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Along with 65rh Boveda bags. You don't even need a hyrometer. Just trust the Boveda, yet they are inexpensive.
Why not get a tuppedor? I bought a Sistema (sp?)off of Amazon and it works just fine with a boveda in it.
No. Not a sufficient seal. Just get a tupperdore as they work the best and are inexpensive.
This Tupperware container regularly goes on sale for $10. That plus some 69% Boveda packs and some empty cigar boxes to use for the Spanish cedar works great for less than $30.
I'd recommend getting a full box or a bundle of one cigar you really like and letting them sit, only smoking one every now and then, while you keep buying single sticks like you're doing now. You'll have your favorites aged before you know it.
Personally, I'm picking away at boxes of Papas Fritas, Liga Ratzillas, Romeo y Julieta Mille Fleurs, and Caldwell Long Live the King; with a rotating pile of singles.
Check out the basic dimensions of the box, that will help.
When they go down to $9.99 ea, these are the gold standard, typically anyway, for tupperdors. I assure you they do go down to $9.99 with prime, so be slightly patient. [link]
depends on the size of the tupperdor and how many cigars you plan on storing. Boveda says one for every 50 ish or so in a plastic containter but if you use 2 its not going to hurt anything. Which one do you use? I know a ton of people on here, myself included, use the Sistema from Amazon. Get a hygrometer ASAP and since you are buying a cedar tray you will want to season it just a little bit. Wipe it down a couple of times with distilled water but it shouldn't be soaking wet just a little water will do. You don't really need the tray but it does look better
Oh, right! The kind used for coffee grounds and like that! Good thinking!
I accidental found some bins that seem pretty highly regarded by cigar aficionados as DIY humidors, so fingers crossed that means they'll have a good seal on them. Seems like they have a nice flat base, at least.
This Sistema is the main piece, and if you look in the “people also bought”/“buy these together” section of the above page, it should show you cedar trays and a hygrometer, etc. I just checked, and the trays look to be the same ones I purchased, but the hygrometer is different - mine is round.
The Sistema KLIP-IT on Amazon are really popular for Tupps, I have four of these. Kind of like a large shoe box. Really easy to stack. Each hold three boxes and a bunch of single or five packs. Once you have the humidity where you want it the 60g Boveda holds it rock steady.
I like these because they are clear and made of non-BPA food grade plastic. Def worth the $$. I just use my regular humidor as a dry-box now with a 62% Bov.
If I were you I would cancel that order and just get a tuppeware container and some 65% boveda packs, pretty much effortless to maintain and no need to season it
Chances are great your freebee humidor won't hold humidity well so we always recommend a tupperdore. Add a few Boveda 65rh bags and be done with it.
Drinks: Root Bear, Coke, Arnold Palmer, Ice Tea, Lemonade, Soda water with lime, etc.
No worries. Also to step up your storage game:
Sistema KLIP IT Rectangular Collection Food Storage Container,236 Oz
I have a few of these as my “back room” storage for cigars I’m not currently rotating through. Just gotta remember to pop them open here and there to let air circulate (about once a week).
7l humidor. Holds up to 100 cigars. Cheaper than Ferrero rocket. Airtight.
I have 3 of them.
I just bought another plastic bin for this, even though I have two nice wood ones. I find the tupperdor superior for maintaining proper humidity over time, with less hassle. I got this one and two ceder trays to organize it. [link]
Like the other commenter said, tupperware containers provide very good seals. You want one with a gasket.
Sistema KLIP IT Rectangular Collection Food Storage Container,236 Oz [link] are pretty popular and they almost exactly fit two spanish cedar trays that yoi can also find on Amazon. The trays arent required, but look and smell nice.
Boveda packs are little packets that absorb or release moisture to bring the air to its stated humidity level. They are very widely used in humidors, especially tuperware. A 65% pack or two and you're good to go.
For like 20-30 bucks you can have a setup that will preserve cigars for years. Just keep it in a cool area of your house like the basement. I think 65-70 degrees is ideal.
Hygrometers will report the temp and humidty. You can get an electronic one off amazon for like 10 dollars. Its not required as I've never heard a boveda pack failing.
Get a food grade tupperdor for no plastic smell and a large space.
