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What is the rest of your setup, phono, amp, speakers?
The AT-VM95E is sufficient or the Denon DP300.
The 2M Red on it's own is overpriced for what it is.
If you really want the 2M Red get one preinstalled on a Pro-ject Debut Carbon!
Here’s the link to the Project Debut Carbon, £279:
Pro-Ject - Debut Carbon DC (Black) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00IIMXATU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_Y7ATX0A3YF12K2N0VJ1Q?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I think it’s quite a lot cheaper than the EVOs that I saw
Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC £279. Then use a phono stage preamp between the turntable and headphone amp.
In the UK?
Rega Planar 1 is built in the UK high component and build quality and easy setup plug and play.
Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC adds adjustable tracking force and a better cartridge.
LP120X is ok if you don't mind a hollow plastic plinth. Pass on the basic Lenco L-3808.
Is this the Debut Carbon you're talking about? You said its better than Essential 3 but is this better than the RT82? So far the only thing i've heard that's bad on the rt82 is the arm and that the turntable mat is rubber and that's why i've also been looking at pro-ject.
I'm not familiar with the House of Marley, but a solid turntable in your price range is the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon: https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Ject-Debut-Carbon-Piano-Black/dp/B00IIMXATU
It's minimalist for sure, and it punches above its weight for the price. You won't find a cheaper turntable with a carbon fiber tonearm, and it comes with an Ortofon 2M Red cartridge. For a direct comparison, we can look at wow and flutter, which are measures of distortion in a turntable. Wow and flutter for the Pro-Ject is .10%, where the House of Marley has a wow and flutter of .30%.
Do keep in mind that if you decide to go with the Pro-Ject, you'll need need a receiver with a phono stage or a dedicated phono amplifier in order to use it, since it doesn't have that built in.
Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC. It has a carbon tone arm and a Ortofon 2M Red cartridge. It also has an easy upgrade path if you want to tweak later. Make sure your receiver has a phono input, or else you'll need a preamp (another $40-80.)
https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Ject-Debut-Carbon-DC-Black/dp/B00IIMXATU
It seems to be a well received table around here. A bit of a step up from the entry level options like the U-Turn Orbit. I gave it a lot of consideration but ultimately went with the Orbit. The only consistent complaint is that it appears a lot of people get hum on this table. Supposedly the DC version of this reduced (or eliminated) that particular issue, so if you go new, you may want to opt for that model:
https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Ject-Debut-Carbon-DC-Black/dp/B00IIMXATU
UK built Rega Planar 1 £249 is easy setup plug and play.
The Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC £279 adds adjustable anti-skate and a better cartridge.
Or look for a used UK Rega Planar 2 or Planar 3.
Okay, well this is from the US Amazon site but it comes out to $500 USD, or $635 CAD
Turntable: Pro-Ject Debut Carbon
Phono Preamplifier: Pro-Ject Phono Box DC
I'd use the remaining funds on up-keep & accessories like a carbon fiber brush, a cork mat and a stylus cleaner
Það væri næs að fá fleiri upplýsingar hjá þér, auk þess er þetta rosalega lágt budget ef þig langar í plötuspilara af einhverju viti, nema þig langi að fara í gamalt og/eða notað, því fylgir þó því viðvörun að gamlir og/eða notaðir plötuspilarar eru ekki í stöðugri sölu, amk ekki á Íslenskum mörkuðum, og auðvitað að gamlir og góðir plötuspilarar breytast lítið í verði ef þeim er viðhaldið almennilega.
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VIltu geta skipt um cartridge/haus? Þú getur held ég nánast undantekningalaust alltaf skipt um nál, en að geta skipt um cartridge/haus er lúxus, sem og að fá plötuspilara sem er ekki með innbyggðum formagnara.
Viltu geta tengt spilarann við venjuleg hljómtæki eða viltu tengja hann beint við tölvu með usb?
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Stutt gúgl skilaði annars þessari síðu.
Fyrsti plötuspilarinn sem er listaður á þessum lista, sem er formagnaralaus, er Pro-Ject Debut Carbon, en samkvæmt Amazon, fæst hann ódýrastur á snefil yfir 57.000kr fyrir utan innflutningskostnað og tolla, með tollum og öll myndi ég telja þig vel sloppinn að fá hann til landsins samtals undir 85.000kr.-
Hefði gefið þér nákvæman kostnað til Íslands, en sökum aukinnar eftirspurnar hefur Amazon dregið úr vöruframboði til nokkurra landa, Íslands, þar á meðal.
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In the UK a good deal on a Project Debut Carbon £269 or a built in the UK Rega Planar 1 £239.
In the UK, neither.
In the UK get a built in the UK Rega Planar 1 £299 or B-stock for £239 that is easy setup beginner plug and play. Or look for a used Rega on Gumtree and check local Rega dealers for trade-ins.
If you want a Project then the Project Debut Carbon £269 is 3 steps up from the Primary and adds better adjustments and a better cartridge than the Planar 1. Balance the tonearm then set the tracking force.
Plus an amp or stereo receiver with a built in phono preamp:
- Basic compact https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stereo-Bluetooth-Vacuum-Amplifier-Turntables/dp/B08LDBK335
- Better full size https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334541505080
Starter speakers:
- https://www.richersounds.com/q-acoustics-q3020-matte-graphite.html
- https://tibo-electronics.com/products/legacy-5/
Plus speaker wire.
Or look for a used integrated amp or stereo receiver and a used pair of Wharfedale, KEF, Monitor Audio, Q Acoustics or other speakers.
It's the cheap $5 mechanism with the inexpensive ceramic cartridge.
Anything better worth buying will have at least the white AT diamond tip stylus and then an MM cartridge and RIAA phono preamp.
A good value in the UK is the Project Debut Carbon DC.
Or look for a used built in the UK Rega Planar.
Sold out, it was discontinued a year or more ago and they just has a bunch left in stock.
However in the UK you can get a step up to the last Debut Carbon DC in stock at Amazon for not much more.
Or a built in the UK Rega Planar 1 is easy setup beginner plug and play. Or look for a used Planar 2 or Planar 3. Check your local dealer for trade ins.
Or other Project models:
- Project Debut III Phono has a built in phono preamp.
- Project Debut III Esprit has an acrylic platter.
- Project Debut Recordmaster II has a built in phono preamp and USB output.
Turntable: Project Debut Carbon
Speakers:
- https://www.richersounds.com/wharfedale-diamond-220-blk.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/q-acoustics-q3020-matte-graphite.html
Speaker amplification with a built in phono preamp and Bluetooth:
- Douk Audio X1 compact starter amp.
- Sony STR-DH190 stereo receiver.
- Or look for a used integrated amp or stereo receiver with a phono input. If needed, you can add Bluetooth to most any amp without it by connecting a small inexpensive Bluetooth receiver or an Alexa Echo Dot adds WiFi streaming with voice control.
Plus Speaker Wire then How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire.
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Turntable:
- Planar 1 is easy setup beginner plug and play. The Planar 2 has a better tonearm with better adjustments. Both have a basic starter cartridge. Or look for a used Planar 3. Check local dealers for trade ins.
- For less cost than the Planar 1 the Project Debut Carbon £245has better adjustments and a better cartridge.
Preferably have the phono preamp outside of the turntable, not in the turntable.
Amplification with a built in phono preamp and Bluetooth:
- Compact Douk Audio X1
- Full size Sony STR-DH190 with a remote.
- Or look for a used integrated amp or stereo receiver with a phono input. You can add Bluetooth to most any amp without it by connecting a small inexpensive Bluetooth receiver or an Alexa Echo Dot adds WiFi streaming with voice control.
Speakers on sale £119:
- https://www.richersounds.com/wharfedale-diamond-220-blk.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/q-acoustics-q3020-matte-graphite.html
Plus Speaker Wire then How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire.
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Powered speakers with a built in phono preamp and Bluetooth: Kanto YU6 £375.
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In the UK pass on a Fluance turntable.
You get a better value on a better built in the UK Rega Planar 1, 2 or 3.
Or a Project Debut Carbon.
