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Motorola MB8600 DOCSIS 3.1 Cable Modem - Approved for Comcast Xfinity, Cox, and Charter Spectrum, Supports Cable Plans up to 1000 Mbps | 1 Gbps Ethernet Port?
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I got this: MOTOROLA DOCSIS 3.1 Cable Modem, 6 Gbps Max Speed. Approved for Comcast Xfinity Gigabit, Cox Gigablast, and More (Model MB8600) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0723599RQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_Tl68Shpp3Fhkv
Works great with my cox gigablast in Las Vegas.
I get between 700-800 MBs download, 37 upload
So far I've not noticed any problems with T-Mobile, and it is more consistent than Suddenlink. I did go to the effort to find out what towers are serving my location, and the placement of the gateway for best signal to those isn't the most convenient, but I'm planning to handle that by adding a mesh network anyway.
With Suddenlink/Optimum, I'm using the Motorola MB8600 DOCS IS 3.1 cable modem (link), which was on their approved list last I checked. I'm planning to cancel Suddenlink once I have my mesh network set up.
I've been satisfied with my motorola (https://www.amazon.com/MOTOROLA-Approved-Comcast-Gigablast-MB8600/dp/B0723599RQ/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3877ZQTJ8LI7R&keywords=docsis+3.1+modem&qid=1658514663&sprefix=docsis%2Caps%2C133&sr=8-3)
just look for something that is docsis 3.1 compatible
So much bullshit here.
>Comcast actually charges customers who use their own modem MORE!!!
No. Your own link says that in some test markets customers have reportedly received free unlimited data with their Comcast modem. This potentially saves those customers from the overage fees that they charge in some markets after going over the monthly cap multiple times.
So IF you are one of the very few people who require an unlimited data plan, and IF they provided the unlimited data with the modem rental, then yes, paying the $180 per year modem rental fee is less than the data cap overage fee.
Unequivocally stating "Comcast actually charges customers who use their own modem MORE!!!" is absolute bullshit fear mongering propaganda.
>Once every 2 years I take my Xfinity modem down to my local Xfnity store and they give be a new one for free.
No you are not. You're paying THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY DOLLARS for that modem. A modem for which an equivalent has a retail price of around 150. Three hundred and sixty dollars is NOT "free".
>facts are facts. The Xfinity modem is superior to any 3rd party modem you can buy.
You are apparently under the mistaken impression that your opinions are facts. "Superior" is subjective. Not a fact.
I bought this Motorola MB8600 DOCSIS 3.1, 1Gbps modem for 158 bucks in 2018. I've been getting gigabit speeds out of it ever since. That maxes out most all standard residential grade networking equipment. A Comcast modem could not possibly make my network any faster, no matter what hardware it has.
In that time, you would have been paying your 15 bucks per month for the privilege of having them own the hardware.
Your cost since 2018: 12x15x5= NINE HUNDRED DOLLARS.
My cost: $158.
You think it's "superior" to pay over SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS for NOTHING?
I bought this one. Not because it was cheaper but because it doesn't use a Puma 6 or Puma 7chipset which have a track record of being flaky.
Most of the listings on Amazon will tell you the major ISPs they are compatible with. I have this one which shows xfinity and will work on pretty much any of the major ISP's fastest plans. I would check to see what speed you have but this one should work with any plan and I would definitely look for that regardless of what your speed is
This just went on sale, do you think this one is good?
Motorola MB8600 DOCSIS 3.1
Yes, it does ... but FIRST LOOK at the 3rd party routers they support and their speeds. This info is from their website. No point in buying a router only to tell you they don't support it. Be forward-looking in your modem speeds. right now, you have 200mbps, but you may want a higher speed tier(sometimes for free) later on down the line. I'd at least choose a 400mbps modem 600mpb to 1Gbps being typical.
If they support this, buy it. It's the one I use and damn reliable for $150 @ 1Gbps max speed... or buy the next higher up for $170 @ 2.5Gbps (MB8611)
This is what I currently use, my docsis 3.0 Arris died after 18 months. Motorola When your provider starts to support it, the yellow panel on the back can be pealed off to reveal more gigabit ports to bond. Also, the LEDs are not nearly as bright as the Arris, and that's a good thing.
