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Not 4. Good enough for 1. I would say unless you're letting them free roam free 24/7 dont get that. I would reccomend this cage off amazon. I had this for my 3 girls. Plus it doesn't need to be on wheels. If you want you can only use half of the cage and if you want to expand add the second part on.
Here is a link to one on Amazon. I have this unit for my females but since the wire spacing is technically to far apart we lined the exterior of the cage with 1\4inch chicken wire using zip ties. This unit is as big as the critter Nation cages just much less expensive. It can comfortably house up to 9 rats and you can even block off the hole in the middle to use as 2 separate cages instead of one double decker. Anyways I hope this helps, I know you were only looking for a home for two but once you get started they get kind of addicting so at least you would have room for more if needed, LOL
link to rat cage on Amazon
Feisty Ferret? The bar spacing is probably your issue. Try hardware cloth instead of chicken wire. If it's well fastened on all sides, it should do the trick! If not, you may want to consider a cage with a tighter bar spacing. The single unit Critter Nation is actually pretty close in size to the Feisty Ferret as well as being comparable in price. A cage that doesn't keep your rats in can present a danger to not only your daughter's clothes but also to your rats.
Maybe I'm mistaken on the Amazon cage being discussed. I bought the Amazon choice cage that they call a fiesty ferret home for $118. Though it's now $129. It has 3/4 in bar spacing and the doors only open. On one side.
No issues at all. It’s rated 4 stars on Amazon, it’s a very large cage so you’ll definitely need room for it! But it’s easy to clean and they provide a video to follow for assembly as well as instructions. It’s been great so far and my boys seem to love it!
Ferret Cage on Amazon
Amazon has a really nice affordable cage. It’s about $120 dollars and free shipping on Amazon. Really 2 rats will still have a pretty large minimum cage requirement. They need plenty of room to climb. I would say for this cage, you could house 2-4 rats. Rat Cage
i’m still a bit torn between the critter nation and the ferret cage just due to price really but i’m going to have more money at hand after this weekend so i’ll probably get the cage now and work with the rest later. i appreciate all the help thank you so much!
also for reference here’s the cage i was looking at previously [link]
Hmm, I've been actually looking for a new cage for my little guy too. He was given to me by my brother and the cage he has is ok for now but I'd like to upgrade to something like the Ferret Nation too. I was just wondering if this other "knock off" would be ok. The mot common con that I have seen is that both doors do not open, but they still open a lot wider than what I am working with right now. Oh and of course I'd be either removing all the plastic for wood ledges or covering them with fleece. [link]
When I was considering buying the Ferret Nation this kept popping up in my search results.
I had a Prevue cage that I was trying to replace because I hated it so much (different model). I think that the set up for this one is similar to the one I had (wire grate on top of the black pan), which made clean up difficult and I had to make a floor to go over the wire.
After weeks of searching, I sucked it up and paid the $229 for the Ferret Nation. I don't regret it.
If it's something you can hold off on, I would save up the money and in the mean time, keep looking for sales or searching for a used one.
Ferret.com had them on sale when I was looking, but you had to buy them separately (the main unit and the add-on). There was a back order until April for one of them and with shipping and taxes, it was only $10 less than what I ended up paying for it through Amazon.
I bought the Feisty Ferret cage a while back and it's not half bad, you can get it for around 130$.
Yeah taking my cage outside would be a huge ordeal. This is the cage I have and it's on the second floor. Not intending to take this thing down the stairs until I move out.
Their blankets are just cut up pieces of fleece from the craft store so those are really easiest to stick in the washing machine, especially because there are a lot of them. I think hand washing would make a 2 minute chore into an hour chore. I usually pull them out during cleaning, stick them in a sealed bucket in the closet and when the bucket is full I do a load of laundry.
I have this one.
I have three ferrets and it's great. They have plenty of room to run around in and play in. My only issue is the cleaning. It cleans easily, but sometimes my ferrets don't use the liter box and we have to clean it off of the sides or the floor.
To add some more info:
Here's the link to the cage on Amazon: [link]
My immediate concern right now is the bottom... I've never used a cage with a mesh over the tray. I'm worried about bumblefoot and just a general dislike due to not being able to access the soft fluffy stuff. Should I lay something down over the mesh? If I do, is there a point to having any bedding underneath?
Relatedly, I'm not finding any custom-made ramp/shelf covers. What would be a good way to make some myself? Strips of old pants held with rubber bands?
