Dude, I think your on to some thing if you get a SFX Power Supply With a bracket.
The specs on the PSU say that it includes a bracket for ATX compatibility. Whether that bracket is included in a prebuilt like this is another question.
If it doesn't come with the bracket, they're only $17 on Amazon.
I'm pretty sure they're all going to weigh roughly the same, especially if they're the same wattage. If one is lighter than another, it's probably due to a cheaper build quality.
I know it's too late now but you should've prioritized building an SFF PC and used a much smaller SFX psu. The good news is you can probably still use an SFX psu with a bracket.
You can also buy adapters so there’s no open space next to your PSU (not that it really matters aside from aesthetics). I recently put a SFX PSU in my H510 flow and bought this adapter:
SilverStone Technology Universal ATX to SFX Power Supply Adapter Bracket in Black Color PP08B https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BYB33J8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_88FT312P99XNBEEF7CFT?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
The vast majority of mATX and ATX cases use ATX sized PSUs, which are significantly larger than SFX sized ones. Either sell the SFX and buy an ATX sized one, or buy an adapter bracket like this
Adding a 92mm side fan is the easiest mod you can do, but in my case it only dropped 1-2°C. If you are using an ATX PSU, make the fan face the motherboard since most ATX PSU's have always on fans, and do help pull quite a bit of air.
If you're using an SFX PSU, see if you can get the Silverstone ATX-SFX adapter. With this you can lower the height of the PSU a bit and actually fit a 25mm thick 140mm fan between the top of the PSU and the case lid.. Have it spin slower than the intake and it actually does wonders in pulling out hot air. It would make your setup a negative pressure one. Use a 140mm fan in particular because a 120mm one will be pretty much covered by the PSU. I ran this setup for quite a while, but it meant using zipties, which meant maintenance was a pain.
These are pretty much your only easy options. Anything else requires you to do some major mods.
I have a custom loop in the Nano S but if you want to go air, you just need to swap to an SFX PSU and use a mounting plate adapter to keep it as close to the bottom of the case as possible. This will give you more clearance for your GPU.
Because the SFX PSU and ATX PSU are different sizes with different mounting holes, you need an adapter plate to mount it in a case that normally takes an ATX PSU.
That said the Nano S is a freaking awesome case for watercooling if you want to get started. It's not crazy small but that means you can fit a D5 pump and an actual reservoir in it, versus having to buy SFF-specific parts like pump-block combos and the like. You can fit 2x240 radiators in it, or a single 280mm radiator in the front and a 120mm radiator in the back.
Might be a stretch, but if you could find a SFX PSU, you might be able to fit a wider motherboard with an adapter like this: https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Universal-Adapter-Bracket/dp/B01BYB33J8 But I'm not sure it will give you enough space to fit the board in.
The Supermicro CSE 846 can handle the longer board though, if you use the stock PSU.
Usually 1000w+ PSUs are longer than less powerful ones, are you using something like that?
Height and width is standard for ATX PSUs.
If you really want to get a smaller PSU get one of these then buy an SFX sized one.
From what I understand the air 240 is designed for standard ATX PSUs but if you found the exact model of the Silverstone I'm sure PCPP would tell you if they're compatible. Depending on the dimensions of the PSU, you could also try something like this.
If the CX unit you have is the exact one you linked, it's a green label unit and it's known for being unstable and unreliable. There are updated grey label units that are much higher quality. If yours is a grey label I wouldn't worry about it. If it's a green label, I'd replace it. Even a low end EVGA B series would be much better for still around $30-50.
damn, well, i mean, as long as it works right? i had no idea about ATX and SFX when i bought it (super noob here, and its already at my house) i suppose i could buy this and it wont have this huge gap maybe ill upgrade to an sfx case in the future.
Just to add to the trouble of choosing, I'd throw the Cougar QBX (19.9 L) or the Sharkoon QB One (14.9 L) into the mix. Both are great cases that'll fit your parts perfectly.
For parts, this is what I'd get within your budget:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type | Item | Price |
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CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor | £196.00 @ Amazon UK |
Motherboard | ASRock - B450 GAMING-ITX/AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard | £116.94 @ More Computers |
Memory | Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | £136.79 @ Aria PC |
Video Card | Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card | Purchased For £0.00 |
Power Supply | Silverstone - 500W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply | £80.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk |
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts | ||
Total | £530.72 | |
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-19 13:11 BST+0100 |
CPU: Comes with a better cooler than the 2600 and it'll better boost clocks. Same price as the 8400 and a decent cooler, and much better value in my opinion.
RAM: Upped it to 16 GB and slightly faster RAM. It was within your budget and it's nice to have a bit of a buffer before maxing out your RAM. Also Ryzen benefits from dual channel RAM.
