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Amazon states they are the 500’s in the description and calls them out as Z-wave plus in the product title. Lowe’s did not specify or list relevant part numbers that I could find but the pdf manual they have posted is for the 300’s. The price discrepancy (even without sale) is what caught my attention.
"New Model : GE Z-Wave Plus Wireless Smart Lighting Control Smart Dimmer, Paddle Style, In-Wall, Includes White & Light Almond Paddles, Works with Amazon Alexa, 14294" [link]
For those interested in the same switch, but is also a dimmer.... Amazon has them at an all-time-low of $30.09. (Normally $44.00)
That would be awesome! Do you have a link by any chance? If I look up "GE Z-wave dimmers" they seem to only have the one big paddle (so same button to dim and turn off) unless it's well hidden.
Jasco is the cheapest option as it lets you keep one of the 'dumb' switches. Problem is, the smart switch will always be up = on, down = off, while the dumb switch will alternate.
Outside of that I have had zero issues with the GE Enbrighten switches and dimmers. They're not the cheapest switch on the market and require a $20 'add-on' switch. But they function well.
Note: the 1st gen version of the GE switches are on sale at Amazon for $32. It's a good deal. It's not Z-wave plus, and there are some advanced features it lacks (double tap), but I have several sets and no issues.
Edit: scratch that, the ones labeled "1st gen" are what I'd consider 2nd, and they are Z-wave Plus. I'm not sure what the Second Gen (46203) is. Looks like just a shallower depth and some "quickwire" thing. People are also complaining about it not dimming LEDs. Stick with the "1st" gen 14294, it's a good dimmer and great price. Just picked up 3 more.
Edit 2: There's a combo pack with a 2nd gen dimmer and add-on for $47, which is damn good. Good enough it's worth looking into the new dimmer.
So I think it is the ballast. I didn’t quite understand your 2nd sentence. And the dimmer I’m using is the GE Enbrighten Smart Dimmer
Thanks for the advice. I did notice other fixtures aren’t too expensive, as a worst case scenario.
I used that
GE Enbrighten Z-Wave Plus Smart Dimmer Switch, Full Dimming, in-Wall, Incl. White and Lt. Almond Paddles, Repeater/Range Extender, Zwave Hub Required, Works with SmartThings, Wink, Alexa, 14294 [link]
Your wall switch should definitely still control it if you turn it off and on again. Personally, That light is stupid though and you are better off with a regular light and changing out the actual switch for something like this. I know you said it was a mistake but if you are still in the return phase i would definitely return for a normal light and get the switch i recommended. That way you can app control or control it like usual. The only thing about the switches is you NEED a neutral in the box.
The GE Model 14294 is $40 on amazon
Its "officially" recognized by wink - Linking this switch up with wink hub 2 is super easy
Why are you trying to have a decora switch that controls a smart bulb? Why not just put in a smart switch and a dumb bulb? Something like [link]. I feel like there's a part of your use case that I'm not understanding.
I meant an actual wired wall switch that looks like a normal switch. Something like this: [link]
Open the blinds on your windows and most of the light in your house will be automatically dimmed at night.
Philips hue are the easiest to get started, you literally put the bulbs in, make an account, connect the philips hue hub to your network, then use an app on your phone to control the lights. Then you can get an Echo dot/Alexa and connect the philips hue account to it - now you can control the lights with your voice. If you have non standard light bulbs(a19) or you don't want people disabling your bulbs by turning off your light switches (which turns off hue bulbs until physical switch is flipped back on) you can get GE light switches like this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MUCZA1C/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1, which will require a hub like the smartthings hub, but now you can control these switches with your echo dot. Now that you have a smartthings hub you can get some window/door sensors for cheap like these which work great and go on sale for $10 every now and then https://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/visonic-mct-340-e-wireless-door-window-temperature-sensor-2.4ghz-zigbee-now-works-natively-with-samsung-smartthings-hub/. And motion sensors for 12-15 https://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/bosch-security-motion-sensor-pir-pet-immune-for-samsung-smartthings-and-other-smart-hubs-with-zigbee-wireless/
And this lock which can be controlled by smarthings/echo https://www.amazon.com/August-Smart-Lock-Pro-generation/dp/B0765JNS2D/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1546464113&sr=8-4&keywords=august+lock
And this cheap smoke detector connects to smartthings- https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-Detector-Carbon-Monoxide/dp/B00KMHXFAI/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=
Also thermostats may or may not be easy, you can remove your thermostat and send a picture of the wires to Nest/ecobee or look on their website to be able to tell if yours is easily done or not. I would probably recommend Nest, I use ecobee though, I liked some of its features more. https://www.amazon.com/ecobee3-Thermostat-Sensor-Wi-Fi-Generation/dp/B00ZIRV39M/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1546464306&sr=8-4&keywords=ecobbee
I have many of these all over my house
GE Enbrighten Z-Wave Plus Smart Light Dimmer [link]
I use these light switches around the house and they work great with Vivint.
