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I actually don't know what the difference is.
IF you are looking for 16 TB -
€253($270)
Link is not affiliated. Still a good price.
If you're willing to add 16 bucks more (365.99$) for additional 2TB, then the 16TB EXOS on Amazon (ST16000NM001G) could be a better deal since it's still on sale.
I have looked at drives for a long time - anyone have a cheat sheet I can use? I'm looking for best price/tb now.
Is this a good value? It's 16TB for $289 with "questionable" OEM warranty. I guess I'm ok with warranty if price is good ?
[Amazon](Seagate 16TB HDD Exos X16 7200 RPM 512e/4Kn SATA 6Gb/s 256MB Cache 3.5-Inch Enterprise Hard Drive (ST16000NM001G) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SPFPKF4/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_YWTT3PTEZ33T5940BFZT)
Reports here on Reddit they are on the loud side. That's not a factor for me since it will be going in an enclosure in a closet.
I really want to try shucking, but I don't want to risk damaging the drive or getting some low-quality drive. I'm just running at a constant 99% capacity and this will give me a ton of breathing room. I'm going to probably buy one every couple weeks.
He's not suggesting casual users go and store the chain. Buying 85TBs a year is more than reasonable for businesses/entities that rely on Ethereum.
Where I'm based, a [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-ST16000NM001G-EXOS-X16-Internal/dp/B07SPFPKF4/](16GB Seagate HDD) can be bought for £268.47. So to store the chain, you'd need 6 of these HDDs, costing £1610.82 (at inflated UK retail prices btw). Really not that bad for any entity with decent revenues.
Whatever, the truth is out there and it's getting cheaper
How much do you have per drive as a budget?
Not sure the difference between x18 and x16, but this has been steady at $400 for a while: https://www.amazon.ca/Seagate-256MB-3-5-Inch-Enterprise-ST16000NM001G/dp/B07SPFPKF4/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?crid=2N4YMQ2VYEWSE&keywords=16tb&qid=1642890739&sprefix=16tb%2Caps%2C133&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&smid=AEDYXTHYD8DT7&spLa...
That's the new hard drive I put in. To be honest , I need to test copying files from my nvme drive. The files I copying where from an external hard drive to the server. That could be it too?
The external harddrive is having a lot of reallocated counts, it's dying.
Thank you, I'll try copying from the nvme drive directly to the server to rule out hard drive bottleneck, but it shouldn't be an issue with the Seagate exos , rather the external
Well, good news for you because the Seagate 16TB X16 bare hard drives are on Amazon now for $320 a drive which is currently $10 cheaper than the Easystores of a similar capacity.
I'm using Seagate Exos x16 16TB drives. Thought I had read they were CMR drives, but now I'm not sure.
This is the second drive in this slot. The first one was throwing zpool errors and showing faulted even though SMART showed no problems. Cable issue maybe?
Just looking for some new drives, need to be at least 16TB each, came across these, price cant be right can it?
Much cheaper than Ironwolf Pros (which I currently have)
I'm suspicious but appear to be seagate themselves?
>Sadly, anything you buy new "Today" over 2TB won't work.
Not exactly -- you just need to search for the right type of drive. Just look for 512e, 4Kn, or Advanced Format drives (these do not all mean the same thing, but the end result is the same -- being able to use MBR for sizes larger than 2TB. Even Amazon sells them, like this 16TB one. Based on my very brief search, they tend to be enterprise drives, so pricing may be a big deterrent.
I don't like the aspect of having to run a redundancy disk just to avoid loss, it's always been my main issue with not building a RAID myself. I've wanted to put together a nice lil home NAS but I just have a hard time trying to justify it, because I want to make a high capacity setup, and to get that 48TB, it's not very easy justifying a 4th 16TB drive that's only there to make sure the other 3 don't lose anything. That's a VERY expensive redundant drive.
The fact that this is child porn is horrendous.
I can't even fathom having 58tb of porn.
Like, I've got a pair of 2tb drives. This dude had the equivalent of 29 2tb drives.
Looking at some high capacity drives on amazon, the cheapest I see (per tb) is a 16 tb drive for $322.12.
This -mother- kiddie fucker spent a minimum of $1288.48 plus tax just to store his child porn.