I got this one [link]
Its large enough for Amazon's standard Spanish cedar trays as well if your so inclined. I have 90 or so cigars in there and humidity is held perfectly where I want it.
This one: [link]
Not sure why that link is so long. Based on what I have in it now, it looks like it will hold about 64 6 inch by 52 ring cigars.
Amazon is your friend. Find cedar shelves and there is Tupperware that will fit two shelves perfectly. Boveda packs and digital hygrometer and ur good to go. Woods pretty, plastic is efficient. Sistema
Sistema KLIP IT Rectangular Collection Food Storage Container,236 Oz [link]
See the frequently bought together part.
It’s all you really need. Just maintain temperature and the container and packs do the rest.
You may need to go non traditional and get a ziplock box or something with a rubber gasket seal. These keep good humidity especially in such a dry climate.
I have the same one and used aquarium sealer on all the joints and glass seams seems to help
Seriously though the best thing I did was buy this with the recommended cedar tray, wooden humidors look great but not always viable especially in dry climates or in winter
Sistema 1870 Klip It Collection Rectangle Food Storage Container, 236 Ounce [link]
200 seems very optimistic. The Sistema 1870 is 14" x 15" x 5" or 700 cubic inches, which is roughly the same size as your humidor. At best I can fit 80 cigars in it.
Can you double-check your dimensions?
This Sistema is popular here. I've got a few of them myself and they work quite well. A bit pricey on Amazon right now. I got mine close to $13. If you have a Target near you, they have free shipping to store a lot of the time and they're usually $13.99 there.
Are you using that built-in analog hygrometer? If so, get a digital one and calibrate it (can use a boveda calibration kit for this). Analog ones are horrendously inaccurate.
Secondly, because it's a glass top, there's a lot of chances that the air can escape between the cracks. Get some aquarium sealant and seal around the glass on the inside
Get rid of the puck and get yourself some Boveda 69% packs instead. They work two-way meaning they can let out moisture if needed, or absorb it if the environment is too wet. The puck only adds humidity indiscriminately so it can easily over-humidfy your setup (and with the analog hygrometer you might be well over 70%).
Finally, if you want the tried-and-true reddit method, grab yourself the largest sistema tupperware and toss in a boveda pack and hygrometer. Works everytime, though it's not as pretty.
It can't hurt to wipe them down a little bit. Do not go overboard though. You are still going to want to use a hygrometer to make sure the RH isn't too high after seasoning the trays inside the tupperware
A good cleaning out with baking soda and some distilled water will get out any plastic smell. I also used a Systema from Amazon and just wiped it out and it was good to go. Have now switched to a wineador. Watch out. You think you wont do it but you will
I second this statement. The other thing you can do is buy an airtight tupperware container like this one to store the other cigars in. I would get a 65% boveda pack to drop in their with it. Seasoning the humidor should take somewhere between 10-14 days if you do it right
I just bought these, click on the 7L one. They are a great size(14" x 9-3/8" x 4-3/4" h) and seal well. I really like that they have straight edges instead of sloping inward.
I'm in the transition from humidors to tupperdores. I'm having some trepidation though, the humidors smell so nice and look awesome and seal pretty well, but I'm tired of the fluctuations I see. Who knows, I have one of them re-seasoning right now in case I want to go back.
Lets start before Cubans, and I'll assume you know nothing about cigars and just start from the beginning.
Okay, as far as humidors go, there are a bunch of options. The quickest and easiest way is to buy a tupperware container that seals well and a few boveda packets (you can get either on amazon). I'd recommend 65% if you're using a "tupperdor" (69% for a wooden humidor...of course depending on the climate where you live etc...). Rough rule of thumb is to use one 60 gram packets for every 25 cigars the container can fit. We'll get more into wood humidors later.
