What is reddit's opinion of ORGANIC Cotton Makeup Puff, Medium?

For anyone not in the know, 200 organic Japanese, non-bleached cotton pads, $6.15 from Amazon.

Yes, 200 pads for 6 bucks. I've been using this exact brand for the last two months and the cotton is great.

Throwing my two cents in - Japanese cotton is significantly better than cheap cotton balls.

You can get several years of J cotton for $6 on Amazon:

I always get my kanthal from lightningvapes.com and my cotton directly from japan on amazon.

Nobody in canada is even close to this kind of prices.

Organic, unbleached cotton is the only hard requirement. In a pinch you can often find organic cotton balls at the store.

My recommendation would be this from Amazon though, it's cheap and works really great. I'm maybe halfway through a bag, and it's been 3-4 years.

Well I buy them on Amazon. $5 per 200. That's 2.5 cents per sheet. They are charging 200 cents per sheet. That's 80* the purchase price. Or 8000% markup. And here they are: ORGANIC Cotton Makeup Puff, Medium [link]

I really have to disagree here. The flavor effects from the cvs cotton can be pretty severe.

I WOULD recommend the cheap, EXTREMELY high quality and easy to work with LABO cotton from Amazon.

Cotton Labo ORGANIC Cotton Puff Size M (200pc) [link]

I've been building an average of 20 builds a week on this and am not through an 8th of the bags and it's less than $8.00.

It's as good as the KGD stuff, and absolutely a STEAL for the price!

Get puff organic cotton pads off of Amazon. They're the same price as the fasttech ones, but won't take 1+ weeks to get to you. The bag I bought has lasted over 2 years, and I'm only halfway through it.

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Edit: If there is a Sally's near you, their Cellucotton rayon is really good too.

Labo Puffs from Amazon I bought this pack about a year ago and I've gone through half a pack. Great stuff-there's no "new cotton" taste and holds up well.

Earlier this year I picked up 2 200 count bags of Japanese organic cotton from Amazon for around $11. Have used maybe 2 inches out of the first bag. :-)

This is the stuff I got, though mine was in stock in the U.S. and this one comes from Japan.

Word! There’s definitely a bit of a learning curve with building RTA’s (at least there was for me), but they lead to a fantastic and more cost effective vaping experience in the long run. These cotton pads on amazon are awesome for rewicking and one package should last you a lifetime. My favorite coils for single coil builds are product # 9646622 on fasttech; they’re SS316 so you can use TC if that’s your jam, and they’re dead cheap, one package has 100 coils!

I’d love to hear how the Krylin treats you, I do love me a single coil RTA.

Puff Japanese organic cotton. Each pad is good for 3 or 4 wicks.

I'd recommend grabbing this. Should be a year or two's worth of cotton.

How often you rewick depends on your vaping habits, it can be anywhere between every couple of days and every couple of weeks. Coils can last a while if cleaned when rewicking. I normally end up wanting to try a new build before my coil actually has to be changed.

> amazon.ca

Price is almost double for the same item from the US site (xe.com says the price = $10 USD), but still a good deal for a quality product, works well, and has no break-in period or 'off' taste:

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Also, if it matters, the famous Daniel from DJLSB uses this cotton as well, but rarely mentions it in his videos.

I like Daniel's vids too. :)

There's a huge pack of cotton pads for fairly cheap on amazon that I got, so far it's had no flavor break in and the flavor is good. If you want to check it out heres the link. ORGANIC Cotton Makeup Puff, Medium [link]

Then you honestly dont need an ohm reader you can use your device as one just buy some clapton wires if you want to build your self if not order some prebuild claptons and for the cotton buy this [link]

3.5mm or 4mm twisted 26 or 24 depending on my mood... though more often it's 3.5mm twisted 26 7 wrap which comes to 0.42. It's quite nice around 85-95w. Cotton I'm using right now is [link] which I pull apart in the middle (like a sandwich...to make thinner) and then pull apart length wise just before it will rip apart then roll it up. One thin piece seems to fit pretty snug in 3.5 and 4mm coils nicely (although may have to pull some off to get it to fit if you roll it a bit looser).

