Also recommend
https://www.amazon.com/Prisoner-State-Secret-Journal-Premier/dp/1439149399
Premier during tiananmen, tried to argue for leniency. Was sacked afterwards and under house arrest the rest of his life. Secretly recorded tapes and got them out to be published.
> No its not. It is acknowledge by pretty much any military historian of China that the siege happened.
> And starving thousands of men, women and children to their death is magnitude way worst than killing belligerents.
Yes, a siege happened. But they certainly won't acknowledge the events the way you described it. Try harder.
> Li Mi, Sun Li Jen, Liu Yu zhang, The 3 Mohamed of the North West (Which were ethnic Hui that commanded a mix of Turkic Salars, Han Chinese and Hui soldiers).
Let's just say I found it tremendously interesting that I asked you to name one great leader, and you chose to name military leaders and not one stateman. I'd say that speaks more about you than me.
> Now lets play the same game, name me one PRC leader that has half the political and military clout as Ma Bu Fang that is part of an ethnic minority.
Feel free to look into He Long of the Tejia ethnic minority.
> Do you have any family that were part of the 1989 protests? I do, they were students at Fudan and Beida. Of course they would not shoot up a place were EVERYONE in the world was looking over with camera. They did however shoot up much of Beijing and conducted terrible massacre in Chengdu, were they cleaned up and massacres everybody.
Want to tell us more about what happened in those areas? Did students commit any crimes? How long were they there? How long before government forces moved in?
> Read this book when you have the time.
> http://www.amazon.com/Prisoner-State-Secret-Journal-Premier/dp/1439149399
No problem. If it's an objective source, I may even make a purchase. Otherwise, I'd be happy to make a trip to the library and treat it the same as any political hack job like from Ann Coulter or Michelle Malkin.
>We'll have to agree to disagree. War is hell, and while any loss of life is regrettable, war was never a dinner party. Men do die during war. Plus the account of the events is questionable in itself.
No its not. It is acknowledged by pretty much any military historian of China that the siege happened.
And starving thousands of men, women and children to their death is magnitude way worst than killing belligerents.
>With the exception of Sun Yat-sen, name one great leader that came from the ranks of the KMT.
Li Mi, Sun Li Jen, Liu Yu zhang, The 3 Mohamed of the North West (Which were ethnic Hui that commanded a mix of Turkic Salars, Han Chinese and Hui soldiers).
Now lets play the same game, name me one PRC leader that has half the political and military clout as Ma Bu Fang that is part of an ethnic minority.
>Funny how the passage of time continually validates the CPC's account of history time and time again.
Top kekt.
Do you have any family that were part of the 1989 protests? I do, they were students at Fudan and Beida. Of course they would not shoot up a place were EVERYONE in the world was looking over with camera. They did however shoot up much of Beijing and conducted terrible massacre in Chengdu, were they cleaned up and massacres everybody.
Read this book when you have the time.
http://www.amazon.com/Prisoner-State-Secret-Journal-Premier/dp/1439149399
Not sure how good it is in terms of convincing people, but the man wrote a book: https://www.amazon.com/Prisoner-State-Secret-Journal-Premier/dp/1439149399
Zhao ZiYangs autobiography type book about those times is amazing.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1439149399/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_xYsnzb15GXSXD
To ride on this comment, I would recommend this book https://www.amazon.com/Prisoner-State-Secret-Journal-Premier/dp/1439149399 by Zhao Ziyang, then Premiere of the PRC. He made an appearance urging the protesters to end the hunger strike as recorded in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRshth1Nyb4 and later he was subjected to house arrest.