What is Reddit's opinion of SABRENT 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB)?

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sabrent rocket : 5000MB/s peak seq reads, 200$

> ( Keep in mind that its in-game-performance is HARD to compare with Xbox's SSD since it runs on variable speeds - the numbers above being the limit -, while Xbox's SSD runs at a 'fixed' speed )

this is false, we don't know the real world speed of the xbox SSD and there is no such things as "fixed" and "variable speeds" for an SSD

but it doesn't matter, the xbox's ssd is going to be plenty fast

I agree with this, especially for a 13 yr old. 5600X is going to be fine. It also has a stock cooler. Wait until a deal comes up for an upgrade and have a fun project with you son to do a simple upgrade. I'd get an air cooler though. They last longer, my old budget cryorig h7 is going on 9 years across 2 builds.

For ssd, if you still want to be overkill maybe a 1 GB sabrent pci gen4 will save cash and let you utilize the capability on your mobo. Wait until black Friday if you need to add more storage. With another drive. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_3T979EJZ4H84Z5XG3QEB

You also have too much ram. As other said, 16gb is good.

Amazon.com: Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB): Computers & Accessories

If your Mobo supports Gen4, it doesn't get better than this Amazon.com: Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB): Computers & Accessories

yupp, without the heatsink it's 199. 1TB 5GBps reads

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If you just want NVMe with tons of space and read speed is less of a concern, now is a great time to browse but definitely stick to NVMe because AHCI really holds back SSDs since it was designed specifically around spinning disks and their limitations and it's not just read speed/bandwidth. NVMe allows you to take full advantage of an SSD. Even going from a SATA based SSD to an m.2 NVMe based SSD you'll see a difference and be careful because the m.2 format actually has access to SATA so it is, in fact, possible to get a SATA based M.2 SSD and it doesn't cost much more to go NVMe so it's worth it these days.

if you get a PCIe 4.0 mobo i highly recommend getting a M2 drive that is PCIe 4.0.

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=257IAT042CWHZ&dchild=1&keywords=m2+pcie+4.0&qid=1599766851&sprefix=m2+pc%2Caps%2C169&sr=8-3

sooooooooooooooooooo fast!!!

Just keep in mind that only the internal drives can have PS5 games installed. So what you want to do is save up for a compatible m.2 drive to install as the second internal drive.

And I kid you not, save up at least $300. Very large and extremely fast isn’t cheap. But you can use an external USB drive for PS4 games. I threw a 1TB SSD into an enclosure for my PS4 and I’ll carry it over to the 5.

Edit: this is currently the only one that comes close, but it’s still 2GB/s slower than what Mark Cerny suggested as being compatible. Do not buy a drive until Sony confirms what is compatible. Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_hchfFb9C9NX0N

The Sabrent Rocket 4.0 is cheaper and is faster than Samsung. Sabrent are doing quite decent now and this one has a lot of positive reviews. Both are reliable but you can go Samsung if you want, you're just going to be paying a premium for what it offers.

Would change the SSD for this one, only $10 more but significantly better. They may or may not need it, but for such little price difference, then might as well.

I would also change the PSU, since at the $95 price tag, you might as well get a good 850w PSU.

I would highly recommend getting this Sabrent NVME instead. This is PCIe 4.0 and has DRAM. It will be much cheaper if the Maya code can be applied so YMMV. Di ko rin ma-check. Bwiset kasi CS nila. Dati pa ko di makalog-in. Tagal pa mag-reply.

Price w/o code: $79.99

Price w/ code: $64.00 (around ₱3600)

Sorry i thought i attached a hyperlink lol Here

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?crid=2AQ3HLIPWYON1&keywords=sabrent%2Brocket&qid=1669439487&sprefix=sabrent%2B%2Caps%2C1609&sr=8-5&th=1&psc=1

BDO credit cards lang nakalagay eh so baka CC lang.

Yea the sale for new ones is already over. Warehouse sale is still active, but no listings for P31. Just Sabrent rocket gen 4: https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=sr\_1\_6?brr=1&m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&pf\_rd\_i=10158976011&pf\_rd\_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf\_rd\_p=c784a045-06bd-4d93-a57a-dbfb41f85dc2&pf\_...

Great thank you. Is this the correct one? (Sorry I just wanna be sure) Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_XA6K90FPP71TQ0XHHR1M

If getting a MOBO that supports PCI Gen 4 M2 NVME, should OP look into spending an extra 15 bucks to get a Sabrant Rocket to take advantage of it instead of the Samsung Evo?

Sure thing,

Sabrent 1TB Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal SSD Maximum Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB) https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_0TNDZF7M6CCCEQWSQC3J?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1.

I believe it's the model that came after the Sabrent Rocket Q4 and before the Rocket 4 PLUS. Same one I currently use in my PC.

I just bought two of these: Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_Y23HJAEZ81NS8T3B4PK8

Should I cancel and get one of these instead? Seems kind of no brainer but I’m only just now learning about NVMe drives.

I found this is the extra money here good value? Amazon Aus Sabrant Rocket 1TB

Like this one that’s double the speed for 1/3rd less money?

Alright thats fine, I can recommend this which is a PCIE Gen 4 SSD that's 1 Terabyte. It is THE fastest version of SSD right now, and it's on sale right now for 169(nice) which is half price. I definetly reccomend you check it out, as this is a really good deal, and not sure how much longer it will last.

Why the Tomahawk over the TUF?

And I plan on using the NVMe for everything not games, is that the one I should get PCIE 4.0 for? Like a Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2

Considering the 970 evo plus competes with $150 drives, and warranty service in Canada is sketchy at best, ehhh..... The Sabrent Rocket Gen 4 NVMe is the same price and faster.

Oh yeah. For sure grab that Gen4 NVMe SSD.

I assume you're talking about this model.

$160 is the best price you'll get for that kind of performance.

Enjoy your super-speedy drive!

This SSD is Gen4.0 interface and was wondering if there's any downsides to that besides not having a Gen4 motherboard?

Otherwise, wouldn't this be a pretty good deal since the read/write is a lot faster than like Samsung 970?

Thanks for the answer, I haven't bought it yet. I was considering this one:

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Is Sabrent Rocket 4.0 worth it at C$220?

It's been on sale for a while now but I've just recently started looking at pcie 4.0 ssd's and I'm not really sure what good prices are, how often this goes on sale, etc.
(2nd cheapest listing on Amazon is $361, only one historical price point on partpicker for $310, first comment on partpicker says they got it for $150 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ )

Should I wait until Black Friday for a bigger discount and/or other pcie 4.0 ssd's to go on sale (but risk this sale expiring)?

