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I live in the midwestern US and it’s going to get cold very soon. I’ve overwintered my houseplants before but most died due to lack of light. My apartment has ONE window and it faces the north. All of my plants sit outside on my porch (photo). They’ve all done so well this year and I cannot lose them. Especially my favorites (prayer plant, wandering jew, and Marbled pothos) I’ve had the prayer plant for a year now and it is my baby!
I have saltwater fish tanks and my bedroom stays humid and at about 70 degrees. I am planning on putting all the plants on my desk and I have two architectural type desk lamps I am putting two 12 watt red and blue “LED grow lights” from Amazon in the architect lamps and mounting them up pretty high. (Link: [link]) The reviews on that light in particular is outstanding for such a small fixture.. All of my plants are low light (due to my cave like apartment) and with my reef tank lights and the grow lights. I hope that lighting will suffice for overwintering.
My main concern is lighting. I am pretty knowledgeable on spectrum and stuff due to my reef tank.
What do you guys think?
I'm in Zone 8a in a pretty dark house. The only big window is facing North but is mostly covered by outdoor trees. I was looking into getting a cheap light setup for now with this bulb: [link] I only have two Phalaenopsis orchids and they seem to need more light. Does anyone have experience with this bulb or with a very simple grow light setup?
Strawberries need full sun for 8 hours a day to thrive and bear fruit. Any extra sunlight you can give them will help, but grow lights are really the best option for anything indoors.
I've grown dwarf tomatoes indoors with these 12W bulbs: [link]. Total cost: $25 - $30 for the bulb and a clamp fixture. Power use on the 12W bulb costs maybe 50 cents per month. If you can swing it, the 36W full spectrum bulb produces a less obnoxious light color. Add an $8 timer and you barely have to think about it.
I haven't delved enough in to grow lights to really know the answer. What I do know is that the quality varies widely, and PAR is the metric you want to look at when comparing lights. It measures the plant-usable light output, as opposed to lumens which are total light output. A lot of lights don't provide this metric unfortunately.
I've used the 12W bulbs here to grow mini cherry tomatoes (1 per plant). They produced like crazy: [link]
I'm sure there are better lights out there but this one worked well enough for me. Take a look at the 36W versions too, especially if your tomato is a larger variety.
A small grow light above the plant can do wonders also. There are many cheapish options that work well. Soil looks a little wet, once you transplant it (Onthenightshift had some great advice.) only water it when the first couple inches of soil is dry.
I live in the midwestern US and it’s going to get cold very soon. I’ve overwintered my houseplants before but most died due to lack of light. My apartment has ONE window and it faces the north. All of my plants sit outside on my porch (photo). They’ve all done so well this year and I cannot lose them. Especially my favorites (prayer plant, wandering jew, and Marbled pothos) I’ve had the prayer plant for a year now and it is my baby!
I have saltwater fish tanks and my bedroom stays humid and at about 70 degrees. I am planning on putting all the plants on my desk and I have two architectural type desk lamps I am putting two 12 watt red and blue “LED grow lights” from Amazon in the architect lamps and mounting them up pretty high. (Link: [link]) The reviews on that light in particular is outstanding for such a small fixture.. I purchased one already and it is surprisingly bright. All of my plants are low light (due to my cave like apartment) and with my reef tank lights and the grow lights. I hope that lighting will suffice for overwintering.
My main concern is lighting. I am pretty knowledgeable on spectrum and stuff due to my reef tank.
What do you guys think?
Are you meaning something like this... [link]
Nah - I am from the NE region with a radiator that just makes my apartment wildly dry and hot in the winter. I leave the window open a crack because my dog would just be miserable.
I usually move my more moody plants (usually species phals and other kinds of orchids) but my hybrid NOID phalaenopsis don't seem to mind a cold draft blowing on them - they are so much more hardy. During the summer months, I don't see this being an issue but when it gets to like 10F, I will close the window or move it inside more. I am lucky to have South-facing windows though.
I bought a grow bulb from Amazon that fits into a standard lamp. You can use it to supplement light on gloomy days since a North-facing window may not be enough light.
I would say, keep it away from the window and slowly move it closer since it will need some time to acclimate to a new apartment, then to a drafty window.
This was my first one and if you put it high enough you could cover that many, depending on pot sizes. It's very strong even from several feet away according to my light meter, but I have mine maybe 2feet above 2 plants.
I use larger more expensive ones to cover more space.
TaoTronics Led Grow light Bulb , Grow Plant Light for Hydropoics Greenhouse Organic ( E26 12w 3 Bands) [link]
I don't have one exactly like that but I do have a colored LED bulb that my succulents really like. It makes them a pretty color, too. Although I don't know if the coloring is from the colored light or just sun stress.
