> Crosshair Dark Hero VIII
You should have 3 fan headers in the top right, directly next to that tiny Qcode display. Labelled "CPU_OPT (far left), CPU_FAN (middle) and AIO_PUMP (Right one)
Where are your radiator fans plugged in on. Which headers (Section 1.2 Motherboard layout in your manual)?
Your pump needs to be plugged in on the right one, at least 1 of the radiator fans needs to be plugged in on the middle one (CPU_FAN). Then everything SHOULD work as it supposed too.
A bios can always respond quicker to load than corsair's ICUE if you manage that to control the radiator fans, so it's recommended to plug those in directly on the motherboard. Since there are only 2 cpu-fan headers and you say this is a 360 fan you could use something like this https://www.amazon.com/Splitter-Computer-Extension-Converter-TeamProfitcom/dp/B07F8LV1BY/
and plug all 3 fans into it (leave the lighting control one where they are, i know the LL-series come with 2 cables, 1 being a standard 4 pin header) then plug that single end into the cpu fan header and all 3 will act like a single fan and respond as the bios reacts to cpu temp.
You will need to purchase a 3 way splitter, as the case does not come with one. I just bought this one. What I was concerned about was overloading a mobo header by linking 3 fans together and going over the 1A max current a header on the mobo provides. Husky Hawk explained in the thread that each fan only draws 0.2A so you can link 3 together and only draw .6A which is .4A lower than what an individual header can provide on my mother board. I'll have 2 fan headers free now which I need to fill the other empty 3 fan slots (1 rear and 2 that sit above the PSU with this particular PC case)
The screws and cables should come with the parts. You might need to buy extra fan splitter though if you have to many fans. I would same money for Windows 10 and pirate it and GPU is overprice.
Here is the link for the fan splitters: TeamProfitcom PWM Fan Splitter Adapter Cable Sleeved Braided Y Splitter Computer PC 4 Pin Fan Extension Power Cable 1 to 3 Converter 10 inches (2 Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F8LV1BY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_S4C8HKXRM9WGB27952XW?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
You don't need a new motherboard. All you need are some fan splitters. Each fan header on a motherboard can support up to 4 fans. There are fans splitters like this 2 pack of 1-to-3 PWM splitters for less than $10 that would let you run all your fans. https://www.amazon.com/Splitter-Computer-Extension-Converter-TeamProfitcom/dp/B07F8LV1BY/
Very easy and quick to install yourself too.
just bought a 2 pac from amazon its a 2 pack of 3 split have 3 exhaust fans and 3 rad fans liked each one is a master the other two on split are slaves worked well for the last month iv had them installed
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F8LV1BY?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details
If your mobo doesn't have that 1 + 2 style probably need an adapter
Gotta double check when cases come with a fan splitter that the connection works with your mobo. Same if you get fan packs with fan splitters, etc.
They sell adapters though. Never tried using them but this looks up your alley as an example
You have to buy a fan header splitter such as this one.
That mb comes with two 4-pin system fan headers. The rear fan can plug into one and the front three fans can plug into the other. The case may come with a fan splitter, but if it doesn’t, you can order something like this. (I probably should have included it in the build.)
TeamProfitcom PWM Fan Splitter Adapter Cable Sleeved Braided Y Splitter Computer PC 4 Pin Fan Extension Power Cable 1 to 3 Converter 10 inches (2 Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F8LV1BY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_NE48XV7FHSZ8MV1AFTJJ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
You don't need a fan power hub, get some PWM fan splitters and set up fans in groups by area of case on the headers. Like both side fans on 1 header ect... so it makes fans speed management easier.
Something like these: https://www.amazon.com/Splitter-Computer-Extension-Converter-TeamProfitcom/dp/B07F8LV1BY/
You can use these splitter cables as long as you don't overload the headers ~ check your mobo manual to make sure, but usually the headers support at least 1A and it looks like the MF120s are rated at 0.25A.
Just looked at the fan splitter alternatives. So something like this right?
Also if I buy something like this, the mobo will treat all of them just like any other fan right? So just like any other fan, under low workloads it'll be less rpm and under higher workloads it'll spin at max?
Will this fan splitter work to power Corsair QL 120s? Ik it won't do the RGB, but I have the RGB hub that comes in the 3 pack, gonna have to use 2 of those for my 9 fans. I'm afraid my mobo (ASUS ROG Strix X570-E) won't have enough fan headers w/o using this, and the corsair one is really expensive. Thanks!
Yup. When you have more fans to plug in than you do fan headers, a splitter can come in handy.