Cotton is expensive?

Here you go. A shit ton of organic, unbleached Japanese cotton pads, straight from Japan, and only $5. This is what I use. Even if you rewick every 2-3 days this will still last you like 2 years.

Just buy some off Amazon. This right here is probably a huge portion of the market. The same stuff you find in vape shops. And there really is not anything special about those brands with their fancy pants cotton. Given some are better than others but it's all just marketing and repackaging and rebranding. But here this is $5 on Amazon for a huge bag. Organic Japanese cotton. You're welcome.

18650 Battery, you can choose between LG H2 2500mAh 25A 3.7V or Samsung INR18650-25R 2500mAh 25A 3.7V, these have been regarded as safe)
Premade coils or wire, eg. Kanthal A1 AWG 26 / other wire depending if you want to use TC mode. You may need a coiling tool or just learn to do them manually.
- Cotton for the RBA incase you want start rebuilding. I've got this, it will last ages.
eJuice

That should cover it.

Hit up Amazon.. Way cheap for way more than ecig vendors will offer... Example but not the end-all-be-all: [link]

They're fine. Give them a try and if they work for you, great. There's also these pads sold on Amazon. I personally think the pads are easier to work with. They don't tear apart as easily as unrolled cotton balls.

Hit up googles. There are a ton of build/wicking tutorials. I use 26 AWG kanthal ~9 wraps for~1.2ohms. I wick with labo cotton pads. You can buy enough cotton and kanthal to last you years for $20.

Wicking is easy. Plenty of youtube videos available to show you how. Also organic cotton is cheap and easy to find. The best stuff is the Japanese cotton that comes in little squares. A bag of that will last a decade.

I suggest this cotton, MUCH cheaper than cotton marketed towards vapers, its just as good as the expensive stuff as i've been told.

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Oh and somehow when I ordered it a few months back it got from Japan to Quebec in a week, probably just a fluke though, as some people are complaining about shipping times in the reviews.

Hey, thanks for helping out. I've been vaping for a week now and had researched a lot. I came to a conclusion of joining the dope dripping community. I'm planning on getting the IPV 4s and a Velocity RDA Clone with the majestic Trinity Copa drip tip and for budget i'm getting the coil master v2 and a kanthal A1 30ft from beyond vape and japanese cotton from amazon ([link]) and The most important a pack of 3 of Sony VTC5 2500Mah 20amp high drain. #SpotlightRainbowNuggets #Vapetrickstraining

If you feel the need to buy cotton you can also get this, but it's not nearly as good:

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If you are from montreal you have Vaptronic on Joliette (not far from the metro station) that has the tobeco clones :)

If you are not from around here, talk to them I am sure they figure out a way to send it to you.

Also, if you need wire, they sell Lightning vapes wire at very affordable prices :D as for cotton, they cotton bacon and also some regular cotton pads. If you can wait, I highly suggest you to get this from amazon.

Geez, $111?! I think I paid $21 for mine on ebay but it does seem to have gone up in price.

I like Muji's cut cotton for lotion masks, but right now I'm using these random ones I got from amazon: [link] I wouldn't worry too much about peeling off 5 layers. Depending on how much wetness I'm willing to put up with, I'll either just use the whole square or tear it in half.

Typically yes. Even before the scottish roll came around I didn't have a cotton taste last more than a few puffs. This is the cotton I use.

I'm definitely with everyone else on this. Hit up canadian tire or other local hardware shop, pickup a set of precision screwdrivers, a couple tweezers, some small pliers, flush wire cutters, scissors and then somewhere for some organic cotton. If you have an extra 8 bucks I'd suggest ordering this cotton from amazon also, just ordered my second bag, its been excellent for me. [link]

Are you talking stuff like this?: [link]

I'm looking for cheap cotton and kanthal wire (can you help with that? inside EU), because I don't want to pay a shit ton for the brand alone.

This is what I use. $5.92, free shipping. I use anywhere from half to 1/4 pad for a dual coil, so it lasts a long time.

What juice are you using? Since I've gone to clearer and less sweetened juices, my cotton lasts a lot longer. I actually notice its wicking ability decreases before the flavor goes bad.