The Taotronics LED bulbs from Amazon work well for me. [link] This one works for me for about a square foot of plants, placed about 1-1.5 feet above the pots.
Moss/lichen come in a lot of varieties, and most are adapted to being completely dormant between rainfalls, or grow near rivers and other sources of constant high humidity. What kind are you trying to grow?
I ended up getting this one [link]
I have no idea if it's doing any good. I ordered it before you responded. I figure I can give it a couple weeks and if they aren't healthier looking I can try another?
It works fine. Trust me. I also proof my outdoor plants with this light before I move them outside.
I looked up my order on amazon, this is what I picked up. Not sure if it is the same one.
I have One of these LED lights over my fuge and I get green hair algae growing like crazy along with my chaeto, I throw some in my display for my tang and fox face every time I clean it out, they think it's a treat.
If you do some digging you can get away with LED lighting for under $50 as long as you're not looking to light a whole lot of large plants. Most LEDs are set to the blue/red spectrum so you're not wasting energy on wavelengths the plants aren't using. That and the fact that they're LEDs means that you'll only end up spending a couple of extra bucks a YEAR for most lights. I wouldn't worry about that part too much.
I would suggest investing in a timer as well. A cheap $10 would do the job. That way you don't have to worry about forgetting to turn them on in the morning or anything like that.
I actually rock a couple of these guys clipped to a planter. They don't kick out a ton of light, but they supplement the sunlight in the room enough to keep my plants going.
Something like this would work fine. To save yourself work you can get a timer adapter for the socket and set it to turn off overnight (Mine is off from 11pm-9am as an example)
I don't know if this is the exact one, but it's pretty similar. It really is only big enough for one pepper plant, though. [link]
I bought 2 of the Taotronics 12W bulbs. This to be precise [link].
I don't see the leaves being over stressed yet but will keep an eye out for that.
You grew them in a closet? That's amazing, what was your pollination technique? Also how often did you water them? Sucks about it dying when you missed a single watering, I'm worried about them when we go on vacations.
Two of these: [link] Honestly, you get used to it fast, or at least I did. The light doesn't penetrate far into the room. I can't sleep if there's any light usually, but these click on in the morning while I'm still asleep and they've never bothered me.
Hmm really? Good to know. I've read about the pollinating issue, but they wouldn't even get to flowers, you could see them starting to grow, but they were small and eventually just fell off. It's this one: [link]
As I said, it depends on your budget. Both for the fixture and for the running cost. Some people don't care about running cost because they get their electricity for free (solar). So LED makes more sense for them. Or perhaps they are concerned about heat buildup. Or they need a very specific spectrum of light.
A lot of people on Amazon like this one: [link]
But you'd need quite a few of them to cover an area for 40 plants for 2 months. And I doubt they last more than a couple seasons for you. But I could be wrong. There's a lot of trash fixtures coming out of China right now, so I typically stay away from the more "retail grade" units and stick with the commercial models.
Thanks! That's exactly the kind of information I was looking for.
What about an LED bulb that would fit into a clamp light, like this one:
I figure if the purple light is driving us crazy, we could always swap it out for a CFL and not be down too much money.
Thanks again!
Yeah I definitely recommend this bulb from Amazon. Works wonders for me.
$21.99, #1 best seller on Amazon, and 4.5 stars from 1000+ reviews.
I have a Miracle Grow bottle lying around, should I use it or look into the Floranova Bloom?
Could you clarify 2 things for this newbie?
Topping: should I just cut the tops of the plants or is there something deeper into the technique?
PH: is there a specific way to measure the ph level of my water?
As for your question, I had used the TaoTronics grow lights to germinate these and get them going.
[link]
I mispoke a bit and didn't mean pure UV lights; I meant the broad spectrum LED arrays that include more UV spectrum than standard LED lights.
This is the specific one I use as supplemental light in NYC since in the Winter we have short days and lots of overcast days: [link]
There's a lot of marketing mumbo-jumbo in there and pseudo-science about optimal wavelengths; but it's relatively cheap and effective for my niche use.
Sorry to be highjacking your post but my girlfriend has a desert rose and I want to give it a boost and was looking at this grow light. Can anyone offer advice on whether or not this is a good idea or have a better suggestion? Thanks!
For succulents, you don't want a humidifier. They want dry air to begin with (with exceptions for a handful of tropical succulents/cacti like christmas cactus), and during colder weather with less sunlight they do best with even drier conditions.
Having a north facing window means virtually no UV light from sunlight, so your plants will likely be dormant. This means very slow to no growth, little to no chlorophyll (usually exhibited by darker coloration), and very low water requirements. Due to the lack of chlorophyll, some succulents will even stop absorbing water and actually shrivel to conserve energy. Balloon cactus and Paper-spine cactus are some notable examples of this behavior.
