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I'm not apologizing for him. His acceptance of Palin is a crucial step to why we are here now. I'm pointing out that of everyone in recent American politics, he's one of a significant few that did the literally one thing that has significantly angered putin. Read Red Notice [1], its insane the lengths Putin went to to punish Browder for unveiling his criminal antics and McCain was one of only a few that stood behind him (Browder).
You saying he's been completely asleep against Russian agents trying to take advantage of us is wrong by dint of this. However, Your underlying sentiment that he's not doing enough though isn't wrong. But we just have to be careful that we don't become so desirous of seeing things in black and white that we take on the stupider and purposefully ignorant aspects of the dumb right.
We should be able to see in nuance. We should still condemn but we shouldn't need to speak in grandiose terms of evil to make our point. The point is makeable while still being cognizant and not dismissive of the facts. The only people that need to bend facts and timebox peoples actions are people who don't have enough of truth on their side to make their point. We're not that and we don't need to be that to make the point that Republicans needed and need to do more.
[1] Red Notice: A True Story of High Finance, Murder, and One Man's Fight for Justice https://www.amazon.com/dp/1476755744/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_IT.gBbEKYT9ZY
I highly recommend Bill Browder's book, aptly named Red Notice: https://www.amazon.com/Red-Notice-Finance-Murder-Justice/dp/1476755744/
It goes into great detail about his background, his investments in Russia and subsequent uncovering of widespread corruption, what happened to Sergei Magnitsky, and the process of getting the Magnitsky Act passed with the assistance of John McCain.
A thrilling, inspiring, sad and infuriating read.
The story behind the Magnitsky act is so crazy, if you haven't heard much about it check out Bill Browder. He was the biggest western investor in Russia and his Russian lawyer Sergei Magnitsky was horribly murdered in jail after uncovering massive amounts of corruption. They expected to be lauded for bringing it to the attention of the state, but instead they tried to pin the corruption/theft on Browder and Magnitsky. After Sergei was killed, Bill made it his life's mission to pass laws in as many countries as possible (Magnistky acts) that take away corrupt Russian assets. Putin hates it, and has made Bill Browder enemy number one, put in something like 7 'Red Notices' on him, and tried multiple times to extradite him back to Russia. He has a few books on it, including one called Red Notice in fact https://www.amazon.com/Red-Notice-Finance-Murder-Justice/dp/1476755744
Excellent summary.
I read Bill Browder's book Red Notice: A True Story of High Finance, Murder, and One Man's Fight for Justice shortly after it came out, so my recollection of the exact details of what went down is a little faded by time.
Highly recommend it.
> So about economics, price of oil before putin dropped to 10$. During next 10 years it was going up and up to 150$ in 2008. With liberal reforms of 90s and professional PM and ministers in 2000-2004, Russia could be rich as Norway (at least be closer to Norway then to Turkmenistan)
Norway also had circumstances that very were particular to itself at that time. I get what you're saying, but in no way just by observing the ways Norway benefitted from it, would the same opportunity have just been 'given' to Russia. Canada has more tar sands than Saudi Arabia does. You're directly extrapolating policies again.
> But he believes in government programs, wasting trillions (stadiums for world cup 2018 are good example). What he doesn't believe is private property, from 2003 any business can be taken by FSB (the last example is michael calvey, who was just investing in russia with no politics involved. now there is no businnes -- no investment in russia).
I'm curious, have you read Bill Browder's book?
> I've given just some examples, but to sum up you can open IMF and see their projected GDP growth for Russia, which drops from 3% now to 1.6% (and part of it is just manipulation with statisctics, russian opposition talks about it a lot and their economists like Aleksashenko gove a lot of proofs).
Right, I know how fucked up generally they are.
> Putin is the garant of that stagnation.
This is hardly 'solely' on Putin's shoulders alone.
> He also really hates to see rich Ukraine, doing everything to break us in economics wars (since 2006). So yes, Putin isn't a fanatic, but he makes a lot of lives worse
This I have no doubt about.
I really enjoyed Bill Browder's reading of his book Red Notice. I learned an unbelievable amount about how Russia got to where it is and why Vladimir Putin hates America, Hillary and Obama so much.
People, if you haven't read Bill Browder's <em>Red Notice</em>, it's high time you do. This lead to the Magnitsky Act, which is one of the biggest things that Putin and Russia's oligarchs want removed.
