{"product":{"product_id":"0990873854","title":"Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength (Second Edition)","price":"44.99","image_url":"https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41dB0up5OdL._SL500_.jpg","url":"https://www.amazon.com/dp/0990873854"},"comments":[{"body":"Since this has come up again...\r\n\r\nBrute strength likely only helps up to about V6-7 outside. Fingers are always going to be the weakest link with solid overall strength if you're trying to break into V8+\r\n\r\nSource: Gymnastics strength training background. Been able to do several one arms, iron cross, back lever, front lever, straddle planche, and so on. Also have written one of the more popular books on [bodyweight strength training](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0990873854/).\r\n\r\nIf you can barely do some pullups, then obviously some type of strength training will help. But you shouldn't neglect climbing and strengthening the fingers way above it. Maybe 2x a week strength training is solid for most.","subreddit_name":"climbharder","author":"eshlow"},{"body":"Yeah, I could do OACs and front levers and all that jazz before coming into climbing and had extensive knowledge of gymnastics and bodyweight strength training exercises (e.g. [wrote Overcoming Gravity](http://amazon.com/gp/product/0990873854/)), and I still somewhat fell into that trap. \r\n\r\nGot rapidly up to about V7ish and got stuck for a while. Past 2 years have been refining and figuring out what stuff works best for me and the people who come to me for advice to constantly progress! ","subreddit_name":"climbharder","author":"eshlow"},{"body":"As I said on another thread, he's all about marketing, man.\r\n\r\nHis form sucks hard. He uses his physique (which is really good, no doubt) as a tool to charge other people, but if you see his videos, you're going to realize his technique sucks.\r\n\r\nI was one of his subscribers, but when I started to really dig for knowledge in calisthenics, I realized how he doesn't know whatta hell he's talking about.\r\n\r\nIf you wanna spend money on something really good, buy the [Overcoming Gravity 2 book](https://www.amazon.com/Overcoming-Gravity-Systematic-Gymnastics-Bodyweight/dp/0990873854/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8\u0026amp;qid=1535802737\u0026amp;sr=8-1\u0026amp;keywords=overcoming+gravity).","subreddit_name":"bodyweightfitness","author":"VoandesHolador"},{"body":"Do you have the book?\r\n\r\nIt has Chapter 6, 10, and 12 I believe. The most important is Chapter 10 Methods of Progression which goes over various inter-exercise and intra-exercise progressions.\r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0990873854/\r\n\r\nGenerally speaking, any measurable progression tends to work the best. Adding reps, adding weight, turning the rings out more, using various other methods like counterweight pulleys. Sometimes indirect methods work like bands and other things. \r\n\r\nLight/heavy is pretty solid as a method of progression as long as you are increasing the difficulty on the light and heavy days gradually.\r\n\r\n\u0026gt; I’m starting to question if adding weight to certain variations of movements is cheating in a way and that I’m selling myself short long term by not trying to improve the difficulty of the movement through angles, ring position, etc.\r\n\r\nNah, anything works, but some methods do work better for others. So try some different ones out and see which you like better.","subreddit_name":"overcominggravity","author":"eshlow"},{"body":"The book is back up!\r\n\r\nAmazon has OG2 discounted at $38.99 instead of the regular $49.99. That's the lowest price I've seen them have it at in the 5+ years it's been out, so I'd grab it ASAP if you were ever wanting to grab a copy.\r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0990873854/","subreddit_name":"overcominggravity","author":"eshlow"},{"body":"The book is back up!\r\n\r\nAmazon has OG2 discounted at $38.99 instead of the regular $49.99. That's the lowest price I've seen them have it at in the 5+ years it's been out, so I'd grab it ASAP if you were ever wanting to grab a copy.\r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0990873854/","subreddit_name":"overcominggravity","author":"eshlow"},{"body":"The book is back up!\r\n\r\nAmazon has OG2 discounted at $38.99 instead of the regular $49.99. That's the lowest price I've seen them have it at in the 5+ years it's been out, so I'd grab it ASAP if you were ever wanting to grab a copy.\r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0990873854/","subreddit_name":"overcominggravity","author":"eshlow"},{"body":"The book is back up!\r\n\r\nAmazon has OG2 discounted at $38.99 instead of the regular $49.99. That's the lowest price I've seen them have it at in the 5+ years it's been out, so I'd grab it ASAP if you were ever wanting to grab a copy.\r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0990873854/","subreddit_name":"overcominggravity","author":"eshlow"},{"body":"The book is back up!