> idk what cord comes with the NVIDIA RTX 2060 Super
Probably none. I hope you are not paying that price for the card tho, that is way over priced.
> assuming it comes with a F-F 8-pin connector, then i’m fine
I don't know why you would need this. GPU will have a female plug and the cable from the psu will have a male end.
> the mobo only comes with 2x SATA cables and no 8-pin cables
The 8pin cable is from the power supply to the gpu.
> i could buy a fan hub/splitter like this one https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00VNW556I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ovmXBbVBR6R65
Yes this will work for the system fans, connect the cpu fan to the cpu fan header and the rest of the fans to the splitter on the other 4 pin header.
Just got some liquid metal today! ...also 4x 40mm and 2x 60mm Noctuas (I have a problem with buying crap on amazon.) Going to see if I can fit the 60's in there along the top grill - I hate opening this thing up so I haven't bothered to actually measure it. I got this controller to run the fans. Pretty sure I'l either fry the mobo or my computer is going to fly away.
I'll make a separate post after I cram the fans in there, but I'm also going to try to actually install the backplate on my cooler so it might not be a great control test.
More quick googling...
>CPF04 is designed for enthusiasts with need for controlling numerous system fans.It is capable of expanding one motherboard PWM fan header to support up to eight fans. Powered directly by SATA cable from the computer power supply and filtered through a built-in 2200μF capacitor, the CPF04 can provide clean, stable voltage to any fan for optimal performance. Equipped with speed detection sensors for accurately controlling eight PWM fans simultaneously, it is an excellent solution for system fan expansion.
Someone can correct me if i'm wrong, but that seems like what you're looking for. I think you just need to make sure that you plug that hub into the one controllable port.
I'd recommend doing a little research because i'm not 100% on that, though it sounds pretty good to me.
Edit: See my other comment. No PWM fans, no control.
the msi tomahawk has 8 4 pin headers so you should be good to go but if for some reason you cant use all of them there are PWM fan hubs you could get, this would be a good option but there are some less expensive ones out there
I appreciate the write up.
I think part of the confusion is I wrote this super late and wasn't clear/got mixed up with some of the stuff there. Sorry.
The front fan "hub" is not a hub, I was just typing quickly and made a mistake describing it after finishing up the build the other night. It's simply 3 Lian Li fans, all separate from one another. They do however, have some type of ARGB hub that is connected/embedded to the front buttons on the case for RGB control. Otherwise, they're all separate.
All 3 of the LL and the 2 CM fans are connected to this Silverstone Hub since I only 3 fan headers on my MoBo, but am running 5 fans. That is then connected to my MoBo. My explanation sounded way more complicated than it needed to be.
Are you looking to control each fan on its own through the hub or just looking to reduce cable mess ?
If your looking to control each fan individually off a single header then your going to need something like the commander pro or similar.
If your just looking for what is essentially a powered fan splitter then this is my go to. It will let you control the fans via pwm but your motherboard will only see / report one fan. It's not an issue if you use the same fans in your case on the same curve, but if you want more control then your going to need something more advanced like the commander pro. I really can't think of any offhand that arent also RGB these days.
You can get a powered fan hub: https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
That draws power for the 8x fans it supports thru a SATA power connected directly from your PSU, and only takes the fan signal from the SYS_fan header.
I'm using a Silverstone hub here for the six 3 pin case fans https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
I just realized the Amazon description says it cannot control fan speed of 3 pin fans. Do you know if there are other fan hubs that do allow for this?
Amazon reviews say your board has 3 fan headers, including the CPU fan. So you have 2 fan headers to work with, assuming you're using a single fan heatsink. A fan hub would probably be your best best. Using a bunch of splitters can lead to underpowered fans, which means unintentionally slower RPMs. The hub will power the fans properly and still allow you to connect it to a header on your mobo for speed control.
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
Otherwise you can always get a <em>fan</em> splitter (this is the first reference on Amazon, not necessarily there because I recommend this model specifically)
And yes the point thing worked, thanks :)
2nd this. Im unfamiliar with speed fan, but if you have no other option, you can try a fan hub/controller. Mostly they are just powered by sata/usb off the motherboard. Here is an option:
Some versions are fancier and mount into the drive bay with controls.
this one
or the Phantek.
Fan hubs and fan cable extensions if you need them are great for cable management :)
Motherboards can usually supply 12V at 1A safely. So, unless you are using some really high power fans, just run them off the motherboard. This will also give you speed control of the fans whereas powering them from the PSU will force them to run at 100% (unless you have PWM fans and use a powered fan hub).
Personally, I wouldn't go with a hub that exposes the pins like that. I'd go with something like this from a reputable company. It's best to have both intake and exhaust, but prioritize intake; it's better to have positive pressure than negative.
Only other thing you would need is a PWM fan splitter, unless your mobo supports up to 6 fans on it's own.
I personally bought this one, it's supposed to arrive tomorrow. https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1542930372&sr=8-3&keywords=pwm+fan+hub
Just get an internal PWM fan hub, I wouldn't recommend daisy chaining 5 fans with several splitters cause that will overload the header.
Something like this, IIRC it just needs sata power then you plug it's mother cable to the existing fan header on your motherboard so you can control it.