You can’t get a 1TB PCI Express ssd for $100. This one is on sale at $199.99:

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=sabrent+pci+express+1tb&qid=1605183727&sr=8-3

Also the Xbox SSD is $219.

This one is 150

Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabt1_dlC_VslRFb1DNTCNB

Am I missing something or why is the Xbox version 70 usd more?

What website did you visit to open that link? It contains a referral code &tag=gamenetw0c-20 which will give a portion of the sale to the website you were referred by.

After answering, resubmit your post to the subreddit with this link instead:

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07TLYWMYW

Samsung evo 970 is a bit expensive but is not the fastest M.2. Take a look at this one it is same price but has read and write speed of 5000/4500mbps compared to 3000mbps of samsung evo.

Sabrent 1TB Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0... https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07TLYWMYW?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Yeah, it's great at the reasonable price. Also, with the money you save from the mobo add the money you would spend on the SSD and buy this . Buy the cheaper one offer for 200$, it's a great price for the hands down one of the best consumer grade M.2 SSDs.

This is basically identical to a Sabrent Rocket 4, which is $220 with no tax on top. Not that I think either is a fantastic deal but if you're gonna get one, get the Sabrent since it's cheaper.

> theoretical max bandwidth. but doesn't matter if the drive is not pcie4 itself anyway.

It is. Crystal mark shows 2300 read as opposed to the 5000 the reviews on Amazon are getting, so it's underperforming. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07TLYWMYW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

>mSATA is still limited to the sata protocol. you can't use an adaptor to upgrade the interface.

So no dice? I'll have to get a newer motherboard?

Thanks! I couldn't wait for next gen. I'm getting back to my 3d art. If I can suggest a killer m.2 check out the Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme Performance. It's a premium but topped most of the benchmarks.

It would behoove you to invest in a good SSD if you're going to be working with visual production tools.

Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD. Of course you can find something cmpairable but this SSD is at the top in benchmarks.

What's the difference between this and the Sabrent Rocket 4.0 (black/copper design)?

If you mean this one, it’s almost fast enough, but not quite. It’s read speed is rated at 5GBps, and it needs to be at least 5.5. https://smile.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=Sabrent+rocket+4+plus&qid=1602116475&sr=8-2

Not sure if this meets any bandwidth requirements of the ps5, but currently 1TB gen 4 pcie nvme drives can be had for same or less then the proprietary xbox seagate drive ($219). https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW

So yeah, will have faster and cheaper drives for ps5 even in a couple months when there are more demand for them.

I HIGHLY doubt the $150 ones are ps5 compatible. They stated off the shelf NVMe drives need to be compatible with the ssd on board and the off the shelf NVMe drives that come closest to the internal drive speeds are the higher end/newer model ones that are PCIe 4.0 and they’re also around the same price as the Xbox Seagate ones. The get exponentially more expensive the higher capacity they get.

Here’s an example: Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fab_XvdBFb2C1MY76

The new drives that the xbox storage is based on roughly go for the same price. Until the cost to make the drives get cheaper I would expect the price to remain the same.

Here is a link to a similar drive: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fab_Me5AFb4BPKKW8

One of the better m.2 SSD out right now.

This one?

Wow, you compared it to drives "with the same basic architecture" and you're mad that I did the same? Are you okay?

Here is another one that's faster than the expasion or internal drives raw and compressed max speeds:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fab_pzpEFbYTQV7WX

Or just search for PCIe 4 drives on Amazon. I shopped around. Lol. Right, because that's what idiots do? Smart people lay for the most expensive deal they can find🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃.

The Samsung SSD out performs all of them with 7GB/s read speeds. You are making silly excuses, bro.

I cruised reviews on Amazon for this drive and it looks like this particular drive eats shit for a lot of people, like little pieces falling off, etc. I've personally had good luck with the Sabrent 1 TB so far but it's kind of an investment.

>Mark Cerny quoted 5.5gb/s, that's not a buzzword, that's an actual number.

Are you making an argument? I never said otherwise.

>If that's actually true and achievable, then it's massive.

Oh, really? Well have I got some great news for you! They're also utilizing compression to make the effective throughput something like 9GB/s. Did I just bake your noodle?

>Being able to get speeds like that out of an SSD is amazing.

Why is it amazing? It's essentially an array with a dozen controllers. A couple of NVME drives in RAID can match it. Not sure what you think is so groundbreaking about that speed...

>m.2 drives are only able to hit 4gb/s right now.

You're joking, right? That's the very first hit on Amazon for a Gen 4 NVME drive. There are faster, lol.

>The Sabrent 1TB Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal SSD was designed using PCIe 4.0 which allows for speeds of up to 5000 MB/s (read) and 4400 MB/s (write)

2 of these in an array is faster than the Sony drive. 2 gen 3 NVME drives in an array can be faster than the Sony drive. Sony's speed isn't what's so great, it's their I/O controller and how they utilize the SSD. It's not the speed.

>PCs will catch up,

lol. You mean lap? Cuz, like...

>but that will require a lot of manufacturers to work together to cut through those bottlenecks.

Ahh, yes, cut through the bottlenecks.

C'mon, man...

Sorry i was confusing the Sabrent 1TB Rocket 4.0 with the non 4.0. Is not that more expensive (not sold by amazon tought).

Ok, my strategy (as this is a bit hard to understand for me) will be to consider the ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 pro as the best of the "Consumer NVMe", then the SX8200 Pro (hopefully heatsink is not that important). I'll then look at the "Prosumer NVMe" and if i find something for same price or 10-20€ more i'll consider that a better deal. And then i'll check "Consumer NVMe" to see if i find something way cheaper. Do you approve my strategy? :D

Any way to see durability (estimated) as is important for me?

Thanks anyway for your help ;) .

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=pcie+4.0+m.2&qid=1579004987&sprefix=pcie+&sr=8-3

Just search PCIe 4.0 on amazon you’ll get a few results. Again it’ll only benefit you if you’ve got the newest mobo and cpu.

Thanks for the suggestions! Should I take the other user suggestion of also upgrading to this SSD?

M.2 NVME to a NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 like this Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_tCX7DbQQHA3XX

Also is there a reason you picked that motherboard? I don't know that much about motherboards honestly so I would love to hear more about your opinion.

Nvme SSD for Windows 10 OS just buy New Gen4 Nvme SSD 4.0 with speed read 5gb/s or 5000mb/s & Speed write 4gb/s or 4000mb/s

Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB)

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-2TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW

Only $229.99

You obviously don’t have a grasp on technology my dude...

example 1

example 2

I could go on.

