Here it is:
They claim 3-8 weeks before needing a charge, unless my memory is wildly mistaken, I didn’t get anywhere near that length of time. But it’s in a small closed space with one to two mouth breathers...it did the job just fine for me though. Rarely woke up with moisture on the windows.
Confirming what the other posts have said. It depends on the filament, ambient humidity, and how well it's stored. I'm in the Chicagoland area so we get some pretty high humidity during the summer but very low humidity during the winter. I use a plug in dehumidifier similar to but larger than this one (Looks like they stopped making the exact one I own) and an air tight plastic box. I have some ~4 year old PLA that prints well enough.
Not an expert here, so grain of salt... wait for others.
I just purchased a clear tub from walmart, for like 6 dollars and holds about 14 spools. I also purchased a Mini Dehumidifier item from Amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BD0FN8A/, it requires nothing except plugging it in for a few hours when the color changes. (not every few hours, just for a few hours after it is "full") That is much, much easier than constantly vacuum packing filaments.
The Humidity in my room was 62%! according to my little temp/humidty thingy, I put this (and the thingy) in the tub and in an hour it was 28%. I have had zero troubles with any filament.
As with everything, some of us go a bit over board and worry about the most minor things. Again, I am no expert but I previously had been using rolls of filament that had been in that 62% room exposed for weeks and had no troubles at all. I only did the tub thing because the organization of my filaments was getting out of hand and I figured what the heck..can't hurt.
> they enable you to run the system as a dehumidifier
Interesting, never heard that benefit of a heat pump. I did find my MY17 fogging up far more often when I was trying to be conservative with the heat. I found thesedehumidifiers to assist with the humidity levels in the car. I put them under the seats by the vents and always have the air going to the feet, which coincidentally is the only part of me that gets cold when driving. Gotta love the heated seats and steering wheel!
Have a fan running & don't keep a water dish inside. You can also check out something like this to hang in the enclosure
I use the EVA-Dry rechargable dry pack. It's essentially a big pack of silica gel, with an AC plug that you can plug into the wall to bake the silica whenever it gets saturated (could be every 2 weeks or months, depending on whether you're in florida or nevada). It's compact enough that I can shove it behind the stocks of my rifles that have optics on them (since they sit far from the safe wall)
I have used a larger version of one of these for a few years and it has not let me down. I can hold 8-10 standard spools plus a dehumidifer
I use these and put them under the front seats in front of the vents. Haven't had issues with foggy windows since I bought them a couple years ago.
Yep- right now I only have 1 pony, but usually I have 2. Will be ordering my Christmas seasonal here in the next 4 weeks so will be back at 2 soon. I haven’t got any of my upgrades at one place. I just did a lot of research about what to upgrade then looked for best prices.
I think I bought most of the components (I’ve upgraded everything except couplers) from EBay or Amazon. I buy all my tap handles from EBay— you can get some great buys on there if you do some digging. If you are starting from a complete stock set up my number one recommended upgrade would be some forward sealing faucets to avoid sticking & sanitary reasons. I bought Perlicks (flow-control) but there are other options out there depending on your preference . My C02 tank came with unit and I get it filled at a local welding shop for 16 bucks.
Another cool upgrade that’s cheap and effective (if you don’t have a deicer) is getting one of these to put in cabinet- it’s really effective in keeping ice off the coil and I don’t think a lot of guys know it’s an option:
New and Improved Eva-dry E-500 Renewable Mini Dehumidifier https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BD0FN8A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_WY4RD5KBB35QF8NVDFEG
A rechargeable dehumidifier like this one
I bought this one and it lasts about 3-ish weeks at a time so far this summer.
I wipe out excess moisture with a towel when it is recharging
I keep all of my filament in an airtight tub with this reusable dryer in it. Haven’t had any issues since. I have spools that are Over 2 years old and I can pull them out and they are fine. They used to break all the time before doing this. It’s very humid in Michigan basements.
New and Improved Eva-dry E-500 Renewable Mini Dehumidifier https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BD0FN8A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_6DjpTAhxPDnBH
Nothing more expensive than black mold. If it’s serious humidity and there are no other options like running a heater in winter anyway, it’ll pay for itself. But there are also starter options like these i keep in the car:
That quickly and completely? Doesn't seem likely but then I am still fairly new at all this. I just have one of these in there and it's only slightly closer to needing to be plugged in than it was before I started the cold crash.