Looks like Amazon.ca has 16tb (enterprise) for $458. 5 year warranty also
Seagate 16TB HDD Exos X16 7200 RPM 512e/4Kn SATA 6Gb/s 256MB Cache 3.5-Inch Enterprise Hard Drive (ST16000NM001G) https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07SPFPKF4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_H508CQ8VAN8C7GX5Z226
i would not buy a new HDD from a 3rd party seller; you may have warranty issues. (I also don't trust a 3rd party seller when it comes to HDD).
Also, and not to screw with your head, Seagate EXOS are Data Center grade HDD and well respected.
EXOS (sata) 16TB x16 at $319 is a great price
I have no clue what your storage needs for the next 5yrs will be.
IF you are thinking you might do 10GB network; consider the DS1621+ 6bay which has a NIC slot. It's also better made unit and has ECC RAM.
I checked it out and find really good prices. But since I live in Europe I have to pay import tax off 100 USD for a 16TB that cost about 390 USD on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SPFPKF4
And with that I am at the same price range as of I buy it locally.
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Hello tout le monde,
J'aimerais acheter cette grosse bête de 16 To de Seagate : https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B07SPFPKF4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1YIU65QLE19VQ&psc=1
Le problème est que je ne sais pas où l'acheter, pour plusieurs raisons :
Je vois marqué à certains endroits que les DD de Seagate sont sous garantie 5 ans, mais le dernier que j'ai acheté sur amazon, quand j'ai appelé le support Seagate, on m'a dit que le numéro de série du disque n'était pas valide pour une garantie (que c'était des disques envoyés pour tests aux entreprises, et revendus sur le net ensuite). On m'avait alors conseillé, pour le prochain, d'acheter un disque dont le vendeur est amazon ou Seagate lui-même. Mais je ne trouve ni l'un ni l'autre pour ce modèle-ci... Vous connaissez un site où cela (de bons numéros de séries) serait garanti ?
On m'a dit que, pour les disque durs, le mode d'envoi était très important (pour empêcher d'endommager le disque durant le transport). Mais là encore, je ne sais pas quel site est réputé pour envoyer ça de la bonne façon. Des tuyaux ?
De manière générale, si vous connaissez des sites fiables pour acheter ce disque dur (ou un autre) pour ces raisons ou pour d'autres, ça m'intéresse !
In all kindness and concern for you, if you do not understand the statement “these are NOT SSDs”, then it might be safest for you to NOT spend money on a technology-focused gamble like this.
If you are not able to search for “16 TB exos” to find the spinning hard disk we are talking about, then it might be safest for you to NOT spend money on a technology-focused gamble like this.
Seagate 16TB HDD Exos X16 7200 RPM 512e/4Kn SATA 6Gb/s 256MB Cache 3.5-Inch Enterprise Hard Drive (ST16000NM001G) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SPFPKF4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_JYZ51HZTB9XHWFVZH0K1
Literally the top link when you search for "exos 16 tb"
324.90
I mean, it's cheaper yes, but it's not massively cheaper. Amazon have the same drive (and have done for at least the last 9 months) at $339 with free delivery if you have Prime.
Source: Bought 10 of them for my NAS :)
Not so much these days. When SSDs first came out, there were a lot of controller failures across models and manufacturers. That was years ago, when 32GB to 480GB SSDs were considered the hotness. Manufacturers have since gotten things under control. If you want speed, I suggest getting a machine or motherboard with a NVME drive (current highest capacity is 8TB, but it will cost you; Windows boots almost instantly on NVMEs (even faster than regular SSDs), and Photoshop opens like a dream). I'd recommend getting at least a TB of NVME storage, as that's fine for most peoples apps and OS, and is inexpensive. Then pairing it up with some regular SSDs or HDs.
These days HDDs are great for price and for capacity. I think 16TB drives are the current sweet spot, at $350 for a Seagate Enterprise model: https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-256MB-3-5-Inch-Enterprise-ST16000NM001G/dp/B07SPFPKF4/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=16tb+hard+drive&qid=1609194753&sprefix=16tb&sr=8-4 . I'd use them for cheap long term storage (most machines come with 6 SATA connectors these days, with one being used for the Blu-Ray burner, and maybe another for a SSD. Leaving 4 connectors for 4 huge drives).