Also the Sabrent Rocket 1tb is $145 on amazon

Not really, SSD's aren't cheap especially custom one like these, which are alot smaller than a standard nvme SSD.

See: https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW

Size: https://gamespot1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/1585/15853545/3644166-external.png

Price will come down eventually, but your probably going to need to be wait a year or two.

Seems like an ATL. Not sure if the Sabrent 1TB Rocket Nvme PCIE 4.0 for $220 would be a better deal for only $20 more though? https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07TLYWMYW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Basically, he's saying the "lite" isn't worth it at this price, as its performance makes it akin to a PCIe 3 drive, which are cheaper.

If you want a fast PCIe4 drive, check this one out instead.

How do they compare to the Sabrent Rocket 4.0?

I got this for $150 last month. How does this one compare?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_wCz0FbVRWDCVV?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

wait....what?

from what Ive seen, you have a PCI-E gen 4 M.2 Slot for like a sabrent gen 4 drive.

then, your main GPU x16 slot is 4.0/3.0 as well.

how do you have only 1 for 2 completely different parts?

a slot for this: https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW

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and a slot for this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PPW888Q/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=3080&qid=1607156222&s=electronics&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExMjlFTEFMTkVUWDBHJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzc1MTI3MlMzTk1IQUU4UTZXRSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNTUyOTkyMUlIVTA4V05DNzhZUyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

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two different slots??

1tb is also ATL right now, same seller:

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07TLYWMYW?tag=camelcasearches-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&language=en_CA

https://ca.camelcamelcamel.com/product/B07TLYWMYW

Bought this last month for $150.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabt1_CQPWFbPFT9RXD?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Should I get this instead?

It comes out to about the same price as the 1TB Sabrent Rocket PCIe gen 4 (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07TLYWMYW) once you factor in sales tax since the Sabrent doesn't have sales tax.

The Sabrent seems to benchmark faster: https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-970-Evo-Plus-NVMe-PCIe-M2-1TB-vs-Sabrent-Rocket-4-NVMe-PCIe-M2-1TB/m693540vsm844208

What's the difference between this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TLYWMYW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Could get a cheaper NVME drive. ADATA had a good deal. Check out this new deal from Sabrent.

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW?ref_=Oct_DLandingS_D_7ff90c9a_60&smid=A2ELBRY1PH9SPX

Just curious why you're only using 3200 RAM with 3900x.

Linus. Recommends 3600 CL16.

This is an excellent 3600 CL16 kit

I have 4 sticks of this paired with my 3900x.

EDIT: Also as far as x570 boards go the MSI MAG X570 Tamahawk is the best board at it's price point. Often you can catch it at it's cheaper sell price closer to $220.

MSI MAG X570 review

EDIT: 2 This is also an excellent case Lian Li Lancool II Mesh That is the cheapest I have ever seen it. Built my new system with it and it's by far the best engineered case I have ever owned. This case easily compares to $200 case in it's quality and features. Review

EDIT: 3 Also if this m.2 fits your budget the Sabrent 1tb Rocket Q4 NVMe PCIe 4 is top tier in it's benchmarks.

At this price point isn't Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 a better drive?

So either get a PCIe gen 4 ssd like this one which is far faster and newer than the samsung evo or or or save a few bucks and get this one which is roughly comparable to the evo (slightly faster in some ways, slightly slower in others, both so small of a difference you can't tell).

I own the WD black sn750 myself and it pairs very well with my 3700X.

There is nothing better than Mortar right now available which fits your requirements.

If you want Speed then then get this drive, it has 5000 Mbps reads and 4300 Mbps writes.

Pny 2080 ti Found a cheaper blower style Cooler.

For Cabinet and Power supply get the biggest/largest one you can get cause these two components are supposed to be "investments" they can Last you a decade.

Amazon

Newegg

Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe - $110 instead of WD as Sabrent is faster and has exceptional endurance. Also WD is a dram-less Gen3 drive.

There's no way I should pick this over the sabrent one https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07TLYWMYW/ For $10 more, right? This has no DRAM and is from adata

Yes, lol, this is the one I had https://www.amazon.ca/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW

There are several reviews of unfortunate individuals like myself who ran into a dead after an 8-12 month period on this drive, so it seems pretty common for this one, at least. But after having that one die on me, I don't trust Sabrent and their QC anymore. The RMA with the new expensive shipping prices will run you about $45-60 CAD, at which point you might as well get a new nvme (which is what I did, went with a gen4 WD Drive).

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/WD_BLACK-SN770-Internal-Gaming-Solid/dp/B09QV692XY

They’re both $80

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Based on my experience (yours may vary) I would advise against buying or using Sabrent SSDs to store sensitive information (although their accessories are pretty useful).
I had two SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB (same Rocket series SSD, but with 5500/4400 speeds), and, unfortunately, both of them failed on me.
The first one was bought in October 2020, and after 8 months of use, it failed on me in June.
Signs of failure started to show up on the same day it failed. First, it started with a series of "WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR" BSODs (I suspected it was new RAM causing these BSODs), and then it would not boot into Windows and an SSD would report a capacity of 0.0GB in BIOS
(Blurred out some of my other drives, and the picture is from my second failed Sabrent SSD, which failed 8 months later after I got it as a replacement for my first one in June, so the date is off in BIOS, but the symptoms are exactly the same for the second failed drive)
Next comes the support, and after writing them to ask for a replacement, they told me that I would need to ship them my failed drive for investigation purposes and that I'll get a replacement only after they receive my failed drive.
So, after creating a shipping label through Canada Post for ~$15 (Tracked Packet - USA) to send the drive to this address in Florida (for which I would not get refunded for btw), and waiting a few weeks, I would a confirmation from Canada Post/USPS that my parcel got delivered.
Then, after a day of delivery, I would receive a confirmation that they received my drive, and that they are ready to give me a replacement, although a replacement was not done in your traditional "oh we're gonna send you a replacement ourselves" way.
Instead, a support member told me to buy the same drive from a certain authorized seller (Store4PC), and then asked me to send an invoice from Amazon and an order# to give me a full credit/refund through Amazon.
I was happy with my new drive for a while, but then December came.
Drive failed with exactly the same symptoms as my first one did, and I headed to support right away after this happened.
The procedure was pretty much the same, but since another drive failed under a year, they asked me more questions this time.
So, they asked what motherboard I was using to connect my drive, and they asked me to generate an "Energy Report" through CMD so they can "determine if some settings can be modified." (that's what the support member told me)
So, I sent all of the information they needed, and now they asked me to create a shipping label (once again, never got a refund for creating one) and send them the drive to this address in California.
Again, since it was the same procedure, they received the drive after I sent one to them, but this time they sent the replacement drive themselves through Amazon and asked me to track shipping through SwiShip.
So, I received my replacement third drive in January this year, and since then I never used to store any sensitive data again on it due to experiences with the previous two drives, but it works pretty well as an external game drive on my Series X console.
Basically, that was my experience with Sabrent SSDs over the last two years.