Thinking back, it was probably closer to two gallons of headspace in the fermenter, but that shouldn't significantly affect your calculations from earlier, would it?
These use batteries if you want to
Probably will need more than 1
Kind of related but Ive been using an Eva-dry in a large metal tool box I keep in my trunk (I also wipe down my tools after I'm finished with them) and have been doing this for about a month with no apparent rusting, are you saying its not worth messing with desiccant because it will absorb from the outside atmosphere and not just in the car or why? I certainly would not want to ruin my tools but how big of a threat is it? I just assumed that 'dehumidifier' would work well enough as long as I keep it 'charged'
It definitely works. I have this from Amazon, which is just a fancy plastic box containing the same beads inside the paper packets you get in shoes etc. It's re-usable though -- you plug it in to the wall once the beads are maxed out and it heats up and dries them out again.
I have a shitty leaky truck that fogs up terribly on the inside, but with this inside overnight it's noticably better (not completely fixed, but it's a really shitty truck).
I use this 'Eva-Dry' and once a month I plug it into an outlet (in another room) for a few hours to remove the moisture and make the pretty beads turn colors...is it necessary? I have no idea but I do know that Ive had it for about two years now and dont have rust. (they make a smaller/cheaper version but you might have to purge it more often)
Thanks for the critique. Here is a link to the dehumidifier
Essentially its a dehumidifier that sucks moisture out of the air. When it is plugged in, the heating coil causes the beads to release their moisture, essentially recharging the ability to dehumidify. I was hoping that by turning the circuit on with an inkbird or other hygrostat, I could set the dehumidifier to release moisture should my chamber get too dry.
Awesome setup and gorgeous woodwork!
Wanted to share some advice on the Keg Freezer setup as I have built a couple of these now.
Make sure that you have a temp controller that handles a 5 min cycle delay. Most digital temp controllers have this capability but the first one I bought did not and I had to replace the freezer after about a year due to compressor failure.
Also you mentioned moisture issues, you can take a look at these devices available on Amazon. I use these in mine and it helps quite a bit and all you have to do it plug them periodically in to re-charge. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BD0FN8A/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_3_r
Cheers!
I use one of these. https://www.amazon.com/Improved-Eva-dry-E-500-Renewable-Dehumidifier/dp/B00BD0FN8A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1476297977&sr=8-2&keywords=eva+dry And after each batch i spray down with star san and scrub it. then leave fermenter open.
I've been using one of these mini dehumidifiers, works pretty well:
It absorbs moisture, then once it is full, you plug it into an outlet and it heats up and drys out the moisture so that you can use it again. There are different sizes for various prices, but the above is what I have. I don't think I'd go to a smaller one, bc it does get filled up throughout 1 fermentation.
Figure out a drip tray solution. I'm using a stainless (18-10 so magnetic) drywall pan from home depot. I had to seal it with some clear caulk but its worked pretty well for some years.
Definitely plan on enough taps. Somewhere between 3 and 4 seems to be close to a sweet spot for me. You might want more depending but less than 3 limits your options.
Definitely get forward seal taps and go 100% stainless. The forward seal are MUCH nicer in an intermittent use home setup as far as keeping crap out and not sticking shut. The stainless is necessary if you EVER put cider or really low PH beers on tap (sours), the chrome will literally dissolve in those (yeah found that out AFTER I'd drank a keg of it.. lovely.. I guess it mostly passes through and we don't live forever anyway but still..).
Plan on one tap for water. Super cheap, and makes nice fizzy mixers for the non beer drinkers. However beer wants to be around 10-12 PSI and water wants to be closer to 20 to pour nicely. If you can put a Y on that line to pre-carb another keg bonus. This is also good for keeping the SO happy if they're not a beer drinker :) Oh and there are a lot of really kick ass sodas you can make from scratch as well, just make them as concentrate mixed with syrup then mix at pouring time (never ever ever ever put root beer in a beer line unless you're willing to toss all the plastic and rubber parts afterward - shit does NOT go away - which is why I mix at pouring time). If your feeling lazy the Torani syrups are pretty nice (and not to expensive).