Just get a fan splitter. something like: https://www.amazon.com/Splitter-Computer-Extension-Converter-TeamProfitcom/dp/B07F8LV1BY/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=fan+splitter&pd_rd_r=7503d2a7-c9f3-4a48-a350-12ff0b791a23&pd_rd_w=TRvdH&pd_rd_wg=Dkjt9&pf_rd_p=0ec05f25-9534-...
The fans will all just be run at the same speed, which is fine for case fans.
I'm assuming you've already bought the blacked out items, so my only other point of contention would be to make sure that the mobo is the best one for you. It's the most expensive b550 with a good rating, so make you're getting it because it's the best choice. Considering this is a huge budget, everything else is fine. Also consider getting fan connectors in case your mobo doesn't have enough slots for them. I got these for example, but you'll have to find ones on your version of amazon probably
You don't need any USB hubs for this.
This motherboard has 3 fans headers. That's enough for your CPU cooler and two case fans. If you want more fans than that, get a couple of cheap fan splitters:
https://www.amazon.com/Splitter-Computer-Extension-Converter-TeamProfitcom/dp/B07F8LV1BY/
I bought these splitters (as I also will have 6 fans): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F8LV1BY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I don't think a fan controller is needed, as the mobo should have enough power per header to power 2-3 fans per header.
Ok I can help you out here:
So your motherboard has these fan headers:
You easiest solution here is to get a pair of 4 pin PWM fan splitters (Like these for $7.99 on amazon prime) and connect the intake and exhaust fans to the splitters. This way you can set a custom fan curve through your BIOS based on system temps.
Yeah oops I forgot to link them lol, here. Tho there is a chance that you can damage your board using 3 fans per 1 fan header
I looked up your fans and saw the fan hub included. While I didn’t get a clear picture of the fan hub connector, they looked like 4pin fan headers. Since the fan hub has slots for up to 4 fans, and you only have one other case fan, I’m not sure as to why all three CHA_fans were recognized.
Furthermore after looking at the rated amperage current, each fan draws only .23A. The typical 4pin fan header is rated for 1A, so you should be fine for that. However if you wanted to be extra sure, check your motherboard and manual and see if you have a header that says H_Amp. This typically runs higher than 1A, so it could give you more leeway. The reason I even say this is because there isn’t a need for all four fan headers on the fan hub to have PWM control when it only connects to a 4pin header on your motherboard . In the case of a fan splitter for PWM fans, there will be one ‘master’ fan and 1/2 ‘slave fans’. The motherboard only needs to talk to the master fan to control its speed, and the other slave fans match whatever the master is doing. This way it saves power, so this could be an option you try. 3 in 1 PWM Fan splitter
As for the fan that spins but isn’t recognized, I’m honestly not too sure why it would do that, since the motherboard should recognize the connection. Only thing I can think of is that it’s plugged into an incorrect header.
Between the q-fan optimization, ensuring the temp source is the cpu for all fans, or trying the fan splitter (tho I don’t think this is the issue), I hope one of them works. I’m trying to help you not have to go buy a new part if this issue is fixable
> NZXT H510
So the DS3H has two fan headers, one for your CPU fan, and then another one. I believe your NZXT case has two included fans, so your other fan header cannot natively support two case fans. You need a fan splitter to link your two case fans to the single motherboard fan header.
Something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Splitter-Computer-Extension-Converter-TeamProfitcom/dp/B07F8LV1BY
re: your question about fans - you probably need fan splitters! Something like this - so you would plug your fans into the splitter, then you can plug the splitter into your motherboard.
I would go with (1) given that it is much flexible. You just need a fan Y-splitter cable (eg. this one) to power multiple fans off the same motherboard header. Up to 3 fans per header should not be an issue usually.
Aw shoot I’m so sorry! I really thought the case came with a fan splitter for you :( well, I went back and checked the parts I purchased for my build and this actually answered my question- I bought a two-pack of three-to-one pwm fan splitters for my build from amazon.
TeamProfitcom PWM Fan Splitter Adapter Cable Sleeved Braided Y Splitter Computer PC 4 Pin Fan Extension Power Cable 1 to 3 Converter 10 inches (2 Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F8LV1BY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_lHZ6Eb2P9C88E
These work great, give a little extension to your fan cables, and allow you to plug into your CHA_FAN headers on your mobo for fan control. Hope this helps and good luck!
splitters will do the job, 1to3 like these. Then you’ll just need 3 headers on your mobo. Having individual control is inefficient (not to mention costly) when the 3 fans on the side/bottom/top are doing the same thing.
You could use a couple of these.
Gotcha. You may need to get a splitter or two if you don't have enough case fan headers on your motherboard.