Rather than risk it I would replace your CPU cooler with an aftermarket one. You can get a fairly decent one from Cryorig for a low price to help. I'd get one of these for those fans rather than using the AIO header. Both might solve the heat problems in game.
Unless you're using exceptionally thick rads, you won't get a whole lot of performance out of push-pull, not compared to the cost anyway. Using higher-performance fans (Looking at Noctua branded fans, specially their industrial series with higher maximum RPM ratings) would be more cost-effective.
If you're absolutely, positively set on just spending money....
Utilize a fan controller, rather than your motherboard's fan headers. It'll offer a lot more flexibility. Use powered splitters, rather than passive splitters, as if you put too many fans on a single fan header, you can burn it out. I use one of these for my high-draw Noctuas without issue. I learned about overloading a fan header the hard way, and also learned that the amperage rating on the fan may not be the actual peak draw, so even if the math says you should be able to get three on a header with some amperage to spare, you probably can't.
Currently have a z370 extreme 4 mobo from ASROCK and I am going to get more case fans and two more RGB strips. If I were to get THIS fan hub, I would juwst have to plug my fans into it and then plug the hub into my mobo? Also, are there 2 RGB headers on my mobo because I am going to plug in two RGB strips.
Currently have a z370 extreme 4 mobo from ASROCK and I am going to get more case fans and two more RGB strips. If I were to get THIS fan hub, I would juwst have to plug my fans into it and then plug the hub into my mobo? Also, are there 2 RGB headers on my mobo because I am going to plug in two RGB strips.
Looking at the "in the box" pictures on Amazon and other e-tailers, you'll need either a PWM splitter, or a hub of some kind.
It is generally safe to have two fans on a single fan header, often times even 3 is safe.
I used this hub right here to provide power and PWM signal for three high-power fans. It's cheap, it works. It has a SATA plug for power, and it plugs into any four-pin fan header you desire. Makes sure one fan is plugged into whichever header is colored slightly different, that header provides the necessary PWM read-back.
If you just want to split to two per header, just google "pwm fan splitter"
Another option for you would be to use a PWM hub for the fans on the radiators - since you'd like want all of the radiator fans at the same speed. This hub (https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I), for example, takes a single PWM signal in and the duplicates it to all of the connected fans. Since it has its own power supply, you don't have to worry about overloading the CoPro's fan headers. Two of those would cover the 12 planned radiator fans and take up only 2 connections on the CoPro. You'd still need a Lighting Node Pro for the RGB control. Unfortunately, the HD multipacks do not come with a NoPro.
If they are high amperage fans it is possible to overload a fan header on cheap motherboards.
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
Get something like that powers them directly from the PSU. I have one and it has no trouble running running fully loaded.
You will lose the PWM function of the fans since they be controlled by changing the voltage instead of using PWM. If you want PWM and a fan hub get a PWM fan hub for like ~$12. No need to pay the crazy premium Corsair or NZXT charges unless you just want to use their software instead of the BIOS, fanspeed, or whatever motherboard program you have.
The best thing to do is use a fan hub like Silverstone's PWM fan hub. It's powered via SATA through your power supply and connects to a single PWM header on your motherboard to regulate RPM. 3 pin fans will always operate at 100% fan speed, so make sure you use 4 pin fans.
This will ensure your pump and fans receive proper voltage and you won't lose PWM functionality.
I think your best bet would be to buy a fan hub of some kind, like this.
Lets you be a lot more flexible with the headers on your mobo.
Here is one I used to use before I had my commander pro.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VNW556I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
You just need one connector on your motherboard and then sata power. You can then go into your bios and set the fans to PWM mode and they will change based on temperatures or you can set your own RPM for them.
This particular one can control 8 fans.
From what i gather in these forums, Noctua fans are highly praised. It all depends on what you are looking to do. Also depends on if looks matter (color, RGB, LED variants)
Depending on what signal you want to split, a fan hub may work in your case as well. I have one hooked to my CPU cooler, as i have 4 fans on it. https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
This Silverstone hub will be the cheapest simplest solution. Had to use the CPU fan header to get the PWM control working right on mine, seems to be a common thing for a lot of people, but you may get PWM control off your regular headers. CPU fan works fine flip-flopped with the other ones.
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
Not without splitters.
With that many fans, you should just buy a fan hub.
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
You really only need 3 case fans.
Two for intake, one for exhaust.
Sorry for the very specific question, but with one of these does anyone know if you can use one of these PWM versions on the speed detection port and then 3-pin ones on the others? Will they all run at the same speed even without PWM on the additional fans?
Mind providing an amazon link? I see a different board than i think your referring to. Also, regardless of PWM connectors is it feasible to think I can just run this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VNW556I/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER to that single PWM and all fans to the hub and have the PWM functions all work?
You have to get a fan splitter that also plugs directly into your PSU via SATA or Molex in addition to your motherboard's PWM fan header, like this one. This way it gets orders for fan speed control from the motherboard while drawing power directly from the PSU rather than siphoning it through the MB's wiring.
Lots of fan questions today huh? :)
As long as the fans have power they can work, if you need them for PWM fans, get a PWM fan hub that will extend the amount you can use.