For wire either use temco or lightning vapes. They offer both Kanthal and nichrome as well as nickel for TC. As for cotton I go to Amazon and use the squares. [link] gets you 200 squares for 6 bucks.

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To get the 5dollar bag deal you have to purchase 2 bags for 10 .... split with a vape buddy

This is what you want. Although maybe from a different place, because that shipping is ridiculous.

Here's the cotton I purchased. I was on mobile last night so couldn't link. I've had no issues with mine.

VV/VW mods like the Sig150 are nice because they work really well for both tanks and drippers and you can change your voltage for different builds and find what suits your taste exactly. For about $90 you can also pick up the Sig150TC if temp control is something you'd like to try. Mech mods are good but I wouldn't recommend starting your drip adventure with one until you're comfortable building.

You'll also need an external battery charger and a cheap ohm meter (Nitecore i4 is a great option). You cannot safely charge 2 batteries inside a mod.

The Tobeco Velocity or Wotofo Sapor are two awesome, cheap and easy building attys.

Watch a few build videos to get an idea or PM me and let me know what you decide on and I can give you some pointers. You'll also need wire (Kanthal A1 (for reg) or SS 317L (for TC) is easiest to start with) 24 or 26AWG is ideal. And some cotton (lifetime supply: [link])

Check out the "Scottish Roll" wicking video by cheesebanana, it's my favourite wick to date and I wish I learned it sooner.

Hope this all helps! If I forgot anything or you need more help let me know!

What is the best wicking cotton? From Amazon preferably.

I currently am going to get these, anyone want to let me know what your opinion and what you might get instead?

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For that particular RDA, I would go with 24-26 guage. There are a dime a dozen places to get wire. I recommend this bag of cotton because it is rediculously cheap and in my experience performs how J-Cotton should. [link]

This is asked a lot. Research is your friend. But to be nice.

These are my personal recommendations:

RDA Aeolus or Twisted Messes

order kanthal from Temco direct or amazon 24, 26 gauge are good to start with

This cotton works well too.

edit: you will also need an ohm meter to measure resistance and ensure you stay withing your device/battery safe range.

If you like you can just paypal me $5, and I'll ship you 3 pieces of Koh Gen Do.

Or you could just buy enough to last you a year for $6.39 on Amazon

If you're buying cotton on Amazon, these are the ones I get, [link]

They work great, inexpensive, only quirk is, many of the vendors ship from Japan, so I look through the seller options for an amazon fulfilled one, sometimes it's an add-on item. I'm willing to spend a little bit more for faster shipping, but if you have time, the direct from Japan sellers are the cheapest usually.

FYI, this is the cotton in that tutorial. You get 8 times as much as your link, for about 2/3 the price.

I bought one about six months ago and it still looks mostly untouched. Possibly a lifetime supply for less than $6.

Most of the(resistance) wire we use for coils is made by Temco. Amazon.com has fairly decent prices for Kanthal in 100' rolls. Also, all the cotton you could ever use for $6 shipped [link]

Your setup is great. for cotton I've been using this for 6 months and barely scratched the surface: [link]

any NI200 wire will work in your setup. Dont feel the need to pay extra for a vape related name. Most all nickel and Kanthal is made by Tempco.

I ordered these from Amazon this week, 200 pads of Labo organic Japanese cotton for £4.08. Shipped next day but comes from Japan so will see how long it takes. Looks like good cotton, from the reviews. Crazy cheap.

Also while the UD cotton is good, as with all vaping marketed stuff it's over priced for what it is (imo)

I'd recommend ordering some of this for a much better bang for your buck

This will last you a few years easy. [link]

I got mine back in April, and I've only gone through about a dozen pads so far. The flavor I get with it is wonderful, just make sure you fluff it out a bit before adding it to your coil.

Here is a great deal on japanese cotton. It will last you a long time and it's high quality.

To add to my kanthal, I also use this Japanese cotton:

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(200) pieces, $7.69 or call it $0.04 sheet, rounding up.

I usually get ~(10) wicks out of a sheet, or under half a cent per wick.