Oui, mais c'est cher, donc bye bye budget.

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• https://www.amazon.fr/Samsung-Internal-Solid-State-MZ-V8P1T0BW/dp/B08GS7748F

Few thoughts. First off.

Go ahead and buy a pcie 4.0 ssd instead, essentially same price and faster. (cheaper with coupon)

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=2311A0J5V6C3V&keywords=nvme+pcie+4.0&qid=1658025541&sprefix=Nvme+pcie+%2Caps%2C188&sr=8-3

Or this https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08KGXVXGM/ref=syn_sd_onsite_mobileweb_173?ie=UTF8&adId=200035205034498&qualifier=1658025549&id=8458757506959985&widget=sd_onsite_mobileweb&spPl=1&psc=1&pd_rd_plhdr=t

Second. Since you are going for a nr200 P I'm assuming you are looking in the 20L size cases.

For this size micro atx is an option and often quite abit cheaper on the motherboard side. Haven't looked to deep into it, but it could be something worth exploring.

Les 3080 que je vois chez LDLC sont à 900€+ et le 5600X est à 225€ chez Amazon. Je ne sais pas ce que vaut le ventirad, c'est une marque dont je n'ai jamais entendu parler. Le SSD est en PCIe 3.0, ce qui est dommage pour une MoBo qui a un port 4.0

C'est un bon deal par contre, cf. ce que j'ai trouvé :

• H510 Flow: ~90€
• 5600X 225€ chez Amazon
• NH-U14S: 70€
• Mobo: 140€
• RAM: 80€-90€
• SSD (1To PCIe 4.0): 140€
• RTX3080: 900€
• RM750x: 125€
• Total: 1775€

Le 5600X risque d'être un poil juste pour la 3080 surtout si tu joues en haute résolution (4k)

this one: https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW?th=1

you basically save $20 and sales tax

would a gen 4 pcie be better than a gen 3? bc I found one that that's like the same but gen 4, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=twister\_B095LF41D5?\_encoding=UTF8&th=1

X570 came out in 2019, B550 came out in 2020, X570S came out in 2021.

The Ryzen 5000 CPUs came out in 2020.

A new 2022 CPU & Motherboard like an i7-12700F on B660 is a much better choice.

The parts you chose aren't bad, they're just the worst values.

Like G Skill Neo RAM was designed for AMD CPUs. You can get DDR4-4000 over 3600, still have RGB, and save $20-$30:
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16820374105

Or for $2 less the Sabrent Rocket 4.0 is 40% faster (5,000 vs 3,500 megabytes per second) and has 3x the longevity (1800 vs 600TBW):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW

A board like the B550-F STRIX would have all the main features of that board, the same VRMs, and even adds things like Thunderbolt/USB 4 headers.

The 4000X has limited airflow because of the black front. Something like a 4000D airflow is much better. A 3-5 pack of ARGB fans on Amazon is quite cheap.

If you don't need the heat sink, you can get it ~$45 cheaper from Amazon

Ooh good points, learning something new.

What do you think of this Z690 mobo?

Check this out on @Newegg: ASRock Z690 PG Riptide LGA 1700 Intel Z690 SATA 6Gb/s DDR4 ATX Intel Motherboard https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162031?Item=N82E16813162031&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-13-162-031-_-12112021

Idk if OP needs the extra stuff but you are right the Z590 is $20 less.

Also, this is a pcie gen 4 ssd that is $10 more expensive than your gen 3 ssd. Sure it is 2000 slower than the sn850 but it is still no slouch. There are cheaper gen 4 drives if you search.

Limited-time deal: Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apan_glt_fabc_dl_42XKS7W0MCW0N63TX8QH

And interesting to hear about the benefit for modding. I have some research to do because that's a first for me. Big thanks for sharing that

The NVMe 4.0 Gen4 version is also on sale for $110.48

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW/

Deal link: Amazon

I used this drive in this enclosure to get this speed (on an Intel MBP, but you should get something around this).

thank you, would this be correct?

Sabrent 1TB Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal SSD Maximum Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_3KCANNWDC8Q2XA6EGXG6

Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB).

One NVMe is temp 1 and one NVMe is temp 2, both gen 4. I was surprised at how fast it was coming from swar. I use 16 threads and default everything else. Here is my time.

Stay away from overpriced Samsung’s buy PCIE 4.0 NVME if your board supports it.

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW/

Keep in mind these are Canadian prices, and the storage expansion is $300 in Canada.....

$159.99 https://www.newegg.ca/samsung-970-evo-1tb/p/N82E16820147691

$219.99 https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glc_i_XSPEQ08Y8XW35XJQCDDX

$164.99 https://www.newegg.ca/western-digital-500gb-black-sn850-nvme/p/N82E16820250162

What about this Sabrent Rocket SSD? https://www.amazon.fr/Sabrent-interne-Rocket-performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=b2b_gw_d_simh_1?pd_rd_w=LlvvN&pf_rd_p=f11c7316-e72e-4053-9d51-1ee251f78834&pf_rd_r=QSP339SXSBTEE9FHZK8Z&pd_rd_r=24d30fa1-4fe2-42e9-a8e2-fe6805a36084&pd_rd_wg=SYVFG&pd_rd_i=B07TLYWMYW&psc=1

For 40 bucks less would you recommend it over the Samsung 980 Pro ?

No it's this one I believe. Still a good deal imo. I may buy one from him/her.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_A9A7CN3XB3R4ETRN4J5E

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Thanks so much for your help, I really appreciate the in-depth explanation!

I think the model I was looking at (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW) is slightly different to the Rocket Nano in that it is just the nvme itself and requires an enclosure as it doesn't have the built in controller like the Nano, so I should be able to use a thunderbolt controller hopefully.

I think I might just bite the bullet on it. It's only a matter of time before my fusion drive craps out, and even if if doesn't work out as boot drive I'll still have a solid future-proofed SSD for backups.