If you think that any US citizen that Russia wants to "question" will come back the same person (or come back at all), you're deluding yourselves. Russia has repeatedly tried to get Browder arrested and sent to Russia using fraudulent Red Notices, which Interpol have repeatedly refused to honor because they're so obviously corrupt.
Russia wants Browder, and they'll use any means to get him. Sending Americans over to be "questions" gives the sham of an "investigation" they're running legitimacy.
Don't let them succeed.
I mean its weird that multiple countries that have a relatively high dependency on Russian oil decided to believe Browders proof over those of the repeated attempts to discredit him by former Russian criminals (see Red Notice, definitely interesting read and compare with this source provided). Does the documentary explain why countries would want to risk ruining relations with the country that provides a good deal of their oil to support the sanctions Browder pursued? I ask since pretty legal libel laws prevent me from seeing it. My understanding was because Magnitsky documented his abuse more than any previously documented human rights abuse case. There are pictures, names of officers involved in fraud, frequently changed reasons for his death, documents requesting the use of rubber batons in his interrogation which were later found to be the cause of his death. Lots of pretty formal evidence from the Russian government received during the investigation ordered by Medvedev that id be interested to see how the documentary would refute.
Seems like this article main supporter is (Gilbert Doctorow)[https://www.thedailybeast.com/putins-new-american-fan-club], who seems to have a dubious reputation as a profound Putin apologist. The articles main point also appears to be an insinuation that because Browder made money from transactions in Russia (which, incidentally he dedicates more than half of Red Notice discussing, so I'm not sure how much if a discovery this is) that he must have been guilty of the tax fraud claims made against him after he accused with proof the government of themselves stealing tax money in significant quantities. I can point out that this is a frequent claim the Russian government makes against dissidents, I can also point out the accusation was made in absentia and was roundly denounced by the rest of the international community.
But luckily I don't have to deal with this kind of misinformation where a ton of claims are made that when you try and individually attack never get acknowledged and are buried . I don't have to deal with them because Browder already deals with the accusations IN HIS BOOK [1]. All of the points listed in that article are explicitly called out and refuted. If you're really persistent I can give you the audiobook timestamps I apologize that I only have the audio version to cull from but if its not enough I can also link the identicle other cases where these accusations are made against other dissidents of Putin where they have also been dismissed.
Perhaps people angry at Putin all decided to crib off the exact same plan to commit tax fraud. It's possible, but still doesn't change the things Browder uncovered like the police chief who owned multiple mansions under the name of his mother who was living in poverty unable to afford food on his salary of the equivalent of a middle class Russian unable to even afford one of the cars he drove in four years of his salary, let alone the multiple other ones he had in his garage. But yeah, I'm sure right after he exposed that he thought it was a good idea to commit tax fraud AND document the fact that he paid those taxes well enough that the British court said the claims were groundless. Weird how many other dissidents did too.
Its interesting about Nekrasov. It truly is a triumph of the will that respected filmmakers are never bought and used to make films that go against their previous works. Inspiring.
Man I'd be pissed to work so hard supporting guys who make so massively and impossibly to obtain legally amount of money more than me. I wonder if they make the thank you letter personalized to make it feel worth it. Like truth, multiple sources of documented information never change, even thank you letters.
[1] Red Notice: A True Story of High Finance, Murder, and One Man's Fight for Justice https://www.amazon.com/dp/1476755744/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Eg8wBb1190DF4
Also worth checking out his book: Red Notice. I listened to the audiobook and it was short but really entertaining and informative about all the shit that goes down in Russia
Yes, everyone should pick up Browder's book, crazy crazy story
https://www.amazon.com/Red-Notice-Finance-Murder-Justice/dp/1476755744
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- 4:00- Russia doping ban reduced to two years
- Grigory Rodchenkov (Russian whistleblower) Asylum in U.S.