The next thing you'll want to have is a digital hygrometer. You can snag one for 15-20 bucks on amazon. If you're using multiple tupperdors, I wouldn't worry about having one in each, just switch the meter to a different container every week or so to make sure they're staying good. With boveda packets, you shouldn't have a problem. Anyway, when you get your hygrometer, you want to calibrate it. The packaging or instructions may say that it is calibrated at the factory and does not need to be tested. Ignore that. Get a bottle cap, fill it about 2/3 up with table salt, and a few drops of water. Put the cap in an airtight container (a zip lock bag will do) with the hygrometer. Wait a day, and see what the hygrometer says. If it says 75%, you're good. If it doesn't, adjust it until it does, and then leave it in the bag a few more hours to make sure it stays there. You will find that you may develop your own preference for the Relative Humidity (RH) of your cigars, but it your container is reading in the mid sixties to the low seventies, you're around where you want to be. Keep an eye on the temperature, too. I like to keep mine below 70 degrees F. If they get into the high seventies, your cigars may literally begin hatching beetles.
Now onto wooden humidors: these are much more of a pain in the ass than tupperdors, in terms of setting it up. As far as a specific model, there are a ton and it depends on too many things to specify from the information you gave. Personally, I'd recommend a humidor that can hold more cigars than you plan on needing. My first humidor holds fifty cigars. I now have another 25 count (although, that was free and I didn't need it until I figured "fuck it, might as well fill it"), a 100 count, and two tupperdors. So as far as picking one out, I'd recommend again going bigger than you think you need, make sure it is at least lined with spanish cedar, and just check reviews to see how it seals. Every humidor will have bad reviews because a lot of people don't know how to season them, so look for reviews from people who seem to know what they're doing. And I'd personally stay away from anything with a glass top, it's just another place it can lose a seal.
Speaking of seasoning, you have to season a wooden humidor, which means to sort of saturate the wood to the correct humidity level. If you don't, the wood will eat up the humidity being released by your humidifying thingamajig instead of it being all for your sticks. There's a couple ways to do this: you can get distilled water (or a premade solution of distilled water and propylene glycol, it really doesn't matter) and wipe the wood down with it, with a barely damp cloth or sponge. If you get the wood too wet, it will warp and the humidor won't seal. Then leave a bowl or shot glass filled with the distilled water in the humidor and let it sit a few days. Note that the water being distilled is not optional, do not use any other water, no tap, no spring water. Only distilled water. You want nothing in the humidor except spanish cedar, cigars, and moisture.
The easier way to season a humidor is to buy boveda seasoning packets. They regulate the environment in the humidor to 84%. Buy the same amount you'd need if they were regular bovedas, one per 25 cigar capacity. Put them in the humidor, close the humidor, come back 14 days later and take the packets out. Replace them with (I'd recommend) 69% packets. Put cigars in over the course of a few days (you don't want to add them all at once, it will swing RH levels).
I'd recommend this for a tupperdor, in the largest size:
I have this humidor, I like it:
I also have this smaller humidor which I'm still seasoning, but it seems to seal well enough:
Packets to regulate RH (pick whatever RH you'd prefer, I like 69 for wood and 65 for tupperdor):
Distilled water/propylene glycol if you want to go that route:
Hygrometer (I like round ones because a lot of humidors will have a cutout for the shitty analog hygro they all come with and the round ones will fit there):
Someone let me know if I missed anything.
Edit: I didn't mention beads, the "soak this weird thing in distilled water" humidifier or kitty litter because I really don't think there's a good reason to steer someone towards them, but I really haven't ever used any of it so if someone wants to add something about those, please do.
This container + this tray for less than $35. The container can hold 2 trays stacked if you want it to.
Buy this and this and you're all set.
Would you consider a Tupperdor?
Sistema 1870: $20
Boveda Packs: $17
Digital Hygrometer: HygroSet II - $14 or Caliber IV - $24
Spanish Cedar Trays: $13
Welcome to the sub! I see you've chosen a great cigar for your first box. Partagas Serie D #4 is very good and of course, resting them for a while is recommended. Here is an article to explain why.
Wood Humidors are used worldwide and custom humidor is good too, but make sure there the seal is tight enough to hold the humidity within the box and it should be made out of Spanish Cedar. Few helpful tips worth reading or seeing. You will need Boveda to maintain the RH(humidity) and do not depend on the small humidification device that comes with most wood humidors. They won't' work.
