Yeah, I second this. Something to create a gap and/or a thermal break between the grill and the table. The grill itself might not get hot enough to set the table on fire, but it would probably scorch the surface. But I'd worry about embers landing on the table and that + the heat from the grill could start a fire, and no one needs that.
You could get a box of fire bricks from Amazon (if you're in the states) for like $25-30.
https://www.amazon.com/Rutland-Products-604-Fire-Brick/dp/B000UEYZ4S/ref=sr_1_7
Using those to make a platform you'd have no worries, people use them inside forges so your grill would/should never get that hot and if it ever does, the table is not your primary concern.
> It's a concrete block, not sure if that changes anything
As /u/boredNRT said. Some people talk about concrete exploding, other people say they have used concrete for parts of their forge (usually solid fuel forge floors) for years with no issue. There is a lot of variation in concrete...
I have no direct experience so I can't say for sure. My guess is that it will disintegrate after enough thermal cycles. If/when it does, just buy fire brick instead.
> I want to make an axe head soon but I have a lot to learn first.
Tell me about it. I'm in year 2 of what looks like a 4 year plan to make a hammer :)
If you are intending to make an axe with a drifted eye, I think you will really struggle without a much larger anvil.
Where do you get the light weight fragile bricks online that should be in a forge? I bought these bricks below, and they suck. All they do is suck the heat out of the forge, and waste propane. The metal eventually gets hot and glows, but the bricks do not provide the "feedback" and do not get red hot like ones I have seen. http://www.amazon.com/Rutland-604-Products-Fire-Brick/dp/B000UEYZ4S?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
There's one to the right you can kind of see. It looks like Fire Bricks, you can get them through Amazon. Top layer appears to be held together/on with some sort of steel L shaped "rail".
Lucky me, the company that produces them is where I live, might have to see if I can get some direct!
Let me see if I can find a sketchy setup for $100 on amazon.
Item | Price |
---|---|
Firebricks | $37.65 |
Hammer | $14 |
Vise/Anvil | $26 |
Torch tip | $20 |
Harder than I thought. Still need tongs and gloves.
Got them on amazon! Here's a link to what I bought.
If you want hard brick, its on amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Rutland-Products-604-Fire-Brick/dp/B000UEYZ4S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1500563383&sr=8-1&keywords=fire+brick
For Soft brick, maybe this one: https://www.amazon.com/EuroTool-Fire-Brick-SOL-485-00/dp/B012C5ZIAC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1500563409&sr=8-1&keywords=soft+fire+brick
Here’s a Amazon link fire brick
I use those myself ( assuming you mean this kind ), and they work pretty well. One suggestion: make them fit tightly, but keep in mind you WILL have to replace them if you're forge-welding/using borax flux. The borax builds up to a really gummy consistency and sticks to the firebricks. I haven't found a way to get it off of the bricks besides just replacing them. After a while that borax will end up building up on whatever workpiece you lay on it, and you'll have to brush it off often. So fit them tight enough to keep borax from dripping below them, but not so tight that you have to tear up refractory to get them out. Mine are oriented like this to prevent a gap.
If you're not forge-welding you don't need them.
I use two rectangular baking stones. Like this separated by by four fire bricks on edge. These. 2 in the back and one on each side. It makes an pizza oven with heat on top and bottom. Preheat the grill until at least 700F. I have a big ass Weber gas grill that gets really hot. Pre bake the crust for a minute or so, bring in and top, then put back on for a few minutes more.
Warning: Be careful how far down this rabbit hole you want to go with this. Once you see how great it can be you will be experimenting to perfect your creation. The dough recipe turns into a science project where you weigh and blend different types of flour. Even weighing water. Additionally, if you cook this pie for anyone else they will be constantly be bugging you for more.
Consider yourselves warned.