Or a Project Debut Carbon EVO adds a speed switch, better bearings and a better platter.
Planar 1 is easy setup beginner plug and play. The Planar 2 adds better adjustments. Both have a basic starter cartridge. Or look for a used Planar 3.
For less cost than the Planar 1 the Project Debut Carbon adds better adjustments and a better cartridge.
Get 5.25" mid bass driver 2020i for a small to medium size room. Get the larger 6.5" 3030i for a medium to large size room. Or Wharfedale, Q Acoustics or JBL towers 299 to 349 and then you don't need to buy speaker stands.
Plus a Douk Audio X1 compact starter amp with a built in phono preamp and Bluetooth. Or a Sony STR-DH190 stereo receiver with a built in phono preamp and Bluetooth.
Or look for a used integrated amp or stereo receiver with a phono input. You can add Bluetooth by connecting a small inexpensive Bluetooth receiver or an Alexa Echo Dot adds WiFi streaming with voice control.
Plus Speaker Wire then How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire.
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>The budget could be anywhere from £200 - £500 ish depending.
Turntable https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pro-Ject-Debut-Carbon-DC-Black/dp/B00IIMXATU 244
Speaker amp with a built in phono preamp https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stereo-Bluetooth-Vacuum-Amplifier-Turntables/dp/B08LDBK335 155 or https://www.richersounds.com/sony-str-dh190.html 199
Speakers https://www.richersounds.com/wharfedale-diamond-220-blk.html 119 or https://www.richersounds.com/q-acoustics-q3020-matte-graphite.html 119.
Speaker wire https://www.amazon.co.uk/KabelDirekt-speaker-2x2-5mm%C2%B2-Transparent-polarity-copper/dp/B01C79R35G 13
How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire.
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Turntable https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pro-Ject-Debut-Carbon-DC-Black/dp/B00IIMXATU 244
Speaker amp with a built in phono preamp https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stereo-Bluetooth-Vacuum-Amplifier-Turntables/dp/B08LDBK335 155
Speakers https://www.richersounds.com/wharfedale-diamond-220-blk.html 119 or https://www.richersounds.com/q-acoustics-q3020-matte-graphite.html 119.
Speaker wire https://www.amazon.co.uk/KabelDirekt-speaker-2x2-5mm%C2%B2-Transparent-polarity-copper/dp/B01C79R35G 13
How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire.
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Turntable:
Pass on the T1 that lacks user adjustable anti-skate and has high wow and flutter.
If you want a Project then get the better Project Debut Carbon DC.
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Amplification:
Pass on the Yamaha AS201 that lacks a built in phono preamp.
Get speaker amplification with a built in phono preamp for the Debut Carbon:
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Speakers: The Q Acoustics 3020 are good to start with.
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Speaker Wire:
Links to the QED cables and Cambridge Banana Plugs? The "speaker cables" may already have banana plugs. If QED are pricey then you don't need to spend that much.
Get KabelDirekt then How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire.
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Turntable: Project Debut Carbon DC
Speaker amplification with a built in phono preamp and Bluetooth:
Speakers:
- https://www.richersounds.com/wharfedale-diamond-220-blk.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/q-acoustics-q3020-matte-graphite.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/tibo-harmony-8-black.html floor standing towers, then you don't need to buy speaker stands.
Speaker Wire: Pure Copper then How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire. Optionally now or later add banana plugs.
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pro-Ject-Debut-Carbon-DC-Black/dp/B00IIMXATU
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wharfedale-Diamond-Bookshelf-Standmount-Speakers/dp/B08QVKYQT6
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AIYIMA-A07-TPA3255-Amplifier-Desktop/dp/B08TTT25Z3
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fosi-Audio-Turntable-Phonograph-Preamplifier-Black-1/dp/B08TLRPMDC
£603
total budget would be between £500/£600 all in!
Turntable: Project Debut Carbon DC
Amplification with a built in phono preamp:
Speakers:
- https://www.richersounds.com/wharfedale-diamond-220-blk.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/q-acoustics-q3020-matte-graphite.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/tibo-harmony-8-black.html, with towers you don't need to buy speaker stands.
Speaker Wire: Pure Copper then How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire. Optionally now or later add banana plugs.
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Pass on the T1 that lacks adjustable anti-skate and has high wow and flutter.
In the UK if you want an easy setup beginner plug and play then get a built in the UK Rega Planar 1 or look for a used Rega.
If you want a Project then get the better Debut Carbon DC that is a step or two up from the T1.
Pass on the hollow plastic AT-LP120X unless you prefer that style.
Pass on the basic Project Primary for £249.
For the UK or EU the Project Debut III £222 is 2 steps up with better components for less cost. Plus a £19 starter phono preamp or a £55 better phono preamp if not using an amp or receiver with a built in phono preamp.
Or in the UK go 3 steps up to the ProJect Debut Carbon DC £244 plus one of the phono preamps above.
Rega are high quailty and are a good value in the UK since they are built there without import costs.
The Planar 1 is easy setup beginner plug and play with a decent starter cartridge.
The Planar 2 has better adjustments with a better tonearm.
The Planar 3 is very worthwhile step up with better components and includes a better cartridge or buy without a cartridge and add your own.
The Project Debut Carbon costs less than the Planar 1, has a better cartridge and has better adjustments. Balance the tonearm then set the tracking force.
The Rega and Debut Carbon require removing the platter to move the belt to the other pulley to change speeds. Not a bit deal if you don't switch from 33 to 45 very often. Or at least with the Planar 3 you can add a £250 NEO PSU that adds a speed switch.
The new Project Debut Carbon EVO adds a speed switch, a better platter and better bearings than the regular Debut Carbon.
Pass on the Sony PS-LX310BT. If you must have automatic playback then get the better AT-LP2X.
The older RT81 is not worth buying since the newer improved RT82 adds an optical sensor speed controlled motor for much lower wow and flutter and the speed won't drift since the sensor is monitoring the speed 400 times a second.
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Turntables to buy in the UK:
- Built in the UK Rega Planar 1 is high quailty and easy setup beginner plug and play with a decent cartridge to start with.
- Lower cost Austrian designed Czech built Project Debut III has a better cartridge and better adjustments, balance the tonearm then set the tracking force.
- Or the next step up Project is the Debut Carbon DC.
Plus a stereo receiver with a built in phono preamp:
- https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334493415041 best deal.
- https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234613096266
- https://www.richersounds.com/aiwa-amu-120bt-black.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/sony-str-dh190.html
Or a mini amp and a phono preamp:
- Mini amp: https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Channel-Amplifier-Speakers-Adapter-BT20A/dp/B07BQC7GNL
- Phono preamp: https://www.thomann.de/gb/art_deejaypre_ii.htm
- Plus an RCA cable.
Plus passive speakers:
- https://www.richersounds.com/wharfedale-diamond-220-blk.html great value.
- https://www.richersounds.com/q-acoustics-q3010i-graphite.html are also great to start with.
Plus speaker wire. Then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.
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Or look for a used stereo receiver or integrated amp and a pair of used passive speakers.
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Turntable: Project Debut Carbon
Speaker amplification with a built in phono preamp:
- https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334490463938
- https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334493415041
- https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234613125291
- https://www.richersounds.com/sony-str-dh190.html
Passive speakers:
- https://www.richersounds.com/wharfedale-diamond-220-blk.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/q-acoustics-q3020-matte-graphite.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Q+Acoustics+Q3020i
Plus speaker wire. Then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.
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Built in the UK Rega Planar 1 or look for a used Rega or an Austrian/Czech Project Debut Carbon DC.
Or over budget Rega Planar 2 or look for a used Planar 2 or Planar 3 or Project Debut Carbon EVO adds a speed switch.
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Pro-ject Debut Carbon DC or look for a used built in the UK Rega Planar. Plus a phono preamp if not using an integrated amp or stereo receiver with a built in phono preamp via a phono input. Do you already have speaker amplification and speakers?
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A good direct drive no.
