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Certainly, I just went with the cheapest one on Amazon. All are about the same price came in a Creality branded box and everything very official, used the stock magnetic mat already on my printer. PEI Bed
I’ve never had an issue with PETG-what problems were you having? I see there was a bit of adhesion issue.
I 1000000% recommend you get yourself a stainless steel flexible build surface-either PEI or Buildtak. PEI has been nothing but perfect in my experience. It’s durable, forgiving, has exceptional adhesion at lower temps, and once you’ve got it set it lasts a long time with really no issues to speak of.
PEI Magnetic Flexible Heated Bed 235x235mm for Ender 3/ Ender 3 V2/Ender 3X / Ender 3 Pro/Ender 3 Prox/Ender 5 / Ender 5 Pro [link]
Here is the one I got for my ENDER 3V2. This is the best $23 you can spend on an upgrade for these printers.
Buildtak makes a nicer magnetic base-but I feel like PEI is more user friendly. Just rough it up with some sand paper and then wipe the dust off with some rubbing alcohol. It comes a bit smooth from the manufacturer.
The E3 Pro has a magnetic sticker over the aluminum bed from the factory. These kits come with them though. I actually had to replace the magnet on one of them.
I'll take a loot at those probes and compare them to the EZABL. So cheap might as well take a shot!
Hey I just upgraded from my glass bed to a Spring PEI sheet (link below). No complaints and worth the money. I got tired of fighting to get prints unstuck from the glass. The spring sheet sticks well and when it's done I just let the parts cool and the pop right off.
Can't speak for the textured sheet you linked but it's probably also as good.
PEI Magnetic Flexible Heated Bed... [link]
I've been there are it's horribly frustrating. Make sure you've heated the bed before leveling it to. Things can expand and move when heated, so you want to level at around 60c.
Sorry If you already said you tried this, but I swear by aquanet on the bed when using glass beds.
I also generally don't recommend upgrades to fix problems. Its always better to resolve the issue first, then upgrade only for improvement. But I've been really happy with the adhesion with this bed. [link]
Check my profile, I’ve had this issue for over a month. It turned out to be a bed adhesion issue. I bought a PEI Bed and it immediately fixed my bed adhesion issue.
I spent an entire month leveling my bed. Even went lengths to install custom firmware with BLTouch and other upgrades.
PEI Magnetic Flexible Heated Bed 235x235mm with Frosted Surface for Ender 3/ Ender 3S / Ender 3 Pro/Ender 3v2 /Ender 3 Prox/Ender 5 / Ender 5 Pro/CR 20/CR 20 Pro [link]
>From what I read on multiple sites, they said it was a good material.
It can be decent but most people use painters tape , glue stick , hair spray , etc. I did it for a bit too but got over it real fast. Glass can be a life saver if you have a really warped bed and dont plan on getting a blTouch.
Since you have an auto bed leveler I cant say enough good things about spring steel sheets with PEI on them. great adhesion and a little flex at the end and the print just falls off. no more scraping the build surface.
I use the wham bam plates on both my enders but they are a but pricey. creality makes their own for around 30.00
as always do your own research and form your own opinion on glass vs spring steel. if there was a clear best then the other wouldnt exist so you need to find whats best for you. it may be that some glue on the glass solves all your issues.
I mean its 30$ If you just got a glass bed maybe you can make it work. But yeah this is what I replaced my glass bed with.
I cannot strongly recommend getting a PEI bed enough. I was pulling my hair out trying to get things to print with the glass bed. I started to use overtures build surfaces that come with the filament and those work great but are pretty much a 1-2 time use thing. The PEI beds are amazing! Magnetic so you can lift the surface up and snap your print off it's super cool and I no longer have any adhesion problems at all! I'll attach a link to the one I got on amazon (this is NOT an affiliate link or sponsored in anyway) just love the product and it has worked more than wonders for hundreds of prints. Over time though it will scratch and need to be replaced eventually but it's worth it's weight in gold
From the picture you posted it seems that your nozzle is a bit too far away from the bed. Also small parts sometimes do have a problem staying adhered; if not at the beginning then eventually during the print they might loose adhesion. Use a brim to secure them better to the print bed.
DO NOT clean this particular surface with alcohol; it will destroy your print bed and the special surface coating. You can clean it with water but that normally shouldnt be necessary; it should be adhesive when heated up. Also it is my experience with this particular surface, that they loose adhesion over time.
If I was you, I'd get a removable PEI sheet instead. Much easier to maintain (just occasionally clean with rubbing alcohol) AND prints are much easier to remove; also you dont have to wait until it cools down to do so.
Ordered one of these the other day because I heard the Ender bed is not great and I think I have even noticed some unevenness. Do you suggest glass over this?