Ah cool, looks like I have a faster model 😜 now I definitely should swap huh? Cheers

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW

Thats a gen 3 m.2, you'd want something like this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sabrent-Internal-Maximum-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=sr_1_2?crid=I96TPV638I0A&dchild=1&keywords=gen+4+m.2&qid=1608732952&s=computers&sprefix=gen+4+%2Ccomputers%2C163&sr=1-2

Do check motherboard compatibility on the D15, as you might need the D15S to fit with the GPU And here's a decent PCIe 4 ssd https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW for $170

And... order cancelled. Thanks for looking out for folks. Ordered https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ instead.

Was able to get this gen4 last. Month for $150.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_Gco2FbKRX6J5R?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Get this instead?

About the same price as the Sabrent one: https://www.amazon.ca/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW

Anybody knows how they compare?

Those are all PCIe gen 3 look at gen 4 PCIe:

170$ US

184$

180$

And these are all on sale

The price for the Xbox nvme is on par maybe slightly higher

And like others have said form factor is also an issue

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what are the chances that <strong>Sabrent 1TB Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0</strong> price will be even lower?

Has it ever been lower?

I would look at shops with an online presence like PCHub and Dynaquest so you can confirm availability first and reserve before picking up the items.

10900k and Maximus XII Extreme

They are sold here but they don't keep much stock so you'll probably have to pre-order.

RTX 3090

PCHub and Lazada might have some available if you are not picky about brands.

Corsair Obsidian 1000D

I don't think 1000Ds are available here. Are you planning for a dual system or a custom loop with multiple radiators in the future? A 1000D will look empty with a single system with standard cooling. You might be better off with a cheaper (but still high end) case like a Phanteks Enthoo 714, which has good support for both dual system and custom loops.

EVGA SuperNova 1000 G5

I haven't seen an high-end EVGA PSUs (or parts in general) here but there are plenty of alternatives for the PSU like Seasonic Prime PSUs and Corsair RMx/RMi/HX/AXi PSUs.

Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1TB

I don't think you'll find that SSD here, you'll probably have to get it from Amazon. A bit of a warning though, you'll have to get an OMB permit to import any kind of storage media from overseas, the permit is cheap but the hassle of getting one might not be worth it for you.

Also take note that a 10900k/z490 combination won't get you full NVMe Gen 4 speeds.

G.Skill 64GB Trident Z DDR4-3200 RGB (16x4)

x4 kits here are pretty rare. The good news is you won't need an x4 kit since the 10900k can only support dual channel, you can just buy two identical x2 kits instead.

Alienware

I don't think Alienware has much of a presence here.

For the monitor there are a lot of alternatives from Gigabyte (Aorus), Asus and Acer. The model you are looking at also only supports up to 1080p which is a bit of a mismatch for an RTX 3090. Unless 240hz is very important to you, I would instead look at GSync compatible 144-165hz 1440p IPS monitors.

For the headset, I'm not really familiar with gaming headsets so can't really give any alternatives for this.

1TB link: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TLYWMYW?pf_rd_r=1ZC7AHX26Y5ZC1ACPT3B&amp;pf_rd_p=edaba0ee-c2fe-4124-9f5d-b31d6b1bfbee&amp;th=1

FYI that deal I just mentioned is back.

1TB

2TB

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threads:

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https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/js4ceq/sabrent_1tb_rocket_nvme_40_gen4_19999_5000_14999/

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https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/js4oq8/ssd_up_to_25_off_on_sabrent_internal_solid_state/

1 tb version looks more appealing

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07TLYWMYW/?pldnSite=1&amp;th=1

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> GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE - £163

Amazing case to build in.

Lian Li LANCOOL II Mesh RGB Case

Best x570

MSI Mag X570 Tomahawk

Best M.2 NVMe 4.0 Gen4 in benchmarks and is on sale for $149.99

Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD

Great CL16 kit for the 3900x

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB CL16

Better PSU

Corsair RMX Series, RM750x - 10 year warranty

Deal link: Amazon

If you want a high speed gen4 nvme ssd. Check this one it is normally on sale for 220$ if it fits within your budget.

Sabrent 1TB Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0... https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07TLYWMYW?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

The Sabrent Rocket is still a better deal on Amazon right now and is the best (most affordable) PCIEx4 NVME:

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW?th=1

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Try this since you have pcie 4.0 compliant motherboard.

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW

I got the Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2. Top in benchmarks. It's a bit of a premium price but my OS and apps are fast to load.

Thats going for 200 usd I think. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_7uIHFb1NWVGWR

Hey great build and thank you so much. Would I be better getting the non-QLC ssd (https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07TLYWMYW?tag=pcp0f-20&amp;linkCode=ogi&amp;th=1)?

I am really inexperienced with building when it comes to airflow, but I prefer the 360mm rad suggestion.

Got this one for £127 today with amazon prime

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_vrIHFbN4YC0B8

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What's your opinion on this one?

Still mega expensive, waiting for this to be like half that price.

Edit: Haha damn, I don't even think this one is fast enough after looking at the read write. Might only be that Samsung one that's fast enough. I'm pretty sure Cerny said 7GB/s. Samsung claims 6.9 and that Sabrent one claims 5.0.

Yep, should be something like this one

https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW

What basic architecture? The Sabrent drive is PCIe 4.0, it's an m.2 NVME drive? What basic architecture are you fucking talking about?

This drive: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fab_pzpEFbYTQV7WX

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_btf_t1_OuaEFbRQVYHKJ

^thats my hard drive highly recommended if your system can support it

Sabrent Rocket is about the same price right now (on sale) for some more performance.

There is so much wrong with OP post. So, here we go.

The simplicity argument isn't much of an argument nowadays anymore. You update apps, you update games, you update dashboard, you update controllers. Things crash, games are buggy, console decides to start to update while you are in the middle of the game (I'm looking at you FH4). You can't just put your disc/cartridge in the console and start playing.

Xbox achievements was a good argument in the past. Not anymore, since most of the Game Pass games have achievements as well. MS own products had them even before Game Pass. Steam also has achievements and so does Uplay and Origin.

Having too many launchers on PC is one annoying thing, but there is GOG Galaxy that lets you launch all games from one launcher (but you need to have other launchers installed). In the end, you can just double click on a game's shortcut icon and the game will open (it automatically opens the needed launcher, you don't have to do anything else).

HDR support sucks on PC, but ironically MS is the one to blame here. It's a Windows issue. It's the only argument that is correct.

Cheaters are on every platform. Yes, there are more of them on PC. This is something game developers should take more seriously to fight against it (and make better games, where there isn't so much loopholes).