In the UK a great value are high quality built in the UK Rega. A new Rega Planar 1 is easy setup beginner plug and play. Or look for a used Planar 2 or Planar 3.
Or the Pro-ject Debut Carbon DC has better adjustments and cartridge than the Planar 1.
Plus a phono preamp: FX Audio, Art DJ Pre II or Pro-Ject Phono Box.
In the UK a great value are built in the UK Rega. A new Rega Planar 1 is easy setup beginner plug and play. Or look for a used Planar 2 or Planar 3.
Or Pro-ject Debut Carbon DC has better adjustments and and better cartridge than the Planar 1.
Plus a phono preamp: FX Audio, Art DJ Pre II or Pro-Ject Phono Box.
What is your speaker amplification and speakers?
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In the UK a great value are built in the UK Rega. A new Rega Planar 1 or look for a used Planar 2 or Planar 3.
If you want a Pro-ject then pass on the basic Primary E and get the better Debut Carbon DC.
Plus a phono preamp: FX Audio, Art DJ Pre II or Pro-Ject Phono Box.
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Higher quailty turntables:
- Built in the UK Rega Planar 1. Or look for a used Rega.
- Austrian/Czech Pro-ject Debut Carbon DC.
Plus a phono preamp, basic and upgrade later, or FX Audio, Art DJ Pre II, or Pro-Ject Phono Box MM/MC.
What is your speaker amplification and speakers?
Don't buy a T1 that lacks user adjustable anti-skate and is pricey for what it is.
If you want an easy setup beginner plug and play turntable then get a built in the UK Rega Planar 1.
If you want a Pro-ject then get a Debut Carbon DC for less cost than the more basic T1.
If you need a Pro-ject with a speed switch then spend more for a Debut Carbon EVO and you can start with lower cost speaker wire and or lower cost speakers.
Then get the phono stage preamp outside of the turntable, built into the amp or receiver or separate external.
Speaker amplification with a built in phono premp. Or look for used options for half the cost.
Q Acoustics Q3020i are good or Wharfedale Diamond 220 may be almost or just as good for £80 less or Q Acoustics 3020 are the previous version to the 3020i for £60 less.
Save money with standard speaker wire that is just as good. Then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.
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Turntable:
- Built in the UK high quailty Rega Planar 2. Or look for a used Planar 3.
- The Pro-ject Debut Carbon EVO does add a speed switch and a better cartridge.
- Lower cost Pro-ject Debut Carbon DC on sale has the same cartridge as the EVO but no speed switch, change the belt to the other pulley which is the same as on the Rega Planar 1 and Planar 2.
Amplification and speakers:
Pass on AudioEngine. You have the budget for better speakers and better value from many UK brands.
Amplification with a built in phono stage preamp starting at £249.
5.25" mid bass driver speakers:
- https://www.richersounds.com/wharfedale-diamond-220-blk.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/q-acoustics-q3020-matte-graphite.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Q+Acoustics+Q3020i+&cat=1808
- https://www.richersounds.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Monitor+Audio+Bronze+50&price=169-229&cat=1736
- https://www.richersounds.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Bowers+%26+Wilkins+607+S2&cat=1533
6.25" speakers:
- https://www.richersounds.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Q+Acoustics+3030i&cat=1533
- https://www.richersounds.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Triangle+Borea+BR03+&cat=1808
8" speakers
Or floor standing tower speakers, then you don't need to buy speaker stands.
Plus speaker wire. Then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.
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In the UK you can get a higher quality built in the UK Rega Planar 2 or the Austrian/Czech Pro-ject Debut EVO for around the same cost as the made in China RT85.
Or for less cost than the RT82 a Pro-ject Debut Carbon DC on sale.
If you must have a direct drive turntable with a hollow plastic plinth for some reason then the AT-LP120X is the version for home listening. The AT-LP140X adds DJ features if you want to DJ with it, not needed or not really worth paying more for home listening.
Built in the UK Rega Planar 1 is high quailty easy setup beginner plug and play. Or look for a used Rega.
Pro-ject Debut Carbon DC has a step up in adjustments and a better cartridge.
Either plus a basic starter phono stage preamp for the basic Panasonic system until you upgrade to a better stereo.
Lower budget starter options with a built in phono preamp: Automatic AT-LP2X has adjustable tracking force like the Rega and Pro-ject. Or the basic AT-LP60X is easy setup plug and play.
The starter turntable to buy in the UK is the built in the UK Rega Planar 1. It's high quality easy setup beginner plug and play.
If you need to go lower cost then get the Pro-ject Debut Carbon DC on sale for 50 less. It has better adjustments and includes a better cartridge. Balance the tonearm then set the tracking force.
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Turntable:
- Built in the UK Rega Planar 1 is easy setup beginner plug and play.
- Pro-ject Debut Carbon has a better cartridge and better adjustments.
Amplification with a built in phono stage preamp via the phono input.
Or if low on budget power them with a mini amp plus a phono preamp and later upgrade one part at a time.
Or if there is also a TV in the room an AV receiver with a built in phono stage preamp.
Speakers:
Or floor standing towers, then you don't need to buy speaker stands.
Plus speaker wire. Then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.
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In the UK you can get a built in the UK Rega Planar 1 or an Austrian/Czech Pro-ject Debut Carbon that cost twice as much in the USA as a Fluance RT82.
In the UK you get much better value with the better Rega Planar 1 or Pro-ject Debut Carbon that cost almost twice as much as the Fluance RT82 and AT-LPW40 do in the USA.
Get the Planar 3 if you can.
The Planar 1 is easy setup beginner plug and play. The included cartridge is basic but decent. The anti-skate can be hard to adjust.
Project options are Debut III, Debut Carbon, Debut Carbon EVO, Debut Carbon PRO, X1.
The Rega Planar 1 does have anti-skating, it's set to the correct spec at the factory. It's just not very easy to adjust if you later switch to a different cartridge.
Pass on the basic Primary. If you want a Pro-ject get a better one:
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Turntable:
If you must have automatic with a built in phono stage preamp:
- AT-LP2X or the Denon DP-300 is only 30 more.
Better manual turntables without a built in phono stage preamp:
- Project Debut III
- Project Debut DC
- Built in the UK Rega Planar 1.
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Much better speakers:
Powered by a mini amp:
Plus a phono preamp for the Pro-ject or Rega turntables (not needed for the AT-LP2X or Denon).
- Basic starter Behringer PP400
- A bit better FX Audio
- Better Project Phono Box MM/MC
Or look for a good used stereo receiver or integrated amp with a built in phono stage preamp via the phono input. New examples.
Plus speaker wire. Then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.
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You already have a phono preamp in the receiver via the phono input so start with that one. You can later optionally upgrade to a better external one later.
Pass on the Rega Planar 1 Plus since it lacks a switch to ever bypass the built in phono stage preamp.
The built in the UK Rega Planar 1 for £299 is a good value in the UK. It's easy setup beginner plug and play.
Pro-ject options: Balance the tonearm then set the tracking force.
- Debut III
- Debut Carbon (DC)
- Debut Carbon EVO is around the same cost as a Planar 2.
Or look for a used Rega Planar 2 or Planar 3. Check local Rega dealers for trade ins.
In the UK get a high quality built in the UK Rega:
- Rega Planar 1
- Rega Planar 2
- Or look for a used Rega.
Pass on the Pro-ject T1 that lacks adjustable anti-skate and the wow and flutter is high for a turntable of that price.
Better Projects:
Manual Audio Technica with a built in phono preamp:
- https://www.richersounds.com/audio-technica-lpw30tk.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/audio-technica-lpw40wn-walnut-plinth.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/audio-technica-lpw50pb.html
Automatic Audio Technica with a built in phono preamp: AT-LP2X
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>Budget is currently around 800 pounds.
In the UK you can get a built in the UK Rega Planar 1 for 300. Or look for a used Planar 2 or Planar 3 possibly for around 300.
Or also better prices on Pro-jects than the USA too:
Plus Amplification with a built in phono stage preamp.
Then instead of the external Mani form the USA put the that budget towards the best speakers you can get.
