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I really do hope we get the votes in the Primary.
I recently read “On Tyranny” and it’s an amazing short read. I highly suggest everyone read this, it’s super cheap on Amazon: On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century https://www.amazon.com/dp/0804190119/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_ArplBb6PACS88
Point is, Trump is following directly in the footsteps of many fascist leaders of the past and I expect one or many of the following to happen:
Suspension of voting due to “outside” vote manipulation
Terrorist attack that emboldens his base and allows him to take State of Emergency control of the government
The firing of Muller and taking the law into his own hands
You might say “That’s crazy” but look how far we’ve come. Compared to previous candidates and presidents Trump is becoming untouchable. Things that would have destroyed the career of other presidents haven’t done jack to him.
>In Arizona, Florida and North Carolina, measures are being floated to the press, grinding their way through the legislature, or being mishandled in ways that would restrict access to the ballot or otherwise make voting more difficult.
>Not coincidentally, these large, populous, varying-degrees-of-purple states will be essential in determining the outcome of the 2020 elections.
>“It’s a contagion,” Rick Hasen, an election law professor at the University of California Irvine who runs the Election Law Blog, told TPM. “What’s so shocking about it is that it’s spreading. It’s not just that one legislature is out of control, it’s that it’s a changing of the norms towards using maximal political power even in the face of a political rejection.”
This is what creeping fascism looks like.
I highly recommend reading Timothy Snyder's "On Tyranny" for more information on spotting and dealing with authoritarianism. It's a fast read, and inexpensive.
The book <em>On Tyranny</em> goes into this. Every day becomes a new normal. What we tolerate today is drastically different from what we would have tolerated 6 months ago.
Edit: if you haven't read this book, you should. It's only 6 bucks on Amazon, and you can finish it in a few hours. It is incredibly insightful.
Gotta admit I read this in a few hours and it's a great book that is really simple to read, but is packed with history which enables us to see that it's our responsibility to speak and act in a way to create a better society, rather than allow narratives and debates to be overtaken by totalitarian or fascist agendas.
> Perhaps the greatest contribution in Snyder’s clarifying and unnerving work is buried in its epilogue, and it shows the slippery intellectual path from freedom to tyranny. After the Cold War, he writes, we were enthralled by the politics of inevitability, the notion that history moved inexorably toward liberal democracy. So we lowered our defenses. Now, instead, we are careening toward the politics of eternity, in which a leader rewrites our past as “a vast misty courtyard of illegible monuments to national victimhood.” Inevitability was like a coma; eternity is like hypnosis.
> “The danger we now face is of a passage from the politics of inevitability to the politics of eternity, from a naive and flawed sort of democratic republic to a confused and cynical sort of fascist oligarchy,” Snyder concludes. “The path of least resistance leads directly from inevitability to eternity.”
> A possible detour from that path may be found in “On Tyranny,” a memorable work that is grounded in history yet imbued with the fierce urgency of what now.
A good book, and practical on what to do. Available for under $10 at Amazon
Critical thinking did.
I know you refuse to believe it, but at least listen to the argument. I am taking inspiration from Timothy Snyder's "On Tyranny". He's a historian on Nazism and Stalinism... I think we both can agree that he knows what he's talking about.
Here's a list of thing that can be connected to Snyder's warning signs:
Trump refuses to accept universally accepted (by international monitors, journalists, courts, observers etc.) democratic process.
Trump does not seek a bilateral international policy but prefers to view American hegemony as the most important goal to which he is willing to break international laws (i.e assassinating Solemeini).
Trump seeks to display military power when he has a opportunity to display his presidency.
Trump think that society should be ruled along a strict hierarchy with women and minorities having their assigned place.
He ignores rule of law and political tradition habitually.
He lambasts free press.
He encourages paramilitary militia ("Stand back, Stand by").
He abuses language and it's meaning ("Alternative Facts").
He identifies foreign threats and uses them to consolidate his political position ("The Caravan")
I could go on, but if you refuse to accept all of these arguments then there's nothing I can do to make you reconsider.