Yes I would recommend a D3.1 device, even if you do not plan to get gigabit right away.. That's what I did.
If you are not getting the voice service, I would recommend the Motorola MB8600. I have had this device since they were firs made available, and it has been rock-solid on D3.0 and D3.1 service.
even if you get the voice service, I still recommend that modem, and then get a cheap used/refurbished EMTA to run the phone off of.. Best best is to find one offered by Amazon Warehouse since if there are any issues, getting a replacement is not an issue - avoid eBay at all costs.
But by buying a Docsys 3.1 modem, you will be able to have it pay for itself a bit easier as you upgrade down the road. Cost for the modem alone is approx $150 to $200 on Amazon as I just got the Motorola MB860 (coming this week).
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0723599RQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_dWImFbMQ6K6H9
THEN you still need to get a router so the connection can spread around your home.
If you want to get gig(fiber) speeds now or in the future, make sure you purchase a DOCSIS 3.1 modem (not 3.0 or lower). The Arris one you mentioned in your post is 3.0, so your theoretical max speeds is 686Mbps, versus the 1Gbps+ speeds of a gig network over a DOCSIS 3.1 modem. This is the 3.1 modem I use: link.
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As for routers, you could do anything from a Google Mesh, or a beamforming router. I use the Motorola MR1900 router, and I get highspeeds over wifi with it using beamforming (I have a beamforming compatible PC network card too).
I just picked up a Motorola MB8600 after findiing out about this issue. It's a Broadcom unit and supports >1Gbps. Looks like there are 3 good ones out available right now Netgear CM1000, Motorola MB8600, and the Arris SB8200. All of these are Broadcom chipsets instead of the Intel.
Save a couple bucks with the MB8600 that has the same SoC :P
I'd get the non combo unit.
CM1000 is okay. MB8600 is also okay. I use the MB8600 on gigabit and it's solid. I believe they're all broadcom based and should be similar.
https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-MB8600-Certified-Comcast-Communications/dp/B0723599RQ
Anyone in particular?
I have the gig package on Comcast and use the Motorola MB8600 which has been pretty solid. For cable type service you'd definitely need the modem. Some providers hand off via an ethernet port but they are generally more fiber based.
https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-MB8600-Certified-Comcast-Communications/dp/B0723599RQ
Wow, giant fail for Mediacom. The provisioned speed depends on the configuration file they have for your model, some ISPs artificially limit certain modems below what they're capable of.
200 Mbit, however, is super low. Most ISPs would support that with DOCSIS 3.0. However, as 3.1 is the standard moving forward you might as well just purchase one of those and be good for the future.
I have one of these and it's been solid on Comcast's gigabit plan, although I wouldn't put it in the cheap category.
https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-MB8600-Certified-Comcast-Communications/dp/B0723599RQ
I assume you also need a router to pair with it?
Another option for the modem is the Motorola MB8600 (the sister to the Arris you suggested). The Motorola can be had for ~$160 as of this writing.
+1 for the recommendation of PfSense.
AFAIK, the Extreme Pro 400 is still DOCSIS 3.0, with the only DOCSIS 3.1 service being the standard Gigabit (Not Pro) service.
If they're sending someone out to swap the modem out, it's likely you have an older modem and need one that can handle the higher speed.
That's not to say you can't buy a D3.1 modem, as they all are backwards compatible. No D3.1 in my area and certainly no 400mbps plan but I still ended up getting the Motorola MB8600 so I'm ready whenever gigabit becomes available in my area.
Do you have voice service with Comcast? If you do and plan to keep it, you will need an EMTA, which that TM722G happens to be.
If you don't have the phone service and just Internet, then the sky's the limit as to which modem you get (provided Comcast supports it).. I would avoid the SB6190 and the newer Netgear modem/gateways, as they have a buggy chipset that not only effects video streaming and gaming, it was recently discovered to be vulnerable to a denial-of-service attack that is trivial to do.
For your plan, the SB6183 will work just fine. You want as a minimum a modem that can do up to 16 downstream and 4 upstream channels.