>1/5 or 1/4 times I buy a triple A game on pc, it will have serious or game breaking issues. Most pc exclusive games that are worth playing could be played on a laptop and don’t require any legit power

That's a load of bollocks and OP knows it.

PC gaming is cheaper, if you want the similar experience to consoles. You buy the hardware that costs around the console price and then you start buying games, which are cheaper... waaaaaay cheaper, especially, if don't want them on day one and there are way more games on PC. You don't have any backward compatibility issues, because you can play a game from 1982 or from 2020. On consoles you pay for the console, you pay for the TV/monitor (which people always exclude when they talk about cost of console gaming), you pay for games, you pay monthly fees for the ability to play online and also Game Pass (which is totally worth the money, but it's also on PC - gg Phil and MS).

There is a difference between 4k and 4k. I'm sure that the graphically more demanding games on Series X won't be using high or ultra settings to be able to run . So, to be able to run 4k on medium or lower settings, doesn't require a 800€ graphics card. Plus, you can buy cheap used PC parts, that significantly reduce the cost of your hardware. I really would like to see that calculation how OP came up with this $1500, especially considering the fact that we haven't even seen yet actual gameplay videos on Series X, that can be analyzed and then compared to gameplay on PC.

Why I think OP is not actually a PC gamer and this post is just made to shit on PC gaming (for whatever reason)? Because nobody would say things like "Most pc exclusive games that are worth playing could be played on a laptop and don’t require any legit power" and "the SSD speeds on the new Xbox X are legitimately faster in games than ANY SSD money can buy for a PC". Almost all OP's arguments can be proven wrong. First link from google to prove that statement about SSDs wrong: https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW

Why I play on consoles? Because of exclusives. That's the only reason. Oh and Switch has a portability feature. Otherwise I could play everything on PC.

The Scythe Fuma 2 is just straight up superior in cooling and noise, at the same price point. There are certainly better coolers, but those are typically $80-100.

The Meshify C has been surpassed in cooling performance and ease of use by now.
Here are the four best cases at what should be a $100 price point, when in adequate stock. The LanCool II Mesh is generally considered the best of those. The LanCool 215 may end up quite good itself; I'd just like to see more reviews of course.

For RAM, I might step up to 3600mHz, with a CAS latency of 18, as it's often not far off in price. If you don't mind spending more, you could always find something with an even lower CAS latency.

You may want a NVMe SSD on the PCIe 4.0 spec in order to take advantage of the increased throughput your motherboard allows. This is an example, although more are releasing imminently.

Your PSU selection is good, but you can potentially find something as performant, but for cheaper, from the selection of A tier PSUs contained here.

Finally, I hope you're waiting for the next generation of AMD CPUs before building, as the announcement is but 2 weeks away, and I can't imagine a release date being all that distant in the future.

Gen 4 high speed ones are not.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_nGKBFb89MQR3F

Wait! This is a good answer for saving money, BUT the Sabrent Rocket Q is an M.2 SSD that uses PCIe 3.0. The motherboard and cpu that OP posted is capable of using M.2 SSD's that use PCIe 4.0.

A Sabrent drive like this would be significantly faster, but pricier.

then this will blow your mind. https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW

Now add in $60 a year for the paid online subscription services on console which over 7 years comes out to $420 extra on top of the list price. So if a new console is $500, at the end of the lifespan, you would have spent $920.

Let's add in the SSD upgrades. I doubt many console gamers will be content with the paltry 800gb a PS5 has. Seeing how games are only getting bigger (Warzone anyone?), they are pretty much gonna be forced to upgrade their SSD. Now if they wanna take full advantage of those PCIe Gen4 speeds, the price of a 1tb drive is $200+ and the price of a 2tb drive is gonna be $400+.

So you have essentially spent over $1000 right there the same price of the PC you could've built. Also, I doubt any SATA based SSD will be a bottleneck in PC gaming next gen. Seriously. They might not load textures or files as fast as PCIe Gen 4, but it won't hinder game performance to a noticeable level. Also I am willing to bet only first party games will take full advantage of the PCIe Gen 4 drives in the consoles since third party games will still need to cater to the lowest common denominator and that is your guy gaming on a HDD on PC.

A lot of people already have capable systems that are built including their CPU's, mobo's, PSU's and storage. To them, just upgrading their graphics card will provide a better value than spending money on a console just to play a small handful of exclusives.

Also with the news of Sony considering bringing more games to PC, you are having less reasons to buy a console if you already have a capable gaming PC.

It’s not true, what a tool the seller is.

Here’s just one that is faster https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_iw5sFb5T5PN43

Man here you are talking about price. I am curious, are console gamers really ready being willing to spend money on a SSD upgrade for the PS5? Because you are getting what...760gb with it that's gonna be usable (because you never get the full amount advertised with hard drives)? That thing is gonna fill up quick with a couple of games installed. Are you guys really ready to drop $200+ on a 1tb PCIe Gen 4 SSD or $400+ on a 2tb one? Because that's how much they cost and that's what you will need to take full advantage of the console.

People always bring up price to performance ratio with consoles but if you are gonna be spending $500 on a PS5 and then another $200 on a 1tb SSD upgrade (which let's be real here, next gen even 1tb won't be enough), does that argument still hold up?

Was thinking of this cooler for the cpu. https://www.primeabgb.com/online-price-reviews-india/noctua-nh-d15-sso2-d-type-premium-cpu-cooler/

Also I'm completely clueless about the selection of RAM and cases, anyone has any good links I could go through?

Edit:- Switching the GPU to this one

https://www.theitdepot.com/details-PNY+GeForce+RTX+2080+Ti+Blower+Design+11GB+GDDR6+(VCG2080T11BLMPB)_C45P32147.html

Motherboard to this one ( 4.0 PCI.e for the ssd)

https://www.primeabgb.com/online-price-reviews-india/asus-rog-strix-b550-e-gaming-amd-b550-motherboard/

SSD

https://www.amazon.in/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=asc_df_B07TLYWMYW/?tag=googleshopdes-21&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=396988030452&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=9843293119408418637&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9061651&amp;hvtargid=pla-783416127304&amp;psc=1&amp;ext_vrnc=hi

Distro: Arch Linux

Kernel: 5.7.7-zen1-1--zen

Specs of interest: 4K 16:10 Screen, NVIDIA RTX 2060, Intel i7-10875H

No audio and S3 Deep Sleep

Straight off the bat, perhaps the two most important issues when running linux on the XPS 17 is the audio driver and S3 deep sleep issue. From what I've seen, no matter the distro, audio will not work out of the box for the XPS 17 and deep sleep requires bios and kernel parameter configuration to get it (somewhat) working. I found these two threads explaining how to get audio and S3 deep sleep working:

- xps 17 9700 working audio on linux

- how to enable s3 deep sleep on xps 17 9700

The audio fix has worked fine for me, however, I've noticed some pulseaudio issues related to microphone detection. Plugging headphones in via the jack will not automatically enable them to play audio. Also, the volume using this method doesn't seem to be as loud as on Windows. I often have to go above the 100% limit in pavucontrol to get a reasonably loud experience.