You can use fan splitters on a header:
https://www.amazon.com/Splitter-Computer-Extension-Converter-TeamProfitcom/dp/B07F8LV1BY/
Just make sure that your total current draw is under 1Amp.
Noctua fans actually come with splitters in the box. (except for their redux fans)
I'm looking for the thread where this was mentioned but everything I'm reading supports all three fans being able to be run from the same header. The guideline is max 1 amp and 15 Watts for all three fans total, and these 92mm slim fans are rated at 0.11A and 1.32W. Do I need a dedicated 3-way splitter like this, or can I get away with two y-cables linked together? I'll probably order the 3-way splitter since it looks so much cleaner, or if you have any recommended brand/splitter.
This the splitter i used- PWM Fan Splitter, TeamProfitcom Adapter Cable Sleeved Braided Y Splitter Computer PC 4 Pin Fan Extension Power Cable 1 to 3 Converter 10 inches (2 Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F8LV1BY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_lvSBDbK690SM3
PWM splitters. These take 3 connections down to 1. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F8LV1BY/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_glt_i_1J14HVFMV99GHS95PYCE
USB Header splitter. Most motherboards only have 2 USB headers and you're gonna need at least one more. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085KVH16T/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_glt_i_M3SNVEMQPNXRH4B4CT46?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Don't worry about the RGB. Those will be controlled through the node/hub and the Commander. Doesn't matter which one you use for the lighting except to make sure you have all the same type of fans on their own hub (all MLs on the hub, and all QLs on the Commander, for example). By using the splitters for the PWM side of the fans you'll be able to change the fan speeds from iCue, however, the fans that are on the splitters (3 MLs and the 2 QLs) will not be controllable individually. Say you have 3 MLs on one splitter going to port 1 on the Commander, they will show up as 1 fan. So if you change the speed on port one, all 3 fans will change simultaneously. Make sense?
If this is your motherboard...
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS
...then you can find your manual here...
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS/HelpDesk_Manual/
...which shows me you have 5 fan connectors labeled CHA_FAN# and 1 AIO connector labeled AIO_PUMP.
Page 1-14 Provides specific information on what the connectors are for.
It looks as if you plan on using 6 fans you'll want to get either splitter cables or power cables. Splitter cables will allow you to connect them directly to the motherboard which would be ideal if you want RBG and speed control. Power cables allow you to connect the fans directly to your power supply and they run with no control.
Splinter cables: https://www.amazon.com/Splitter-Computer-Extension-Converter-TeamProfitcom/dp/B07F8LV1BY/
Power cables: https://www.amazon.com/CRJ-4-Pin-Sleeved-Power-Adapter/dp/B0711CR7HV/
Alternatively if any of the fans you're using is compatible with a fan controller you may be able to just connect everything to a controller instead of connecting them all to the motherboard.
TL;DR - My recommendation would be to get two 3-way Y splitters (like the one I have shared below) with three fans per header and hook it up to two headers on the motherboard.
The standard 3-pin (non-PWM) and 4-pin (PWM) fans do get powered by the motherboard header. Each mobo header has a max current rating (usually 1A for regular fan headers, 2A-3A for pump/AIO headers).
However you do not need 6 headers to power 6 fans. You can get a fan splitter (like this) or a hub (like this) to connect multiple fans to a single header. When connecting multiple fans to a single header, the motherboard will be able to read the speed of just a single fan but the same PWM/voltage signals will be distributed to all of the fans. Hence all the fans will run at the same speed.
Due to the max current limitation per header, you will need to ensure that the max current draw per header is within this limit. Check the max current draw per fan in the specs page and add all of them together. For most case fans, connecting three to a header will not exceed 1A, and hence should work.
You can get a splitter like this one.
The max current draw of each fan will be listed in the specs page of the fan. For example <strong>with Thermaltake Riing 12</strong>, it says:
>RATED CURRENT: 0.2 A
Most fans will not be more than 0.3A from what I have seen, but just for confirmation good to check. The standard Noctua ones are usually much less than 0.2A. For Noctua F-12, it says:
>Max input current: 0.05A
You have a few options:
Note that in both of these cases, you will only be able to monitor the speed of one of the fans (that will be indicated in the hub/splitter). If you are using PWM, all of the fans will run at the same RPM (i.e. same PWM signal is sent to all the fans).
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You need smth like this one, so you are able to connect all your fans/RGB
If you are short on mobo headers for fans, you can use splitter like these. Control over the splitter will control all the fans connected to it. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F8LV1BY?ref\_=cm\_sw\_r\_cp\_ud\_dp\_MRFP9YV5HTZBWCCJWGX7
Would I still be able to control RGB? I see only one of the three ends has 4pins. Also, I understand that all the fans (the front ones it this case) would all have to be the same speed and color.