Everyone who cares about stopping this shit needs to read <em>On Tyranny</em> by Timothy Snyder.
I shamelessly plug it here because this problem is urgent and important, and Snyder's book is a very short, very direct, and very easy read, with clear instructions for how every individual can help prevent this bullshit from gaining ground.
I'm disappointed, but not surprised.
I'm mostly no contact with my family of origin, but reached out to the one young adult woman in my family of origin and told her that I will help her if she ever needs it. I figure knowing she has one sane relative with resources helps relieve some anxiety.
It really solidifies that my instincts were correct. They were correct back then and they're correct now. I knew my family and culture of origin was trash, this is just more proof, add it to the pile. Kinda simplified no contact. Oh, I was right. That sucks. Now to figure out how to fight back effectively.
"On Tyranny - twenty lessons from the twentieth century" by Timothy Snyder
Us. The people who recognize what is happening 1) must use every tool we have to make others aware. 2) Fight back against propaganda & mis/disinformation. 3) support candidates nationwide. 4) Vote and get everyone you know to vote.
There is a book called On Tyranny I highly recommend reading it as it has many more suggestions.
I think yes, it basically does boil down to that. I don't deny what a bunch of people have said – you can't always count on consensus and expertise to give you the right information. But that should at least be your starting point. The starting point for a lot of people on this sub seems to be, you have what the vast majority of experts think about an issue, but there are examples of them being wrong or disingenuous in the past, so we should give equal time to people who disagree with them. That's a recipe for a very misinformed society susceptible to some very bad mistakes.
I'd recommend this book for more on what I'm talking about re fascism.
I'll watch that this afternoon after work.
If you want a major oh-sitzky moment, read this book. It's small, can be read in one sitting, but it's going to make you say "Oh shit, that is happening right now".
On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century
And it was written BEFORE all the Trump crap broke loose. It's pretty much a warning of what to look out for...... and if you actually understand what to look out for, it's scary AF.
>No laws that trump passed¨
Do you mean EOs?
>isn’t that what really matters?
No, rhetoric, governing principle, and more also matters.
If you're actually interested in this topic, read this: https://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Twenty-Lessons-Twentieth-Century/dp/0804190119
> Perhaps the greatest contribution in Snyder’s clarifying and unnerving work is buried in its epilogue, and it shows the slippery intellectual path from freedom to tyranny. After the Cold War, he writes, we were enthralled by the politics of inevitability, the notion that history moved inexorably toward liberal democracy. So we lowered our defenses. Now, instead, we are careening toward the politics of eternity, in which a leader rewrites our past as “a vast misty courtyard of illegible monuments to national victimhood.” Inevitability was like a coma; eternity is like hypnosis.
> “The danger we now face is of a passage from the politics of inevitability to the politics of eternity, from a naive and flawed sort of democratic republic to a confused and cynical sort of fascist oligarchy,” Snyder concludes. “The path of least resistance leads directly from inevitability to eternity.”
> A possible detour from that path may be found in “On Tyranny,” a memorable work that is grounded in history yet imbued with the fierce urgency of what now.
A good book, and practical on what to do. Read it in a few hours. Available for under $10 at Amazon
edit: what to do
Honestly... at this point. Send them a copy of this.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0804190119/
On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century
Encourage them to vote. Encourage them to be involved with their community. That's the best you can do for now.
There has been a pretty substantial drop off at least locally for me since the 2018 elections. While it went pretty good nationally, not so much at a local level. We need to find a way to keep people engaged without feeling distraught. A book recommendation: On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century. It is a short read and you could find the twenty lessons summarized if you so choose. The lessons are really about staying involved in the things you can change. Simple things you can do to be a citizen and patriot centered around protecting the institutions that move our Democracy forward.
If you like the article, I definitely recommend you read the full essay (where this was excerpted from). It is a quick read (maybe 1.5 hours) and really contextualizes the reasoning behind each point into lessons learned from the 20th century. I cannot recommend it highly enough: On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century https://www.amazon.com/dp/0804190119/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_A0MRCbQK95ME4
I'm definitely concerned. Trump doesn't respect democracy or the rule of law, or the constitution, separation of powers, independent judiciary etc. All of our "American values" are being shredded. These values transcend conservative or liberal.
