I bought a regular decibel meter for 20 bucks on Amazon. Then I cut a hole into some cardboard, put the neck of the meter through it, and measured some music I listen to frequently at a particular volume setting. My understanding was that the cardboard was to simulate the isolation that a head creates. I imagine you could probably do it with your hand, too.
Anyway, I average between 60 and 68 dB, so I felt pretty good about it and consider it 20 bucks well spent.
Telling them something is too loud does not give them a reference point to tie back to. It's not too loud to them, so they have no idea what you're talking about.
Try something like a decibel meter and tell them that their voice needs to stay under a certain level accommodating both of them as much as possible. If you can find a decibel meter app on your phone it probably has a graphical version of this although it won't be nearly as accurate and consistency will take a hit.
Here's the thing. Pick up a decibel meter like this. Then, put it in a listening position where you head would be near some speakers. For example, rest it on top of an office chair in front of a computer with speakers. Play some music, and get it to about 70-75 dBA.
Remove the meter, and sit in that chair. Listen to the music, then put your earbuds in and try to approximately match the volume. What you'll likely find is that the volume is pretty low, and what you're used to with earbuds is much, much louder.
You can do the reverse: play audio through your earbuds at about the volume you typically listen to, then play the same thing on your speakers. Turn it up until it is about the volume of your earbuds. Then, stand up, put the meter on the chair, and measure it.
If you don't want to go through all this trouble, roughly speaking, you don't want to have your music any louder than a lawn mower. Higher volumes take less time to start to damage hearing. At higher volumes, exposure for any period of time can cause permanent hearing loss.
So yeah, absolutely do not make any assumptions in sound. Hearing loss is cumulative, and in today's age, still permanent. It also can cause significant psychological issues like depression and anxiety. You don't want to destroy your ears on purpose at any point in your life. Protect your hearing starting today.
Nope. Just buy a sound meter. They're like $20 on Amazon. Your ears will thank you in a few decades.
There are various "rule of thumb" tricks, like "Can you hear the music when held at arm's length?" But these are very vague and subjective. Buy a meter.
I have been running my Z1R from a WM1A Walkman for a year. It sounds freaking amazing. I was extremely dubious of amplifiers. All of the jargon baloney about "transients" and "stopping power" that people spew makes no sense to me.
When I got an Aeon Closed X as a work headphone, I believed everyone when they said "IT NEEDS SO MUCH POWERRRR" and I bought a Schiit Fulla E to "drive" it. But the amp arrived before the Aeon, so I tested it with the Z1R.
OH MY GOD, I thought, this sounds so much FULLER and DEEPER and more REAL. Have I been missing out on audio nirvana for a year? Was I wrong?
I pulled out my dB meter and measured the headphones out of the amp vs out of the WM1A on the same song. Turns out that I could only get it within 5dB by ear. The amp was set 5dB louder. When I normalized them using the meter, the sound was identical from each source.
The same turned out to be true with the Aeon Closed X which was SOOOO POWER HUNGRY. It didn't need an amp at all to reach my desired volume, and there was no difference between the sound quality between a more powerful source a less powerful source when normalized using a dB meter.
TLDR: Louder = Better, and people suck at volume matching without equipment.
Obviously, I cannot speak to more POWER HUNGRY headphones that I have not owned. But my dubiousness remains intact.
Very important advice! I'm sorry to hear about your diagnosis.
I purchased this decibel meter in order to ensure that I was hitting 75db MAX when headphone listening (65-70 average). It's more than loud enough to hear all the detail and have plenty of "fun," but it's easy to let things get to 80+ if you're not careful. And it's worth re-measuring if you get new cans, do a pad switch, etc.
Take part of a a cereal box or whatever, cut a small hole in it, and stick the un-padded microphone through it. Then put the cardboard up against the headphone pad and measure a typical song at your normal volume.
It's kind of fun, actually. You can walk around your neighborhood to see what things register at. A busy road with medium traffic was 70db. I wouldn't want to sit next to that for more than a few minutes, so I definitely shouldn't be listening past that.
Do you have a camera tripod, or can you get one? If so, buy this and set in on the sidewalk OUT OF YOUR NEIGHBOR'S view the next time he starts playing. Take a picture of the placement with your phone (for the timestamp), and shoot video of the meter's readings.
Next, check whether your local noise laws cite a decibel limit. Compare that to the readings on your SPL meter. If measured levels are higher than what the law allows, bam! You have evidence for a noise complaint to the police (especially if you can establish a repeated pattern of behavior). You should also log your interactions with the neighbor, e.g.:
Keep this up. These are your damages, and you'll need some kind of accounting if/when you sue the guy or your landlords for loss of quiet enjoyment of your rental property. Note that this is nuclear stuff; you may not want to pursue things to this level.
Next, talk with your other neighbors. If enough people have a problem with dude's volume control issue, and enough of those people also call the cops, you'll get better results.