1) Control - PWM (4pin) vs Voltage based controllers (3pin and molex)
2) PWM Fan hubs are small and cheap, I personally have 2 in mine and have 14 fans running off of them. Since they are PWM controlled, they increase in speed according to a fan curve that I have set, if the CPU and GPUs heat up. I use this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VNW556I
3) RGB fans are pretty expensive, and I honestly don't like that most are not PWM controllable. I would rather use a single LED fan, or no LED fans and use other sources for lighting. Corsair AF 120 quiet editions, or SP 120 quiet editions are nice, effective, quiet, and cheap.
4) 120mm are fine, what you want is a good balance of CFM and dB. CFM being how much airflow is pushed, dB meaning how loud they are.
It should have 2 one for the cpu fan one for the case fan, either way you will probably need to add one of these in your purchase of extra fans
If all you're doing is using a splitter for 2 fans on one header, you're good.
If you need more slots, a fan controller is going to be the way to go.
I like this one, which runs off SATA power, and can be controlled.
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I/
I use this to give me access to more PWM slots, and it works wonderfully. It just uses a sata power connector and needs to be connected to one PWM slot on your motherboard. From that it gives you 8 PWM ports to use your fans.
whatever you do, don't only have exhaust fans going. You'll have better temps and less dust with more intake than exhaust, as air will still escape the case through all the holes and cracks in the case.
I would suggest going with a PWM fnn hub like this though. https://smile.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I?sa-no-redirect=1
Ya my thought is just storing some larger steam games, photos, videos and other stuff like that. Any recommendations on a drive at that size?
From what i understand the controller is only for the LEDs. I've been looking for a fan hud but can't really find anything that i like. This is what i was thinking about getting for those purposes.. I can't control the PWM fan speeds individually from this either, isn't that big of deal though.
You can approach this in different ways. You could get a big hub (or two) and have everything powered directly from that. Or you could use splitters and have them directly connected to the board.
You don't need a 5.25" controller, and even if you got one, none supports 14 fans. There's a good Silverstone PWM hub that can control the fan speed based on one header that goes to the motherboard. You could grab two of these and have up to 16 PWN headers while only using two headers on the motherboard for speed control.
Thanks for the suggestion but I don't have a port like that in my case. Currently have a Fractal Nano S case and am using this.
When using such a splitter, make sure the fan header is actually able to provide enough current for two fans. In case it isn't, get something like this, which supplies additional power: https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I/
Thanks for the reply!
> Depending on the games but a 1080Ti may be needed for that.
I'm paying a bit more than I'd like already, so I'd prefer to stay at the standard 1080 if performance isn't that much better--is that a mistake? After looking into possible cooling problems with my build, I've decided on the EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Hybrid Card. Will it be a problem if I put it on the rear exhaust right behind the air-cooled CPU?
> Is that motherboard locked for a reason?
Locked BIOS? I'm not sure how to tell if one's unlocked--I stuck with that motherboard because it comes with bluetooth, wifi, and a sound card. Any good alternatives?
> Portability / cooling
I plan on adding a case fan splitter (link here) for the 1 case fan and two corsair fans, as there's only 1 chassis fan connector on the mobo. Will be fine even though they're differently sized fans?
On my Nov 2016 build I bought a "Asus Z170I PRO GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard" which only had two fan support. Since I wanted to run five fans I purchased a fan hub:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VNW556I/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Nothing special about that fan hub; it's a generic simple piece of kit and plenty of other vendors make equivalent devices. You should be able to get a fan hub under $20.
It's been a while since I installed, but I believe power to run the hub comes from a computer PSU cable so it doesn't put extra load on the motherboard to run all the fans. It uses the motherboard fan connector as the switch to turn the cluster of fans on/off.
Are they plugged into a 4 pin or 3 pin header? Even if they're PWM fans they'll act as DC fans on 3 pin headers. If you only have one 4 pin header you can use this to plug in more fans.
That one should work. However running 3 fans off a motherboard fan header isn't recommended. Best way is using a fan hub that draws power from the PSU (either via SATA or molex cable), like this one.
I use this in my mini itx build.
Plug it into one of your 4 pin headers and it gives you 8.
You can use both 3 pin and 4 pin fans on this but only the 4 pins fans will be speed controlled by the bios.
The only catch is that all 8 of the ports on the fan hub run at the same speed setting that one master 4 pin header it's plugged in to is set to. So I would keep your cpu fan on one of the mobo 4 pin headers by itself and use a fan hub like this one another header for all your case fans.
I've added a second fan to my build to help cool the lower half (the GPU is long enough that there isn't ample airflow between upper and lower) but my MOBO only has one system fan connection. I bought a fan hub (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VNW556I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) that says it supports fan control, but only monitors speed of 1 fan, it doesn't control speed at all and as a result both of my fans are spinning at 100% all the time. Does anyone else have this product and could give me some insight on how to control the fans with it, or have suggestions for another fan controller/method of controlling both fans with 1 sys_fan connection?
Hi everyone, i recieved a few case fans as a gift for christmas, but my motherboard (gigabytye GA-H110M-A) only has enough headers for 1 case fan. I am currently using a splitter but i am looking to add another fan soon so i ordered a silverstone fan hub https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00VNW556I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Is it safe to run this fan hub off of my motherboard's header? i have read from some places that it isn't..
