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If you want my thoughts on it, come back in a day or two and I’ll share how I like it. But straight off the bat I can tell you this, the construction was kinda annoying, and it’s a tiny bit unstable since the CSL pedals only have 2 mounting holes instead of 4. To counteract this, I added in the 2nd mount bar. It doesn’t screw into the pedals, but it still provides a lot of support. Now the pedals barely move when using them. The very slight instability shouldn’t be an issue for me. Keep in mind, this is only if your pedals have 2 mount holes instead of 4. If they have 4 it’ll likely be fine.
The mounting positions are also adjustable, so it’ll most likely fit almost every pedal set. I did need to use the black cylinders that came with the CSL pedals in order to mount the pedals as the mounting holes of the CSL pedals are not leveled with the bottom of the pedal plate. And the screws that came with this mount were sufficient, although there were 2 scenarios where I had to use a nut (included with the mount) to shorten the length of the screw.
All in all, this mount seems like it’s going to be worth the $80. I’ll confirm this in a few days.
I've never used T3PAs but it seems they're the gold standard for a non-loadcell pedal set, or at least a very popular choice. One thing to consider is that the TLCMs (and probably most loadcell sets) are best hard mounted onto a rig or separate pedal stand (although you can DIY something pretty easily if you get creative) as they can require a lot more force to activate the loadcell, depending on how stiff you want them to be.
I have my TLCMs mounted on one of these since I use an office chair based setup.
I ran the v3’s for awhile at my desk before I got my rig. I ended up using this to mount the pedals and lock the wheels of my chair. It still moved a lot in the front given the force needed on the brake so I ended up just literally screwing the whole mount directly to my floor.
https://www.amazon.com/distance-comfortable-PC-Mac-Linux-Unix/dp/B07N2F9YQN
Definitely get a cockpit/stand. Anything that helps you have a consistent setup. My experience changed so much + my braking & trail braking is more consistent now.
I got this to lock my chair and pedals to the same distance. Only complaint was some edges of this could be sharp
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I somewhat solved this with the PEIN pedal mount combined with removing the casters and buying the rubber feet others have mentioned.
The remaining issue I have is, I can still "pry" myself out of the pedal mount chair feet slots if I'm braking too hard and tilting my chair back since they're just sort of a cup preventing horizontal movement but not vertical. Need to figure out how to keep my chair planted to the ground or more rigidly coupled to the pedal mount...
So if I were to mount them, then something like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN
I assume just making a base/mount out of wood would work too. Same with leaving the pedals on the floor and making sure they're pressed up against the wall.
This stand would work. You could diy yourself something cheaper just from wood though.
I placed them an angle resting on a baseboard with the lightest spring. This was ok for a few weeks and not a ton of movement just not completely comfortable with an office chair. Last night i connected them to a PEIN mount from Amazon and it’s a total game changer as it holds an office chair in place as well. https://www.amazon.com/distance-comfortable-PC-Mac-Linux-Unix/dp/B07N2F9YQN/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=pein+pedal+upgrade&qid=1659898347&sr=8-1#
Buying this or DIYing something similar will allow you to use them just fine.
Go with the TLCM and then something like this, or diy something similar, it wouldn't be difficult to find/make a solution.
The standard Playseat Challenge pedal mount is good for what it is but isn't built for load cell braking forces. After some tinkering I decided to use this pedal mount instead. Bonus is it comes off easily for storage and can be used with swivel chairs etc if desired. It's good quality and works well, but does cost $70 though.
Pedal Mount PEIN (upgrade) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_3KVV21DDY0X3R4FBPACH
I use the vrs pedals mounted to a 3/4” wood board and this and it works. Not as stiff as a cockpit and I’ll get legit rig soon but for now this is more than sufficient and I’m using the stiffest spring available.
Pedal Mount PEIN (upgrade) is a device to keep your racing pedal and rudder pedal at a set distance from your chair as well as tilt the pedals to a more comfortable angle. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_PXG8ZQ8TMW9505ZPXAVW
There are plenty of options you can look at, both purchased and DIY.
Personally I have a sim rig so everything is physically mounted in place but prior to that I used a pedal mount from Pein Gear.
For DIY you can just mount the pedals to a wooden board and place rubber pads underneath to help keep it in place.
I bought a 3rd party pedal tray.
I should warn you that this pedal tray doesn’t mount to the challenge. There’s just a sort of rail that the leg of the challenge sits in to stop it from moving. It works well in that aspect, but if you have a brake pedal that requires a lot of force to press, then your challenge will tilt back. I have the CSL pedals, and this isn’t a major issue with that brake pedal. I do sometimes tilt back, but it lets me know I’m past full braking pressure and can let off a little. I’m gonna need to figure something out for when I get the load cell kit though.
I found it on Amazon. I’m sure there are others like it. You could drill a few holes in a sheet of plywood for the front legs if your chair to fit in if you don’t want to spend the money.