Frankly, both the DNC and GOP probably don't believe in democracy either, but Trump is in power now and has pushed norms to such extremes, I'm concerned we'll wake up in a few short years to find our democratic republic has disappeared. Therefore recommend: On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century. Read history and learn how it happens, and be prepared in case he tries stuff.
I am of the firm belief that something major is going to happen here by the end of the summer. I don't think it'll be something set up by the government, but I think they will know in advance and they will allow it to happen. Trump wants as much power as he can and after a catastrophic event he will be able to strip us of so many freedoms. I hope I am wrong, but my gut says I am not.
EDIT: From Timothy Snyder's fantatic book On Tyranny
>Be calm when the unthinkable arrives. When the terrorist attack comes, remember that all authoritarians at all times either await or plan such events in order to consolidate power. Think of the Reichstag fire. The sudden disaster that requires the end of the balance of power, the end of opposition parties, and so on, is the oldest trick in the Hitlerian book. Don't fall for it.
Seriously, if you don't have a copy of this book yet, get one. Even if we are way off about Trump, it is still an important read.
Democratic reform needs to continue to be the corner stone of politicians we put in power moving forward. Sam's conversation with Timothy Snyder and Snyder's book On Tyranny have been really impact for me in how I approach the political world. The 20 rules he lays out, if more of us followed would create a strong resistance towards bad actors trying to take advantage of our political process. Things like defending institutions, pay for investigative journalism, speaking out and donating and participating to causes that matter to you.
I've read some of Secondhand Time and it is in my subject area, so here are some thoughts, although I think I have to stress this is just my personal take.
I both agree and disagree with the OP. I think in some ways learning about the history of the 20th Century in general does lead to at least the conclusion that we cannot expect a general concept of "Progress". This is why Nazi Germany and the Holocaust in particular stand as such stark monuments in the history of the 20th century. This happened in a country that a few years or so before the Nazi seizure of power was (at least on paper) a relatively progressive democratic society, that was highly educated, with some of the best universities and artistic and scientific minds in the world, and was a major part of the world economy. While a lot of Weimar Germany's history has been reinterpreted in a "coming of the Nazis" narrative, in, say, 1928 they were an extremely fringe group that was losing votes and seats and had barely regained its legal status (it scraped 810 thousand votes in the 1928 German legislative election). What got the country (and subsequently the world) to 1933 - and 1939 - and 1941 - and 1945 were a series of catastrophes and contingencies that were not obvious or inevitable at the time.
As to specifically the Soviet experience as relayed in Secondhand Time, I think there's even more complications. I don't think the Soviet experience could happen anywhere, and I think it can be misleading-to-dangerous to make those assumptions. George Orwell is pretty much the household name he is (sorry Eric Blair) because of 1984, and much of what that book is trying to do is describe - in a fictional future - Orwell's understanding of Stalin's Soviet Union transposed to Britain. Much of this is also satire of World War II Britain itself (the Ministry of Truth is basically supposed to be the wartime Ministry of Information), but there are also things that Orwell didn't know or understand about the Soviet Union that warp using this book as a text to understand the USSR. A big issue is honestly with Newspeak - while there were big ideological and political reasons for how language was shaped and used in the USSR (historian Stephen Kotkin has referred to it as "speaking Soviet"), it also needs to be placed in the context of its time and place. The Russian language was seen as needing orthographic reform, and reforming national languages was by no means a project unique to Stalin's Soviet Union, or even communist states: Chinese and Turkish are some of the better-known language modernizations happening at the same time.
Anyway, I'm getting a bit off topic. Back to the USSR/Russia proper. There are a variety of reasons for this, but the area tends to do history hard - there are cultural, social, institutional, economic and historic reasons for this. While I'm not totally fond of using cycles in history, Stephen Kotkin (same historian as mentioned above) has talked about how Russian history (at least in political terms) does tend to go through phases of reform - stagnation - collapse - radical renewal. These aren't inevitable, nor are they the same each time. But there's enough of a sense of this kind of instability that average people in the region themselves expect it as at least a reasonable possibility - there is a reason capital flight has been such an ongoing issue in Russia since the early 1990s, because anyone with a decent amount of money would rather stash it abroad than leave it in-country.