Considering you're in the midwest with a north facing window, succulents would struggle during the summer too and probably etiolate badly. I would definitely recommend getting a UV light. There's some pretty decent and cheap LED bulbs on Amazon that will work well. In my experience, Taotronics bulbs are pretty cost effective for a small setup with just a few plants. Just make sure you check the light range and that they produce UV light.
Sepcifically, I've used this one to positive effect for covering a 2"x2" area: [link]
Those are the lights. I have one in each corner of my tent, and they are just for broadening the light spectrum that my plants will receive. On second glance it may actually be half the wattage I originally said (~50W instead of 100W, or 12W each). I'm new to this lol.
But those are the highest rated LED lights I could find for the money. I am an Amazon addict though.
This is the one I have: [link]
Did a decent job for about 6 square feet, hanging about 2 feet above the plants. Had it on a timer to run 12 hours a day.
You're probably better off not getting the amount of artificial light you would need for a lithops in a dorm room. However, maybe a roommate would find one of these cool instead of annoying. You'd probably also still have to give it some window light.
I'm thinking about adding two of these LED lights above the window in order to increase the light they get, thoughts?
I will start watering them in April, once every 3-4 weeks.
"Rich white person" with a lot of crap from anthropologie chiming in. I'll explain this - note, some of this are going to sound shitty. Why? Because it is shitty. But I'm giving you the perspective of someone who shops at places like this and buys shit like that.
- Yesterday I bought this. Not quite an impulse buy, as I had seen it before, and had noticed it and am in the market for one of these, but I was passing by a West Elm and thought "fuck it." The entire trip in and out of the store took under 10 minutes. I knew I needed a console, I had seen it before, I was passing the store - I bought it.
- "Simplehuman" garbage cans - that are really boring and shitty, easily cost $100. They are the default sold at Bed, Bath and Beyond. I think they are ugly as fuck. We a small one in one of the bathrooms. Why? Because we need a bathroom garbage can and were shopping for that shit when we were at BB&B. I don't love it. However, it is the same one that you will see in half a dozen of our friends apartments. We actually have two of these ones, and I think they were pretty cheap - like $10 or 15 at homegoods. But the point is - go into one of my friends places, or my place, you will likely see Simplehuman garbage cans.
- That having been said, $100 is not only an established price range for a garbage can - we have established it is less than I'm willing to spend on a small piece of furniture if it fits with my aesthetic and it is for a piece of furniture I know I already need. I am not going to buy the first one I see - but if I've decided I need a garbage can, I may browse for a few weeks and then buy it when done browsing. That is what happened with the console, above. And, that having been said - I like Anthropologie's style. We have a fair amount of anthro stuff in our place - as well as vintage mid century modern furniture, new "mid-century style" furniture, some deco shit - whatever. It's a bit of a hodgepodge, but we make it work and have put effort into it. The point is, aesthetically, this anthro garbage can is way different looking than <em>any</em> of these. I like the flat top, I like that the sides are only slightly tapered, and I like the fact that the finished isn't that high gloss galvanized shit. I like the rope/leather handle, and I like the patina. You know what the difference is between the patina applied at anthro and the one you find on a 'vintage' garbage can? I am going to assume that the patina on the anthro one was applied in a factory and is not composed of literal filth, and an actual 'vintage' patina is 40 years of grossness I don't want in my house - especially not in my kitchen. Additionally, when you factor in the fact that I get discounts and points at Anthro, I have a relationship with their customer service department, and I am going to be ordering this shit from someone I've never heard at from Amazon, the fact it is a $70 price difference becomes the cost of an aesthetic choice - one I am perfectly happy to make in order to have something match my decor and for a purchase I don't plan on repeating again for 10 years. Quite honestly, the aesthetic differences between these garbage cans is no less meaningful than the aesthetic differences between iOS and Android. It is easy to love one and be driven mad by 80 central design decisions in the other that are borne right on the face of the product. Finally, could I find one like the anthro one for a lot cheaper if I am willing to look in vintage stores and antique shops? Yes - but I am a corporate lawyer. The value of time I would spend in the search for a can would so grossly outweigh the savings of just having the damn thing in my kitchen and close enough to my decor that I didn't have to worry about it that the $70 also just pays for a convenience cost instead of four weekends looking at garage sales and antique stores in putnam county - where it would likely wind up being $80 anyway.
So, yeah. That is how these things get sold. The extra $70 is being paid for in design to a brand I know and trust, matching an aesthetic I already have that, which while I could find for cheaper, it would take a lot of time to find a bargain, I have a relationship with their customer service and get bonus points and discounts, and while I doubt I would put one of the Amazon garbage cans outside - ironically, I'd want the cans out front to be super shiny and polished as shit, while the one in the house can have a patina - the anthro one is a definite maybe for indoor use. In the end, will I get it? Probably not. However, I do hate my current garbage cans. This is more my speed. Quite frankly, thinking it through, the fingerprints on that thing would drive me mad, and the patina on the anthro one won't show fingerprints at all...