\r\n\r\nAmazon has OG2 discounted at $38.99 instead of the regular $49.99. That's the lowest price I've seen them have it at in the 5+ years it's been out, so I'd grab it ASAP if you were ever wanting to grab a copy.\r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0990873854/","subreddit_name":"overcominggravity","author":"eshlow"},{"body":"Do you have the book? \r\n\r\nhttps://amazon.com/gp/product/0990873854\r\n\r\nIt goes through different variations of constructing workout routines from full body to different splits that can work. Seems like you want to go from full body to a split which can work 5 days a week.\r\n\r\nAs far as diet goes, propose something and we can critique. We don't give people plans here only critique. It's so you can learn how to do things for yourself and then refine your approach","subreddit_name":"overcominggravity","author":"eshlow"},{"body":"You should buy a book called Overcoming Gravity first to learn the whole concept of strength training. I took about two weeks off from working out to deeply understand body weight and weight training. The book will teach you how to create a proper program with a good periodization method, how many reps and sets you should do for optimal growth and how to pick a split. If you really want to grow you must have to want it and to really want it you must learn all of the above. I wish someone would’ve recommended me this book when I started working out. It’s like having a cheat code guide for overall training. Here is the link to the book. Good luck. https://www.amazon.com/Overcoming-Gravity-Systematic-Gymnastics-Bodyweight/dp/0990873854","subreddit_name":"bodyweightfitness","author":"lemondogo"},{"body":"Maintenant si je devais te conseiller un seul \"guide\", ce serait un livre: \r\n\r\n\r\nOvercoming Gravity \r\nhttps://www.amazon.fr/Overcoming-Gravity-Systematic-Gymnastics-Bodyweight/dp/0990873854\r\n\r\nC'est vraiment le livre qui m'a motivé à me reprendre en main et je regrette de ne pas avoir lu ce genre de chose en étant adolescent... Mais voilà, je ne sais pas si cela correspond à tes objectifs\r\n\r\n(Je peux t'envoyer une copie PDF si tu veux)","subreddit_name":"FitnessGuidesSharing","author":"Skonce-of-Rivia"},{"body":"I also do calisthenics and I can absolutely relate to unlocking the next level of a skill is so freaking satisfying. It's one of the things I really love about it. For me, the different skill variations you unlock in calisthenics are much more satisfying than adding more weight like in weight lifting.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nI've got a few goals. The one I'm closest to right now is a one arm pull up. I can currently do one arm pullup negatives and can do a weighted pullup with +75% bodyweight. I also want a stalder press and eventually I would like a full planche but that is still a long way off although I do have a straddle planche now.\r\n\r\nOver the past year I've taken my weighted pullups from 5 reps at +55lb to 7 reps at +70lb, and that’s with taking a month off for surgery recovery so I’m making slow but steady progress.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nGood luck on your front lever journey! It took me a long time to get mine. I recommend also working back lever as well. Also back lever tends to be a little easier so it's a nice skill to unlock along the way.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nFYI, I found [this]( https://www.amazon.com/Overcoming-Gravity-Systematic-Gymnastics-Bodyweight/dp/0990873854/ref=sr_1_5?crid=9870OTGZFNRT\u0026amp;dchild=1\u0026amp;keywords=steven+low+overcoming+gravity\u0026amp;qid=1615412850\u0026amp;sprefix=Steven+Low%2Caps%2C241\u0026amp;sr=8-5) book to be an *amazing* resource if your interested in bodyweight training.","subreddit_name":"AskMen","author":"internet_observer"},{"body":"I would say buy the book this sub is based on in order to find the answers you need: \r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Overcoming-Gravity-Systematic-Gymnastics-Bodyweight/dp/0990873854/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1\u0026amp;keywords=overcoming+gravity\u0026amp;qid=1613937287\u0026amp;sprefix=obercoming+\u0026amp;sr=8-1\r\n\r\nOne of the aims of the book is to teach people how to program their own routines.\r\n\r\nSorry I can’t give you a solution that you can use in this exact situation in order to progress.","subreddit_name":"overcominggravity","author":"LePetitBibounde"},{"body":"It is 100% accurate. Google any combination of \"rings\", \"50cm\", \"apart\", and you will see. It is not only recommended, it's the regulation width for professional gymnasts.\r\n\r\nI learned this fact first-hand from Stephen Low, the author of [Overcoming Gravity](https://www.amazon.com/Overcoming-Gravity-Systematic-Gymnastics-Bodyweight/dp/0990873854), who was nice enough to do a form check for me.","subreddit_name":"bodyweightfitness","author":"zer8ne"}]}