For further reading on this, I highly recommend Kevin Kruse's One Nation Under God which goes deep into the process of anti-FDR businessmen creating the modern notion of "under God freedoms" to mean anti-government, anti-corporate tax libertarianism in the guise of religion. Very eye-opening, I can't recommend it enough.
This has been a thing for quite a few decades now when evangelists became bedfellows with the GOP. And we’ve seen the progression ever since.
Check out this book- fascinating and disturbing at the same time
https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-God-Corporate/dp/1501238213
Why do you think there isn't evidence of malice? Don't you think it would be suppressed when there is such disparate power between the wealthy(capitalists) and the rest of us? You can find it if you look.
Here's a good resource: https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-God-Corporate/dp/1501238213
>But if we are talking about what happened inevitably when a system is tried does that not mean we should change the definition of communism to "A theoretical economic system used by authoritarian dictators to gain power over the masses."
Because that's not inevitable, as the circumstances have substantially changed. That was the outcome when there was a vanguard and uneducated peasants who couldn't read or write.
People like you are a pretty small minority, the workers are realizing capitalism is wrong.
That's definitely part of how the two-party system ended up shifting to the right, but one should also consider the origins of the electoral shift. FDR and the new deal was so successful and popular that he won four consecutive terms, shifting America's policy agenda to the left. In response, industrialists began fraternizing with ministries throughout the country, sewing the seeds of the prosperity gospel. This mixing of capitalism and religion was reinforced with the cold war, red scare, and McCarthyism. Eisenhower and Reagan each broke new ground in the intermingling of politics and religion while serving the donor class, and this is what has led to the conception that God, the Flag, and Capitalism are what it means to be truly American. The effect crossed party lines, and this cultural and electoral shift is the most pervasive factor in the string of losses which led to third-way democrats. Source: One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America
This act feeds their greed and power. The christian hierarchy and capitalists are the same people. Learn your history: it's One Nation Under God dontcha know?
The capitalists use the pulpits to control the workers and subjugate them under the capitalists.
You should read this book.
One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America
Description as per Amazon:
Conventional wisdom holds that America has been a Christian nation since the Founding Fathers. But in One Nation Under God, historian Kevin M. Kruse argues that the idea of “Christian America” is nothing more than a myth—and a relatively recent one at that.
The assumption that America was, is, and always will be a Christian nation dates back no further than the 1930s, when a coalition of businessmen and religious leaders united in opposition to FDR’s New Deal. With the full support of Dwight Eisenhower in the 1950s, these activists—the forerunners of the Religious Right—propelled religion into the public sphere. Church membership skyrocketed; Congress added the phrase “under God” to the Pledge of Allegiance and made “In God We Trust” the country’s official motto. For the first time, America became a thoroughly religious nation.
Provocative and authoritative, One Nation Under God reveals how the comingling of money, religion, and politics created a false origin story that continues to define and divide American politics today.
> The people are easily tricked and can't be trusted. >
You need to blame the people, instead of blaming the power of the capitalists. That's your dishonest position.
>The people are stupid, mindless and easily manipulated through advertising. No rational thought on part of the watcher/listener is possible. Better step in and do something to "protect" them from it, hadn't you?
To deny it as wholeheartedly as you seem to proves one of two things: you believe you are not human and expect everyone else to not be also or you are a manipulator who has been exposed and are doing damage control.
>Nothing to do with capitalism. If anything, most religions are anti-capitalist.
Maybe you should read this book, if you want to be honest.
>No one's to blame for anything?
Capitalists' are to blame for subjugating you. And you are to blame for denying reality without doing research - with sources unconnected to your owners.
>No one has free will. Got it.
Your need to feel good about yourself, as horrible and dishonest as you are, seems to trump everything for you.
WTF do you think "free will" is, anyway? It's not magic.
> I don't like or support their pov either, but they vote and that has a real effect on my life.
I thought the POV in question were the socialists...
But, yes, we have been deliberately segregated. I still think those we need to reach right now are the masses, not the fringe.
The problem that put Trump in office, and the far and middle right congresspeople, is a combination of deals. Sure, he has his supporters, but it is the deals he made with the church that put him over the top.