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Pedal Mount PEIN (upgrade) is a device to keep your racing pedal and rudder pedal at a set distance from your chair as well as tilt the pedals to a more comfortable angle. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_N3XBXX9AH7N9DS6FG272
Something like this pedal mount would help, or you can easily diy something similar out of wood. I would definitely recommend mounting them to something though, you'll have a way better, less limited experience if you do.
I used one of these for a while: Pedal Chair Mount
It was pretty good on carpet, not sure if it would slide around on harder surfaces maybe you can put some rubber stickers on the bottom or something.
I have a prototype version of the Pein Gear pedal mount that works superbly.
If you want a complete solution out if the box then it's your best option short of a full sim pit.
I had the same issue and I did find a contraption called a Pein Pedal Mount to attach it to my chair. It can still lift a little bit when you really mash the brakes. But it works for me.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I use one of these pedal mounts which keeps my chair from rolling back and makes sure my chair is always the same distance from my pedals. You could also DIY something similar pretty easily and spend less.
Just to throw another option in there, I've never used the t-pedals stand but I do have my TLCMs mounted on one of these and I love it. For only a bit more money they offer a lot of advantages over the t-stand such as the ability to keep your chair at the same distance from the pedals at all times and the stand itself can be mounted onto a board (or even a separate rig later on) for added stability.
There are good alternatives on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN?ref=myi\_title\_dp
There is also this method.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN?ref=myi\_title\_dp
Thanks!
I did look at locking wheels and those chair glide feet you linked but in one of my experiments I wedged some boxes between the back of my chair and the wall but while that stabilized the chair, the pedals then began slipping around. So I was looking for a solution that solved both problems.
I contemplated trying to build something like this, but given the price of wood these days I figured I'd save myself some money and effort and go with a premade solution, so I wound up ordering the Pein Pedal Mount. I came up with the idea to use the strap to hold me over until it arrives. :)
Pein pedal mount works great with office chair + load cell for me
You already have a great wheel base and now pedals. A foldable cockpit or wheel stand should be next imo. [this may help] depending on your budget(https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_T4CA4SMZYBVQF80A0XPY_0)
This is the best answer until you get a rig.
https://www.amazon.com/distance-comfortable-PC-Mac-Linux-Unix/dp/B07N2F9YQN
I use this and it works very well. Sharp edges so get you some water shoes!
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN/ref=cm\_sw\_r\_apan\_i\_3KVV21DDY0X3R4FBPACH
Interesting.... I can see how this would be beneficial
I have this and it works perfectly. Maybe it would work for you as well?
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07N2F9YQN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Used to have these and they work great! https://www.amazon.com/distance-comfortable-PC-Mac-Linux-Unix/dp/B07N2F9YQN?ref\_=nav\_youraccount\_switchacct
If you are a desk racers and want load cells this is a great product: Pedal Mount PEIN https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_4CKNDGVM8K3E94PV934B
I use this with an racing chair and office desk.. it is amazing! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_3CKCSQYW9ZFF5DCR8YRH?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This is what I use with an office chair and load cell
https://smile.amazon.com/distance-comfortable-PC-Mac-Linux-Unix/dp/B07N2F9YQN
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
^ Heavy recommendation for this thing. Looks good and allows you to use load cell pedals if you dont have a dedicated cockpit.
https://www.amazon.com/distance-comfortable-PC-Mac-Linux-Unix/dp/B07N2F9YQN
this can tide you over until you get a very proper 8020 rig
I can recommend this thing, as I'm in a similar situation as you: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
This PEIN mount. The design has been updated since I bought it so it looks different now. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apan_glt_i_7KCD6A73SSVVGY7S2MBM
I use this with an office chair (no rig) and it's great!
This will definitely work. I have this and it's amazing. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Otherwise you will need to do something out of wood and DIY it.
I got this and its been working great: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_JEW1QEZ91F59RZQDN4Y5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Pricier than old shoes though :)
not OP but if you were looking for options, I use this setup
There are good alternatives on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN?ref=myi\_title\_dp
Just ordered this. We'll see how it goes
I have this, its great
You could look at the Playseat Challenge, which is a folding racing seat with a forward tray and pedal mounting area, and then put your sticks/throttles on boxes on the side.
Otherwise you could use a regular office chair with the monstertech chair mounts and the j-pein pedal mounts
The brake force setting controls how much brake force is applied relative to the amount of pressure being applied to the load cell. The higher you set the brake force the more pressure it takes to achieve the same level of braking.
Typically you'll want to set this according to what springs your using (and personal preference or course), with using a lower brake force for the softer springs and higher for the stiffer springs.
Using lower settings on the softer springs allows the brakes to start being applied increasingly throughout the pedal travel. If set too high then you'll barely get any braking before you've completely compressed the springs, at which point you're just directly stepping on the load cell and not really even using the springs, which if you're preferring a softer spring is probably opposite of the feel you'd be after.