And it's not exactly clear what will come next. I'll try to avoid breaking the 20 year rule, but I would note that Putin is 68 now - the same age Yeltsin was when he resigned, and not too far off from the age when Yeltsin (and Brezhnev, and Stalin) died. But there is no real sense of who or what will come next. It's very hard to not think of Après moi, le déluge.
But: that's not the same as expecting collectivization, or the Purges, or the gulags to come back. And this is I think where the role of a historian comes in. Because those events were in many ways specific to its time and place. The Soviet Union, let alone Stalin's Soviet Union, was not an obvious or inevitable outcome even in 1917, but was the product of breakdowns caused by the First World War, political crises, and a brutal Civil War that not only saw the Bolsheviks win but heavily shaped among the ruling Party and Government how they should rule. They were also a party dedicated to a view of history prioritizing industry and industrial workers, but who were ruling a vastly rural, agricultural and largely illiterate country. Which is to say that even the USSR of the 1920s and 1930s was not a USSR that still existed in the 1980s or early 1990s, when most of the population was urban, there was almost universal basic education, and a significant portion of the population had university education and also began to have a stronger sense of wanting a consumer society, and seeing how the Soviet version increasingly did not measure up to foreign versions.
Which is a very long way to say: catastrophes and dark periods of history absolutely can happen anywhere. I think that in a broad sense, historian Timothy Snyder captures this well in his book (based off of a Facebook post after the 2016 US election, I believe), that there are lessons to be learned from this, and that if we don't want such dark periods to come, we can't just assume that we're too advanced or the system works - we often need to actively work to stop these from happening. But I still think Soviet history in particular needs to be located in its proper country, time and place. There's nothing inevitable, or even likely, that those dark parts of history in particular will happen again there, or anywhere else.
Related, the book On Tyranny: twenty lessons from the Twentieth Century by Timothy Snyder is worth the $6 and a read through.
On Tyranny is an interesting read right now https://www.amazon.com/dp/0804190119/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_E-TsFbSMPNQPQ
Sigh, the point being that Trump not only was accepted, but revered.
Just an FYI, I'm a former Republican, I was getting tired of them under Obama and Trump was the last straw.
I've read a third of POTUS Biogrpahies/autobiographies alone not counting other world or political figures. That excludes the hundreds of History books I've read.
You're understanding of History, events and political science is appalling
Written by Former Seceratary of State Madalin Albreight, she drops the ball as most do on Trump, but warned we are close.
She also was a jew who had to leave Europe during all the Bullshit . https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/fascism/18661486/item/28305890/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA14WdBhD8ARIsANao07hHoHMypH-g8qZzcarZCCFmRte1a8A8SLjQkmjknSE8xw4EAU9RWKEaAh9hEALw_wcB#isbn=0062802186&idiq=28305890
It was on the way there before as History/Political Science Professors warned Bush and the beginning of the destruction then.
https://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Twenty-Lessons-Twentieth-Century/dp/0804190119/ref=asc_df_0804190119/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312034012759&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15935289286145640755&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9021299&hvtargid=pla-432400226780&psc=1
Psyciotrsts warned of Trump with thousands signing a petition to have him metnally evaluated https://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Case-Donald-Trump-Psychiatrists/dp/1250179459
Again, this is about someone who defined a Party and a party that willingly accepted NAZI policies.
Where do I send your armband?
*Popping out of this character for a moment. Thank you for the first genuine response I have received from someone on this website in about 10 years. Is this the book you are referring to? I'll definitely check it out if it is.
https://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Twenty-Lessons-Twentieth-Century/dp/0804190119
"Eh you're going down a pretty nebulous path if you do go down that route." - Don't those typically lead to the most profound and concrete Truths?
"Tyrants don't generally withhold information..." - An intelligent and cunning Tyrant would use whatever means available to it to enshrine its power and longevity.