My coils are usually dual, 5" per run (works out to ~0.7 ohms) for 10" total or (120) dual coil setups per 100' run, or under $0.04/per.

So I can do a complete teardown and rebuild for less than a nickel.

I've heard that they are treated with hydrogen peroxide, but don't quote me on that. If it's something you are concerned with, by all means go ahead and boil. I, personally, bought organic when I first started rebuilding a while back and I never saw a need to boil :)

I use the Cotton Labo pads that split perfectly in half. But mostly you just want to thin your pad out a little so you can cut a wider strip. The exact thickness isn't super important, just make sure it's tight in the coil, but not too tight.

How about 200 sheets for $8, this is what I use and it works great. I rewick all the time because why not when it is this cheap. [link]

I came here to post this.. so much easier than breaking out the drill lol. And I never get dry hits any more doing it this way.

The reason I used pads in the tutorial he posted was so you can get a flatter wick which makes it easier to trim the ends. The idea is you want to thin out the cotton at the tips of the wick so it doesn't clog things up. You can do the same thing more or less with cotton balls, it just takes a little more tweaking. I use these and they've always worked great. Before when I used cotton balls they never tasted right and were a little harder to work with. Also with the pads it's easier to keep track of how much cotton you are using each time because you can see how wide the strip is.. so once you find the sweet spot it's easier to replicate it next time around.

In the mean time, if you close off your airflow a bit that creates more of a vacuum inside and sucks more juice into the wick. Also you can close it off completely (slide the ring between the two smallest holes, and you can close it), then take a couple of priming puffs (without firing) to pull some juice into the wick.

Do you ''prime'' the cotton after you wick? Just juicing it up all over making sure to get every spot makes a difference imo, moreso with tanks but meh. Also if your wick is too tight in the coil it'll cause it to burn easily.

Also, are you using the square cotton? Making sure the fibres are running straight through the coil will cause it to wick much better. If you are using balled up cotton, it doesn't make a huge difference because the fibres are jumbled up, but I found a huge difference in flavour and wicking when I used square organic japanese cotton. Its cheap as fuck too for a huge amount.

Making sure you have your airflow over the coil and open sufficiently will also stop dry hits, might just be that your coil is getting too hot.

How many hits do you get before it's dry? I use dual coils @ ~80-100 watts and it gets dry in legit 3-4 hits, and I need to have everything wide open to keep it cool enough.

Shouldn't really matter as long as it's organic japanese cotton. I went with this and have had no issues.

I'm not one to really skimp. If I decide i'm getting a DNA40, i'm gonna get one of the hot models ;P I haven't looked at the Hcigar yet but you bet I will. I usually aim for around the 3/4 mark on price vs performance in stuff like this.

hah yeah... I bought too much kanthal it seems. I was unaware of stuff like this when I bought it, but I only have like 5 meters of it. I got through 0.8m so far. Still though, I don't really care truth be told, $5 is all it cost. I saved money on not buying the $16.99/5 inferior replacements.

I just ordered some japanese cotton, so once that arrives i'll be set no matter the circumstance. There's some off brand cotton that seems perfect and it's only like $8 from amazon... but it comes directly from japan so it could take like a month to arrive... still though, I think there's more product, and cheaper than the $23 or so I have to pay in Canada for less. Better than cotton balls, and probably the same as the Koh Gen Doh tbh.

Been using these for a few months now. They work great and I haven't even made a dent in the pack yet.

It's not scented. But I like these unbleached ones way better.

It's far thicker than Shiseido so I don't have to roll it. I feel that it wicks faster too.

where do you guys get your cotton? i was going to get mine on amazon here

is this sketchy at all or good stuff?

Basically just involves sliding some cotton through the center of the coil so that it's snug, but not tight. Just make sure the cotton organic and bleach free (you can get organic cotton balls at Walgreens or Japanese organic cotton on Amazon for a good price). Lots of tutorials online for it if you're iffy on your wicking.

I use this Cotton Labo stuff, but I don't think there is much difference between the brands. Link: [link]

I use Japanese cotton because it is easier to cut and wick compared to cotton balls or the rope of rayon. Some people say it wicks better or tastes better but I haven't noticed much of a difference there.