Using a higher setting on the stiffer springs also allows allows the brake to be applied increasingly throughout the pedal travel. If set too low then you'll see the brakes jump to 100% far too quickly which will have you locking up and takes away from the ability to modulate the brake application, which is the whole point of load cell brakes.
The springs run from softest to stiffest in the order of white, grey, black, red. So white and grey is the softest combo and double red is the stiffest.
A softer spring set combined with a lower brake force setting will give you a feel closer to that of a road car, with lots of pedal travel and not needing to press all that hard to get to max brake application.
Stiffer springs with a higher brake force gives you a feel closer to a true race car, with less travel felt and having to press much harder to reach max application. The advantage here though is this makes it easier to modulate you brake application in finer increments and give you far greater control.
I'd recommend playing around with different spring combinations to see what feels best for you and what your chair can handle before rolling back. When using the calibration software you want to set the brake force so that you don't get to 100% brakes until you're pushing as hard as you can (harder than you'd be pushing in a normal "hard braking" scenario) and this will help you be able to brake hard without locking up. Just remember to re-calibrate any time you change springs.
For my personal preferences, I prefer a very stiff pedal with little travel as this best enables me to have more precise control over my braking. I actually modded my brake pedal to make it even stiffer. I also use this pedal mount with my gaming chair to help stop it rolling back, and to ensure my pedals are always the same distance from my chair as consistency is very important to being able to develop muscle memory, which means after awhile of using your preferred setup things will start feeling natural and you'll not have to think about how much brakes to apply, you'll just do it.
I hope this helps. The T-LCM is a fantastic set of pedals and I hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine!
Thanks!! It works pretty well.
Looks like the standard is currently unavailable:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_api_i_tQSxFb6X15244
But this one is available, it adds a riser to raise the pedals.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PRRPV8V/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_api_i_mSSxFbTJCN4WQ
I got one of these. It works pretty well.
https://www.amazon.sg/Mount-PEIN-device-distance-comfortable/dp/B07N2F9YQN
You can build something pretty easily and cheaply, but if time or materials are a concern then you can get one of these. I've been using one with my TLCMs and it works great.
There is also this version to raise them even higher.
The main options I'm aware of would be the PEIN Pedal Mount and the Thrustmaster T-Pedals Stand, both of which I would assume you already saw on Amazon.
I use the PEIN mount myself and an generally happy with it. It does seem to offer some advantages over the Thrustmaster stand as it had some additional functionality, especially if you use an office/gaming chair. Though this obviously comes at a higher price.
I'm generally of the opinion though that you could build something quite simply yourself that would likely perform better and be much cheaper. I only bought my stand so as to avoid having to go to the hardware store/lumber yard in the middle of the pandemic.
I went with: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN
It's a self-promotion post, but it also would be a helpful information for you.
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Do you have to use your regular desk and office chair when you play a video game?
If yes, PEIN's Pedal Mount is recommended for you, To fix all of your gaming pedals issues.
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PEIN's Pedal Mount is a device that is meant to keep your pedals at a set distance from your chair as well as tilt the pedals to a more comfortable angle that suits you.
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We are sure PEIN's Pedal Mount will solve problems you've struggled with ever since you bought your pedals. With Pedal Mount the pedals perform the way they were meant to, they don't move and they don't tip over. And then you can push the pedals as hard as you like and they will stay put.
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Pedal Mount works exactly as described and it is very sturdy when assembled. Once the chair is in the U-profile the pedals will not move, neither forwards, backwards nor sideways. The angle adjustment works just as it's supposed to and while perhaps making your pedal use slightly less realistic it can help a lot with comfort after long hours of play, depending on pedal type and game of course. The mount works just as well without the angle adjustment.
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Assembling the mount is easy and adjusting it for your taste is straight forward. There aren't any quick latches or similar, just standard bolts that you fasten with the included allen key.
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Pedal Mount will fit almost all pedals on the market. The cross-rails for mounting pedal are very configurable and can be put in almost any position.
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Pedal Mount doesn't take up a lot of space. The extension frames connecting to the chair can be folded up which reduces the footprint considerably when stowed. When fully disassembled it's extremely compact.
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The Pedal Mount also can be configured to equip various additional options.
- Height upping add-on (now purchasable on this on-line mall)
- Reverse kit add-on (design completed, now on progress of producing prototypes)
- Center-stick mount for flight sim game (completed 60% design of the center-stick mount and now on progress of producing extension pole prototypes for center-stick)
- Additional brackets or add-on with user's requests
You also can do DIY easily with extra screw taps and bolt holes in various parts of products.
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You can find more information and pictures in the purchase page.
Purchase in US
Basic edition https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2F9YQN?ref=myi_title_dp
Height up Edition https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PRRPV8V?ref=myi_title_dp
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