Now, just to drive home what other kind of stupid shit I have here, I'm going to go blow out this absurd candle and turn off the LED grow-lamp facing my chocolate orchid and pitcher plant and then go to bed. This is what the houses are like of people who shop at anthro.
And before you downvote - I told you it would be shitty.
Some 2 foot t5s from Amazon. With all the money I've spent buying single bulb ones I should have invested in one of the big fancy 4 bulb ones, or the big colorful LED lights like this. . :/ I have other succulents under the red/blue/purple LED light bulbs (like this ) and it's making their coloring so pretty. My previously all green succulents are getting more pink and purple coloring.
May work better than those small lamps, the led bulb got really good reviews so is proven, and also the lamp was just personal because i think architect lamps ar too damn beautyfull to pass the chance to put one in a desk. So that combination would provide good light to ur plants, but mostly check for what u like lamp wise, just know that led bulb is advised widely on amazon compared to those lamps u linked.
I built my light using leftover parts i had from building a light for my saltwater reef aquarium. I knew that if the light i built for my aquarium was strong enough to grow the specific coral i wanted to grow, a similar light would be more than strong enough to grow any kind of plant. I've gotten tomatoes to flower and set fruit with this light. I used 24 3w cree LEDs (this was several years ago though, and LEDs have vastly improved since then). I currently only have 12 of the LEDs turned on, and the fixture is mounted about 5 feet above the orchids (phals, cattleyas, oncidiums, and a maxillaria), hanging from the ceiling using one of the hanging kits from rapidled.com
Do you just have one orchid?
I wouldn't get that $70 light on Amazon. There is no real reason to get a "full spectrum" light because plants primarily only use red and blue light (which is why most LED grow lights only have red and blue LEDs).
If you only have one orchid, I would just get something like this and get some kind of cheap fixture to mount it in, like a shop light from home depot.
What kind of orchids are you trying to grow and how many do you have/want?
You could possibly use a 300w led like this. If you want a small one, I would recommend a Taotronics e27 bulb.
I ended up buying.... this LED bulb
I'll let you know how it goes if you're interested.
1200 positive reviews
I use these:
Here's the link to the bulb: [link]
I ordered that and put it into one of these: [link]
The larger light I'm honestly not sure. After we legalized I bought it as part of this kit a hydro store in Maryland had put together, and just came in a unmarked box as part of a larger wholesale shipment I imagine.
The entire kit was like $325 or something and I remember the light being a little less than half of that, so it's likely comparable to other $150 or so full spectrum LED's, you can also control whether it's just blue/red/or both.
I was thinking one lamp with a daylight led, 60w equivalent like the one you linked in the other thread and one of these: [link]
Any thoughts?
Sorry for the delay, was at the gym.
-Temp: approx 80-86 degrees the entire cycle so far
-Humidity: that's fluctuated kinda a lot, but the average has been about 60
-Light schedule: started at a full 24 for the first week, now it's 18 on 6 off
-Light source: This, but my new rig arrived today
-Feeding regimen: watering every two days, soil slightly moist. Fertilizer has been Eco-Gro, 1 time per week, diluted 1/10
-Soil: Ferry Morse organic potting mix 70%, Perlite 30%
-Watering Schedule: every two days
-Water pH: 6.9
-Soil pH: before or after using pH Balance?
I saw that lol. I went with this here: [link]
I already have a reflective fixture and the surface to cover is really small... So we'll see!
I ordered a couple of grow lights and a double gooseneck desk lamp. The lamp is portable, and I can easily adjust the lights to the correct height above the plants. My plan is to rotate the lamp among the windowsills I have my plants lined up along to give them supplemental light. The grow lights should fit into the sconces with the lamp, or I may remove the sconces if they don't. It's still got a nice, clean aesthetic which is what I'm trying to maintain as well.
I've got 2 areas set up now. One is an approx. 4' shelf about 20" deep. I Have 2 4' fluorescent lights on that. The lights are on a time and hanging from the ceiling with light chains so I can adjust the height. I keep them a couple inches above the tops of the plants. The other is on the top of a cabinet about 30" x 20" and I just got new red-blue Led spotlights for that. [link] The LEDs are all mounted in clamp light fixtures on a dowel that hangs from the ceiling so I can adjust the height.
I just orders some new LED strips from Amazon and I'm not exactly sure how I'll use them, need to see them first. [link]
I'm using a mix of containers and flats for sprouting and growing. I know I'm going to run out of room soon as I've started some tomatoes, dwarf sunflowers and even a couple pumpkins, along with the lettuce and herbs.
How about this cheaper one. I am seeing it on Facebook. 20% off code :PJ7J2HZG