Even Larger Monitor Audio Bronze 100
Or same size as the Q 3020i are KEF Q150 or Monitor Audio Bronze 50.
Floor standing towers. Then you don't need to buy speaker stands.
Plus speaker wire.
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Setup Guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers
More turntable options
- Built in the UK https://www.hifigear.co.uk/rega-planar1.html
- https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Pro-Ject-Debut-Carbon-DC-Black/dp/B00IIMXATU
- https://www.richersounds.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=debut+carbon+evo adds a speed switch instead of switching pulleys.
In the UK you can get the high quailty built in the UK Rega Planar 1 £299 that is easy setup beginner plug and play. Or look for a used Planar 1, P2 or P3. Check local Rega dealers for trade ins.
Lower cost options are Debut III £218 and Debut Carbon (DC) £279. They both include a better cartridge. They are not plug and play so you will balance the tonearm then set the tracking force.
If not using a receiver or amp with a phono input then connect an external phono stage preamp to the Rega or Pro-ject.
A decent turntable with a basic built in phono stage preamp is the AT-LP120X £239 which costs £60 less than the AT-LPW30TK and AT-LP40WN that are both oddly currently the same £299 cost.
Lower cost automatic turntables with a basic built in phono stage preamp:
- AT-LP2X £169 with adjustable tracking force and removable cartrdige.
- AT-LP60X or Teac TN-175, either for £129, are easy setup beginner plug and play without adjustable tracking force or a removable cartrdige.
In the UK the built in the UK Rega Planar 1 is a great value and is good for a beginner since it's easy setup plug and play. The included cartridge is good enough to start with and performs well on the Planar 1. You can later upgrade the stylus to elliptical tip.
Or look for a used Planar 1, P2 or P3. Check local Rega dealers for trade ins.
If you want a Project then a better option than the Essential III and lower cost than the Debut Carbon (DC) £279 is the Debut III £218.
The Debut III is a step up from the Essential III and the Debut III costs less.
The Debut Carbon (DC) is still worth spending a bit more on since it may have a bit better motor or other components. Though yeah the carbon fiber tonearm is not necessarily any better than the aluminum tonearm.
Primary < Essential III < Debut III < Debut Carbon (DC) < Debut Carbon EVO
The OM10 is just as good as the newer version 2M Red. If you start with OM5 then when it wears out and it's time to replace you can install an OM10 stylus.
The Fluance RT82 is a good value in the USA. You get much better prices on Rega in the UK, the Planar 1 costs and also better prices on Pro-ject.
What is your amplification and speakers?
Setup Guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers
Any particular reason for the Sony?
In the UK the brand to buy is high quailty built in the UK Rega, a new Planar 1, or a new Planar 3 if you have the budget, or a used P3.
Or a Project Debut Carbon or the new EVO.
Plus an amp with a built in phono stage preamp via the phono input.
Or an AV receiver with a phono input if there is also a TV in the room. Then you can optionally add more speakers for movie and TV surround sound.
Plus speakers
- https://www.richersounds.com/q-acoustics-q3020-matte-graphite.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/cambridge-audio-sx50-matt-black.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/wharfedale-diamond-220-blk.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/q-acoustics-q3020i-black.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/monitor-audio-bronze-50-black.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/kef-q150-black.html
Or larger
- https://www.richersounds.com/cambridge-audio-sx60-matte-black.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/elac-debut-b6-2-black.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/q-acoustics-3030i-black.html
Or even larger
Or floor standing towers
Plus speaker wire. Then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.
Setup Guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers
Do you have many 45 speed records? Will you be changing speeds often?
In the UK the high quality UK built Rega are a great value. Rega Planar 1 or a look for a better used P3. Pass on the Plus version since yeah it lacks a switch to ever bypass the built in phono stage preamp.
Pass on the basic automatic Denon and Sony. Pass on the hollow plastic AT-LP120X.
If you want Audio Technica for some reason then https://www.richersounds.com/audio-technica-lpw50pb.html or https://www.richersounds.com/audio-technica-lpw40wn-walnut-plinth.html.
You can start with an integrated amp or stereo or AV receiver that has a built in phono stage preamp via the phono input if there is not one in the turntable. Then you can optionally later upgrade to a better external phono stage preamp. If the amp or receiver does not have a phono input then yeah you will need an external phono stage preamp if the turntable does not have one built in and most good turntables don't.
Setup Guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers
In the UK a high quailty built in the UK Rega Planar 1 or you can probably find a good number of used Regas and also check a local dealer for trade ins.
If you want a Pro-ject then a Debut III or Debut Carbon. Pass on the T1 that lacks user adjustable anti-skate and has a high wow and flutter for a turntable of that price range.
Do you have many 45 speed records that you need to change the speed often for?
The Pro-ject Debut Carbon EVO adds a speed switch.
If you want AT with a speed switch and a basic built in phono stage preamp then instead of the AT-LP120X:
Turntables
- Rega Planar 1 is built in the UK high quailty easy setup beginner plug and play.
- Pro-ject Debut III adds easier adjustments and a better cartrdige. Balance the tonearm and set the tracking force.
- Pro-ject Debut Carbon is the next step up over the Debut III.
- If you want Fluance then the RT81 is not worth buying anymore since the newer improved RT82 adds an optical sensor speed controlled motor for much lower wow and flutter and speed variation and the speed won't drift since the sensor is monitoring the speed 400 times a second.
Speakers:
German Lautsprecher in the UK?
The Edifiers for half the cost of the turntable will be a sound quality bottleneck until you can later upgrade to speakers at or above the qauility of the turntable. Ideally spend just as much on speakers as on the turntable or buy a used integrated amp or receiver and used speakers for half the cost of the turntable.
Or start with separate components and later upgrade one part at a time.
- Phono preamp for the turntables I listed.
- Mini speaker amp.
- Passive speakers.
- Speaker wire plus How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.
Or if you want powered speakers then Tibo 3.1 Plus are a good alternative to the Edifiers.
Setup Guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers
Ideally get the standard Rega Planar 1 without the built in phono stage preamp since the Plus oddly lacks a switch to ever bypass the built in phono stage preamp.
Active speakers are not absolutely necessary.
Rega Planar 1 > Sony STR-DH190 with a built in phono stage preamp > Q Acoustics 3020
More speaker options:
- https://www.richersounds.com/wharfedale-diamond-220-blk.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Cambridge+Audio+Minx+XL
- https://tibo-electronics.com/products/harmony-8-refurbished/ towers, then you don't need to buy speaker stands.
Turntable option: Pro-ject Debut Carbon has easier to adjust anti-sakte and tracking force and a better cartridge.
Setup Guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers
A best buy in the UK is the high quality built in the UK Rega Planar 1 that is easy setup beginner plug and play. Or look for a used one under £200.
Or the lower cost Austrian/Czech Pro-ject Debut III or for a bit more than the Planar 1 the Pro-ject Debut Carbon both have easier to adjust anti-skate and a better cartridge.
If you must have an automatic turntable then the AT-LP2X adds adjustable tracking force and a removable cartridge over the AT-LP60X.
If you want a manual Audio Technica then the solid MDF plinth AT-LPW50PB over the hollow plastic AT-LP120X.
If getting a Fluance then pass on the older RT81 since the newer improved RT82 adds the new optical sensor speed controlled motor for much lower wow and flutter and speed variation and the speed won't drift since the sensor is monitoring the speed 400 times a second.
Do you already have speakers?
Setup Guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers
In the UK the good starter turntable to buy is the built in the UK Rega Planar 1 that is easy setup plug and play. Or check a local Rega dealer for a used trade in Planar 3.
Or if you want a Pro-ject then the Debut Carbon. Or the Debut Carbon EVO adds a speed switch. Both have easier adjustments and a better cartridge than the Planar 1.
Plus a Fono mini or Phono Box or better Phono Box S2 phono stage preamp.