- 13:00- Poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal
- Bill Browder, author of Red Notice
- 15:00- The Magnitsky Act (Bill to punish Russian officials responsible for the death of Russian tax lawyer Sergei Magnitsky)
- Lance Armstrong never tested positive for doping
- Grigory Rodchenkov and Russian doping
- 21:00- McLaren Report (WADA commissioned investigation into Russian doping)
- 27:30- Floyd Landis caught for doping and Lance wouldn’t let him on his team
- 35:00- Russia used ships to beat dope testers
- 39:00- Genetic engineering in sports doping
- 40:00- CRISPR (Gene editing)
- Peter Nygard Me Too Scandal
- 42:00- Peter Nygard longevity website (lifespan.io)
- 45:00- Dog cloning technology available
- The CRISPR-baby scandal: what’s next for human gene-editing
- 48:00- Navalny says Russian officer admits putting poison in underwear
- 50:00- Bryan’s new documentary “The Dissident”
- 53:00- The murder of Jamal Khashoggi
- 55:00- The House of Saud: A Brief History of the Family That Owns Saudi Arabia
- 57:00- Saudi Arabia carried out 800 beheadings since 2015
- 61:00- The Arab Spring
- 64:00- Arab Twitter troll networks
- 75:00- The poisoning of Kim Jong Il’s brother
- 77:00- Trump administration puts forward request for immunity against prosecution of Muhammad Bin Salman
- 85:00- Trump Administration pushing $500m arms sale to Riyadh
- 88:00- Gulf States Agree to End Isolation of Qatar
- 88:00- Saudi Arabia to end feud with Qatar in Jared Kushner-brokered deal
- 92:00- Movie- Jewtopia
- 108:00- Amazon recently acquires Souq (Saudi marketplace)
Bill Browder's Red Notice is a great look into the world of how Russia in general is Cronyism/Oligarchy to the extreme. His experiences led to the Magnitsky Act in an attempt to counter some of this corruption on the world stage.
Red Notice gives a pretty great description of this from a western businessman in Russia perspecrive - https://www.amazon.com/Red-Notice-Finance-Murder-Justice/dp/1476755744
Just read a really good book about this era https://www.amazon.com/Red-Notice-Finance-Murder-Justice/dp/1476755744
I highly recommend Bill Browder's book Red Notice: A True Story of High Finance, Murder, and One Man's Fight for Justice.
He's the reason the Magnisky Act happened. It was his lawyer.
And he's on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Billbrowder
And if you decide to do that, I recommend this book: https://www.amazon.com/Red-Notice-Finance-Murder-Justice/dp/1476755744
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Great book, I recommend anyone reading it! Bill Browder - Red Notice https://www.amazon.com/Red-Notice-Finance-Murder-Justice/dp/1476755744
Sim, pesquise por voucher privatization
Procure ler também o livro 'Red Notice', do Bill Browder. Livraço. Lê-se como um romance, apesar de ser uma história real. Não consegui parar antes de terminá-lo.
I wish this was based on the book by the same name, very fascinating
Bill Browder's Red Notice is a must read: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1476755744/
I strongly recommend Red Notice by Bill Browder who helped get the Magnitsky Act passed in the US. It's very helpful in understanding Putin.
Russia has used tactics called "Active Measures" for decades. In some ways it can be a little like the 'boiling a frog' proverb. The same way that we see the Trump admin adamantly denying certain (sometimes irrefutable) liberal claims against him is similar to how the Kremlin vehemently denies wrongdoing in international politics. Some people will always believe the charismatic authority figures like Trump or Putin. And after a while, other people start to believe the false stories, or people get tired of it and stop paying attention. Its a war of attrition on facts.
We can see this when they deny the election meddling in US and other countries, or when they deny systemic doping in Olympic athletes. That is a part of a tactic which involves flooding the conversation with misleading news, undermining the credibility of institutions which would criticize them, and always denying culpability.
The international community doesn't always have much room to force Putin's hand, and the oligarchs close to Putin not only run most of Russia, but also share a network of investments in or with businesses and organizations around the world.
As far as the actual cyber activity, some users have spoken to the difficulty of tracking cyber crimes, which is true.
The Special Counsel, led by Mueller, released this indictment against Russians involved in US disinformation campaigns today.
The main defendant in question, Yevgeny Prigozhin is popularly known as "Putin's cook" because of his businesses which "host dinners between Vladimir Putin and foreign dignitaries."
Russia is somewhat of a mob state in that there is less of a line between business leaders and state officials. It is for this reason that it is harder to track such operations. But as you can read in this indictment (pdf) there are Russian businesses which act on behalf of the Russian Federation, or Putin himself, in a very secretive and fluid manner.
I recommend reading Bill Browder's book Red Notice, which reveals some of the nature of the corruption in Russia's government through the story surrounding the murder of Sergei Magnitsky. It also highlights the futility of trying to get justice in Russia when you're fighting against the state.
For background on the Magnitsky Act, check this book.
More on the Magnitsky Act here.
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