And yes, you do want your games on a NVME drive. The load times are incredible, and the latency minute.
I know there is a Canadian currency exchange, but in the US, 16 TB EXOS are about $340 each. Bob
16TB Exos drives are currently on Amazon for $399.00 new and $368 renewed.
Those Samsung/Sandisk SSDs are good as shuttle drives but I wouldn’t recommend them for actively working on projects as then tend to overheat after extended periods of use.
Ultimately it depends on your budget and how much space you need.
OWC has a few interesting options ranging from NVME single and multi NVME to the beastly Thunderblade.
If you need more than 8TB then you can get decent r/w speeds using a spinning disk array set to RAID 0 so long as you get adequately fast 7200rpm drives. A Thunderbay 4 filled with Seagate EXOS will get you a lot more bang for your buck in terms of storage space and will be plenty of bandwidth dor 4K footage.
Of course in either case - RAID is not a backup so you still need to plan for a proper 3-2-1 backup workflow.
Having said that - even high end editing machines are going to work a lot more efficiently if youre running a proxy based offline/online workflow.
good lick.
I have a NAS with nine 16TB Exos drives in it. They're great. You can also get them out of shucking Seagate externals, but it's almost not worth it considering how cheap the Exos drives are.
A lot of times I see Seagate Exos available cheaper than the Ironwolfs. WD Reds are just as good too, just a bit more expensive.
In stock at Amazon for $349, only $20 more.
Or you could get a preshucked drive and save yourself a buck and the effort.
If you're looking for some quality protection, I've ordered drives faily recently from serverpartsdeals and sabrePC via Amazon and was quite please with how they managed their packaging. Serverpartsdeals was legit beyond what I was expecting TBH.
This sale applies to Canada too. It appears to be WD's weekly sale
The 16TB Exos is also 369 at Amazon right now too.
For 20 bucks more I can get an enterprise drive.
- Seagate EXO X16 16TB - $289.99
- WD Ultrastar DC HC550 16TB - $291.58 which is preaty much the same drive as the element but no need to shuck and full 5 year warranty.
Only $290 new with full manufacturer warranty, tho...
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-256MB-3-5-Inch-Enterprise-ST16000NM001G/dp/B07SPFPKF4
> it's not unlimited GBs if one can only back up a limited number of drives
Ah, we support a high number of drives, but we do expect (and recommend) customers combine them inside a "Drobo" or any other type enclosure they choose and it becomes one drive letter (or one mounted drive identified by name on the Macintosh). And feel free to use multiple Drobos!
This particular model: https://www.drobo.com/storage-products/8d/ takes 8 drives. If you put 16 TByte drives in that (like: https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-256MB-3-5-Inch-Enterprise-ST16000NM001G/dp/B07SPFPKF4/ ) then you are up to about 128 TBytes per drive letter (that's unformatted, less with parity and such). If you setup 8 of those you can get to a Petabyte, and so on. There are probably larger enclosures you can buy, but that's practical instructions to get to a Petabyte pretty easily. It's $7/month to back it up. Backblaze loses about $5,115/month on a Petabyte customer, but we don't kick them off. You can see a histogram of backup sizes in Backblaze Personal Backup here: https://i.imgur.com/GiHhrDo.gif (you will need to zoom in, the largest customer at the time that histogram was created was 1.6 PBytes).
The thing about Backblaze Personal Backup is we really do mean "unlimited storage". We have never kicked off even a single customer in 15 years for the size of their backup. But understand why: this wasn't an attempt to attract large data customers.
Our business plan is "super easy zero configuration stress free automatic backup for people who are not very technical". And these not very technical people DESERVE to be backed up, even more than the super technical people. And one of the "pain points" for non-technical people is this: they don't know how much data they have, or where it is. So when we say, "doesn't matter, it's a fixed price of $7/month" you can just see them relax and smile - somebody finally made a product for them. Sometimes they might ask "what about my 1 external drive?" Answer: "Doesn't matter, it's a fixed price of $7/month." This is a product built for them, because "fixed price" is more simple and requires less computer knowledge than "per GByte" pricing.