Then for headphones a Head Box S2 headphone amp.
the turntable to buy in the UK is the high quailty built in the UK [Rega Planar 1](https://www.hifigear.co.uk/rega-planar1.html). It's easy setup beginner plug and play.Or the [Pro-ject Debut Carbon](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pro-Ject-Debut-Carbon-DC-Black/dp/B00IIMXATU) has easier adjustments and a better cartridge. Like the Fluance and AT turntables balance the tonearm then set the tracking force.
Usually only entry level turntables have a built in phono stage preamp and they are usually basic entry level $10 in parts.
The good starter turntable to buy in the UK is the built in the UK high quailty Rega Planar 1 and it's easy setup beginner plug and play. In the USA it costs much more at $525!
Or the Pro-ject Debut Carbon has easier adjustments and a better cartridge. Balance the tonearm and set the tracking force.
The A500 is a good integrated amp to start with.
If neither the turntable nor the receiver or integrated amp has a built in phono stage preamp then you will need an external one:
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Art-Inc-DJ-PRE-II/dp/B00LPI2JIC
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rega-Fono-Mini-A2D-Mk2/dp/B07NCYJ1PR
- https://www.richersounds.com/project-phono-box-black-soc.html
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cambridge-Audio-Alva-SOLO-Preamplifier/dp/B07CGMRMFY
Setup Guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers
TurntableL
The older RT81 is not worth buying anymore since the newer RT82 adds an optical sensor speed controlled servo motor for much lower wow and flutter and speed variation and the speed won't drift since the sensor is monitoring the speed 400 times a second.
The good starter turntable to buy in the UK is the built in the UK high quailty <strong>Rega Planar 1</strong> and it's easy setup beginner plug and play. In the USA it costs much more at $525!
Or the Pro-ject Debut Carbon has easier adjustments and a better cartridge. Like on the RT82 balance the tonearm and set the tracking force.
Then for the Planar 1, RT82 or Debut Carbon connect it to an external phono stage preamp if not using a receiver or integrated amp with a phono input. If low on budget you can start with a basic Behringer PP400 that is the same or a bit better quailty as the one in the RT81. Or a step up is the Art DJ Pre II.
If you must have a built in phono stage preamp for some reason, external is usually preferred for more choices and isolation from the turntable, then the Audio-Technica AT-LPW50PB has the same speed sensor motor as the RT82 and it also has the 33/45 speed switch if you must have that if you are changing speeds often.
Powered speakers:
If you must have small 4" mid bass driver powered speakers for a small room then Tibo 3.1 at least look better than the Edifiers and may sound a bit better too.
Amp and passive speakers:
With a separate amp and passive speakers that you can later upgrade one part at a time.
Speaker amplification with Bluetooth:
- Fosi-Audio
- Tibo Ti435 or Richer Sounds. Optionally connect an Echo Dot for voice control of WiFi music streaming and it also has Bluetooth.
- Tibo SIA50
- Sony STR0DH190 has a built in phono stage preamp for the Planar 1, RT82 or Debut Carbon so you don't need to buy a separate one.
Plus passive speakers that are a step up from the Edifiers:
- Q Acoustics 3020 good speakers, good deal.
- Wharfedale Diamond 220 for a bit more.
- Tibo Harmony 8 floor standing towers, then you don't need to buy speaker stands.
Plus speaker wire then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.
Setup guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers
>too low quality and have wow and flutter
Cheap turntables have high wow and flutter.
The older Fluance RT80 and RT81 have 0.20% wow and flutter.
The newer improved RT82 adds an optical sensor speed controlled servo motor for very low wow and flutter of 0.07%, low speed variation, and the speed won't drift since the
A great value in the UK is the high quality made in the UK <strong>Rega Planar 1</strong> that is easy setup beginner plug and play or look for a used one under £200.
Or the Pro-ject Debut Carbon has easier adjustments and a better cartridge. Balance the tonearm and set the tracking force.
If you need to buy under £200 then:
Automatic turntables with a hollow plastic plinth:
- <strong>Audio Technica AT-LP60X</strong> is easy setup beginner plug and play.
- Audio Technica AT-LP2X adds adjustable tracking force and a removable cartridge. Balance the tonearm and set the tracking force.
Manual turntable with an MDF plinth:
- Lenco LBT-188, balance the tonearm and set the tracking force.
Setup guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers
Setup Guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers
Edifier are powered speakers with a built in speaker amp.
The £150 Edifiers will be a sound quality bottleneck for the £300 turntable. Ideally spend just as much or more on speakers as on the turntable or buy a used receiver or amp and passive speakers for half the cost.
For the turntable you can good prices on better Rega and Pro-ject in the UK.
Rega Planar 1 is built in the UK, is higher quailty, and is easy setup plug and play.
Or the Pro-ject Debut Carbon has easier adjustments and a better cartridge.
Then connect either one to a Sony stereo receiver with a built in phono stage preamp and Bluetooth.
Or for lower cost a Fosi Audio BT20A £75 with Bluetooth plus a phono stage preamp: Behringer-PP400 £17 plus an RCA cable.
Either option above to power passive speakers:
- Stand mount Q Acoustics 3020 or Wharfedale Diamon 220.
- Or floor standing tower Tibo Harmony 8 £99 and then you don't need to buy speaker stands.
- Plus Speaker Wire £9. Then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.
>I’m not coming into this as a huge audiophile ....but I’m a little pensive about the quality of the cartridge.
If you are concerned about quailty then you are an audiophile.
What is the rest of your setup, amplification and speakers?
Pass on both the RT81 and T1.
If you want a Pro-ject get the better Pro-ject Debut Carbon (DC). The lower level T1 lacks user adjustable anti-skate and has higher wow and flutter.
If you want a Fluance then get the better new improved Fluance RT82 that adds the new optical sensor speed controlled servo motor for much lower wow and flutter and the speed won't drift since the sensor is monitoring the speed 400 times a second.
Or the turntable to get in the UK is the built in the UK <strong>Rega Planar 1</strong> that is high quailty and easy setup beginner plug and play.
Then if you are not using a receiver or amp with a phono input connect a small inexpensive or better phono stage preamp:
- Behringer-PP400 £17 to start with is around the same quailty as the one in entry level turntables and you can always upgrade to a better one later if you have good speakers.
Or a step up:
Setup guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers
In the UK get the built in the UK high quality Rega Planar 1 and it's easy setup beginner plug and play. It costs much more at $525 in the USA! Or check a local dealer for a used Planar 2 or 3 trade in.
If you want Pro-ject then get the Debut Carbon (DC). The next step up is the EVO.
Yes, however the Samsung speakers will be a sound quality bottleneck until you can upgrade to a better stereo or AV receiver or integrated amp and some better passive speakers.
You don't need to spend $50 extra for the Bluetooth version of the turntable. You can connect the standard AT-LP120X with the included RCA cable to the RCA audio input on the back of the Samsung.
For a turntable in the UK you can get a great price on the higher quality built in the UK easy setup plug and play <strong>Rega Planar 1</strong>. It costs 35% more in the USA.
Or a Pro-ject Debut Carbon.
Plus a phono stage premap for either of them to connect between the turntable and the Samsung shelf system.
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-PP400-Microphono-Compact-assorted/dp/B000H2BC4E is sufficient for the low quality of the very basic Samsung speakers.
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fosi-Audio-Preamplifier-Phonograph-Pre-Amplifier-Dark-Grey/dp/B07XNTHHBP
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nobsound-Preamp-Preamplifier-Turntable-Amplifier/dp/B07TP3W2NM
- better https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rega-Fono-Mini-A2D-Mk2/dp/B07NCYJ1PR
- better https://www.richersounds.com/project-phono-box-black-soc.html
Or get an upgraded amp or stereo receiver with a built in or external phono stage preamp plus a much better pair of speakers.
- https://www.richersounds.com/tibo-amp435.html plus https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000H2BC4E
- https://www.richersounds.com/tibo-sia50.html plus https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000H2BC4E
- https://www.richersounds.com/sony-str-dh190.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/aiwa-amu-120bt-black.html
Speakers:
- https://www.richersounds.com/wharfedale-diamond-220-blk.html great deal
- https://www.richersounds.com/q-acoustics-q3020-matte-graphite.html
- towers https://tibo-electronics.com/products/harmony-8-refurbished/ then you don't need speaker stand.