"Questioning the institutions is important, accountability is important, disagreements are needed...going down the path of "those guys over there are terrorists and we need the 2nd amendment specifically to use against those guys" is fucking dangerous..." - How do you think any regime in Human history obtained and maintained its Power?
Much like the checks and balances of the Federal government and its 3 estates, non-governmental institutions(estates) have been recognized for their usefulness in maintaining order and accountability.
The 4th Estate (media) has given private and corporate enterprise the ability to fact check and hold Power accountable. A mechanism to check the power held by the Federal Government and keep Tyranny at bay from its inevitable encroachment. However, like all institutions, the 4th Estate is subject to corruption.
There is a 5th estate that is held by the Public however.
The Second Amendment.
Its purpose is designed to cast a healthy Specter of fear over those in Power that if they do not fully commit and execute the duties of which they are charged (to provide for the security and well being of the citizenry), their very lives and the lives of those they love are in jeopardy.
Tebi nije jasno da nacizam nije specifična korporacija koja je iz vedra neba započeta u isključivo jednom delu sveta i koja kao takva, kad izgubi dovoljno health poena, nestane?
>Koje su to nepoznate odlike fasizma?
Pošto je za tebe fašizam = sve što Putin kaže da je loše, mogu jedino da te usmerim na sažvakanu stručnu literaturu:
https://www.amazon.nl/Tyranny-Twenty-Lessons-Twentieth-Century/dp/0804190119/
https://www.amazon.nl/How-Democracies-Die-International-Bestseller/dp/0241381355/
https://www.amazon.nl/How-Fascism-Works-Politics-Them/dp/0525511857/
Nadam se da ćeš da uvažiš. Ovo ipak nije pisao Dugin.
Pošto iz mog komentara nisi skontao zašto poredim sa nemačkom:
This is a very good book on what it's like when democracy collapses, and what to do if you find yourself in a situation where it's happening: https://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Twenty-Lessons-Twentieth-Century/dp/0804190119
Assassination attempt on the third highest public official in America and second in line in presidential succession. 10 days before elections. Please consider reading "On Tyranny" by Timothey Snyder:
https://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Twenty-Lessons-Twentieth-Century/dp/0804190119
My american friends, it may be time to start keeping this pocket-sized book in your pockets:
https://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Twenty-Lessons-Twentieth-Century/dp/0804190119
You may want to buy a few copies of this book and pass it around to your friends and family:
https://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Twenty-Lessons-Twentieth-Century/dp/0804190119
It's pocket sized
Found the book thank you!
I read this book, and it was almost like a republican checklist of what they are doing.
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https://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Twenty-Lessons-Twentieth-Century/dp/0804190119
I think it's scarier that it's not surprising...
https://www.amazon.ca/Tyranny-Twenty-Lessons-Twentieth-Century/dp/0804190119
Yep.
pretty much all outlined in this book: https://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Twenty-Lessons-Twentieth-Century/dp/0804190119/ref=nodl_
https://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Twenty-Lessons-Twentieth-Century/dp/0804190119
Great read for anyone interested in the road Poland, Brazil, India, US, or Tunisia have been on since the last decade or so.
Dude you told me to read the right books. Im asking what they are.. You seem pretty confident in your opinions despite going against virtually every study, analysis, class, book, and movie I've ever seen in my 53 years. You seriously don't have an independent source to support you? I can name 5 book off the top of my head. There are literally thousands of written works about fascism. Virtually none of them seriously theorize that its actually a left wing ideology.
Try the following:
https://twitter.com/1SarahRose/status/826116204301516800
If you want something meatier, I recommend this or you can just read the review for free here.
We're in the middle of a culture war because the President encourages violence at his rallies and encourages chants to lock his political opponents up. We're in the middle of a culture war because the President mocks a woman whose account of sexual assault he says is credible, has dozens of sexual assault allegations against himself, and bragged about committing sexual assault. We're in the middle of a culture war because the President has been implicated in multiple federal crimes. We're in the middle of a culture war because the President finds no difference between fascist neo-Nazis who murder people and the counter-protesters who show up to combat them.