Looking at your motherboard layout I only see that one 4 pin (not counting the cpu 4 pin). If all your case fans are 4 pin, a good option would be to get a pwm hub. This would let you adjust all the case fans together off one pwm fan curve.
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
4 pin just gives your more granular control over the speed. 3 pin speed can still be adjusted (mobo options not withstanding) but usually only in like a high or low mode.
You would want to double check on how much power each fan draws and the max output of your motherboard fan head. I think most quality mobos can easily support 3-4 fans. If you want to control more you could get a basic fan controller like this.
I'd suggest getting a single 8GB stick of RAM so you have the option to upgrade to 16GB later. Your mobo only has 2 RAM slots.
You'll be golden with simply the fans that come with that case. Plenty of airflow there.
You can buy a PWM controller. This silverstone pwn fan controller can control up to 8 fans.
This one will let you power the fans off a SATA connector while maintaining PWM control via your mobo:
I'll be ordering 3 for an upcoming project.
That would be fine. You do want more air going into the case than being removed. Check out this fan controller
If you want the lazy man's way, you can get a fan hub like this and connect all of your fans (including the CPU ones) then plug in the fan hub into the CPU header to control them all at the same time.
Otherwise you can connect all the fans from one side into one splitter, then connect the splitter to a fan header.
For example connect all the front intakes together into one hub, the side intake will have it's own hub, and the exhaust(s) will have it's own.
Your board has one CPU header for the fan on your CLC, and one SYS header for a case fan. Since you have three case fans you need something like this.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you could even fit 3 140s...
I have an 8-way fan splitter since I have too many fans to run off my mobo, which also helps with cable management... so it reaches to that, which is in the back section of the case. I imagine they'd still reach without the splitter, but IDK for sure. If nothing else I'm sure fan extension cables could be had for cheap.
This is the splitter I'm using, BTW. If you're wanting to cram your case full of fans, I absolutely recommend it. It's pretty overkill, but makes things so much easier.
I think the easiest (although most expensive) method is to use a PWM fan hub, and all PWM fans.
I've used this SilverStone hub for all of my builds, both water and air.
I set it up so that every fan is connected to that hub, and the hub is connected to the CPU fan header on my motherboard.
Pros:
Easiest method of controlling fans. Just adjust through BIOS, or fan control software. It will auto adjust fan speed based on internal temps.
Less cables showing. All you see from the front is the one cable going into the CPU header. You don't see fan cables going to multiple different fan headers on the MOBO.
Cons:
More expensive
Less selection of PWM fans than DC fans (could be difficult to color match w/o painting).
Ah! Yeah a hub is very different than a controller, and I'd definitely suggest going that route if you're using 4+ fans.
Here is the one I always use: http://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
Useful Info: - Hub gets its power from a SATA cable
Easiest way to install is with Velcro on the back of the case
One PWM cable connects from the hub, to a PWM header on your motherboard
One of the PWM hub headers is the "control". It uses that fan to control all of the other fans connected to the hub.
Worth mentioning, you do need to be using PWM fans to control the speed through this hub. 3 pin DC fans will work, you just won't be able to control their speed at all.
For software, use SpeedFan if your motherboard manufacturer doesn't include software to do this already (most do). Also you can look into controlling from the UEFI based on temperature settings.
The basics for all fan control software is:
'Once Y hits X temp, change fan speed to Z%'
'Manually change fan speed to Z%'
Which of those fans did you read takes 0.4 amps? That is a bit ridiculous for any kind of fan.
Edit: okay, those JetFlo fans qualify as ridiculous. Wow... You might look into a PWM fan hub/controller to power those.
That means I would have to power 3 case fans off a single mobo sys fan header. In that case, should I get a fan hub?
Yes it is. Most motherboards don't even have that many fan slots. The ones that do place them terribly or aren't all PWM.
About the Grid, it looks pretty big and you could get this for quite a bit less and in 2 days if you got amazon prime. You can still change the speeds and whatnot, you get 8 fans instead of 6, and it's a much smaller form factor than the grid.
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> as for the fans, could you recommend me a fan that can be automatically controlled by the pc, or controlled by the user (whether it’s all fans being the same speed or being able to control each fan individually, doesn’t matter to me).
PWM fans can be controlled by the motherboard when they are connectd to it, if you are going to use a fan controller like the one you linked earlier then it will have to be connected to the 4pin fan header on the motherboard in order to controll the speed of the fans that are connected to it. https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00VNW556I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ovmXBbVBR6R65?th=1
> Speed detection and PWM speed control are functional only when motherboard is connected. > Speed control function is unavailable for 3 pin fans.
As long as you are using 4 pin pwm fans you should not have a issue with the controller adjusting the fan speeds from the motherboard.
> i’m looking for about CAD$50 or under per fan (about USD$40) and has a cfm rating in the mid-40’s
These can go from 400 to 1800 rpm, pwm controlled with a 4 pin connection, 61cfm https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_130&item_id=174539
These can go from 650 to 2000 rpm, pwm controlled with a 4 pin connection, 59cfm https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_130&item_id=156458
> as for the exhaust, i don’t have to buy a different type of fan or anything, i just need to flip it around, right?