Having independent pressure control on every tap, not necessary.. but nice. Having at least two different pressures available is however imho very useful, see above about water vs beer serving pressure. You can also force carb at 30psi in emergencies w/o having to putz to much with your regular setup as well. Multi-pressure regulators are a lot cheaper than they were 10-15 years ago.
Moisture control! Keezers condense like a bastard on the inside. The plug in moisture remover things (like this: https://www.amazon.com/Eva-Dry-Improved-500-Renewable-Dehumidifier/dp/B00BD0FN8A ) work pretty well, you can just buy damp-rid but the ability to just plug it in to dry it out is kinda convenient (yes you can dry out damp-rid in the microwave - lots of short bursts - or oven but its kind of a pita). If anyone has a better solution for this I'd like to hear about it.
Similar to the above any dings on the inside start to rust pretty quickly. There's probably a solution to that as well but I don't know what it is.
Make it nice enough that the SO (future SO) doesn't mind having it in the living room (bit of paint and touch ups goes a long way).
Do not drill through the side/back/front of the freezer itself. No matter how sure you are where the cooling coils are. You'll be wrong. I didn't make this mistake but know several who have and so far - 100% fail.
Figure out how to move the damn thing ahead of time, the collar adds a fair bit of weight (heeeeyyy buddies.. .beer?).
Skinning the lid seems like a good idea appearance wise but the springs aren't very strong so it doesn't take a whole lot to make it to heavy to stay up on its own.
Figure out how little collar you can get away with. This includes both headspace for the kegs and the biggest CO2 bottle you'll want to fit (10lb recommended as a nice plenty of co2/oh shit I had a leak and bled it all away trade off - I keep a 10lb as my main and a 5lb as the backup/portable) plus room for the taps themselves. But the lower the opening the easier it is to get kegs into it (out isn't so bad when they're empty) so don't add more space than really needed.
I store my spools that I don't use much in this storage with one of these thrown in. I can take it out and plug it into a wall outlet to dry it out. For my most used colors I just 3D printed a couple wall brackets for a couple dowel rods and leave those spools on the wall.
I use these they work great..one per safe
If you have access to power during the day, get some of these
Eva-dry E-500 Renewable Mini Dehumidifier https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BD0FN8A/
Get this for humidity works perfectly and is rechargeable
This has been fine for me: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BD0FN8A/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
5 gallon bucket with lid and rechargable desicant.
Get a plug in dehumidifier: https://www.amazon.com/Improved-Eva-dry-500-Renewable-Dehumidifier/dp/B00BD0FN8A/
In emergencies I will wrap the plant in wax cooking paper and bake it ontop of a hotplate and cookie sheet at ~200 degrees. It ruins the taste and becomes stupid crumbly later, but it can be the last choice to prevent mold and mildew from a juicy jane.Dehumidifier is best, but expensive and noisy and I hate that, so I stuck two of these in my closet for drying:https://www.amazon.com/Improved-Eva-dry-500-Renewable-Dehumidifier/dp/B00BD0FN8A/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=dehumidifier+passive&qid=1632062178&sr=8-10
You can literally bake them in the oven to 'regenerate' them (dry them back out) and they work very well. They also got the humidity below 70% in my grow-tent rather fast.Since there's no power or moving parts, they should last eons.
Renewable Mini Dehumidifier https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BD0FN8A/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apip_qwj5LKTlWRb9L
You all might consider getting one of these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BD0FN8A
You just plug it in to recharge it.
I like a contained single unit for some applications
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BD0FN8A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_wRG4aWceIYH38
This is where I got my inspiration from.
The reptile heating mat is a must. I also used the eva-dry e-500 instead of dessicant packs, but it can be too bulky. It's about the size of 1kg spool.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BD0FN8A/
I've got two waiting to build my enclosure and spool storage.
eva dry is what I use, based on recommendation here
I keep these handy for such situations
Eva-dry E-500 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BD0FN8A/
Ivation 13-Pint https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B8SCPZ4/
But it took me a bit to visualize what happened. Rather than bring water to the unit, I bring the bowl to the faucet. Usually to rinse rice but it also means attention is mostly optional.
I've never had a problem.
They live in a safe in my basement with several rechargeable dehumidifiers in it similar to this one:
https://www.amazon.com/Improved-Eva-dry-500-Renewable-Dehumidifier/dp/B00BD0FN8A
You take them out of the safe every couple of months and plug them in to an outlet overnight, and they heat up and dry themselves out.