Yep. It may taste a little funny the first few hits, but Hydrogen Peroxide wont hurt you. If you want some completely chemical free stuff you can get japanese cotton really cheap on amazon

Illumn.com has the chargers for cheaper.

I'd go with the Lemo, the Sigelei 150 Watt, the 2x 25r's.

You don't really need the ohm reader, since you already have one built in on the sigelei. But if you do want one, they have the eleaf ohm readers available for about 9$ on ebay.

I would get 26 Gauge, directly from Lightning Vapes, with coupon code LV15 for 15% off.

I would really recommend japanese cotton, you could get yourself some Koh Gen Doh, but here is some very cheap cotton: [

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Like I said, I already have a giant bag of cotton so I don't need any more quite yet. I just wanted to bring it up before someone who really needed more cotton got an unpleasant surprise. I'll definitely be checking out your store if I need something (I only have 1 dripper; I really should get a second). I'll be sure to email you before I place an order. Thanks again for the quick shipping, and for trying to fix this issue (which really isn't an issue, just lacking a better term).

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Chances are if you had Japanese cotton it was organic. But this is what I order. takes awhile to ship in but it's extremely cheap and good quality organic cotton.

Yeah man, I was one of those people who thought the whole japanese cotton thing was complete bullshit. I held out for the longest time and was the first to laugh at my friends for drinking the cool-aide. But then I tried some. Yeah, it's pretty awesome.

But with that said, I buy the $8 Cotton Labo stuff from Amazon.

I use Japanese cotton. I'm not the best at wicking, but I find it easier to work with than cotton balls or rayon, but not that great. Be careful with price, Japanese cotton especially has jumped in price and a lot of B&Ms will rip you off. If you're paying more than $10 for a crap ton of cotton (crap ton meaning more than 100 pads, close to a lifetime if you use it only for wicking), you're paying too much.

This is what I'm using currently. Amazon link: [link]

I'm using this cotton, which seems to be very well liked. Unfortunately I don't have any straight VG hanging around, but I can say that when I re-wick and use solely the 'nana cream there is definitely no hint of chalkiness. Thanks for the suggestions nevertheless, though!

Honestly, the bacon is just rolled out cotton balls. Go to Amazon and search Japanese cotton. Grab a bag of that. YouTube videos can show you how to do it. I would link you to everything but I'm on mobile dropping a Duke.

edit: cotton

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Or you can buy 200 pads for $8, who the fuck is going to pay over 3x the price of Japanese Organic cotton? All you're doing is buying Japanese Cotton for $8 and dividing it up and selling them for triple the worth using plastic ziplock bags.

Nice try though.

Any one who was late to this post just use what I use. You will have so much for so little.

When you put fresh wick in your coils, hit your button and vape off some of the juice and re-wet the wicks before you start hitting it. This will alleviate some of the break in time you get with cotton balls.

I use Japanese cotton and it is great. None of that wet t-shirt taste on a fresh wick. You can get years worth of it for $8 on Amazon.

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Probably 24g Kanthal A-1 for the Plumeveil, 26g for the Lemo.

this cotton

For making coils you can use a coil jig, but I find alen wrenches work fine. You can put one in the chuck of a drill and just use that to speed wrap coils if you want. I like to use a magnifying glass to building too, that usually helps get coils perfect.

Pretty much everything has already been said, I love this stuff though. I'm using the Labo organic Japanese cotton (as it was cheaper) and it's working great. I don't think I'll ever be going back to regular ole organic cotton. And the pads are extremely easy to work with.

Here's a link to where I bought mine, in case anyone is interested: [link]

I use this one from Amazon. It's pretty awesome:

Cotton Labo ORGANIC Cotton Puff Size M (200pc) [link]

Since the Kangertech SUBOX Mini Starter Kit was mentioned. I have this handy little (ok, it's quite lengthy and detailed to be of as much help possible) macro all prepared.

We all know the SUBOX Mini Kit is widely recommended for beginner and even some intermediate vapors.

It also gets great reviews. I am in no way, shape, or form affiliated with any of these companies.