It should come pre-installed in the rear and hopefully they installed it pointing in the right direction too :D
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Motherboard | MSI - B450M MORTAR Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $94.99 @ B&H |
Memory | G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $124.99 @ Newegg Business |
Storage | Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $72.99 @ Amazon |
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Power Supply | SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $79.99 @ Newegg Business |
Case Fan | Cougar - Vortex PWM 70.5 CFM 120mm Fan | $13.67 @ Amazon |
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You can do a really nice build with that budget. The main thing to keep in mind is cooling. The Titan X Maxwell consumes quite a fair bit of power at stock, and goes even higher when overclocked, which is worth doing because you gain a lot of performance. So I added some case fans to use as top and rear exhausts. You will need to grab a PWM splitter to run them all on one header. I use this one below.
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
The new corsair HD 120s look sick and offer great static pressure but... cost a kidney. :/ As for a fan controller, I would highly recommend the silverstone pwm fan controller ( Amazon ) and software like speedfan to control the rpms. Jayztwocents has a good tutorial on the software as it is a bit confusing at first. Best of luck!
I think that will be a wast of 5 PCI ports, why not get one of the pc fan hubs.
Here is one from amazon, I would just buy the cheapest one though. https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
SilverStone PWM Fan Hub System Cables, Black (CPF04) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VNW556I/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_RKX6M34SYATQKFP3EQAK?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Mines a cheap Silverstone one. It only has one plug in so I think I need to get a better one. Probably gonna buy the coolermaster one next.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VNW556I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_bvT3FbV0FZT8A
Thanks. I can get a used Silverstone hub for $15, or those cables. What would you choose?
https://www.amazon.ca/SilverStone-Technology-All-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
The Silverstone fan hub sells bnib at Amazon for $11.99, https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
LOL!!! > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3+way+fan+splitter+amazon
I wonder how you did that hahah awesome! ok yeah that controller looks amazing I guess one of those and a three way spittle will do, I was looking onto some usb to 3/4 pin connector adapters that run at 5v which will bring down the speed of the fans by at least 60%. It will make it less noisy, I am thinking in using this controller for that though: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VNW556I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
which will get hooked on a 12v 2amp dc outlet : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NRXM6TH/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2J89ND18SD80N&psc=1
I was also thinking in using a potentiometer to increase the voltage if I want to increase the speed, but the one fan controller already comes with 4 potentiometers so perhaps I need a 12 dc power connector with an output of at least 4 A to be safe and account for the blue LED... what do you think?
You'll also want to get this fan hub.
Here is an extensive guide to building a PC, covers most of the topics of putting it together. You'll also want to enable XMP (sometimes called DOCP) in the BIOS to make sure the RAM is running at the full speed, and remember to set your monitor to 144hz in the Nvidia control panel when you've installed Windows and Drivers.
Feel free to ask any questions.
3 pins will not do PWM (pulse width modulation) needs to be 4 pins.
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
I would recommend a fan hub
something like that : https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
Sorry I thought I was replying in for another post, I'm refering to these, they come in low profile and full profile, I think the SC847 needs low profile that will be the these.
Then you will only need the CSE-PTJBOD-CB2, a couple SFF-8088 cables and of course the HBA card.
Oh maybe one of these or similar for the fans since there are only two fan headers on the CSE-PTJBOD-CB2 and you need to connect like 6 fans afaik.
Could I use one of those fan hubs? Like this one: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00VNW556I?tag=georiot-ca-default-20&ascsubtag=tomshardware-ca-1552940768803408100-20
You would probably need a fan hub like this.
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00VNW556I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_IIBeFbPF1H7GV
SilverStone PWM Fan Hub System Cables, Black (CPF04) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VNW556I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_etjvEbX2EGKXC
Here is an Amazon link but I think you can buy it in other places as well
Honestly, if you're looking to plug in more than 2-3 fans, I would just pick up a cheap PWM fan hub and not even worry about the fan headers on the board.
Here's one from Silverstone:
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
Just use a fan hub.
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
Also that only happens if you go over 1A per header or(2A assuming its a typical water pump header)
something like this - can control up to 8 fans individually with custom fan curves easily within software.
I've got a Silverstone fan hub I'd sell for $10 https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00VNW556I/
Also have 2x 140mm and 5x 120mm fans. Send me a pm if still looking
Thank you is this https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I fan hub fine? I was reading one of the bad reviews and theyre claiming it "broke their pc" O.o
I mean you could just get a fan controller for like $15: https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
That way you don't need to drop $200 on replacing components that work perfectly fine.
You can use a hub
SilverStone Technology All Black 1-to-8 PWM Fan Hub (CPF04) https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00VNW556I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_2zMxCbPXEEHQP
This is a handy splitter. Sata powered. Turns one connector into 8.
SilverStone PWM Fan Hub System... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VNW556I?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I have the same case, fans and aio. Temps are awesome! I actually don't have the commander pro so mine is a rat's nest with the two separate hubs that came with the fans. I did use this sata powered fan splitter which made my life a little easier.
SilverStone PWM Fan Hub System... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VNW556I?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
https://imgur.com/gallery/AexkzAX
Good luck!
yeah that scares me.. I am swapping out 6 sp120 fans. and these are 4pin fans and i think the old ones are 3 pin.. i am replacing my current fan controller https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992006 to https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
Fancy with supplemental power:
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https://www.amazon.com/JBtek-Black-Sleeved-Splitter-Converter/dp/B01EF9OI0O
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Yes, off the top of my head I know there are at least 3 headers. Would a fan hub like this one work?