Case: I left the case open, as it's very much a personal thing. I'd personally get the Sharkoon QB One for around £50, but the Cougar QBX and Sugo SG13 are also great options.
PSU: Switched to a very decent SFX PSU. It'll allow you to switch to an even smaller case if you feel like it in the future. You might need a SFX to ATX bracket, but those are fairly cheap to come by.
I hope this helps, or at least serves as inspiration :)
SFX is compatible in that they use the same cables and pinouts for parts.
You may need a bracket to mount the PSU into the case if it doesn't have SFX mounting holes and cables on SFX units may not be long enough to reach or cleanly route to parts in your system, which facilitates the need for cable extensions.
Let's you use an sff psu (definitely recommended) https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Universal-Adapter-Bracket/dp/B01BYB33J8
The motherboard has WiFi.
Also, mount your psu so that it's used as an exhaust
Type | Item | Price |
---|---|---|
CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor | $174.99 @ Amazon |
CPU Cooler | Corsair H60 (2018) 57.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $79.98 @ Amazon |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard | $179.99 @ Amazon |
Memory | Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory | $74.94 @ Newegg |
Storage | Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $99.99 @ Newegg |
Storage | Western Digital Blue 6 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive | $129.99 @ Amazon |
Video Card | PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Red Dragon Video Card | $409.99 @ Amazon |
Case | Silverstone SG13 Mini ITX Tower Case | $57.99 @ B&H |
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS SGX 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply | $144.98 @ Newegg |
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts | ||
Total | $1352.84 | |
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-30 19:36 EDT-0400 |
You can use any generic ATX->SFX adapter, ex: https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Universal-Adapter-Bracket/dp/B01BYB33J8/
There are SFX to ATX PSU adapters out there. You’ll need to get one (maybe this or this, or print your own) to use an SFX PSU on an ATX case.
They make plates that can adapt an SFX power supply to fit in an ATX case, if you'd rather that.
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Universal-Adapter-Bracket/dp/B01BYB33J8
You'll need a back plate adapter.
Minor but if you ever want just a little bit more venting, here's my favorite ATX-to-SFX adapter; has holes: https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Universal-Adapter-Bracket/dp/B01BYB33J8
You appear to have run out of space or time to complete your post, but I will try to answer.
Why do you want a smaller computer (looks, air travel, car travel)?
The more you move your computer, the more important it is to be sure that the cables do not have slack to flop around. Zip ties can always solve the problem, but be sure all the parts are working before you put in the labor of zipping it all down.
More devices means more cables. A lot of people do not use the front panel audio on their ITX cases, as the back is close and often has a lower noise level. The SATA power and data cables are work to route and zip down, but they are current technology.
I have had no trouble with moving a ITX computer, other then having the SATA and USB 3.0 header cables come loose. It is easy to just open the case and push the connectors back down. If you have an unlimited budget, you could move to m.2 storage. Most users will not notice a speed upgrade from the SATA to a NVMe drive.
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As it appears you are buying the EVGA 750, instead get a SFX power supply and a ATX-to-SFX plate that moves the SFX power supply up. They sell these same plates from Kingwin for half the price at Fry's Electronics (southwest USA & online).
$4.20 ha ha Kingwin SFX to ATX Mount Black Vented Bracket
$60! it is on sale Corsair SF600 600w SFX 600w SFX Form Factor Fully Modular 80 Plus Gold
$10+ but you don't have to type your address again SilverStone-Technology-Universal-Adapter-Bracket
I think that you will be fine with a smaller power supply. With all systems, but particularly hard-to-build system, it is best to test everything on a cardboard box. This way you know all the parts work, and where all the wires will start and end. This makes stuffing it into the case much easier.
If you are not going to buy a power supply, you could get a low-profile cooler instead. It would be more work in the building and routing of wires, but you would spend less money.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type | Item | Price |
---|---|---|
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor | Purchased For $0.00 |
Motherboard | ASRock - B450 GAMING-ITX/AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard | $104.00 @ Newegg |
Memory | G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | Purchased For $0.00 |
Storage | Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | Purchased For $0.00 |
Storage | Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | Purchased For $0.00 |
Video Card | NVIDIA - GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card | Purchased For $0.00 |
Case | Silverstone - Sugo SG13B Mini ITX Tower Case | $50.50 @ B&H |
Power Supply | Corsair - SF 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply | $104.98 @ Amazon |
Total | $259.48 |
The SG13 is a good all-black small case. With the nice parts from your bro, you can get some baller parts. This has 32 GB of RAM, but you only need 16 GB. This has 3 TB of SSD storage, but your only need 1 TB (most people).
LTT reviews this $55 SFF case: SilverStone SG13 Computer Case - Small form factor with extreme versatility
Linus still uses the SG13 in his home gaming setup. He claims that it is where he does most of his gaming.
