sub down the road, you'll need to replace the Lepy amp.
Micca Mb42X are good and compact. Only about 15cm wide, 16.5cm deep. $90(US). Those with a SMSl-SA50 or similar amp will be real compact and should put you under budget. The PB42x are the powered versions, no amp required and they are only about $120(US.) If you go with powered ones plugged directly into your output, you won't have a volume knob, you will have to control the volume on your output device like a PC, phone, or TV.
thanks! I tend to get into hobbies that are expensive... that or I just always want "the best" when it comes to getting the equipment. I wont be getting anything for a little while, but when i do, is a center speaker the next thing to add in a 2.1 system or 2 cheap speakers for the rear?
I can easily get the micca mb42x speakers, but then i'd have to start from scratch to get the center speaker.
OR i can save up for the center speaker and convince my wife to buy me the miccas
Well, I don't know room size or anything else but with that budget I'd do this:
L/R mains $799: [link]
Center $209: [link]
Surrounds $90: [link]
Subwoofer $365: [link]
Get rid of those speakers and replace them with some actual stereo monitors - even something like the Micca MB42X and a SMSL SA-60 amp would be better.
Sorry I jumped to conclusions there, what you're saying makes sense. If I were you, I would get some Micca MB42x s for surround and an MB42X-c for center channel. I've also heard good things about the Dayton SUB-800. If you were to get all of these, since you have the mounting brackets and receiver, would run you $358 plus $10 for shipping the sub (at least on amazon, there may be better deals elsewhere). The $1500 setup is more of an intro to surround, with that being almost the minimum to spend to get a GOOD system. Anything below that can still be a good system, but above $1500 is where the fun starts.
$200 is a better budget but you can squeeze a set of micca's and a nobsound out for $125.
You would just needs some wires to hook it up but I think he can handle that.
I'd start w/ this receiver. [link]
That leaves not a huge amount for speakers I'd probably start with these as left/right & as you get better components you cna transition them to rear surround duty [link]
The receiver you picked out is probably not the best solution as it lacks HDMI inputs. I'm sure that as time goes on you'll need HDMI inputs for your sources. It seems like your budget is about $300 so a 2.0 is not out of the question.
AVR - Yamaha RX-V375 refurb $170 I like this one over the the RX-V367 as it has the YPAO autosetup that should make it easier to expand in the future.
Speakers - Micca MB42x $80
Well then, if I may be so forward I'll make a recommendation based on your budget. I can't get to the Chane website at the moment so I included a link to a review of the speakers I'm recommending by a very well respected reviewer [link]
Front L/R: Chane A1rx-c
Center: Chane A2rx-c
This probably belongs in the gear advice thread so sorry if you get downvoted.
Buying new: You will have a really hard time here for $100. The cheapest setup that usually gets recommended in this sub is $133: Micca MB42X, Muse M50 and that doesn't include a subwoofer. If you're looking to add a sub, the best you can probably do on the cheap is the Dayton sub-1000. (Also note that this doesn't solve your input switching problem.)
Buying used: I'd say your best bet is to scour Craigslist/Ebay/Yard sales and try to find some good used equipment. Look for a used integrated amplifier and some old home theater speakers in good condition and you can probably stay under $100 used.
Best options IMO:
Micca's + Lepia + sub
Link to local CL for used options
Also, with a room like that I'd highly consider floorstanding instead - you may be able to get an alright used set if you're lucky. Never know what you'll get on CL.