Read this. It's very instructive of how we got here.
It started even earlier than that. This is essential reading to understand how they took over and smothered the government in religion: https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-God-Corporate/dp/1501238213
https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-God-Corporate/dp/1501238213
This book is amazing
This book explains it all: https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-God-Corporate/dp/1501238213
The best research on this topic has been done by Samuel Perry and Andrew Whitehead, who wrote "Taking America Back for God: Christian Nationalism in the United States" (interview linked since it's more accessible than the book). Christian Nationalism with Andrew Whitehead & Samuel Perry
From the video description:
>Christian Nationalism “is related to racism, but it’s not just racism, and it’s related to authoritarianism, but it’s not just authoritarianism,” Whitehead says on the show. “It’s related to xenophobia, but it’s not just reducible to that. And so it’s connected and it connects all of these other negative ideologies in this powerful way that we felt like we needed to unpack some more.”
My perspective on it as a lifelong secularist, atheist, and current TST Satanist is that Christianity is no exception to the rule that religion (as an institution) serves primarily as a propaganda outlet. This is more demonstrably true in 20th century American than in most other times and places throughout history. (source: "One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America" by Kevin M. Kruse)
As others have noted, religion has a hypocrisy problem. Monotheism and, in particular, Christianity's cult of vicarious redemption through human sacrifice, actually tend toward in-group out-group authoritarianism and place worship as more important than personal virtue (sectarian counterexamples can be found, hence "tend"). American Christianity since the 20th century has so intermingled with the tenets of capitalism that it uses Jesus's more socialist teachings as double-think when the true message is that God wants us all to worship at the alter of unfettered capitalism (the same god whose human incarnation famously overturned the tables of the money-changers in the temple and chased them out with a whip wants his name on our money?).
Religion in slave states had already been contorted to assure oppressors that god sanctioned their racial oppression (see the sentiment that non-whites were uncultured and needed salvation through subjugation). Racism in America came to more abstract and based in denial of economic participation than overt racial oppression at the same time that American Christianity adopted the concept oft-ridiculed as "supply-side Jesus." All of this is made possible because for most religion is used to justify their prior attitudes and actions rather than to scrutinize them. The glove fits the hand, not the other way around. In this case the preconceived notion was that socialism was scary. This meant we sanctified capitalism including its complicity in systemic racism.
TLDR: Christian nationalists think abolition alone is racial equality and that racially inclusive reform is socialist, ergo unamerican and unchristian. This is the result of a corporatist and christian collusion and ~~brainwashing~~ propaganda over the past century, fertilized by religion's history in America of justifying slavery. Followers of this Christian nationalist ideology believe that since they worship the right god with the right name that they are good people, ergo not racist, even if they support racism in practice. This is of course the trend, and exceptions abound but don't get the same spotlight (thanks, asymmetry of harm).
edit: messed up some names and link formatting.
Also, another great read: Andrew Siedel's "Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism is Un-American"
Because it has been used as the cult it is. If you are curious: One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America by Kevin M. Kruse
people should read this book https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-God-Corporate/dp/1501238213
Sure, they are the christian hierarchy - titans of business. This book explains how it came to be.
You're kidding, right?
If you don't understand the power dynamics of this country, wake up, research - and no, the propaganda of the capitalists, christians, is not research.
Oh you poor fellow.
You're fighting a war on drugs and bombing 8 countries because there's no regulation of the state against weapons manufacturers, or big pharma being the gatekeeper of medication, rather than science itself. In fact, we're regulated to put money in their pockets and regulated so we can't regulate them.
You live in a libertarian shithole. This is what the 'free market' has brought, and it needs to be even freer to begin selling you directly again.
Learn your history. The US was going socialist/capitalist hybrid after the bloody labor revolts (worse in all nations, was ours). Lincoln knew this. The progressive era knew this. The corporations knew this, and they found 'religion' in the 30s to reverse this trend, and make the USSR's version of it false equivlence to ours.
The late george carlin stated, that Germany lost WW2 and the Fascists won, for a reason -- they did. They came here instead.
You can even thank the CPUSA for the middle class and unions, not conservatives. That was against the conservatives.