I have both a chinchilla and two rabbits. Beyond the cleaning of his cage which is one of these: [link]
and his dustbaths, I don't think they are a very difficult pet. They are really smart and fun. I allow him free roam time, they do live a long time which could be a great thing if you know this before adoption. He requires chinchilla pellets and timothy hay.
I bought this cage when I got my first chinchilla, replaced the ledges with wooden ones and wrapped the ramps in fleece (as well as the floors). Still enough room even with my second chinchilla. Though, that cage is still quite suitable.
Edit: I never asked, but do you plan on only having a single chinchilla? My first was quite depressed after a while of living alone and he perked up a bunch once we got him a roomie.
I love this cage. It's made for ferrets but is pretty common with rat owners. The width of the bar spacing is a little wide, so you will need to place some sort of solid material on the bottom surfaces so your rats' little feet don't get hurt. I chose linoleum squares which you can get for cheap from any home improvement store and then cut them down where necessary, and then I covered those with fleece. The bar spacing is also just as wide on the exterior compared to a standard rat cage, so this cage shouldn't be used for baby or smaller rats, which could slip through.
All-in-all, it's great. It has two main levels with two additional half-levels, so there is plenty of climbing space. If necessary, there is an optional piece with a latch that can compartmentalize/separate the bottom level from the top level if you have any rats you need to separate from the others. It is also very easy to clean and maintain, especially considering there are two large doors (with very secure locks) for both the top and bottom level. This cage could hold up to 6-8 rats comfortably, and I currently have my 3 sweeties in there who all love it. It was also not very difficult to put together either, and has a storage space rack installed at the bottom below the cage. The one I ordered from Amazon came with a free hammock included as well. Lastly, if you have several rats, I would recommend including a feeding dish and water bottle on each level so they don't have to compete with each other.
this is the link to the cage. [link]
hopefully the link works for you. Whos wheels have always been plastic crap? I use happychilla wheels. the new upgraded versions. They are amazing. and only $54 for the right size and they are metal. Also on the cage if you read the comments some people said the packaging is terrible but mine came in great. Went together easy and they were saying that it isnt the right bar size for chinchillas, but I think its perfect unless you plan on having kits. Oh and its on sale for $130 now
No, actually D:
this one is very similar. Ours has more platforms and smaller doors, but otherwise it seems pretty close. I was finding the rat cages that were for sale seemed really small and we wanted to get them something more substantial, so we looked around for ferret cages instead.
This, but they're only using the top. I store their litter and food in the bottom.
I feel like amazon may be your best bet. Pet stores don’t really sell good cages for good prices. When I first got my rats i got them this cage from PetSmart. Its ~$100, and the size is the BARE MINIMUM size for 2 rats. This cage on amazon is very similar to the critter nation cage. its slightly smaller but still a good cage. its about ~$150. When I first got rats, I wish i went with either a critter nation or the amazon cage. Its much better to spend a lot on a really good cage than to get a worse one for cheap. I hope this helps!
ok! here are the two cages I've been eyeing on amazon
Is this a good one?
Absolutely! I'm happy to share. Prevue Hendryx Black Feisty Ferret Cage [link]
i just got this one from amazon that you can separate the bottom from the top level.
Prevue Hendryx 485 Pet Products... [link]
It’s on Amazon, it just has a lot of plastic so I hate to replace it with those wooden ledges!
I hope this helps!:)
Prevue Hendryx 485 Pet Products Feisty Ferret Home with Stand, Black Hammertone [link]
Get a normal cage. Like
MidWest Deluxe Critter Nation Double Unit Small Animal Cage (Model 162) Includes 2 leak-Proof Pans, 2 Shelves, 3 Ramps w/ Ramp Covers & 4 locking Wheel Casters, Measures 36"L x 24"W x 63"H Inches, Ideal for Dagus, Rats, Ferrets, Sugar Gliders [link]
Sorry I don’t know how that happened but it looks like I deleted half the link lol
I’d suggest this when you are ready to do an entire cage upgrade. It’s a bit smaller than a Critter or Ferret Nation (just by a few inches) but it’s cheaper and its still very well made! Just leave out the entire middle section so there is more vehicle space.
And this (it’s on Etsy, Adorkable Pets has some fantastic items!) is a great bundle for the cage! You can pick your own fleece colors and patterns too.
The Critter and Ferret Nation cages are the same size and can be used interchangeably so what fits in one should fit in the other. The 20.9 gallon concrete mixing tub is approximately 24" x 36" and while the lip may need to be trimmed slightly, it should work in a Ferret Nation cage.
