{"product":{"product_id":"B002368VJ6","title":"SABRE Red Home Defense Pepper Gel With Wall Mount For Easy Access, Max Strength OC Spray, UV Marking Dye Helps Identify Suspects, Full Hand Grip For More Accurate Aim, Secure Pin Safety, 32 Bursts","price":"42.72","image_url":"https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41VB6dBvrZS._SL500_.jpg","url":"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002368VJ6"},"comments":[{"body":"Firearm prices are all sorts of fucked up right now with how 2020 is going.  \r\n\r\nYou can get a Taurus G2C 9mm pistol for under $300 shipped from Buds gunshop, and then there's the transfer and background check at the FFL.\r\n\r\nYou can always go for a big bottle of pepper spray / gel for the house.  [Saber Red is a well known brand](https://www.amazon.com/SABRE-Red-Pepper-Gel-Strength/dp/B002368VJ6) and a 13 oz bottle will run around $45, including a wall mount so you're not running around looking for the canister when you need it.\r\n\r\nIf you're more likely to use the spray inside, go with Foam or Gel.  Aerosol will make your life suck for a while if it goes off in your house.  Speaking from experience.","subreddit_name":"news","author":"Morgrid"},{"body":"a little blast of pepper spray goes a long way. Non-lethal, but incapacitated for at least 30 minutes. Sorry that happened to you! \\[Invest in one of these babies!\\](https://www.amazon.com/Red-Home-Defense-Marking-Identify-Suspects/dp/B002368VJ6/ref=sr\\_1\\_5?keywords=large+pepper+spray\u0026amp;qid=1656678359\u0026amp;s=sporting-goods\u0026amp;sprefix=large+pepper%2Csporting%2C73\u0026amp;sr=1-5)","subreddit_name":"nashville","author":"tomacco_man"},{"body":"I have no idea, but, FWIW, there are roughly 1 lb units of pepper spray marked to law enforcement for riots/crowds and to other other folks as home defense, that would/should work exactly like in the video.\r\n\r\nThis one is a gel vs the spray that seems to be up there, but...gives you an idea\r\n\r\nhttps://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B002368VJ6/","subreddit_name":"CCW","author":"ThatOrdinary"},{"body":"[this](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002368VJ6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_Y335SR24YSKPXG5DA20B)\r\n\r\nJohnny Knoxville said in his AMA that being sprayed by Sabre red pepper spray is the most painful thing he’s ever experienced in his life, get a bat or something as a lethal back up, but that spray will take the fight out of someone *very* quickly","subreddit_name":"homedefense","author":"mazer_rack_em"},{"body":"How about a really big pepper gel?  Should have less risk of affecting you by accident than a normal pepper spray.  \r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.com/SABRE-Red-Pepper-Gel-Strength/dp/B002368VJ6/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1\u0026amp;keywords=home%2Bdefense%2Bpepper%2Bgel\u0026amp;qid=1617777798\u0026amp;sr=8-1\u0026amp;th=1","subreddit_name":"homedefense","author":"Freefairfax"},{"body":"I think what you really need is a firearm and some training that will give you the confidence to be able to use it.\r\nPepper spray or gel may not stop a determined attacker. It's certainly not going to intimidate anyone especially if they are armed with a firearm.\r\n\r\nIf you're insistent on using pepper spray, use pepper gel instead. Pepper spray indoors is likely to incapacitate you as well.\r\n\r\nLook into [this product](https://www.amazon.com/SABRE-Red-Pepper-Gel-Strength/dp/B002368VJ6/ref=sr_1_26?keywords=pepper+gel\u0026amp;qid=1575732102\u0026amp;sr=8-26)","subreddit_name":"CCW","author":"BlankEris"},{"body":"\u0026gt;As a society we have been moving away from personal responsibility ... We think that advocating for personal responsibility is selfish or non-empathetic. \r\n\r\nI disagree. As a society we've been sold on this \"rugged individualism\" bullshit because the powers that be know that when people band together, *they make change happen*.\r\n\r\nThe people currently in power don't want that. They saw how the gilded age fell, when workers came together and demanded things like overtime, weekends, and the 40 hour work week. They want to go back to those days where they can get American labor just as cheaply in America as they can a third-world sweatshop. But that's a whole other fucking rant for a different topic entirely.