One of these works wonders
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I/?tag=akshatblog198-20
I have this one. It powers 5 of my fans. Its a great device if u wanna upgrade into more fans.
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Those fans are not bad. Their cooling is better than the ones i mentioned by a small amount, but if spending an extra $10 doesnt bother you, id say go for it.
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Edit: Didn't see your link to PCPartPicker... nice. I wrote this post under the impression that you were going to buy a higher-grade CPU... but it's a Pentium G4560... just use the stock cooler. RIP.
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Does your case have a window on the side, and if so, are you planning your order for aesthetics? If so, I would recommend going with an AIO. If you don't care about aesthetics and/or have concerns about AIO's, then probably Noctua air-cooling is your best bet.
If you do want to go with AIO, the TDP matters. If it's a 65w TDP processor, you might could get away with a 120/140mm AIO. If it's 95/115/130 then you'll want to consider a 240mm, and 165w (Skylake-X/Threadripper), a 280mm.
Personally, I'm a huge fan of AIO's, in particular EVGA AIO's and I'll tell you why:
If you get a 240/280mm AIO, may I recommend this incredibly nifty product:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VNW556I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This thing is so amazing. You can connect all of your radiator fans to it, and control them from one motherboard header. It has a SATA connection, and also a capacitor that provides steady, constant voltage to all of the fans connected.
If you get an AIO I would not recommend using the stock fans unless you want to hear a jet engine taking off every time you put stress on your CPU. I know some people will disagree, but I really prefer BeQuiet HIGH SPEED fans as radiator fans:
They are expensive but worth every penny to me.
Far as air coolers, the standard recommendation is:
You can also spice it up with:
(Other colors available you'll have to search)
And
Seconding this. I currently have 14 fans running off a single motherboard fan header with 2 of these hubs daisy chained together.
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
Comes off one header on your board and uses sata power. I use this in my system and it works well.
Silverstone fan hub https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
It should be fine. If it can't supply enough power chances are the fans will switch off.
If you want to play it safe this is what I use to control my fans https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VNW556I/?tag=pcpapi-20
No problem. I'm using the Silverstone 1-to-8 PWM hub to control 5 ML120's and ML140's, it only costs a little more than a splitter cable - would recommend
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
Thanks for the response! So (-MiN-) My case fans claim to be PWM, but they only have three pins... and I thought PWM fans have to be four pinned. Am I wrong? I'm pretty sure that I can't control my fans from a bios without four pins. Does this adapter allow me to do that somehow? ��
Amazon Does this adapter do the same thing?
allpinouts.org This website says that if you connect a 3-pin fan to a 4-pin header that you can't control the speed.
Option 1: fan hub that plugs into a USB header.
Option 2: 4 fan splitter. The plugs all fans into one fan header, shouldn't overload the header on good quality boards.
Option 3: PWM splitter for PSU that eases the load on your motherboard and powers the fans through the PSU. Not sure how well your fans can take advantage of it though since they're 3 pin, they might just run full speed.
Would this be btter? I just want to have all the fans set on the same curve. If not, you have any suggestions? Thanks for the help.
SilverStone PWM Fan Hub System Cables, Black (CPF04) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VNW556I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_lVGiAbBYZ891B
Would something like this work? If this were the case, would I plug this into my motherboard?
I use this one and it works well
https://www.amazon.ca/SilverStone-Technology-All-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
This is more reliable and well reviewed.
If you're fans are PWM fans or have 4-pins, you will be able to control their speeds.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VNW556I/
This is what I use. I use two to control 14 fans.
> lc power airrazor
http://www.lc-power.com/en/product/case-fans/lc-cf-120-pro-airazor/
Are these the right ones?
If so, you have PWM fans.
You can use something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VNW556I/
To control 8 at once.
PWM Fan hub: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VNW556I
This is what I use to control fans directly from my motherboard header.
As for your PSU question, it's advised not to do that.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00VNW556I that's the UK version
Fan splitter, or if you have a lot of fans grab a fan hub.
SilverStone PWM Fan Hub System Cables, Black (CPF04) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VNW556I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_RDxBzbG31JTRW
I have a Corsair Obsidian 450D that came with a ton of very loud case fans. I switched them all out for PWM fans, which I hooked up to fan controller which runs all the fans at the same speed as the CPU fan. This solution only cost me 8$ for the fan controller and the price of the fans. It is all automatic and I don't need to actively change the speed of any of the fans. It runs at the minimum and nearly silent idle/light browsing and still remains fairly quiet gaming considering my OC'ed CPU and GPU. Here are the parts I used.
Here is the fan controller: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VNW556I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The CPU fan (best static pressure fan I've yet to find): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VYEI17U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
These excellent, cheap, quiet fans for the case: https://www.amazon.com/quiet-BL040-1000RPM-18-8DBA-Cooling/dp/B016XWZ56M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496727439&sr=8-1&keywords=be+quiet%21+PURE+WINGS+2+PWM+140mm+1000RPM+61CFM+18.8DBA+Cooling+Fan
I use one of these to control all 7 of my fans with PWM.
same idea but allows for controlling of the fans
get something like this
Don't get molex adapters for 3-4 pin fans, get a hub or a fan controller instead.