So we preserve the fixed unlimited pricing for non-technical laptop customers, and we really DO provide that to all customers. We have to put up with the customers with more data in order to make the legitimate offer to non-technical customers, but the intent was never to mislead the massive data crowd and trick them into using Backblaze Personal Backup.
It's been a delicate balance, because obviously anybody with 20 TBytes (or 20 individual hard drives) is going to be a computer expert, or at least a prosumer. And that kind of customer is going to want a COMPLETELY different product. They want lots of advanced features, and more control, which is the opposite of "zero configuration". We literally couldn't offer those customers a good solution for the first 8 years we were in business. But we finally built Backblaze B2 for them, so now they have somewhere to go when the lack of configuration or lack of control over the "zero configuration Personal Backup" frustrates them.
Backblaze B2 can literally do anything you can imagine. HUNDREDS of different programs can be chosen to perform your backup, or you can write your own - in any computer language. B2 doesn't even require you to keep a copy on your computer like Personal Backup does! You can look through some of the 3rd party software choices on this page: https://www.backblaze.com/b2/integrations.html Be sure to scroll down, there are hundreds to choose from.
One last thing to think about: Backblaze Personal Backup and Backblaze B2 are not mutually exclusive. Any Backblaze account can have BOTH enabled on the same account, there is no such thing as a "B2 Account" or a "Personal Backup Account". So if you want to play around with B2, sign into your web account at https://www.backblaze.com/user_signin.htm and find the "Settings" on the far left lower down, and click the button saying "Enable B2". This is 100% free, all it is doing is showing you more web links that we didn't want to overwhelm the non-technical customers with. And the first 10 GBytes of B2 is free to play with.
OP's link is missing the "dp" code. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SPFPKF4
I'm not 100% sure how I should calculate this, can you help? If I add a 16TB EXOS ($312) to my farm, and it will really hold about 15 TiB of plots, and farming is about $0.84 USD/TiB/month... how long would break-even be?
I think to find the months-to-break-even I'd do $312 / 15-TiB / $0.84-per-month?
Thanks!
It’s $307 on Amazon
Seagate 16TB HDD Exos X16 7200 RPM 512e/4Kn SATA 6Gb/s 256MB Cache 3.5-Inch Enterprise Hard Drive (ST16000NM001G) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SPFPKF4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_09XX1ZJJCXFWN3Y9JJ0J?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Yes. But here the 16TB Exos X is cheaper than the 10TB Ironwolf.
https://www.amazon.se/Seagate-Exos-X16-ST16000NM001G-SATA/dp/B07SPFPKF4
I am not an Android user, so I had to Google.
Could it be in this case that the phone is an "import" (see https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/pd5c82/why_is_pixel_5a_not_available_in_the_eu/)
But to give a live example of the hard disk situation. A fairly common drive.
https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Seagate-ST16000NM001G-Enterprise-7200RPM-4-16ms/dp/B07SPFPKF4/ref=sr\_1\_1 314.98€ (they may add 10-15 euros for VAT equalisation, not going to check out to check), free delivery though.
https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/158502/st16000nm001g/seagate-16tb-exos-x16-3-5-sisainen-kiintolevy-sata-iii-7200-rpm-256mb Delivery extra.
or 462e here https://www.multitronic.fi/en/products/2333229/exos-16tb-6gb-s-sata-7-2k-512e-4kn-256mb
!!!
Seems verkkokauppa has stopped selling high capacity drives or it is a temporary removal. Won't be missed.
Amazon is not the cheapest for drives always either.
Another German vendor I use (again, price shows German vat so you'd add 10-15 euros in addition to balance it to Finnish VAT, plus 10-15e in shipping).
https://www.alternate.de/Seagate/Exos-X16-16-TB-Festplatte/html/product/1577050 290e.
Sorry, as much as I want to support buying locally, when the price for the same product is 100-150e more expensive for a commodity product (you can't say "ah, it needs Finnish language localisation or support" it is hard to really buy locally. Often the goods come faster from other EU countries too.
:(
These 16TBs have been posted here a couple times: $411 for at least the last month.
I'm in the US. I'm not familiar with Europe but a quick search on Amazon shows this ST16000NM001G.
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You are going to have potentially 3 people working at full capacity. I would get the QNAP TVS-h1288X (about $2700). You put in all eight 7200 RPM Seagate EXOS drives - 16 TB each.