\r\n\r\n\u0026gt;I know that other western countries haven't descended into \"crime-ridden shitholes\". But they haven't eliminated violence, or violent crime. They still have shootings. They still have terrorist attacks\r\n\r\n\u0026gt; All I'm saying is I'd rather have the most slim chance to defend myself than abandon civil liberties for a half measure of false safety.\r\n\r\n[You don't need a gun to defend your home. This is easier to fire and hit someone with, won't go through the wall and hit some poor bastard living next door to you, and I promise it will make any intruder regret the day they were born until the cops come.](https://www.amazon.com/SABRE-Red-Pepper-Gel-Strength/dp/B002368VJ6/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_469_img_1?_encoding=UTF8\u0026amp;psc=1\u0026amp;refRID=42SZA2GYFEB05D17J4G4)","subreddit_name":"PoliticalHumor","author":"PmMeYourFoods"},{"body":"Pepper spray is legal.\r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.com/SABRE-Red-Pepper-Gel-Strength/dp/B002368VJ6/ref=sr_1_23?s=sporting-goods\u0026amp;ie=UTF8\u0026amp;qid=1468714094\u0026amp;sr=1-23\u0026amp;keywords=pepper+spray\r\n\r\nI keep one of those in the car, along with my pocket knife.  If you're being assaulted, there's nothing wrong with opening up with that canister of pepper spray.  Just be aware that some folks after being sprayed multiple times, will no longer react to the spray.  Same goes for folks on Meth/PCP.","subreddit_name":"baltimore","author":"YouAlwaysGoogleMe"},{"body":"As someone who has multiple paintball guns and has entertained this idea, do not do this. \r\n\r\n\u0026gt;Don't have or want a license for arms\r\n\r\nGenerally (in the US) you don't need license for rifles and shotguns. \r\n\r\n\u0026gt;have to lock it away from my family\r\n\r\nYes, if you have kids (and this is probably an unpopular opinion) the odds are the having a gun in the house will make them less safe, not more. [https://www.healthychildren.org/English/safety-prevention/all-around/Pages/Where-We-Stand-Gun-Safety.aspx](https://www.healthychildren.org/English/safety-prevention/all-around/Pages/Where-We-Stand-Gun-Safety.aspx)\r\n\r\n\u0026gt;Plus the cops can ID them with paint? \r\n\r\nPaintball paint is easy to wash off. It's not like a dye pack for bank robbers. \r\n\r\nThe bigger concern that others have flagged are that this is bringing a toy to a gun fight. Yes, you might be able to deter an unarmed intruder but an armed intruder will be MORE likely to shoot you if you are \"shooting\" at them with paint (or pepper balls).\r\n\r\nThis is what we did instead: [https://www.amazon.com/SABRE-Red-Pepper-Gel-Strength/dp/B002368VJ6/](https://www.amazon.com/SABRE-Red-Pepper-Gel-Strength/dp/B002368VJ6/)","subreddit_name":"homedefense","author":"xyzzzzy"},{"body":"Plenty of flashlights, and maybe a few strategically placed [pepper spray cannons](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002368VJ6/)","subreddit_name":"handguns","author":"whodatcanuck"},{"body":"That is a **lot** easier said than done, especially in Boston. Getting a big-ass can of pepper spray is probably more practical. [Something like this](https://www.amazon.com/Red-Home-Defense-Marking-Identify-Suspects/dp/B002368VJ6).","subreddit_name":"boston","author":"ReferenceAny4836"},{"body":"\u0026gt; I think it's basically just, in my opinion, something you use and don't threaten people with. If you truly feel you need to defend yourself, just have it out, and use it. Although I guess if you're using it to get someone to back off, that's your personal choice.\r\n\r\nYeah, that's true - but I did successfully intimidate a guy with it just 8 days ago - the tweaker legitimately tried to start a street fight with me, chest puffed out \"I'll fuck you up!\" sort of deal. And yet pointing a [16oz can of pepper gel](https://www.amazon.com/Red-Home-Defense-Marking-Identify-Suspects/dp/B002368VJ6) at him, just pointing from 8 feet away, got him to cower up, shield has face, and meekly walk away.\r\n\r\nI don't recommend spraying tweakers with pepper spray unless it's a total last resort, it's too debilitating and now you got a screaming, crying, tweaker to deal with who won't go anywhere. Meanwhile, a couple hits with [a whip](https://thestingertools.com/collections/self-defense/products/stinger-whip-car-emergency-tool) and a tweaker can still walk away.  \r\n\r\n\u0026gt; Just like a gun, if you pull it out and have it brandished, there's a certain (good?) percentage of unstable people who are going to go straight to 'SHOOT ME' while they're rushing you, when they weren't there when they didn't know you had a gun two seconds earlier.\r\n\r\nThis **exact** situation has happened to me. \"Don't move closer or I'll shoot you\" \"I don't care, I've been shot twice mother fucker.\"\r\n\r\nYou don't want to pull a gun until you're ready and justified in using lethal force.","subreddit_name":"PortlandOR","author":"fidelityportland"},{"body":"I'm very pro-2A, but I recommend very strongly against the use of guns for self-defense in the context of a mobile lifestyle, for three main reasons. First, the law:\r\n\r\n* Concealed carry statues can vary considerably from state to state in their wording, and from city to city or county to county in their enforcement. The only way to keep a gun and ammo in a vehicle that is totally legal in all US jurisdictions is to keep them in separate, locked containers, ideally in separate compartments of the vehicle. And of course, when you need it, the most useless thing in the world is an unloaded gun.\r\n\r\n* There are a lot of jurisdictions that are incredibly harsh about defense of property with violence. There are sane and reasonable arguments on both sides of this issue, but to make a very long story story short, there are plenty of places where stopping someone from stealing your stuff (in the absence of a threat to yourself) by injuring or killing them, particularly with a gun, will get you in very, very hot water.\r\n\r\nSecond, most of the people doing this stuff are basically harmless to you, safety-wise. You can think of them as black bears. They just want something specific of yours, they'll break your shit to get it, but if you confront them, they usually just leave, and are only dangerous if you corner them.\r\n\r\nFinally, most people just aren't mentally prepared to use lethal force on another person. There's a reason military basic training includes a number of elements that are specifically designed to desensitize people to deploying violence against another human. Most people just don't want to do it; you can find videos of police officers pointing a gun at a subject and shouting \"drop the knife!\" even as they are stabbed to death by that same person. They just couldn't bring themselves to kill that subject, even though it meant their own death.\r\n\r\nFor all of these reasons, I highly recommend a high-strength [pepper gel like this](https://smile.amazon.com/Red-Home-Defense-Marking-Identify-Suspects/dp/B002368VJ6/) for self-defense on the road. It's still illegal in a number of jurisdictions, but 1) it's a hell of a lot easier to explain away than a gun, and 2) you aren't going to kill or permanently injure anyone with it, so you can immediately go full send with it when you encounter someone fucking with your shit, and know that they'll ultimately be okay.\r\n\r\nBy the way, aim for the eyebrows.","subreddit_name":"vandwellers","author":"Johnny_Lawless_Esq"},{"body":"SABRE Red Home Defense Pepper Gel With Wall Mount, 32 Bursts, 25 Foot (8 Meter) Range, UV Marking Dye Helps Identify Suspects, Full Hand Grip, Pin Safety, Gel Is Safer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002368VJ6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apan_i_C46J86WQ678J04RMT38Z\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nByrna SD [Self Defense] Pepper Ultimate Bundle - Pepper Spray, Non Lethal, Less Lethal Pepper Launcher, Home Defense, Personal Defense (Black) | Proudly Assembled in The USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0997864V5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apan_i_PP6XDX3SWQMENK2X6SK1\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nI worked in a prison for a few years, this is what we used;\r\n\r\nhttps://foxlabs.com/shop\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nFox was quite effective on even the most irate and *\"toughest\"* inmate.","subreddit_name":"conspiracy","author":"The-Real-Rorschakk"},{"body":"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002368VJ6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glc_fabc_Y26BRREJ4MD32YW1EDX5\r\n\r\n\r\nAlso get a machete","subreddit_name":"aznidentity","author":"battleFrogg3r"}]}