Unfortunately, you have to purchase for multiple sites to get the best deals.

There is no TL;DR for this. I apologize, but I don't want you to be upset if you're a newcomer to the wonderful world of vaping.

Below is my "SUBOX Macro" on where to buy your SUBOX for the cheapest price I have yet to find, shipped out of the US, from an authentic seller. This post also contains where to buy batteries and a charger from. You NEED good batteries for vaping in general, so the batteries and charger can be used with pretty much any other mod you will get.

DO NOT BUY THIS UNTIL YOU ASK MORE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE SOME. WE ALL DON'T HAVE MONEY TO FUCK UP WITH AND ORDER THE WRONG THING OR BE UNEDUCATED ABOUT IT.

Kangertech SUBOX Mini Starter Kit.

www.vistavapors.com with code 'vv3' and it should come to $50.99 with free shipping. I believe they are also throwing in a free 10mL of 0nic juice. Mine came with 10mL of 0nic Altostratus from them.

You will enter the discount code in "Step 5: Order Confirmation."

You may also need to buy replacement coils for the SUBOX Mini since it only comes with a single 0.5 ohm coil and a 1.5 ohm coil.

The SUBOX Mini also comes with an RBA Deck, so you can build your own coils, which is MUCH CHEAPER in the long run. The flavor and vapor production seems to be much better as well. This RBA will come with 2 premade coils that will come out to be around 0.5-0.6 ohms. It will also come with enough cotton to re-wick 6ish times. This will be covered later on in this.

My personal advice from experience, pick up a 5 pack of the coils (you will most likely be sub-ohming, so pick up an extra 5 pack of the 0.5 ohm OCC coils). Why? Well, I accidentally burnt my cotton right before leaving the house one day. I did not have enough time to rebuild so I just tossed in an OCC coil.

With the OCC Coils from vistavapors added to your cart, your total should come to $63.73 with free shipping. Note: These are the Horizontal OCC coils from my experience, not the newer Vertical Coils that the SUBOX Mini Kit will come with. It's not that big of a deal IMO.

Now, this mod will NOT come with a battery, so you will need to buy one of those. However, the best (most recommended) batteries and charger cannot be found on this site. These are in the next break.

Bonus: on www.vistavapors.com , you will earn some bonus points for your purchase! Ever $1.00 spent (before coupon code it seems) is 100 points. Every 5,000 points you earn will get you $5.00 worth of credit on the site. These can be redeemed through the link on the lower lefthand corner saying "Rewards Program" in a black box.

(Technically speaking, you should just be able to buy the SUBOX first with the coupon code, then redeem your $5.00 credit along with the coupon code vv3 on a set of coils and save another $1.51. I'm not too sure if that will work out correctly so this is why I'm not directly advising that.)

Total for SUBOX Mini Kit: $50.99 with free shipping & I think 10mL of 0nic random juice.

Total for the SUBOX Mini Kit + 5 pack of OCC Coils: $63.73

A little tip: Start off at a low wattage and slowly work your way up. That way you don't burn your cotton. Once the cotton is burnt and you get a dreaded dry hit, that coil or cotton are garbage. You can't get the burnt flavor out of the cotton. This may ruin the juice in your tank as well.

Tip 2: See those little holes on the side of the OCC Coil or the RBA? DO NOT let your juice get below them. This will almost certainly cause a dry hit. Do your best to keep the juice level above those holes at all times.

Trusted/Recommended Batteries and Charger from legitimate sellers. Do not ignore this and say "I'll just look on Amazon/eBay." because you may end up with fake products. Inferior batteries can go BOOM! in your hand/mod. A bad charger can do the same thing in your house.

The battery is definitely needed since the SUBOX Mini Kit does not come with it's own battery or built in battery. You will want more than 1 battery since it's always good to have a spare fully charged one.

The charger is highly recommended. Even though the SUBOX Mini can charge the battery in the mod itself and has pass-through charging (you can vape as it charges), it's not recommended by most here. Plus, you'll probably buy more mods anyway and will need a charger.