As u/AButteryPancake mentioned, tupperdor (Tupperware + humidor) may be the best low cost option. Amazon Link for Sistema air-tight and Boveda 69, but this may not work if you want to store the cigars with the cigar box, so you may have to take them out of the box and put them in Spanish cedar trays or any plastic trays that will fit in the Sistema. If you want to store the Cigars in original boxes, I think Coolidor (Cooler + Humidor) is your best option and actually, it works much better than tupperdor IMO. Since it has better insulation all-around.
RH is your personal preference when it comes to Non-Cubans, anywhere between 65-69 is fine but for cubans, the RH needs to be below 65 or 65. More RH will lead to beetle problems.
EDIT: u/thirdguess is right about 62% Boveda if you live in super-humid climate.
Sistema 1870: $20 - [link]
Cedar Trays: $13 each - [link]
Boveda Packs 65%: $17 - [link]
Digital Hydrometer: $24 - [link]
The above will cost $87. With Amazon Prime, you will have it all on Tuesday. If you want to save a little money, you can skip on the Cedar Trays or only get one for now and another one later.
This setup is very low maintenance and will last you for a long time. It will cost a little bit more then most Desktop Homidors you see online (but not much), but overall it will outperform a Desktop Humidor.
Tupperdor. Can be any size you like pretty much. They cedar trays are completely optional.
Sistema 1870 Klip It Collection Rectangle Food Storage Container, 232 Ounce [link]
Boveda 65% RH 2-Way Humidity Control for Cubans, Oily Wrapper Cigars & Wooden Humidors, 4 Count 60-Gram Packets (Humidifier/Dehumidifier)-by Boveda Inc [link]
Then add a hygrometer like this:
Cigar Oasis Caliber IV Digital Hygromter by Western Humidor [link]
If you want trays, I like these and two of them fit with room to spare around the sides for your bovidas and hygrometer.
F.e.s.s. Fess Storage versatility Cedar Tray with Adjustable Divider [link]
Store in a cool part of the house. Done.
Here's my advice since I literally just started a few weeks ago. This is exactly what I wished I knew before I spent money on random cigars from various sites.
Depending on how many sticks you plan on getting at a time, invest in a tuppedor. Don't waste your time with a wooden humidor (at least right now). I picked up these from amazon and all my ~40-50 sticks sit comfortably in there.
If you have a nice brick and mortar tobacco store (not a hole in the wall place that caters only to e-cigs and accessories) near you, visit them and ask questions. If they are worth their salt, they should be fairly knowledgeable about cigars. They will point you in the right direction. I stupidly didn't do this and just kind of bought random shit online and have had mixed results with what I bought. The stuff I've bought at the store has been much, much fresher too. However, you will be spending 30-40% above what you'll pay online. I found it worth it for how much time and effort the staff spent helping me, but it is quite a bit more expensive.
If that's not an option, look for sampler packs online. You can find cheap options that include a bunch of different sticks so you can sample a variety. I would suggest looking at smallbatch mixes find a price you're comfortable with spending (30 to 40 should be plenty, maybe buy 2 of the $30 to $40 packs so you end with ~10 cigars) and in the comment section of your order mention that you're brand new to cigars. He should be able to make an excellent mix for a new smoker. Use code "rcigars" for 10% off (without the "", not sure if valid for the mix).
Also, if you don't come from a background of smoking cigarettes, stick with the mild to medium strength cigars. I smoked a few full strength ones from the samplers I got and they kicked my ass. It was unpleasant to say the least. If you DO plan on smoking a full strength cigar, smoke on a full stomach and drink something sweet with it. Sweet tea or a pop of some sort works well to quell the nicotine content.
Accessories. All you really need is a decent cutter and a torch lighter and you're all set.
If you do find a cigar you enjoy, try buying a 5 pack of it. Let it rest for a week or so and try them out over the course of a month or several months and see if you enjoy them as much as you did the first time. See if they get better with age. I have far too many 1 offs that I enjoyed, but would I still enjoy them a month from now? 2 months from now?
Oh, and generally stay away from infused cigars. They use shittier tobacco since they can mask it with flavors. The girlfriend still likes these, but I think she's starting to come around to a natural sweetness/chocolate taste instead of an artificially infused one. Plus they stink up your humidor and can potentially ruin the taste of your other cigars in them if they are in close contact.