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
If you haven't already purchased that power supply and those case fans I suggest you just get a better power supply and ditch the overpriced case fans. You can always add some good ones later.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type | Item | Price |
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Power Supply | EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $92.61 @ B&H |
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Total | $92.61 | |
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If you have already made those purchases then get a fan hub.
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
This is the hub also, just to have that out there
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VNW556I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This was immensely helpful, thank you very much.
To comment on your points,
Very good to know about the fan controller. I suspected it wouldn't be able to power the fans. That seemed a little too easy. However, I will likely go for a 1 > 4 splitter so there is no wires that are unconnected. That would bother me.
Would something like that work for the 4 fans? Then I would use the CPU fan header for the 5th that was attached to the CPU cooler?
Also thanks for the heads up on Corsair PSU > Silverstone. I was actually already planning on that, but for some reason, Corsair SF6000 isn't showing up in PCPP right now, and I wanted a placeholder so I knew where I was at financially. So I will be getting the Corsair SF600 + ATX -> SFX adaptor.
In regards to the front panel/header, I was going off comments like this that I had read:
"Nice but USB headers 3.0 and 3.1 not a good combination with Fractal Nano S (3.0) and Corsair H80i v2(USB 2.0). Z170i is better if you are going with these two items."
"But you can't use the front USB right now because new 3.1 to 3.0 adapter is not yet available AFAIK."
So yeah it didn't make sense to me, but since I heard a few people mention something about it I just figured there was something I was missing.
Thanks for the heads up on the RGB header. So that is a header that is in place specifically 100% for people who want to add aftermarket RGB lighting, and they would plug it in to that header?
I will not be getting an NVME SSD, as of right now I am getting the 850 evo 500g. Shortly after I build my computer and get another paycheck I will likely go back and get the Crucial MX300 1TB M2, so lessen the wires and get a good bit more storage.
And noted on the amount of accessories. I am not really bound by specific budget. I could upgrade to the 1080ti and still keep everything else if I thought there were a legitimate reason to spend another 200$ on a GPU. I am getting a 27'' 1440p 144hz G Sync monitor, and from what I can tell the 1080 should handle that at high settings pretty easily If it can do that then I really don't need to dish out the extra money for a 1080ti imo.
Plus part about building a PC (for me at least) is the aesthetics. Having parts that you love, and love to look at. I will have an open window case, so I wanted to use parts that I liked and made the computer look good - without compromising on space. So after looking at every Define Nano S build on PCPP I decided the one I linked above best represents what I'm trying to do on a computer (both aesthetically speaking and performance wise).
Thanks for letting me know about the 3 main cables I'll need too. What does the 4+4 EPS CPU cable connect, and what does the 6+2 PCI-E cable connect?
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS
A fan controller/fan hub would be better. You can find cheaper ones than the NZXT.
Hey man, I think you're looking for something like this
Hope this helps you find what you're looking for.
A 3 pin header can plug into the 4 pin just fine.
Best solution: Buy one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VNW556I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Plug it into your header and both fans into the controller.
As a different note you could try a 1-to-2 splitter like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VNW556I/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_awdb_x_BLjOybBPF338A
They make different options from a single splitter to a fan hub
Where do I plug This into my mobo though? The name of the plug im not sure what it is
Have you considered an internal powered fan splitter?
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1485302798&sr=8-3&keywords=silverstone+fan+splitter
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
I believe NZXT also makes something like this. Just search for a 3pin fan hub.
Agreed 100%.
The one I use is this: Click me!
I had the same thing. It was easier to just use this.
BTW, would connecting four of my fans to this and then connecting that to a fan controller be a bad idea in terms of too much power usage for one cable?
> N headers are voltage controlled, the 4th pin isn't even connected t
Noted. So which of the following would you suggest then to connect and regulate 5 case fans
or
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00P2PNOJM/ref=twister_B00MAF5C4W?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
You can also use voltage control, it is not too bad. Check the review of the silent wings 3 from thermal bench for more information about the PWM issue.
About your concern about the parallel rad. Take a tube and fill it with water. Where is it more difficult to blow out the first few drops of water?
If you have it vertical it will become harder and harder to blow out the water as you need more pressure to counter the weight of the water on the other side of the tube, but at the beginning there won't be a difference. Same thing holds true for the radiator.
The only downside of the rads is that they have a high resistance. They outperform many thicker rads at low rpm^([1]). I personally don't like the look of thick rads, but to each their own. As the performance is not that mach different, you can go for looks.
If you look at the techpowerup review of the titan x, you can see how well it will perform under water. It can be overclocked around 20%^([2]) so an OC Titan X is about 40% faster than an OC GTX 1080. At 3440x1440, the titan x OC should get around 100fps in Witcher 3.
I also wouldn't worry about the temps of the motherboard.even with low rpm fans, you wqill have enough air that will get pushed over the heatsinks.
Well you have to know, it is 500€ for a motherboard. All you need is one fan header for the fans and a splitter like this:
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
I doubt that you need pwm for the pump, you can adjust the speed with the vario.