There's these outlets that you can use that's from the same brand and work on Z wave but I personally don't have any but sure they would work just as well
Assuming you have SmartThings (based on the /r), you can use any Z-wave or Zigbee switch. I've tried multiple (reputable) brands, based on what's on sale, and my experience has been they're all pretty much the same. But all mine look like modern paddle switches, there are other options out there.
It's debatable, but I'd call the 'gold standard' to be the GE switches. I was just providing a link to them in a thread yesterday and noticed they were on sale for $33, which is a damn good price. Looks like they rolled out an updated version so they're discounted, and personally I don't think the upgrades mean much. I just picked up 4 more, because... why not.
When those aren't on sale I've been going to Zooz. I like their small company attitude and they have terrific customer support. And they frequently have sales. You can get them on Amazon, but the sales are on their website.
These are the types of wall plates that I use. Easy to find in single, 2-, 3-, and even 4- gang. I have a custom made 7-gang at my house, so everything I've bought since was done to match that style.
But again, all these are because I wanted modern paddle switches and the "decora" style wall plates. You can get smart switches in traditional rockers, or modern version like the Caseta switches (which still use the decora shape).
Currently, the Gen 1 switch is on sale on amazon for $27.09 which is cheaper than the 24 pack of Gen 2 and would be good for testing.
I use zwave GE smart switches. They are reliable and work amazing! I have one for my light and fan in the bathroom currently with a few different automation. zero issues.
I would stay away from wifi light bulbs and wifi switches. Z wave is probably the best connection for those kinds of devices, especially if you want reliable fast local automation.
I am mostly using GE dimmers in my home - https://www.amazon.com/GE-Enbrighten-Repeater-SmartThings-14294/dp/B01MUCZA1C
But to be clear, I've using other dimmers (lutron was my last one) and had nearly the same dimming result.
I'll have to check on the bulbs and inserts, but for the most part they are fairly inexpensive name brand. I wanna say phillips or ge. The inserts were $10-$12, and the LED bulbs were probably $10-$15 for a 4 pack.
When I was disappointed by the dimming level, I started looking at dimmers at first, but read that often it's the lights that are the issue. Drivers I believe.
Anyway, I don't mind paying for a step up in lights that are likely to meet my goals. 10% might work, 5% would be even better.
Why not install "smart" light switches which are directly wired to "dumb" bulbs?
E.g. Z-wave toggle wall switch.
Ahh if you have a hub you can use z-wave switches with an addon switch. Something like this:
There are other brands, I'm just familiar with that one. You need one of each, the main switch + an addon.
Repurpose the TP link ones somewhere else where you only have a single switch controlling a fixture.
I use this for the primary switch:
I use this for the secondary connection:
Can confirm it works.
Visually, the only difference is the add-on switch doesn't have an LED light
A comment I made the other day-> here
Since you have to make a rule for every configuration, you can make the rule(s) that when A turns on and off is also controls B and C. but you don't make the reciprocal rules for B so it would be individually controlled .
and these are my z-wave switches of choice. Note the choices of paddle and toggle switches.
Lutron is good, but I can't justify the price.
My favorite is still the GE z-wave line. They have paddle and toggle switches which look normal and work great with any hub.
Dimmer - $35
Non Dimmer - Apparently also $35
I use GE switches with SmartThings. You would need a hub for sure, keep an eye out since SmartThings goes on sale quite a bit (usually $50 for the hub standalone).
As for the switches, you would need 3 smart switches and 3 addon switches (these work at the traveler location).
Main switch [link]
Addon switch: [link]
I've been using the GE ones. [link]
So for multi-way setups. You need ONE master switch if you will then the add-on switches for the rest. So for a 3-way setup (2 switches control the same light or group of lights) you need:
Quantity 1 of [link]
For a 4-way setup (3 switches control the same light or groups of lights) you need:
Quantity 2 of [link]
For all these setups, YOU MUST HAVE NEUTRALS!
Hope that helps, cheers!
EDIT: I missed your dimmer bit, you need these as your master switch: [link]
You could keep your current bulbs and install a smart switch instead, this is a popular option:
You would need a hub with that, but considering smartthings is selling for $50 on Amazon it could be more cost effective depending on the amount of bulbs you would have to replace if you went with smart bulbs instead.
For the smart bulb option I'd say check out sylvania lightify. Lowes has them on sale now for 75% off. They're $7.50 for the basic white ones. It can pair directly with most smart home hubs like smartthings or wink so if you already have one it would be very cost effective.
Ah, so purchase 2 GE Dimmer switches like these and 1 (possibly more) add-on switches like this?
Edit: removed my extra question. I'll go update my knowledge on z-wave vs zigbee.
First thing, I wouldn't recommend the 1000 watt, because it's one of the old models with no neutral. This is fine for incandescent, but if you ever switch to dimmable LEDs, they won't work properly with this. I'd recommend skipping Lowes' offerings and just going with this
Second, it's not a button, it's a little piece of plastic you can pull out to airgap the switch. This will disable the switch when pulled out and make it safe to change the fixture.