Just get this. And dont worry that 2 of the cables just have 3pins thats normal.
Phanteks has a proprietary Argb 3pin connector thats called DRGB. I received a DRGB to ARGB cable with my P400A, and got a couple more from the Phanteks Neon Strip box + my AIO's box. If you want everything to be controlled from the case button, you need to reverse engineer, and hook every normal ARGB & prop. DRGB connectors to a controller, then the controller to the case. Or you can use multiple argb to drgb splitters to hook onto your fan's daisy chain that goes into the case's button controller.
amazon example 1 amazon example 2 I'm using this ARGB controller - I vould hook the phanteks fans together, then connect them with the included converter to this device, that went into the motherboard.
So this will work? Sorry for all the questions. Just want to make sure everything is set before I start putting stuff together
I have the same AIO except the non-ARGB version. I took the advice on Gamers Nexus, got a 3 way splitter from Amazon, disconnected all the fans, plugged them into the splitter and plugged the splitter to CPU_FAN. The AIO pump is plugged into AIO_PUMP. That'd be W_PUMP on your MB.
Here's a link to the splitter:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F8LV1BY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Actually it looks like the fan hubs are defective.
https://www.fractal-design.com/important-message-regarding-torrent/
I would stop using it asap. I'm just using these splitters, they work great.
I am going to take your advice and get the Quadro and use some splitters. This splitter would work fine right? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F8LV1BY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It doesn't matter which fan is plugged into the "Master" right?
Something simple, really. This should do it.
You can use some kind of hub like on your link, or cables 1 to 2 or even 1 to 3 and connect directly to mobo.
Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Splitter-Computer-Extension-Converter-TeamProfitcom/dp/B07F8LV1BY (note that this is 1st I found as example, not recommandation to that exact brand)
If you've eaten all of your case fan headers, you can hook up several fans to one with these adapters. Get around the limitations of your board!
Splitter is your best bet if the fans don't have a controller that goes with them.
https://www.amazon.com/Splitter-Computer-Extension-Converter-TeamProfitcom/dp/B07F8LV1BY/
Something like that would work. It's a 2 pack, so it's covers your needs.
If you're not looking for RGB and Speed controls, you can also just use adapter cables to connect them directly to the power supply.
https://www.amazon.com/CRJ-4-Pin-Sleeved-Power-Adapter/dp/B0711CR7HV/
Personally, I think the best approach to a quiet build is to start with a case with very good airflow.
Full it with 120mm fans wherever they can be mounted. Several fans running slowly will be quieter and more efficient at cooling a PC than one or two fans trying to do all the work. In the case of the Arctic P12 or F12, run them at 800rpm or lower, and they will be very quiet.
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CPU | AMD Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor | $77.98 @ Amazon |
Motherboard | ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $69.99 @ Newegg |
Memory | G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $49.99 @ Newegg |
Storage | Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $54.99 @ Newegg |
Case | Cooler Master MasterBox NR400 (w/ODD) MicroATX Mid Tower Case | $64.98 @ Amazon |
Optical Drive | Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer | $19.98 @ Amazon |
Case Fan | ARCTIC P12 PWM PST(5-pack) 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans | $27.99 @ Newegg |
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You might want to buy a set of fan splitters if you want to run several fans off of just a couple of motherboard fan headers:
https://www.amazon.com/Splitter-Computer-Extension-Converter-TeamProfitcom/dp/B07F8LV1BY/
This is optional, but if you want to maximize your silence in this build, then you should replace the stock CPU cooler with a silent one:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DZfhP6/noctua-nh-l9a-am4-338-cfm-cpu-cooler-nh-l9a-am4
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F8LV1BY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I think you need this. 4 pin splitter thing like other user was saying
The molex doesn't go into the PSU, the PSU would have a cable that has a molex connector on it.
But if the fans have RGB cables plus the normal 3/4 pin fan cables, then molex isn't necessary. Molex is a secondary power option if you don't power the fans through the board. If the fans are on and spinning, you're good.
Just in case there's confusion among the terms, here:
RGB connector (varies based on 12V or 5V)
Buy a fan splitter like this.
Just to confirm, even though only 1 of the 3 fan connectors on this Y is 4 pin, all 3 fans will spin at the PWM setting for that header?
You can get fan splitters.
https://www.amazon.com/Splitter-Computer-Extension-Converter-TeamProfitcom/dp/B07F8LV1BY/
Connect all 3 fans to splitter->adapter->video card.