First off, I’m so sorry for your loss. I can imagine no greater pain than losing a child. Please do not be afraid to reach out to a professional if you need help. There is no shame in reaching out to family, friends, or professionals.
There has been plenty of good cleaning advice posted in the thread. I’m sure your family meant well, but what they did was both irresponsible and almost certainly illegal. And they need to understand how their actions could have impacted you and themselves.
Since they left the guns outside overnight, I must assume that they are neither experienced with firearms nor are they licensed to own (state laws permitting). I say this believing that most firearm owners would know that leaving guns 1) outside 2) exposed to the elements 3) not in a secure location is the opposite of “best practice”. Furthermore, if they did all those things, it’s clear that they likely didn’t understand how to properly handle the firearm. They could have severely injured themselves or others transporting them, which would open the door to legal trouble for all parties.
If those firearms were stolen, both you and your family members would have likely been subject to legal consequences. And it’s not as though you could simply choose not to press charges - in many states, I suspect your family could have been charged with unlawful possession and negligence. And perhaps you as well for not having your guns secured. They NEED to understand how lucky they are that the worst outcome was a little water in the firearms.
Take care of yourself, first and foremost though. If you can’t have that conversation today, have it when you can. In the meantime, I would encourage you to buy a safe and put something like this in it to handle moisture.
If you are worried about having them in your home temporarily, there is NO shame in admitting it. speak to your local trusted FFL. In fact, Mine explicitly offers storage for people who are worried about their home situation. The fee is extremely low, there is no judgement, and the firearms are secured properly.
I wish you the best in this trying time.
Like this?
I use a plastic storage container with a seal on the lid and a renewable desiccant pack I found on Amazon
I use these in a storage container
New and Improved Eva-dry E-500... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BD0FN8A?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I use this thing to prevent this problem. Works great.
That's exactly what I was after as well. I'm also living in a Yellow-Red zone, and as my first adventure into permanent pier mounted and remote (powered & LAN) imaging, this seemed like the better/cheaper solution.
Photos of the build and finished observatory
I ended up coming across a design called Motel o' Scope on CN forums, and built the cement pier (12") and latch cover over the summer of 2016. It has survived almost two full seasons without issues, and two Canadian winters - this winter in particular has seen a lot of snow and -20C nights! I have a small ceramic bulb heater on a thermostat that keeps the inside around 5 degrees. My mount, scope and PC live outside now permanently.
It's an ingenious design really! The cover is latched in four places, two each side, and I added weather stripping and vinyl flashing over the bottom edges to prevent any rain running inwards. The scope is parked facing up, and the cover just lifts up and off, which I set on a tarp during use. I've had no issues with leaks or wind damage. To control the humidity inside (an issue during the Summer especially) I keep two Eva-dry Silica Renewable packs. They keep the humidity around 35-40%.
Dan's Pier Plates that makes the Motel o Scope hardware, also sells the pier mount plates. He provides all of the custom aluminum hardware to build the cover brackets and base. You do need to source the other materials yourself, like the foam board - he provides a detailed parts list, and was very helpful to deal with.
The aluminum hardware at the bottom clamps with rubber stripping under pressure against the concrete pillar, using long bolts/nuts - so it's easily detached if you ever needed to disassembled and remove the base altogether. There's a sealed board as a base surrounded by T-slot extruded aluminum framing. The actual cover is made of 1.5" hard-foam insulation board from Home Depot, and wrapped in Dacron fabric, primed and sealed, and painted with a UV reflective white acrylic paint - same sealing materials and processes used on small body winged aircraft.
Might just be too humid in there. I know a few people on this sub use something like this to control humidity in their keezer.
Any enclosed cabinets are going to retain moisture. Most houses should be built with this in mind. If you absolutely have to have something closed in then yes, you'll want something in there (full dehumidifier, heating rod, rechargeable dessicant) to absorb excess moisture. These work great for me:
I have one of those but found that I'm happier with the eva-dry
Here's mine. I run a magnetic drip tray, magnets are strong enough to support a full growler. I recently moved the gas manifold and CO2 tank outside because I had a series of leaks and that was an effort to eliminate one of the potential causes. I use an Eva Dry and a small USB fan and together they do a great job keeping things fresh and dry.
I really, really recommend one of the reusable moisture absorbers. ala https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BD0FN8A/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1