Plus speaker wire. https://www.amazon.co.uk/AmazonBasics-16-Gauge-Speaker-Wire-1-3/dp/B006LW0W5Y then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.
Setup guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers
Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Speaker Stands and Placement, Accessories and Vinyl Care
Pass on the Plus since it lacks a switch to every bypass the built in phono stage preamp.
Get the standard Rega Planar 1.
Or a Pro-jet:
Speakers:
- Turntable > phono stage preamp > mini amp > passive speakers, or floor standing towers, plus speaker wire. Then later upgrade one part at a time.
- Turntable > better stereo receiver with a built in phono stage preamp > better passive speakers, plus speaker wire.
- Turntable > phono stage preamp > compact powered speakers for a small room.
Setup guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers
Audio Guides, Speaker Stands and Placement, Accessories and Vinyl Care
Pass on the Sony that is not any better than the AT-LP60X that costs less.
If you want a Pro-jet then pass on their lowest cost Primary and spend a bit more for a better Project:
Or a high quailty built in the UK Rega Planar 1 that is easy setup beginner plug and play. Or look for a used Planar 1 for under £175.
Speakers:
- Debut III or Carbon or Planar 1 > phono stage preamp > mini amp > passive speakers, or floor standing towers, plus speaker wire. Then later upgrade one part at a time.
- Debut III or Carbon or Planar 1 > better stereo receiver with a built in phono stage preamp > better passive speakers, plus speaker wire.
- Debut or Carbon or Planar 1 > phono stage preamp > compact powered speakers for a small room.
Setup guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers
Audio Guides, Speaker Stands and Placement, Accessories and Vinyl Care
The AT-LP120 is discontinued and £80 below retail for a used one is not that great of a deal especially if it needs a new stylus.
The AT-LP120 was replaced by new X versions.
AT-LP120X for home listening.
AT-LP1*40*X adds DJ features for DJ use.
In the UK consider a high quality built in the UK Rega Planar 1 that is easy setup beginner plug and play. Or look for a used one under 175.
If you must have Audio Technica for some reason then AT-LPW50PB.
Or the similar Fluance RT82 adds auto stop. Pass on the older RT81 and RT80 that lack the new speed sensor that the RT82 has. Pass on the RT83 since the cartridge is not any better.
| Item | Current | Lowest | Reviews |
|---|---|---|---|
| Pro-Ject - Debut Carbon DC (Black) | £279.00 | £279.00 | 4.8/5.0 |
| Fluance RT82 Reference High Fidelity Vinyl Turnta… | £299.98 | £299.98 | 4.6/5.0 |
| Audio-Technica AT-LPW50PB Manual Belt Drive Turnt… | £299.00 | £299.00 | 4.6/5.0 |
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Why not a high quality built in the UK Rega Planar 1? Great value at £275 in the UK. In the USA it's $475 which converts to £375.
Or an Austrian/Czech Pro-ject Debut Carbon?
The Fluance RT82 £299 and AT-LPW50PB £299 are likely both made in the same Chinese factory and they both seem to have the same optical sensor speed controlled servo motor. The RT82 has auto stop and lower wow and flutter since the belt is on the outside of the platter. The AT-LPW50PB has a basic built in phono stage preamp.
For a low budget you will be looking for entry level components that are good enough to start with to be in you budget and not worrying
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Option 1:
Pick a good £225 to £299 turntable without a built in phono stage preamp and then a low cost stereo setup that you can upgrade later. Or look for a used stereo setup.
<strong>Rega Planar 1</strong> is built in the UK and high quality easy setup beginner plug and play.
Austrian/Czech Pro-ject:
- https://www.thomann.de/gb/pro_ject_debut_iii_hgb.htm
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pro-Ject-Debut-Carbon-DC-Black/dp/B00IIMXATU
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pro-Ject-Project-Debut-Audiophile-White/dp/B079M8LBY8
Option 2:
A £129 low cost entry level turntable with a built in phono stage preamp and spend the rest on a good stereo setup for the best sound quality since speakers will make the most difference.
- https://www.richersounds.com/audio-technica-lp60xusb-black.html automatic turntable is easy setup beginner plug and play.
Option 3:
A decent £199 to £219 turntable with a built in phono stage preamp and a decent stereo setup.
- https://www.richersounds.com/lenco-lbt-188-walnut.html
- https://www.richersounds.com/audio-technica-lpw30tk.html
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Speakers:
Powered speakers:
- Low cost starter powered speakers: https://tibo-electronics.com/?s=3.1+plus+refurbished&post_type=product
Amp and passive speakers: More flexible so you can optionally later upgrade one part at a time:
Amplification:
- Low cost mini amp: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fosi-Audio-Bluetooth-Amplifier-Receiver-Silver/dp/B08DND3VHS
- Compact amp: https://tibo-electronics.com/products/sia50-smart-integrated-amplifier-50-refurbished/
- Full size amp: https://tibo-electronics.com/products/ti435amp-integrated-amplifier-refurbished/
- Full size receiver with a built in phono stage preamp: https://www.richersounds.com/sony-str-dh190.html
- Or if there is also a TV in the room an AV Recevier https://www.richersounds.com/home-cinema/home-cinema-separates/av-receivers.html
Any of the above to power passive speakers:
Under £100:
- Tibo Legacy 1+
- Tibo Harmony 8 floor standing towers, then you don't need to buy speaker stands.
Better 5.25":
- Wharfedale Diamond 220
- Q Acoustics Q3020
- Cambridge Audio Minx XL
- Cambridge Audio SX50
- Q Acoustics Q3020i
Larger 6.5":
Plus speaker wire. OFC Speaker Wire or lower cost CCA then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.
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Used: Or look for a used stereo or AV receiver or integrated amp. In the UK one brand to look for is Cambridge Audio. Plus a pair of used passive speakers.
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Phono stage preamp:
If you get a Rega or Pro-ject turntable without a built in phono stage preamp and you are not getting a receiver or integrated amp with a built in phono stage preamp then connect an external phono preamp to the turntable:
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-PP400-Microphono-Compact-assorted/dp/B000H2BC4E entry level to start with.
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/ART-DJPRE-Phono-Line-Pre-Amplifier/dp/B000AJR482
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rega-Fono-Mini-A2D-Mk2/dp/B07NCYJ1PR
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Project-Phono-Turntable-Pre-Amplifier-Black/dp/B000CR6RP8
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Setup guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers
Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Speaker Stands and Placement, Accessories and Vinyl Care
Which model Bose speaker? It will likely be a sound quailty bottleneck for a turntable. Your a musician and that is what you listen to music on?
The Rega Planar 1 is a far better turntable than the Sony.
To give you an idea on how good a value the Rega Planar 1 is in the UK:
- In the USA the Rega Planar 1 costs $475.
- In the USA the Sony costs $199.
Basically the higher quailty Planar 1 is worth twice the cost of the Sony.
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I recommend turntable, receiver, passive speakers:
Turntable:
- Rega Planar 1
- Rega Planar 2
- Pro-ject Debut Carbon DC
Receiver with a built in phono stage preamp so you don't need a separate external one:
- https://www.richersounds.com/sony-str-dh190.html with Bluetooth.
- Or if there is also a TV in the room an AV receiver with 4K HDMI. Then you can optionally later add more speakers for TV and movie surround sound. If it does not have a built in phono stage preamp via a phono input then add a PP400 or better Art DJ Pre II or Rega Fono Mini.
Either to power passive speakers:
Under £100 passive speakers:
- Tibo Legacy 1+
- Floor standing towers, then you don't need to buy speaker stands: Tibo Harmony 8.
Better 5.25" passive speakers:
- Wharfedale Diamond 220
- Q Acoustics Q3020
- Cambridge Audio Minx XL
- Cambridge Audio SX50
- Q Acoustics Q3020i
Larger 6.5" passive speakers:
Or look for a used stereo or AV receiver or integrated amp. In the UK one brand to look for is Cambridge Audio.