Now if you want to future proof yourself, consider a D3.1 modem.. I just started using a Motorola MB8600. I have that paired with a refurbished TG862G EMTA which handles my voice service.
If you do have Comcast Voice, you'll need to do something similar - Modem for Internet and EMTA for Voice (unless you want to take a chance on one of those retail all-in-one devices that do voice - all of the retail devices have the problematic chipset).
Try to get a router that supports Docsis 3.1. It's a little more future-proof and takes full advantage of high speed internet.
A cable modem only. Even says so in the listing: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0723599RQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glc_fabc_V03DSDZ4J05AWVE77G8K And describes how a router would need to be hooked up in the picture.
Modems are one of the things where while it may seem better to get the cheapest unit and then upgrade when you need it, it will actually save money in the long run to get a really nice one and use it for years. For example I've had this one for over 3 years and have no reason to upgrade it in the near future. (It claims to be good up to 6 gigabit.) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0723599RQ
Comcast rolled out DOCSIS 3.1 support for all of CO in May. I have Xfinity and recently picked up one of the few DOCSIS 3.1 modems on Amazon for future compatibility purposes. However, any DOCSIS 3.0 modem will be fine for download speeds up to 1.2 Gbps.
I would recommend getting a separate modem and router. For the modem, I would recommend the Motorola MB8600, and for the router, I would get any Wi-Fi 5 router with good range (don't get a Wi-Fi 6 router, wait for Wi-Fi 6E). The TP-Link Archer A7 AC1750 would probably be fine.
Do you have Comcast Voice? If so you'll probably want to do like I did.
I have a DOCSIS 3.1 modem, Motorola MB8600 connected to an Asus RT-AC5300 router, which feeds my network.
For the telephone, I have an Arris TG862g provisioned for only telephone. This has it's own separate coax connection and is not connected to my network in any way.
I use this one - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0723599RQ
Here is a list of modem's that work with breezeline:
https://www.breezeline.com/assets/documents/2021\_approved\_modems.pdf
I would recommend this over the Arris: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0723599RQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Dude please cut the cord, I guarantee there is a streaming service for everything you guys watch on cable plus a lot more.
Here's my advice:
Keep the 400MBPS, that should be $89 per month max. Return all of spectrum's junk to the store and have them cancel whatever you're paying for. Buy this modem, and buy this router, so you have good reliable internet throughout the house. Buy a 4k Fire TV for every TV in the house, sign up for Youtube TV as your basic cable replacement and access that through an app on the Fire TV. Then keep signing up for additional streaming services depending on what you and your family watch.
There are a lot of front loaded costs here but in your case it will pay for itself after about 2-3 months of cable bill savings.
I am willing to bet it is the "gateway" device you are renting. Consider purchasing your own cable modem. I am a Cox subscriber and purchased the following modem in July and I have no complaints. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0723599RQ/
Deal link: Amazon
Nope haven't used their hardware in years. I have this modem and this router.
I would not be surprised in the least if it was something on Comcast's end, but even so, why just the one desktop?
mb8600, i have it 2 years and love it 1 gig internet
https://www.amazon.com/MOTOROLA-Approved-Comcast-Gigablast-MB8600/dp/B0723599RQ
Ok to those commenting about Arris and Netgear modems. I went out of my way to research gigabit capable modems, the DOCSIS 3.1 modems that COX supports for "Gigablast", of which there were 3, Arris, Motorola, and Netgear.
A Consistent thread in the Amazon reviews concerning the Arris and Netgear modems was constant issues that I didn't see the Motorola have, and I noticed the Arris and Netgear both had the same common processor while the Motorola had a different processor.
I purchased the Motorola Modem, and haven't had any connection issues that I can't trace directly to the modem, any connection issues I've seen stem from my own personal router, an ASUS RT-AC3200 that needed to be rebooted sporadically.
I periodically run an speedtest.net speed test and no issues related to the modem at all.
Maybe once in a while I reset the modem's connection but otherwise no issues.
With 3000 sq feet, one unit placed near the middle of the home probably does ok.. but I bet it gets spotty in the rooms on either side of the house, huh? Layout of the rooms and whatever the walls are made of could make it worse. I don't know how far your detached shop is, but I doubt that any consumer router could get a worthwhile signal out there.