Is it possible that you have a Feisty Ferret cage and not a Ferret Nation?
I just bought this cage and its beautiful!
For the price of that plus modifying it to make it rat-appropriate, there are plenty of good cages where you'd have to do less work! A cage like this one is not bad--you'd just want to get some tile or similar flooring for the bottom so the wires don't hurt their feet. The Rat Manor is a smaller cage but good for up to 3 females, and would require no additional work aside from the usual like bedding, hammocks, etc.
This cage is cheaper for a reason. I urge anyone who has this cage to please, please, please install pans (if they don't make them, just improvise) onto the levels so the ferrets are not walking on wires. Walking on these wires their whole lives will mess up their feet and spines. I am currently witnessing the effects of wire cages on an elderly rat who is having a bad time with his spine and is dragging his hind legs from being raised on wire grates. His feet constantly get stuck in the wires and this type of design is just not good for the health of any animal.
I have and highly recommend the MidWest Ferret Nation cage. The single unit will be enough for two ferrets and is worth the money. The double unit will provide that much more room and will ultimately make happier ferrets. Ferrets love to run around, climb, generally be silly and extra room to play is never a bad thing if you can afford it.
The pans also make cleaning that much easier. Poop and food do not get flung all over the place as I imagine it would in a wire cage. Cleaning up after ferrets is hard enough. Why make it more difficult?
Single $175, Double $210
(Includes pans and ramp covers)
Believe me, this really is the better option. Especially when you're already spending near that amount on a cage. Your ferrets will thank you.
Hello, you have a few suggestions here :
Also a similar model to the ferret nation : [link]
Have a look on ebay.fr, it may cost less to buy it from france and ship it to the UK.
Here you go! Like I said, the spacing is too large for babies, just fyi!
Was eye balling these two cages
Do you have any experience making liners for the Feisty Ferret Cage? I would be very interested in buying some! :)
Wait, have you got the same cage? One of our ferrets broke the cage bar and they can escape :(
I don't have any proper photos at the moment.
edit: here is it [link]
I was thinking about getting it...you and your ferts like it?
The number one rule is ALWAYS buy in atleast pairs, Same sex unless you want a bunch of babies, As keeping a lone rat is extremely cruel and they can starve themselves if they don't have a rat friend, Keeping one rat, as some people think will make them bond with you more which is complete bullshit, Rats bond better with people if they have friends and are much more adventurous, even if you have the rat out ALL day, You still won't be able to groom it the way another rat would, play with it the way another rat would, Your not another rat, So ALWAYS buy pairs or trios
Secondly, Don't keep them in a tank, Tanks provide terrible air circulation and rats have very sensitive respiratory systems, The ammonia smell from their urine will build up quickly and can cause respiratory infections, Which would need to be treated by a vet. They should have large wire cages with multiple levels similar to these:
Also don't feed them a commercial mix like Fiesta or ANYTHING Kaytee, They are loaded with sunflower seeds which are very high in fat, And usually contain dried corn which contains cancer-causing fungus, Fresh cooked sweet corn is fine for rats, Mine LOVE corn on the cob, Its just the dried that you need to stay away from, I suggest feeding a good quality lab block like Harlan Teklad (2014 for boys, 2016 for girls) or Oxbow Regal Rat, As making your own home-made mix can be very difficult and pricey, I bought 10 lbs of Harlan teklad for about 30$ and it lasted me a good 6 months with 2 rats, I now have 5 so it was unconventional for me, So I'm using the Shunamite rat mix diet. As for monthly expense I'd say about 50$ a month? Depending on how much you want to spoil them (With treats, toys, and bedding) DON'T Use pine or cedar bedding, the phenols in them which make them smell good cause alot of health-issues for rats, Aspen bedding is fine and is what I use in their litter boxes, A lot of people like carefresh but I don't, because some people have had bugs in it and it should be frozen 42 hours before using to kill any bugs/mites that were in it, Yesterdays news cat litter is great as bedding. Don't use anything that has a strong smell near them (Unless its food) As their respiratory systems are very sensitive, No candles, perfume, body sprays, Air fresheners anything near their cage or in the same room as the cage, As it can cause respiratory infections.
You will need to bring them to the vet ATLEAST once in their life, rats are very prone to respiratory infections, And tumors especially in female rats.
Here's a list of good and bad foods to feed your rats (: I hope you enjoy them