Plus speaker wire.
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If you want lower cost powered speakers for a small room:
- Turntable: One from above list.
- Powered speakers: https://tibo-electronics.com/?s=3.1+plus+refurbished&post_type=product.
- Phono stage preamp: Art DJ Pre II or Rega Fono mini or low cost to start with Behringer-PP400.
The Denon 4700 has a built in phono stage preamp via the Phono input so you don't need a separate one.
The high quality easy setup plug and play Rega Planar 1 is built in the UK.
Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC or Debut III S Audiophile are still a decent value compared to the newer improved Debut Carbon EVO for 150 more that adds a speed switch and a better platter and bearings.
If you want Audio Technica then the better AT-LPW50PB or even the AT-LPW40 instead of the AT-LPW30.
Yes ok, but I think he needs a whole system here, so that leaves just $150! Found a Klipsch R-15PM for $250, a powered speaker that actually has a phono input. So what table for $400? I guess this used Debut Carbon DC will do. Might sound halfway decent.
The Primary is £179, however pass on it since the wow and flutter is high.
Isn't the Audio Technica LPW30 £219 and the Planar 1 £249?
Planar 1 is the best option of your choices.
If you want Pro-ject:
What are your speakers?
Consider spending more on the turntable and much less on the phono stage premap and upgrade the preamp later.
Planar 1 is high quality. Debut III adds adjustable anti skate and a better cartridge.
Consider spending more on the turntable and much less on the phono stage premap and upgrade the preamp later.
Pro-Ject Debut Carbon EVO is a worth while improvement.
Or the Planar 2 adds adjustable bias over the Planar 1.
For the phono stage preamp you can start with a Hama or TC-750 and upgrade later.
Guides: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers and Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care. Check out r/BudgetAudiophile for speakers and speaker amplification.
Built in the UK, high quality:
Pro-ject:
Guides: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers and Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.
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Pass on the Sony.
Built in the UK, high quality:
- Rega Planar 1
- Rega Planar 2 adds adjustable bias with the revised model that was released in September.
Pro-ject:
- Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC is 150 less than the EVO.
- Pro-Ject Essential III A is on sale for 50 less than the DC.
Phono stage preamp with USB output:
Guides: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers and Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.
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It’s a Pro-Ject Debut Carbon: Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC Turntable with Ortofon 2M Red Cartridge (Piano Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IIMXATU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_4SPZKSNKXMEZZEA42E0B
Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC or Pro-Ject Essential III A are both good.
The DC has a bit better speed control. The aluminum tonearm on the Essential may be a bit better than the carbon one and it has the cool looking acrylic platter. The cartridges are basically the same, previous and newer version is most of the difference.
Pass on the Sony PSHX500.
UK built Rega Planar 1 £179 slight seconds or Rega Planar 1 £249 are high quality easy setup plug and play with a basic cartridge.
Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC £299 adds adjustable anti-skate and a better cartridge.
For smaller speakers Q Acoustics 3020 or Wharfedale Diamond 220 on speaker stands. Or at least turn that speaker away from the wall a bit. How to position your speakers for great sound and Stereo Music Listening.
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Pro-Ject Debut Carbon EVO adds the speed switch, better bearings and an improved platter.
If your budget is under £200 then the Audio-Technica LPW30TK £195 after cash back is better than the LP60X. Or the Audio-Technica ATLP120XUSB is £20 over budget.
Better turntables over budget are the high quality built in the UK Rega Planar 1 that is easy setup beginner plug and play or the Pro-Ject Essential III and the Debut Carbon DC both add adjustable anti-skate and a better cartridge over the Planar 1.
Audio-Technica LPW30TK £195 after cash back.
Over budget:
Better option built in the UK Rega Planar 1 easy setup plug and play.
Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC adds adjustable anti-skate and a better cartridge over the Planar 1.
Guides: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers and Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Accessories and Vinyl Care.
Check out r/BudgetAudiophile for speakers and speaker amplification.
Turntable using built in phono stage preamp does not need to be grounded to anything.
Why do you want the phono stage preamp built in? Outside of the turntable is preferred for isolation of the electronics from the turntable when you have the choice and Pro-ject has many without one.
In the UK? Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC £279.
In the USA?
The new improved Debut Carbon EVO $499 includes the $150 Sumiko Rainer cartridge.
Music Hall are made in the same factory as Pro-ject and a good value when on sale:
- Music-Hall-MMF-2.2LE ~~$499~~ $399 demo.
- Music Hall MMF-2.2 ~~$449~~ $419.
- Music-Hall-MMF-2.3 ~~$499~~ $419 display model.
- Music Hall Classic ~~$599~~ $479 display model.
Setup Guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers
Which model speakers?
Those are speaker wire connectors for passive speakers that are powered by a stereo or AV receiver or integrated amp or compact or mini amp.
Turntables:
- UK built Rega Planar 1 £249 is easy setup plug and play.
- The Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC £279 adds adjustable anti-skate and a better cartridge.
To power the passive speakers:
- Sony STR-DH190 has Bluetooth and a built in phono stage preamp. Or look for a similar used stereo receiver or integrated amp.
- Tibo TI435AMP then add an external phono stage preamp however by that time you may as well buy the Sony that has one built in.
Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Accessories and Vinyl Care.
Check out r/BudgetAudiophile for speakers and speaker amplification.
The new X version LP120X has some improvements over the old version for home listening and no longer has the anti-skate and preamp problems. However in the UK pass on Audio Technica and get a UK built Rega Planar 1 £249. Or from the EU the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC £279 adds adjustable anti-skate and a better cartridge. Or look for a used UK Rega Planar 2 or Planar 3.
Rega Planar 1 is easy setup plug and play and built in the UK.
Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC adds adjustable anti-skate and a better cartridge than the Rega.
Guides: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers and Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Accessories and Vinyl Care. Check out r/BudgetAudiophile for speakers and speaker amplification.
If you do go new, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC is on sale for £279.
Do you already have speakers?
Phono stage preamp outside of the turntable is preferred if you have the choice.
If you use a receiver or integrated amp to power passive speakers then many have a built in phono stage preamp.
Turntables:
Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC is a better turntable and it costs less.
Or the high quality made in the UK Planar 1 or Planar 2.
If Rega Planar 2 then make sure to get the new version since September that now has adjustable bias.
Guides:
- Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers.
- Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Accessories and Vinyl Care.
- Check out r/BudgetAudiophile and their PSA for amplification and speakers.
Pro-Ject - Debut Carbon DC is a better turntable.
Or UK built Rega Planar 1.
Or Pro-ject on sale with a built in phono stage preamp.
Question about what speakers to get!
The TT I have: Pro-ject Debut Carbon
The pre-amp I have: Pro-ject MM
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Which speakers under $600 would you recommend? I would love Bluetooth but I heard this impacts the vinyl sound quality? Please help!
No or just the stuff that is not desirable goes on sale.
Also don't buy the T1 since it's not very good. it has the same high wow and flutter as the basic AT-LP60X!
If you want Pro-ject save up for the better Debut Carbon DC (Black) or the Pro-Ject (Debut III S Audiophile (White) is a bit better for the same price.
Or Rega Planar 1 built in the UK is good quality and easy setup beginner plug and play.
If you must have a built in phono stage preamp starting under £200:
Prices are after cash back.
- Audio-Technica LPW30TK £195.
- Audio-Technica AT-LPW40WN £299.
- Audio-Technica LPW50PB £319.
Audio-Technica LP5X £299.
Receiver: (works as a pre amp and amp) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078WFDR8D/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_l0.tFbQNN56AH
Speakers: (Just a single speaker) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072BQK3YL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_t1.tFb4RVWPH6
Hope this helps! If you need anything else message me. I love collecting records and experimenting with set-ups!