2 Samsung 25r Flat Top Batteries + Nitecore Charger Two sites and options in case one is sold out.

www.lightningvapes.com with code 'ohmsweetohm'. ohmsweetohm is 17% off and provides free shipping. The Samsung 25r batteries are $7.50 each, and you want the Flat Top batteries. Choose what you want for the charger, as long as it's a Nitecore. My advice is to get one with 4 bays because you never know how many batteries/mods you'll eventually own, and it's only ~$5 difference in price. (This site will also be reference below in the RBA section for Kanthal).

The cart I built with 2 Samsung 25r Flat Top batteries and a Nitecore i4 charger (which I cannot take a screenshot of since they are out of stock for batteries currently) will come out to be $32.44.

www.illumn.com has no discount code that I know of. Batteries here are only $5 each for the Samsung 25r Flat Top batteries, and they have a few different Nitecore Chargers to pick from. You will want to pick the i2, i4, D2, or D4.

The difference between the i# and D# Nitecore chargers is that the D# chargers will provide battery percents and other information, while the i# chargers just have bars showing how far the battery is charged. They have the same safety features.

The cart I built on here with 2 Samsung 25r Flat Top batteries, and a Nitecore i4 (2014 Edition) charger comes out to be $35.70. The shipping on this site is damn expensive and varies depending on where you live.

Yes, there are a few other reputable batteries, such as the Sony VTC3 VTC4 and VTC5, and LG HE2, but the Samsung 25r are the more widely recommended.

Now, you will notice LightningVapes has Green Samsung 25r batteries and Illumn has Blue. The Green are from a newer production than the Blue. They should be the same exact battery. Some say the Green will take more charges or work better at a lower charge percentage. I can't find anything to back that up.

Kanthal and Cotton for the RBA Deck that is included with the SUBOX Mini Kit This will save you a lot of money in the long run.

Now, this section is a bit more "hands on" and a little more advanced and will require some knowledge of "Ohms law" and proper battery safety.

Here are two links that will help you out building coils. www.steam-engine.org/ohm.asp which will help you understand some of Ohms Law and [link] which will help you build coils. The SUBOX itself can fire from 7.0 watts up to 50.0 watts as we know. From what I've been reading, the Subtank Mini is recommended to be operated under 35 watts. Since you don't have an Ohm Reader yet, DO NOT build anything under 0.2 ohms for safety's sake. Your KBOX Mini (the mod in the kit) will not fire anything below 0.3ohm for safety, it will blink "Check Atomizer" if you do that.

The Samsung 25r should NOT be operated over 20 amps. DO NOT DO THAT! You don't want to have a battery vent or potentially explode. I want this to be made clear.

Since we are just starting off, it is recommended to go with 26 Gauge Kanthal. www.lightningvapes.com will have this pretty cheap, so with ohmsweetohm as the discount code, you can get something like 100 feet for under $5. That's going to last you a very long time since each coil only needs 6-8 inches.

Lightningvapes however only carries Cotton Bacon, which some feel is not the best.

Rip Trippers has a pretty good video here on how to build for this.

Cotton, damn that's a rough one, there's so many sites that carry it and prices fluctuate on this.

There are also many different brands recommended. We're just going to keep it simple and go to Amazon and get this one. Puff You may want to find one that ships from the US. This is just an example.

With our RBA deck, and rebuilding coils, let's just stick with the 5 wraps around the Blue Screwdriver for a ~0.5 ohm build since you're still learning here.

If you want to get more advanced, build some fancy twisted coils, clapton coils, etc. , go for really low ohms (in the future, not right now since the SUBOX Mini Kit won't work under 0.3 ohms), etc. There is this kit from Amazon if you have Prime If not, Here is a better one on ElementVape for $6 more.

It's recommended you get one of those anyway, since it will make life easier and more importantly, safer.

Now, you may be saying "that's a lot of money for rebuilding, I'll just stick to buying the premade OCC Coils". However, this is all an upfront initial investment that will definitely pay off and save you tons of money in the long run. $12-15 for 5 coils (and it's possible 1-2 may not work), or ~$50 for probably 100 coils when you make them yourself. It's fun too!

Enjoy!