At the end of the day, apartment living sucks. This is especially true in the older converted apartments (I lived in one for 11 years). At the same time, though, your neighbor is being an asshole. From what you've described, he's ACTIVELY being an asshole. Tube amps and apartments generally do not mix well.
So depending where you live there are noise ordinances and very specific laws about it. From certain times you have to be less than so many dB. If they cite you it’s like any other ticket you can fight it in court. But without proof it’s your word against the officers. However Amazon to the rescue, ~$20 get yourself this decibel meter and show the cops if they come the current reading
sure, loudness of any kind is measured in decibels. you can buy a decibel meter, and look up the noise ordinance for your community or city, then measure the decibels in your yard or house to see if your neighbors are violating the law. you might be able to sue them if that's the case (using recordings from your decibel meter as evidence), especially if the police can't seem to fix the problem, but i'm no lawyer.
you can also use the decibel meter to measure the loudness of your own siren. if they're not breaking the law with their music (just being inconsiderate and annoying) and you have the headroom to add a siren on top of whatever they're playing without breaking the law, then use the decibel meter to see if the siren and music are both lawful together. if so, you will at least have your CYA in order should the police show up.
you might annoy your other neighbors though, and i do like the idea of enlisting their help in fighting the noise menace next door. and getting into a war with the next door neighbor could be dangerous, if you don't know what kind of people you're living next to. just something to keep in mind.
All you really need is cheap SPL Meter
My Limited registers 65db at 75mph on the interstate, with A/C, radio, and ventilated seats off. Registered using smart phone app.
Because people are so concerned about the differences, I just ordered this decibel meter and will test with it so we can ensure there's no variation on phones, etc - $20, if anybody else with a '23 wants to get one and we can all compare.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EZZ8B5Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
You should buy a sound meter to see if there is a noise and how much there is. The meters are fairly inexpensive and you would know. Here is one a friend had me buy and bring him:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EZZ8B5Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Just an idea and I am not selling anything.
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Both churches were what I would consider to be below a mega church but still a very big church. One was in an auditorium that could definitely fit 2,000 people. The other one was a little smaller but probably close. They both had professional sound equipment. I don't know enough about sound equipment to say anymore than that.
Do you think this would be sufficient:
I am honestly curious enough about this topic to spend $22. Not sure I'd spring for the $75 though.
>I don't know what that means. >I know what the disease is.
Well then maybe you should specify what you are talking about, so you don't use pronouns, so someone outside your head can tell what you're talking about.
>I know what the disease is. Dogs don't get diagnosed with alzheimer's you walnut.
Don't call me a walnut when you are the one who has the understanding problem. Just because a dog can't be diagnosed with alzheimer's doesn't mean. It is immune to the disease. There's only 1% difference between your dna and the dogs dna. You have all the same organs, the brain works the same way. If a dog is coming close to dying of old age it will probably also develop alzheimer's. All living things on the planet with similar anatomy will too. Also it actually might be possible that a vet might be able to diagnose a dog with alzheimer's after all.
https://www.thespruce.com/dementia-in-dogs-1117412
Welp looks like it's dementia.
>Literally no one else in the country has a law about the volume of a dog bark.
1) you don't know that. Laws can change county to county, so unless you've been to every single county, you can't actually make that claim.
2) just because everyone is doing something doesn't make it right. For example everyone in america is killing themselves with carbs. Well it must be right cuz everyone is doing it.
And everyone in the 70s used asbestos for everything. Welp everyone is doing it, must make it good and correct! good job!. Walnut.
>Can you imagine the inspector for that job?
1) find the address that recieved the complaint.
2) put feet up against fence
3) take three steps back
4) take out the noise measuring tool.
5) press button on tool.
6) see what the peak decibel is.
7) issue a fix it ticket, or walk away and do nothing based on the reading.
Holey moley! where are we going to find the einstains to do this job?! It's way too difficult! we haven't got the capable individuals that can keep up with these rigorous instructions! We better give up, it's impossible I say! it's just too damn hard!
>The cost to regulate that would be enormous.
Yeah, it would just be too expensive to have three employees per state saving people's lives by fining people that are creating noise. Oh wait, the fines can pay their salaries. Ignore that, this is too damn difficult, it's impossible I say!.
>random dogs with a microphone
I think you need to explore life more, and then you'd know about things like this
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EZZ8B5Q/
being in existence that are used in general purpose. Too bad you don't get out more often huh. But these things are great for measuring everything. You can use this too prove that the neighbors are too loud, or people use them at construction places to check if ear protection is needed.
>If you get scared enough by a dog bark to crash, you're jumpy.
Yes, let's make factual statements about things that we don't know about for things that we weren't there for. Great idea! And like the other five great idea makers before, If there is a 100 db noise, from four feet away, and there is zero warning for the noise, any human will flinch. The repercussions of that flinch is entirely circumstantial. I'd like to invite you to have a megaphone strapped to your back that would be wired to go off randomly, and we can see how unjumpy you really are.