My cable is 2m. 1.5 would be fine but no shorter. Here’s the bed.
PEI Magnetic Flexible Heated Bed 235x235mm for Ender 3/ Ender 3X / Ender 3 Pro/Ender 3 Prox/Ender 5 / Ender 5 Pro [link]
Also using bltouch has been a life changer. Don’t know why I resisted setting that up
That's the one I got, it comes with a magnet the size of the bed with adhesive on one side. You stick that on the bed, magnet facing up and you got yourself a good time! The PEI is definitely stuck to that steel, but the steel is very bendy and it makes prints pop off like nobody's business. After the printing is done, that is.
I think I bought this one:
The benefit is that I do not have to scrape at all to get parts off. It is flexible, but stronger than the original mat. Let it cool off if parts do not pop off easy.
It should last years. You can even refinish it with steel wool
I just have the creality one, seemed price competitive at ~$30 on amazon. It came with a sticky magnetic deal but I left that off to save weight and just use the binder clips.
I got this one a few days ago for that very reason. Same as OP but without the nozzles, which are probably crap anyway. Never used PEI before this and I'm loving it... Just remember to remove the protective coating.
Sure thing! This is the one I have
Get a sping steel plate with PEI on it. This is by far, the number one best investment I have ever made. Clean with degreaser dish soap and water.
This one: PEI Magnetic Flexible Heated Bed... [link]
Stick the magnet sheet to the metal tray (where your glass sits now). And bobs your uncle
A 3D printer bed. That sounds painful, if it's even possible. [link]
This one is cheaper and just works. I'm on my second one and it is great. [link]
>flexible PEI sheet
something like [link]?
It's on sale right now too!
Wow that's expensive for a aliexpress item. I used this one from Amazon and it's cheaper. [link]
It's a stock Ender 3 (V1, non-pro) with this attached to the aluminum bed:
Magnetic PEI surface.
this one from Amazon
Honestly the creality one is pretty decent to start out with I also recommend Wham Bam and TH3Ds pei sheets.
It came mostly put together, but there is some assembly required. I put it together with the help of a YouTube video but I fix computers for a living so that might make it easier for me than others. I don't have to do anything in between prints except level the bed about every 4 or 5 prints. I did buy a PEI sheet for the bed instead of the magnetic mat it comes with. I was going to get a glass bed but it looked like so much maintenance with glue sticks and hairspray and junk and that would definitely deter me from printing. I basically wanted a set it and forget it printer and this one is exactly that for me. Leveling the bed is extremely simple, especially with something like the chepclub bed level gcode you can download. I'm on mobile so my links will be ugly, but I'll post them before anyway so you can see what I'm talking about.
Bed level code: [link].
PEI sheet: [link]
The linear rails are a simple printed mod (plus, obviously the MGN12H rails - easy to source from Aliexpress or the like): [link] (for the old version mount) - Completely new plate: [link]
This mod made a hell of a change for me as I was constantly struggling with the v-slot wheels arranged in the parallelogram. Couldn't get my bed to stay put, no matter what I tried (and I am experienced with 3d printers).
The PEI sheets are available from Eyrone on Amazon and Energetic on both, Amazon and Aliexpress. It is basically a magnetic foil, pretty similar to the CMagnet bed for the Ender 3, a spring steel plate with a PEI sheet attached or powder coated (similar to the Prusa MK3S plate). They have great adhesion when heated and prints are extremely easy to remove when cooled down. They also have way less weight than a glass plate and thus less momentum. Link - this link is just an example as I couldn't find the very model I use on Amazon.com (I buy from Amazon.de as I am in Austria).
Currently on sale too. Which is most of the reason i decided to try it
I've seen people recommending this one for a flat PEI surface. The textured one I purchased was this one though I didnt bother setting up the magnets on my ender 3 (non pro).
The PEI steel plate is worth every penny imho
I've been using TH3D's PEI on spring steel with great success, although there are certainly cheaper options out there like this one from Comgrow on Amazon. If you have a E3 Pro, you won't need the magnetic base, just the spring steel with PEI.
I just picked up one of these a couple of weeks ago and I'm loving it. The prints stick to the bed really well during printing and pop right off by just pulling the sheet off the printer slightly and other times the prints just pop off with a little effort. Make sure to keep it clean (I use alcohol prep wipes) and don't use the scraper on it at all, it will tear up the surface very quickly.
I just picked up the PEI sheet and it’s been amazing so far. The bottom is extremely smooth like glass prints and all I have to do is wipe with 91% isopropyl alcohol between prints. When cooled the prints generally come off but if not just give the slightest bend and they will pop off the sheet.