Spare me your incredulity of the left. You're part of the problem, but admitting you're wrong requires an iota of courage and a commitment to the principles of liberal democracy.
You want a book? Maybe read something other than Mein Kempf. Better yet, read it so that you can understand where Trump's coming from, because it's the only book I've ever heard it reported that he's actually read.
Also read On Tyranny by Snyder. A quick read that’s very much worth your time.
https://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Twenty-Lessons-Twentieth-Century/dp/0804190119
Have you read On Tyranny by Timothy Snyder? I bought this book about a decade ago (last year, when it came out). If I remember correctly, he wrote it shortly after Trump was elected as a list of 20 warning signs to look out for to ensure that it doesn't go the fascism route.
Chapter 2 is titled: Defend institutions. The idea of this chapter is that institutions have to be protected or they will fall. My favorite anecdote in the book is in this chapter. He talks about how a german jew newspaper wrote an editorial in 1933 more or less telling it's readers to calm down, there was no way that the Nazis would be able to actually follow through with the horrible things outlined in nazi newspapers. Describing balances of power and such that would keep it from happening. Eerily similar to people today, and this book rings true more and more each day. It is less than 100 pages, everyone should read it.
Timothy Snyder WIKI if you would like to know more about the author
Edit: I made myself want to read it again to see how well it held up over all, a year later. I just wanted to post this from the chapter mentioned above regarding institutions.
“Sometimes institutions are deprived of vitality and function, turned into a simulacrum of what they once were, so that they gird the new order rather than resisting it. This is what the Nazis called Gleichschaltung.”
> This is not just a case of poor vetting. It is the product of a deliberate attempt to stack the federal courts with young right-wing judges who place ideology over the rule of law.
> Trump came into office with more than 100 court vacancies to fill, thanks to the Republicans’ masterful stonewalling of President Obama’s nominees after they took control of the Senate in 2014. Trump wants to seize the opportunity that creates to reshape the judiciary for decades to come and has given his controversial White House Counsel, Don McGahn, the lead role in that task.
It's a concern. We could wake up and find we're living in a fascist state where the rule of law no longer matters. It just matters that you're "on side" with the government and politicians and elite of the day.
If people haven't read it yet, I strongly recommend: On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century It is very well reviewed
> The intention of the order is clear: If the ESB were to factor in a long term target that matched the over-riding goal of the Paris climate treaty (keeping global warming well below 2°C), it would no doubt produce a document for the rapid decarbonisation of Australia’s grid.
and
> “We need to fix our broken political system. We need to rid it of big corporate donations and the corrupt revolving door between politicians and powerful board rooms. Only then will we see real action on climate change from the government.
And there it is. The pivotal problem with many modern liberal democracies is that they are being subverted by wealthy and corporate interests to ensure policy that benefits them at the expense of all others, particularly future generations in the example of climate change. At the same time Russia and other autocratic states are doing their best to subvert democracy and weaken our democratic institutions to their benefit, so we all need to hold our politicians to account on their support of democratic institutions eg. On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century
The US is no longer a democracy : Our democracy no longer represents the people. Here's how we fix it | Larry Lessig | TEDxMidAtlantic and getting money out of politics is the just about the ONLY issue that both Democrat and Republican bases can agree on which will improve the democracy and functioning of the country. For a recent examples, you need only look at TYT channel, such as this story: Billionaires To Republicans: What Are We Paying You For?and Is The DNC REALLY Tackling Money In Politics?. Frankly, I've only seen a few US political leaders who are NOT subject to their donor base ie. Bernie Sanders OWNS Ted Cruz On Money In Politics
The interesting thing is that large corporations don't have to be in conflict with the environment - it's possible to design markets which can work efficiently, achieve society's goals, and don't decimate our environment, however we need to recognise that the current economic system is unsustainable, and needs reform/improvement. ie. Ray Anderson: The business logic of sustainability 16m and/or this excerpt from The Corporation - Ray Anderson on Sustainability 9m
Well, I think that's an interesting point you make. ‘No One in Ohio Is Asking About Russia’: Nina Turner Says Voters Care More About ‘Jobs’
I'm very concerned about Russia, but I'm ALSO am worried that the DNC will be ineffectual and make the whole situation worse by completely failing to be a credible opposition.