[1] http://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/11/radiator-round-2015/5/
[2] https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/Titan_X_Pascal/27.html
I believe something like this is what you are looking for: https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
I've added: this to the list.
If you have 4 pin fans and want to use the PWM function you would have to get a 4 pin fan hub.
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I
Is the one i used when I was using my 4 pin fans
You may need a fan hub. Something like this:
mine says one. I'm looking at this fan header. What thermal paste do you recommend?
I am using the the one linked below. I am running 8 of the fans you mention. You can check out my build at http://imgur.com/a/GMjVx. It is also up on r/pcmasterrace.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VNW556I/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I do, but aren't these 12 on Amazon?
do you really need more fans?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VNW556I/ref=twister_B00U8ND39E?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I have this SilverStone Technology All Black 1-to-8 PWM Fan Hub (CPF04) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VNW556I/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_NQq5wbZ6QPEVJ
Interested?
Is this a fine alternative? And do I just mount the splitter with some tape?
Consider using a pwm fan hub, like THIS ONE.
this should be perfect and not to expensive
been looking at buying one but havent gotten around to it yet
This is what I used in my build. It uses a sata port to power it and plugs into the fan header on the mobo.
The CPU doesn't affect performance much unless it starts to bottleneck your GPU. I don't think you'd be in danger of that whether you got a Haswell or a Skylake, but the skylake will do a little bit more, pound for pound. But like I said, the biggest reason it could help you is that it uses less power so it runs cooler naturally and is easier to keep cool. The only other situation to consider with it is that you'd have a little better upgradability with Skylake, since it uses the newer socket type. But honestly you'd be good with either choice.
As for motherboard wifi, it's a fairly uncommon feature and only something I'd pay extra for if you plan on being mobile (which you might be with your compact build, I don't know). Since mini ITX boards only have 1 PCI-E slot, you can't add an internal wireless adapter, so you'd have to get one built in. (Alternatively you could use a USB wireless adapter, depending on what your needs are--Internal adapters tend to have stronger connectivity at range). So in that case you do generally have to pay a little extra. An LGA1151 board with wifi is the MSI B150I GAMING PRO. There are 2 others on PCPartPicker with wifi that are cheaper than it, but they're ASRock boards and I've heard of a few bad experiences with them. You can look at reviews to see if you think they're worth it though.
As for DDR4 RAM, its not really that much better, they just have higher clock speeds mostly. Only people doing RAM intenstive things like hardcore simulations and parametric analysis really benefit from it in any meaningful way. Gaming doesn't stress RAM very much. So a year or two ago there was no reason to get DDR4 RAM, but now since its basically the same price as DDR3, its becoming the new standard--and is pretty much required for any LGA1151 board.
Also an addendum for the GPU, I saw the other user say that the R9 390 might have temperatures too high for a miniITX build and now that I go back and look at benchmarks, I think that might be true. It really depends on how many fans you're going to use (I'll talk about that in the next paragraph). So if you're really concerned about heat, the GTX 970 might be a better way to go. Look at some benchmarks with temps and decide for yourself, but I'll tell you that with my MSI GTX 970 being pushed to 99% usage in games and 4 case fans, it barely ever goes above 64C, which is pretty good. Again, see what you think from benchmarks.
Finally the fans. So mini ITX boards usually only have 2 fan headers: 1 for the CPU fan and 1 for a case fan, which is less than good. However that can be solved quite easily with something like the SilverStone 1-to-8 PWM Fan Hub, or a fan controller like you said, which generally use a SATA power connection to your PSU to power as many fans as you'd need. You can also get splitters for the fan headers on the mobo, but I would advise option #1 first, since it doesn't mess with the power being pushed to headers on the motherboard, which could potentially cause problems.
Whew, well hopefully that helps! Let me know if you have any other questions
NZXT has a few products that might be what you're looking for. If you're looking for something even cheaper, then there's this 8-way fan hub by SilverStone for $12.
I was looking at buying one of these for the same reason seem to have good reviews and everyone knows silverstone
Would you also recommend the Phantek HUB that another user mentioned earlier or possibly "future proofing" with this one from Amazon due to it having 4 pin connections instead of 3 and being cheaper than the one you listed previously.
Hmm it looks like it's 11.99 on amazon. Thanks though!
Thanks, that's what I kind of thought but wasn't sure.
Some follow up questions:
Which way should the new fans (red) blow? and should I reverse the pre-installed 120mm case fan? Annotated air movement.
I've got two molex, a floopy and two sata 3gbs connections available. So I use a 3 way splitter, an 8 way powered splitter off a sata cable or an 8 way powered off molex.
From what I think I've learned any of those three options would work, but wouldn't allow me to control individual fan speeds just all three "mirrored" as one 4 pin fan. And Since I'll never need more than 3 case fans the 3 way splitter makes the most sense?
Trying to plug 3 fans to one header will probably push it over the safe limit of 1 amp.
I'd recommend a fan hub like this - https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I/
This ^ a Y splitter would be your best bet, unless you plan on adding more any time in the future. Check out SilverStone's selections. 4 options here, from a Y splitter to a 8 port fan hub.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VNW556I/ref=twister_B00U8ND39E?_encoding=UTF8&th=1