Turntable source is unusually quiet:
I recently purchased a setup that includes the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC turntable (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IIMXATU), the Fosi BT20A integrated amplifier (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BQC7GNL), and KEF Q150 speakers (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0728GJWD9). My issue is that audio specifically from the new turntable is significantly quieter than from other sources. I've tried the amplifier's built-in Bluetooth and other phono sources, and it's easy to turn them up to the point where it would drown out casual conversation, and I'd rather not risk cranking it all the way. Meanwhile, the turntable with volume entirely maxed out, while not whisper quiet, is nowhere near as loud. I've tried swapping phono cables, switching the polarity, rebalancing the tonearm, and plugging the turntable into a different power source without effect. The bass and treble controls on the amp increase the volume a little, but the volume always seems to hit a ceiling at around the 2 o' clock position. Am I just a dummy that should have purchased a preamp or missed an obvious mistake, or is something wrong here?
Thanks for your help!
Turntable source is unusually quiet:
I recently purchased a setup that includes the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC turntable (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IIMXATU), the Fosi BT20A integrated amplifier (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BQC7GNL), and KEF Q150 speakers (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0728GJWD9). My issue is that audio specifically from the new turntable is significantly quieter than from other sources. I've tried the amplifier's built-in Bluetooth and other phono sources, and it's easy to turn them up to the point where it would drown out casual conversation, and I'd rather not risk cranking it all the way. Meanwhile, the turntable with volume entirely maxed out, while not whisper quiet, is nowhere near as loud. I've tried swapping phono cables, switching the polarity, rebalancing the tonearm, and plugging the turntable into a different power source without effect. The bass and treble controls on the amp increase the volume a little, but the volume always seems to hit a ceiling at around the 2 o' clock position. Am I just a dummy that should have purchased a preamp or missed an obvious mistake, or is something wrong with the turntable itself here?
Thanks for your help!
I’m buying my first setup. I have it all in my amazon cart but want to make sure I haven’t missed anything. Any help would be appreciated.
Turntable Pro-Ject Debut Carbon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IIMXATU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=AKR88PAWTQVN2&psc=1
Pro-Ject Phono pre-amp https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000YEK1AQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A14FMGGKFTICNN&psc=1
Edited 1280DB speakers https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XGG6MFV/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A23AS8PFN4IRUQ&psc=1
I think I only need those three items to have a decent starter set. Am I missing something and/or would any of you guys offer insight if I’m buying decent stuff or if I should look in another direction? Thanks for the help.
Looks like it might be this one Pro-Ject - Debut Carbon DC (Piano Black)
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As far as the standard DC; it's a very minor inconvenience. You simply lift the platter off, move the belt to the 45rpm position on the spindle, and put the platter back on.
You can also get the Pro-Ject Speed Box later on if you went with a non-automatic and wanted to add that capability.
It really all comes down to preference. If you didn't go the route of the the Espirit package, you have more room to play and can always add on the features in that combo later.
For instance, you could go with the following (assuming you have a preference for the Pro-Ject and Ortofon carts:
Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC: $400
Ortofon 2M Bronze: $440
Pro-Ject Phono Box S: $150
Total would be $990. You wouldn't have the acrylic platter ($100 to buy separately) and you wouldn't have auto-speed change (noted above, you could get the speed box later if it was too much of an annoyance). But the Bronze is a big jump over the Blue, and I did not find the platter change to give much (if any) of a sound improvement.
Personally, I'd prioritize the cartridge above most other things. Whether that's an Ortofon or something else in a similar range to the bronze.
But, at the end of the day, it's all subjective to each person. If you think the speed control and platter are must haves, and the Blue will be good enough for your system, then that TTL is definitely a good deal with the bonus accessories and it will sound good too.
Hope that all helps a bit!
Is this a decent initial set up? Thank you!!!
I want to get a decent first set up, without spending a crazy amount of money... I am just making sure that if I get these 3 things I will be able to play my vinyl and have decent quality for the price...
So this...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IIMXATU/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I3246W54Y4SBMM&colid=3RSI9NNRYK0DO
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000H2BC4E/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=IE1PHW0H4C9SL&colid=3RSI9NNRYK0DO
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equals good listening? Let me know if I'm missing something or need to add something... or any other recommendations.
Thank you!!
This Project DC Carbon is a great table at a moderate price. Got mine used at a local store for 300.
I'm trying to build a simple setup, using this turntable:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IIMXATU?psc=1&smid=A2XGE4CX5AV74X
connected with RCA cables to these speakers:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A7J534G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1FVGXDO8NIMN0&psc=1
The way I understand it is, the turntable requires a preamp, but the speakers have phono inputs so I won't need one. Further, I won't need an amplifier or receiver since the speakers are active. Will this setup work? Thanks!
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Hey guys. I need a new turntable.
I have a Yamaha A-S801 driving a pair of Klipsch RF-7ii
I'm deciding between a Pro-ject DC Carbon and a Rega Planar 2
I'm leaning towards the Pro-ject to save some money. Do you think this is the wise choice or will I be missing out?
Heyy Reddit, so I've recently rekindled my love for Vinyl and I want to completely upgrade my entire setup. Right now I've got an entry level Sony turntable that's served me well, hooked up to an old pair of Logitech computer speakers I've had forever. Also have a 55inch Sony LED and PS4. Been working nearly 70 hours a week recently so that O/T needs to go to good use!
Looking to get the -Pro-Ject Debut Carbon-Vinyl Turntable ( https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Ject-Debut-Carbon-DC-Black/dp/B00IIMXATU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1476371389&sr=8-3&keywords=pro-ject+debut+carbon)
-Denon Receiver (https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-S720W-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B01CRYWWFC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476371433&sr=8-1&keywords=denon+avr-s720w)
Will also get a Phono Preamp for the TT.
Just wondering what you guys think about this setup? Also I know these speakers are bi-amp capable, I'm assuming the receiver is as well, but it doesn't seem to be specified as so. Oh and sorry for the stupid long Amazon links. Any opinions / feedback etc would be appreciated!
Heyy Reddit, so I've recently rekindled my love for Vinyl and I want to completely upgrade my entire setup. Right now I've got an entry level Sony turntable that's served me well, hooked up to an old pair of Logitech computer speakers I've had forever. Also have a 55inch Sony LED and PS4. Been working nearly 70 hours a week recently so that O/T needs to go to good use!
Looking to get the -Pro-Ject Debut Carbon-Vinyl Turntable ( https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Ject-Debut-Carbon-DC-Black/dp/B00IIMXATU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1476371389&sr=8-3&keywords=pro-ject+debut+carbon) -Denon Receiver (https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-S720W-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B01CRYWWFC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476371433&sr=8-1&keywords=denon+avr-s720w) -Speakers (https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-XL7F-Performance-Floorstanding-Loudspeakers/dp/B01J67V2EU/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1476371678&sr=8-11&keywords=Fluance&th=1) Will also get a Phono Preamp for the TT.
Just wondering what you guys think about this setup? Also I know these speakers are bi-amp capable, I'm assuming the receiver is as well, but it doesn't seem to be specified as so. Oh and sorry for the stupid long Amazon links. Any opinions / feedback etc would be appreciated!
Totally new to all of this. Can I run a Pro-ject Debut Carbon straight into an av receiver like the Sony STRDH550 and have to work, or do I need some kind of phono preamp? What even is a phono preamp?
So i'm guessing you can't buy a vintage receiver in your area? If so, I would recommend:
Receiver. Anything with a phono amp. Will be around 150-200 with shipping
Edit: spelling
So I'm brand new to the home audio world in general, but for the last couple of years I've been dreaming about starting a record collection and buying a decent stereo setup. Decent here means $1-2k budget tops.
I'm finally settled into a new job and I'm starting to think It's time to make this happen. I'm looking for recommendations for each piece: turntable, amp (integrated or power + pre), and bookshelf speakers to go in my living room. Probably a DAC at some point so I can listen to some of my digital media.
The only thing I am really firm about is a tube amplifier. I honestly just love the aesthetics and the warm sound... I know that my budget won't give me the best equipment, but I can upgrade down the road.
Here's some of the equipment I've been looking at:
Struggling on the amp, but I'm thinking something like this
I'm honestly shooting in the dark here and going mostly off of reviews. Any and all help or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers!
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