The S3 deep sleep fix has partially worked for me, but I encountered a few problems with it. My device cannot wake from S3 sleep if it is turned on without being connected to a power source, whereas, it can wake fine if I turn the device on whilst plugged in/charging - even if it's unplugged after having booted up. I also had a problem where it couldn't wake due to my NVIDIA GPU. I discussed a solution to this in the original thread which involved enabling some NVIDIA power management services that assist waking from sleep.

Upgrading the SSD and RAM

I cracked open my XPS 17 and decided to put an additional SSD in it (Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVME 4.0 SSD), along with 32 gigs of 2988mhz Kingston HyperX Impact SODIMM RAM. The RAM installation was mostly fine, it failed to detect it at first but I didn't quite press the ram into the slot hard enough.

The SSD was a bit more annoying than expected. Turns out that the SSD I bought could only be recognized by the BIOS (and OS) when the SATA mode was set to RAID. Setting it to AHCI would only show the first SSD in my laptop. After hours of messing around, I found out that the solution was to swap the two SSD's around: the sabrent is now in M.2 drive bay 1 and the factory SSD in drive bay 2. My guess for this is that drive bay 2 is not NVMe 4.0 compatible. Anyway, after doing this both SSDs are now recognised in AHCI mode.

HiDPI

I'm using BSPWM as my window manager so HiDPI support doesn't work out of the box. I added the following exports to my .xprofile:

>export GDK_SCALE=2
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>export GDK_DPI_SCALE=0.5
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>export QT_SCALE_FACTOR=1
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>export QT_DEVICE_PIXEL_RATIO=1

And I am using the following in .Xresources

>Xcursor.size: 34
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>Xft.dpi: 144
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>Xft.antialias: true
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>Xft.rgba: rgb
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>Xft.hinting: true
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>Xft.hintstyle: hintfull

NVIDIA

Firstly, I'm using the Arch Linux Zen Kernel as it includes the f-sync patches (improves gaming performance) along with many other improvements on the base kernel. I installed nvidia-beta-dkms nvidia-utils-beta lib32-nvidia-utils-beta nvidia-prime using yay.

if you're on a rolling release kernel then you probably don't need the dkms packages. If you want something more stable, you may also not want to use the nvidia beta drivers.

I've had a really good experience with this so far. I followed the steps here but noted that the modesetting driver which is to be added into /etc/x11/xorg.conf described in the wiki post prevents the intel backlight from working with xbacklight and would interfere with waking from S3 deep sleep as a result. Leaving the modesetting iGPU device section out of my xorg.conf fixed this problem.

Once prime render offload was setup, I tested it using prime-run glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"which should output something like OpenGL renderer string: GeForce RTX 2060 with Max-Q Design/PCIe/SSE2

Note: prior to trying PRIME, I did try bumblebee and bbswitch - both of which lead to a very laggy and optimized gaming experience. I strongly recommend either disabling your discrete GPU if you don't plan on using it, or using nvidia prime render offloading.

Gaming

After configuring my GPU (explained above), I downloaded steam and enabled the HiDPI setting that allows for ui/text to be scaled up based on your resolution. I also downloaded the latest stable build of the GloriousEggroll Proton Binary from the AUR.

Before running a game, I make sure to add prime-run %command% to the game's Launch Options, otherwise it will try to run with the integrated intel GPU. If you don't want to do this for every game, you can simply launch steam using prime-run steam

Gaming on this device is really good. I get 60fps on most games at max settings on a 1080p resolution. I can play GTA 5 at 4K resolution on quite high settings, averaging 40-50 fps. Your experience will vary from game to game due to the experimental nature of proton. Obviously this laptop isn't a gaming laptop, but i'm quite impressed with how well it runs games, especially on linux.

Battery Life

Out of the box, battery life wasn't great... but after installing TLP and Powertop, it's definitely improved! I get roughly 4-5 hours on medium brightness under medium load (browsing, coding). I got a battery boost after properly configuring nvidia prime, I believe my dGPU was using a lot of power prior to doing so. According to powertop, the 4k monitor consumes the most battery, especially at full brightness. Luckily, the screen is so bright that I can get away with 50% brightness (or less) on most days.

If not using S3 deep sleep (s2idle), battery life will drain a lot when sleeping (maybe around 5% per hour?) so it's really worth while to get deep sleep working.

Finger Print ReaderManaged to get the XPS 17 fingerprint reader working by following the guide for the XPS 13 (9300) here . It requires a custom fork of `libfprint` here. Since the driver has PAM integration, It works well with lightdm, i3lock, etc...

IR CameraWorks very well with howdy. As mentioned in the wiki for the XPS 13 (9300) , you need to edit the configuration file at: /lib/security/howdy/config.ini and add the following line: device_path = /dev/video2

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Where are you seeing that? The cheapest I can find is Amazon and it's $200

You didnt read my post ... For 100 MORE, they can make those drives bigger... For example if they spend 100 for 500gb then you add another 100 then its 1tb. It is easy to find on amazon. And to be clear, youre not gonna get these top of the line drives youre thinking about.

Also, if you dont understand raw file size and think compression solves everything, then we dont need to continue this conversation. Because clearly you need to do more research. As i stated before, games are not getting smaller. Physical media sizes at practical prices is the limitation they run into, which is why there is such a large push for digital. Microsoft stores dont even carry media discs anymore simply because of cost and savings of making things digital, not to mention less pollution for the environment. If a game is 180gb, it will always be 180gb...and what youre describing still has nothing to do with compression, youre only explaining how duplicate asset linking works. The same technology is used in exchange servers when you send an email to a distro list. There's one copy of the message on the server and everyone can access it and download their own copy, but as far as the exchange server is concerned, there is only need to keep one copy. The dedicated hardware youre talking about are coprocessors. And youre wrong, the cpu and gpu still do work to process the gamefiles/graphics. That's their job.

The fact that you assume im a ps player invalidates your credibility since you resort to "insults". You have absolutely no idea what systems or platforms i play.

Attacking the person = you have no real argument.