If you can get the electrician to run ethernet out there without added cost, do it! Then you could put a cheap wireless access point out there and have a great signal.
But bottom line, wifi isn't very good at penetrating walls, so I want to get access points in clear line of sight to my most important locations that need good signal. u/geffenizlude's recommendations are what I would recommend as well. I am moving soon, to a smaller house than yours. I just bought this stuff: Modem: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0723599RQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Two of these wireless AP's: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0781YXFBT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Router: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08QTXNWZ1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
u/geffenizlude says TP-link is bad... I have heard other complaints, but honestly I've heard lots of complaints about just about every manufacturer. I read reviews on these individual devices and I am willing to take the chance on them. I don't have them set up yet so I can't say how well they work yet.
Ok I’m confused again. My plan was to have the modem connected in the basement to the Ethernet switch. (To be honest I don’t know how new internet service is set up so I’m just assuming it can be hooked up down there.) And once all the jacks were powered with internet I was going to use mesh routers plugged into the wall. Is this not feasible or the best course of action? Thanks again for the advice I have a much better understand of my steps forward by the way.
Modem - Docsis 3.1, Broadcom-based (no Intel Puma). Netgear CM1000, 1100 or 1200, or Motorola MB8600.
Router - I'd go RT-AX58U, flashed with Merlin for stability.
TL;DR - The "AX####" marketing designations are mostly deceptive BS (link to educate).
This one is certified for gigabit speeds, works like a champ on PFSense. No settings need to be messed with at all to get a public IP on the PFSense WAN.
I wouldn't recommend a modem/router combo unit. Very few are made compared to standalone modems and routers, and if you have a problem with one part if it, it's even more difficult to troubleshoot since the whole thing is frankensteined into one device.
Are you getting phone service from WOW? If that's the case, you have to use their modem. If you're not using their phone service then you should be able to purchase any DOCSIS 3.1 compatible modem and whatever router you want.
I'd recommend this modem: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0723599RQ/ and this router: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NF3K74H/
Edit: I meant the Archer C9 not the C7. They're both good routers but if you get better use of your gigabit internet, you're going to want the C9.
MOTOROLA DOCSIS 3.1 Gig-Speed Cable Modem, Model MB8600, Plus 32x8 DOCSIS 3.0. Approved Comcast Xfinity, Cox More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0723599RQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_2xl7BbF45YKX5
What cable modem do you have, OP?
There's a massive bug with certain cable modems that use the Intel Puma 6 & 7 chipset. I had one (an Arris Surfboard SB6190) and my internet would repeatedly disconnect, until I replaced it with this
Thanks for the reply - I went ahead and did a ton of research like you said and landed on the Motorolla Cable Modem link here
With that said - I may be punching out of my weight limit here with the Ubiquiti products. I am a novice when it comes to homenetworking. I have no idea what most of the acronyms mean, never set up a Static IP address before.
Question: Am I wasting my time with the Ubiquiti products or would it be simple enough for a novice to figure out? Otherwise, I may get a top of the line commercial router like this one link here.
Your thoughts are appreciated.
Thanks. On their website they list a bunch of Arris modems, but recently the negative 1 star reviews on amazon are all complaining about it being bad for gaming (packet loss issue), and that's about all I do on my computer. https://www.amazon.com/ARRIS-SURFboard-SB6190-DOCSIS-Cable/product-reviews/B016PE1X5K/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewopt_srt?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=all_reviews&pageNumber=1&sortBy=recent#reviews-filter-bar
When I called my ISP about what works for them, they said as long as its Docsis 3.0 compatible it's okay.
I even found people complaining about the puma 6 chipset in reviews for https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-MB8600-Certified-Comcast-Communications/dp/B0723599RQ/ref=sr_1_11?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1509993117&sr=1-11&refinements=p_72%3A1248879011
"Does this use the now-notorious Intel Puma 6 chipset?"
Also Arris has a 3.1 model, but it has complaints of overheating issues lol
And what router do I need? No idea what technical needs I need for it.
New routers that support docsis 3.1 with binding can get up to speeds of 2gbps like this one
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