These are $315 each on Amazon right now -
After RAID 6 (2 drives can fail without losing all your data), you get 96 TB of usable storage. You operate with 10G, not thunderbolt. You get a QNAP QNA-T310G1T adapter ($189 each) which converts thunderbolt 3 to 10G, for each computer. You plug each one of these with a cheap Cat 6 cable into a QNAP QSW-M1208-8C switch ($699) which is an 8 port switch, which will allow for 7 computers total to be connected - or a QNAP QSW-M408-4C switch, ($349) which is a 4 port 10G ethernet switch - so 3 computers, and one port for the QNAP 10G connection.
If you run out of room, and are restricted on price for the size of the drives (because you can purchase 18 TB drives for more storage capacity - or you can purchase a larger QNAP - the TVS-h1688X, which is a 12 bay, that requires 12 drives) - for either model QNAP, you can always add an 8 bay or a 12 bay expander. The 12 bay expander (which can be attached to the TVS-h1288X or TVS-h1688X) is the TL-D1600S. This has 12 slots, and after RAID 6 with 16 TB drives, this will give you 160 TB of additional storage. The TL-D1600S is $1100.
And of course, either QNAP can be setup for remote access for remote editors with proxy editing - or can be setup for sync (Hybrid Backup Sync) to a cloud site (you are at the mercy of your internet connection upload speeds for either of these !).
Please let me know if you have any further questions. I do this every day.
Here's the actual listing
This is actually from the Seagate store. I initially thought it may be some gray market item for example a discarded drive from a company with no warranty for example. This is the Ironwolf Pro line of drive from Seagate, too.
The 16tb version is available for $35 more at $325. https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-256MB-3-5-Inch-Enterprise-ST16000NM001G/dp/B07SPFPKF4/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=16tb+exos&qid=1630698194&sr=8-3
These Seagate X16 16GB drives
Deal link: Amazon
Brand-new Exos X16 16TB drives are $325 on Amazon. What does the $75 up-charge for a refurb IronWolf Pro get you?
The 16TB EXOS is slightly cheaper/TB than the 14TB.
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-256MB-3-5-Inch-Enterprise-ST16000NM001G/dp/B07SPFPKF4/
Not trying to price police, but these are $369.99 on Amazon.
Internal: https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-256MB-3-5-Inch-Enterprise-ST16000NM001G/dp/B07SPFPKF4 External: https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expansion-16TB-External-Drive/dp/B091J9WYYG/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=16TB&qid=1627308190&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExVkZaSjNIRVgyTjNKJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzAwND...
There are also 20TB and up
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-256MB-3-5-Inch-Enterprise-ST16000NM001G/dp/B07SPFPKF4
These are currently cheaper than the external, which will get you a warrenty.
I think there's going to be price decrease in hdds early 2021, with new hdds with larger storage capacity on the horizon.
Shucking is probably the most affordable option for a brand new drives. I also go hunting on FB marketplace and gumtree for drives, that's if you don't mind old/used drives. ozbargain often has some good hdds deals.
Also, now is a good time to buy from US especially with the current exchange rate. Seagate 16TB HDD Exos X16 7200 RPM for ~$480 inc delivery to Aus.
Any thoughts on this [hdd](https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-256MB-3-5-Inch-Enterprise-ST16000NM001G/dp/B07SPFPKF4) for gaming? I'm planning on getting a 2tb Samsung 860 evo for windows and adobe photoshop, while using the Seagate exos for movies, games, and etc. i know enterpirse hdd arent meant for gaming, but will it be feasible. Money wise seems more worth it than buying 2-3 additional hdd just to store game & play games.
If I buy from Mike's Computer Shop on Amazon and I have to do a return, would that be through Amazon or Mike's? And has anyone bought a hard drive and know if they have warranty? I think Mike's has a restocking fee. I'm looking at the Seagate EXOS 16TB Drive and I'm just worried it might be an OEM drive. I prefer to have warranty so I'd rather not shuck a drive.
Are you looking to mirror or stripe them? Because for the cost of 2 of the 6tb you can get a 16tb exos.
Just a thought. Depending on the nas you should be able to pop in another drive to mirror later. Stripping I believe you have to have both drives at the onset.
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