And for your education, as i stated, for 100 more, they could upgrade those drives. In fact i was wrong, for less than 100 more they could have upgraded to 1tb from the 500gb one. And again, microsoft is getting a deal on these drives because theyre buying in bulk. They're getting it at lower prices than we pay for since they're buying tens of thousands vs us who buy one or two.

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>Which vendor do you use to buy these parts?

I have bought stuff from primeabgb, mdcomputers and vedant Computers. I'm in contact rep of PCstudio. TheItdepot is one the oldest online PC market place so it's trustable.

>Regarding the SSD, it was almost 20k yesterday. Not sure why its showing 40k today. Amazon listing issue probably.

Better alternative would be a PCIe Gen4 SSD at this price point.particularly this one.

Yep that all makes sense. Yeah 8 core vs 10 core is basically multithreadedness, and how much the CPU can divide up the work. Because each core has 2 threads, and threads handle actual program tasks, the 8 core will have 16 threads and the 10 core will have 20. So if you render a video, the CPU can divide the work between 16 or 20 different "people" working on it. So the 20 thread one would be a bit faster to finish the video. However, 8 core/16 thread is really really good in terms of multithreadedness, so Intel is still good in that regard. You are paying slightly more per-core though if you go Intel, because 8 core intel is over $300, and 8 core AMD is under $300. I personally am suggesting Intel because AMD motherboards are very hard to find right now, limited stock everywhere I check.

1. CPU and Motherboard are 100% dependent, if you go with an AMD CPU you need a different motherboard. For AMD the best CPUs for you would be 3700x, 3800x, 3900x, or 3950x. Just depends on how many cores you want, and yeah "multithreadedness". Single thread, and in games, they will have roughly the same. All of them are elite processors and will crush day-to-day tasks, so a 3700x or 3800x might be good to save some money.
2. The only required swap would be that you need to swap the motherboard to something with either "x570" or "b550" in the name, if you buy any Ryzen 3000 series processor. Any of them will work. I would go for a b550 personally because it literally just launched, like this one: https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-edge-wifi/p/N82E16813144324?&amp;quicklink=true. I personally like Asus boards, like one of the Strix or Prime boards, like this one: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1567232-REG/asus_rog_strix_b550_f_gaming_wi_fi_republic_of_gamers_strix.html. Around $180-230 price point is probably what you want to be targetting. Make sure you look for "b550" specifically and not "b450" if you search it. If you want wifi I would make sure to pick a motherboard with wifi in the name. Looks like a lot of these motherboards are sold out, AMD is very popular right now.
3. The rest of the parts would work the same but I might consider a Gen 4 SSD because it only works on AMD processors atm. Basically, its a cutting-edge tech that only AMD supports. Search "Gen 4 SSD on Amazon" and you can find a couple, they would replace the SN750 SSD in my parts list. This is optional but I would make this swap if you go with an AMD 3000 series. Here's an example: https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW/. If you go with a b550 motherboard, only one of the SSD slots has this "ultra fast, gen 4 compatibility", so just make sure you put it in the right slot if you go with one of these drives. The motherboard manual will tell you where.
4. Technically you don't need the liquid cooler if you go this route because the AMD CPU comes with a better cooler, so if you want to save some money and don't care about aesthetics thats a good chance to save.

Final note, for reference, 4 core / 8 thread is what most people consider "entry level" for a basic good PC. 6 core / 12 thread is the next step up, and typically games only use around 6 cores, at least right now. So a lot of people buy 6 core processors such as the AMD 3600. 8 core / 16 thread is for very good processors, and even though games might not use all 8 / 16 right now, maybe they will in the future because PS5 and Xbox Series X use 8 / 16. Anything beyond that is considered super premium.

Sorry i was confusing the Sabrent 1TB Rocket 4.0 with the non 4.0. Is not that more expensive (not sold by amazon thought).

After looking for all "Prosumer NVMe" and then all "Consumer NVMe", i've only found the Pioneer APS-SE20G for 165€ but as durability is one of my main concerns the extra 26,5€ for the The SX8200 Pro, are worthy, right?

Any way to know durability? I tend to use PCs for as much as i can.

Thanks anyway for your help ;) .

its 167 now :/ , if u still want the link tho, here it is https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW?tag=pcpapi-20&amp;linkCode=ogi&amp;th=1&amp;psc=1

LMAO! Am I glad that your indulging me =P

A couple notes about the build that I would correct before moving ahead.

• The define R6 is a newer version of the same case
• unraid likes to have two boot drives in raid 1 for security and reliability. it might be worth getting 2 250gb sata ssds for windows and your apps. You could then use the m2 slot for an nvme drive, used as a scratch disk for super fast storage to edit off. If you're interested, theres a deal on an nvme 4.0 drive for black friday. There are however cheaper albeit a little slower (down from 4.5gb/s to 3gb/s) options out there. also you can throw another sata ssd in there as a cache for your nas.
• You could get away with using the motherboard's remaining sata ports for mass storage for your nas, but you have only 8. If two go towards your boot drives you'll have only 6 for your nas. Its nice because unraid does give you this luxury, and you should be able to add a sata controller when that time comes. Your case can handle a lot.
• The 2060 super should be more than enough to handle 8k footage (according to a video i saw on linus tech tips). So I do not think 2 4k monitors should be a problem.

What monitor are you going to be using?

Also check out the sabrent rocket 4.0 it's a little cheaper and a little faster.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_1yO4Db3FKXY0A

Thanks for replying this M.2 is getting great speeds from numerous people on Ryzen. My question is, does it apply on z390 boards too?

Yeah, like this: https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW

>Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme Performance Solid State Drive

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Maximum-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sabrent-Internal-Maximum-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&amp;keywords=sabrent+rocket+1tb&amp;qid=1607731798&amp;s=computers&amp;sr=1-3
its currently for 160 on amazon? not sure why the bot says lowest price is 190 when i also bought it for 170 months ago

I purchased this: https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW

I intend to game. Did I mess up? I was under the impression that Gen 4 was unnecessary, but it would ultimately have better performance than Gen 3. Now I'm hearing different.

Are these better than what I got?

That motherboard supports a NVME gen4 drive! Putting that 2.5" SATA drive into it is like putting 87 octane into your new Ferrari! I would swap out for this amazing drive (WELL worth the cost difference.) Your load times will thank you.

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&amp;keywords=gen+4+nvme&amp;qid=1625615032&amp;sr=8-4

Buy new gen4 nvme ssd 4.0 pcie 4.0 they have speed read write 5000mb/s & 4500mb/s

like this

Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB)

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW

Price Only $229.99