Can I have one opinion from you? What should the DNC do about these polling numbers? - Trump's Polls In The Gutter... Democrats Somehow Worse. Does this concern you?
edit: and to be clear I wasn't suggesting you were making a salary working for a SuperPAC manipulating people on social media, like Correct The Record. I have to wonder actually whether the Russians were behind the Bernie Bros brouhaha - Were "Bernie Bros" Really Russian Agents All Along?
I'm sure you've read On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century
Well, it doesn't have to be that way - Legalized Corruption of Government Exposed by Abramoff
Sure, things do change. But says who you have to allow the abandonment to take place. I think the fix is a constitutional amendment (Koch Brother Minions Booed At Montana Medicaid Townhall ), because the whole of DC is now addicted.
Yeah. I was meaning that he was choosing to only speak to the high level. If he speaks to detail, it will become a promise and people can then claim he doesn't have integrity. If you keep the language to the high level, the specifics of exactly what the promise is and what's delivered are unclear, and he can do ANYTHING and claim that he's achieving his promise.
MAGA is a great example - "great again" is specific to each person, and he's letting them define it and letting them think he knows exactly what that is, and what's required to achieve it.
NLP has two models that are pretty important. Milton model and Meta model. Milton is very abstract and high level, and Meta is specific and concrete. By keeping most of the promises abstract, it's hard to hold him to them.
There's more info here: but I'd suggest watching this: Dilbert Creator Scott Adams on Donald Trump's "Linguistic Kill Shots" and also Why the 'Dilbert' creator is supporting Donald Trump - note he doesn't support Trump, he's just analysing and opining on Trump's success.
My concern with using all these techniques to influence people unconsciously is very possibly not in their highest good (they didn't give conscious consent). I value democracy, and that means people consciously choosing what and how their government does. Also, many people have real concerns that the country may be going in a direction which will change the fabric of the republic.
Yes, that is the goal. It happened before, and it's happening again now. Check out On Tyranny
Great review of the book - it's a positive look at a concerning topic. I read it in a few hours and recommend it to all here. Here's a post I did to someone else with content about the book:
For all those who are interested in learning the signs of impending dictatorship, and more importantly what to do as an average citizen (don't think it can't happen here, because many people in history did), I cannot recommend this book enough. Also it's a good pocketbook size.
On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century
If you want a video, you can watch this talk: Timothy Snyder, "On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons From The 20th Century" and a book review by Chicago Tribune
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This is certainly a concern. There was a recent discussion about a book from Timothy Snyder: On Tyranny
Restricting the travel and persecution of a political opponent certainly is in there. It's un-American.
I do recommend the book On Tyranny which traces a history of fascism in the 20th century, up to the present and has 20 lessons on what an individual can do to prevent that happening to our republic.
The author also wrote an article: Donald Trump and the New Dawn of Tyranny
I'm pointing out history.
I'm not sure what part of that you need me to 'prove', but it's all easily available on the internet or in your public library.
Heck, here's a good start for you, if you're interested.
It would be useful for /u/KEKconfusa as well, to try to get him to break out of all of that non-stop NPC messaging.
It has some very useful guidelines, if you're interested in protecting democracy against fear-mongering demagoguery.
On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century by Timothy Snyder
No, propaganda aka "facts for people who want intellectual cover to rationalize their darkest feelings".
Some politicians try to bring us together, others try to split us apart and encourage nativist sentiments.
There are many factors to high housing prices and many solutions... but like all wannabe neo-facists, they always reduce complex situations to the same simple but wrong conclusion "it's the fault of the immigrants!!"
It's seriously always the same.
>Don't have a job? It's the immigrants' fault!
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>Taxes too high? It's the immigrants' fault!
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>Crime too high? It's the immigrants' fault!
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>Don't have a girlfriend? It's the immigrants' fault!
Will work on anyone who doesn't know their history.
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