Type | Item | Price |
---|---|---|
CPU | Intel Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor | Purchased For $0.00 |
CPU Cooler | Noctua NH-L12S 55.44 CFM CPU Cooler | $49.90 @ Amazon |
Motherboard | *ASRock Z390M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard | $134.99 @ Amazon |
Memory | *G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $164.99 @ Newegg |
Storage | *HP EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $108.99 @ Newegg |
Storage | *Crucial MX500 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $223.48 @ Adorama |
Video Card | MSI GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB AERO Video Card | Purchased For $0.00 |
Case | Silverstone SG13 Mini ITX Tower Case | $57.99 @ B&H |
Power Supply | *Corsair SF 600 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply | $139.00 @ Newegg |
Case Fan | *Noctua NF-F12 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 109.89 CFM 120 mm Fan | $29.99 @ Newegg |
Total | $909.33 | |
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria |
You can ignore the "Compatibility: Warning!" that it shows. The standard ATX power supply would only allow 61 mm of CPU cooler clearance. With a SFX power supply in the ATX area, you should have 10+ more mm of clearance.
With the Silverstone brackets you have 83 mm of clearance according to "Tech Buyers Guru". The included Corsair bracket is closer to the center, but should still clear the 70 mm Noctua.
If you need more space under the power supply you can get a more off-center power supply bracket.
SFX adapter plate at Frys: https://www.frys.com/product/8809452
SFX adapter plate at Amazon: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01BYB33J8
You should still be able to use a SFX PSU if you really want to. Just get an ATX to SFX adapter bracket like this
If your budget will allow it, I'd recommend going SFX PSU. And pick up this as well:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139155 ($84 right now after rebate)
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Universal-Adapter-Bracket/dp/B01BYB33J8
Nothing that a $10 ATX to SFX bracket can't solve.
Correct, it doesn't come with an adapter bracket. I have the Silverstone bracket since I couldn't find where you could get the Corsair one in Canada.
Few things to consider:
2.50" x 4.92" or Approx 63.5 mm x 125 mm is the footprint of a SFX PSU 3.39" x 5.91" or Approx 86.1 mm x 150 mm is the footprint of a ATX PSU This leaves a difference of .89" or 22.6 mm
The AORUS GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti Xtreme Edition 11G is 55 mm thick being 15 mm thicker than a FE card which we already know can fit with a standard ATX PSU
Using this adapter You can place the SFX PSU as close to the bottom of the case as possible https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Universal-Adapter-Bracket/dp/B01BYB33J8
Here is a 800 watt SFX PSU which is the biggest I know https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Silent-Modular-SX700-LPT/dp/B01NALZ89C?th=1
Also there is room in this case for: 2 fans on the front, 1 fan on the bottom, 2 on the top, and 1 on the back so I would also recomend a fan hub like this one from Deepcool that would allow for fans all running at a given PWM setting https://www.amazon.com/DEEPCOOL-FH-10-Integrated-Occupying-Motherboard/dp/B077YHLDSP
I had already been planning this for some of my builds to give room for a standard dual slot card to breathe since the nano has a very limited space between the PSU and GPU. I would actually recommend this to anyone using a non FE card with this case as it will allow your card a better chance to cool properly.
If you are about to do this soon please get some Pics and share so others can see this too.
TLDR: YES
Check these out
SilverStone Technology Universal ATX to SFX Power Supply Adapter Bracket in Black Color PP08B https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BYB33J8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_0f87zbKM7EVJP
You'll probably need an SFX to ATX adapter to use the smaller PSU in that case: https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Universal-Adapter-Bracket/dp/B01BYB33J8
The SFX unit is already expensive and even more once you add in an adapter so you might want to switch to regular ATX which should be fine because you're using an all in one and all the SFX really would give you is more clearance above the CPU socket.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type | Item | Price |
---|---|---|
CPU | Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor | $322.39 @ OutletPC |
CPU Cooler | Corsair - H50 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $54.99 @ Newegg |
Motherboard | Asus - ROG STRIX Z270i GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard | $168.44 @ OutletPC |
Memory | Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory | $134.99 @ Amazon |
Video Card | EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card | $749.89 @ B&H |
Case | Silverstone - Sugo SG13B Mini ITX Tower Case | $39.99 @ Amazon |
Power Supply | SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $69.90 @ Newegg |
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts | ||
Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1560.59 | |
Mail-in rebates | -$20.00 | |
Total | $1540.59 | |
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-19 17:14 EDT-0400 |
Alrighty, go with my suggestion then if you want more basement room, get an SFX to ATX PSU adaptor then buy an SFX PSU, those have an overall smaller footprint.
Buy an sfx to atx bracket, else your psu will be held up with 2 screws.
Correct - but only b/c it's an SFX PSU in an ATX case.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BYB33J8/ this will solve that issue.
I don't know too much about the ncase but would this work for you?