Online sites that I've enjoyed purchasing from and ship quickly:
Look up retrohaling. You'll taste more of your cigar this way. Warning, it does burn the hell out of your nose the first handful of times you do it. Start with a mild cigar instead of a full strength one like I stupidly decided to do. :P
Hopefully this helps.
Edit: Many edits to fix errors and add additional info.
Go for a Tupperdor instead of the Humidor - a lot easier to maintain.
Sistema Klip It tupperware container from Amazon is a perfect size.. If you want better organization, you can pair it with a Spanish Cedar Tray - it fits right inside. Get some Boveda Packs (65% or 69%) and a good hygrometer (I recommend a digital one) and you're all set.
Tupperware and trays, you can also get bovedas from Amazon or most places that sell cigars.
The pupperdor is a gofund business with the following timeline "As we start to approach our fixed goal - production will begin!" They are currently at 3.6% so would be faster to buy your own parts.
Get yourself this: [link]
And this: [link]
Throw your boveda in the Tupperware directly with your cigars and you’ll be good to go
Seriously- simpler is easier, especially if you're new to cigars. Go to Amazon, get a Sistema box, a Spanish cedar tray, and a couple of 65% Boveda packs. Those packs will last a year in that box.
Not sexy, but very functional. And if cigars end up not being your thing, you have an awesome tupperware box for lettuce or whatnot.
And don't buy GME.
This right here works great. I'm ~~not~~ now using a mixture of of a couple of containers off amazon and I just rinse them out with some baking soda with a little water then let them air out a bit.
I'm using these and these and they both work great. I really like the little ones for singles because it's a perfect shape.
Search "Tupperdor" on Amazon. Should get a few hits.
This Sistema Tupperware Box fits two of these Cedar Trays
Add a Hygrometer and some Boveda Packs and you're good to go...
If you care about quality over looks, get one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Sistema-Microwave-Collection-Noodle-31-7oz/dp/B00284AG5U/
One of these: https://www.amazon.com/Mantello-Spanish-Adjustable-Divider-Humidors/dp/B079V3KYT7
One of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0733TYGWX
Season the cedar trays by patting with distilled water and put them in the Sistema container with the Mantello tray on top of the F.e.s.s. container. After 8-12 hours or so, pat them with distilled water once again and let it sit for another 8-12 hours. Add two or three 62% Bovedas and a digital Hygrometer. When it's at a constant 62% add your cigars.
It was on sale for $10. It's $15 now, still not bad though. It has a rubber seal so it holds humidity perfect.
amazon says folks buy this a lot for cigars.
along with this
thats for a tupperador
obv buy which ever size fits your need.
Two of these trays can fit stacked on top of each other.
Mantello Spanish Cedar Cigar... [link]
I'm a daily/every-other day enjoyer of cigars and I ditched my humidor for spanish cedar trays inside Sistema KlipIt containers that I bought off of Amazon. You can use anything as long as it meets a couple of criteria
Toss in Boveda packs and they will hold almost indefinitely. Toss in more than you need for a literally zero-maintenance solution. I have the 236oz https://www.amazon.com/Sistema-Microwave-Collection-Noodle-31-7oz/dp/B00284AG5U packed to the gills (one with singles, one with packs & boxes) both with 3 65% packs (size 60, for quick recovery) and I don't think I've had to change one in a year.
Alternatively, you can use a boveda bag. They're just thicker ziplock bags with a better zipper seal
I would NOT use an acrylic/glass jar UNLESS you keep it on it's side. Standing the jar up causes all of the weight of the cigar to be pressed onto the narrower end of the stick (mouth or foot) and will cause splitting over time.
Check out this post of mine. $7 at Walmart and will hold 20-25 sticks depending on size. If you need more space later, you can order this container and this cedar tray both from Amazon.
When I was looking for tupperware on amazon this showed up with the cedar tray often purchased with it. About 30 cigars in it now, guessing it will hold 60 to 100 depending on width. Cost me $27.
Buy this tupperware or find something similar and then go to your local B&M and buy a couple of 65% Boveda Packs and stick them in there and you are good to go. You have an inexpensive humidor. Also you could always "borrow" one from your mom or whoever as long as it has an airtight seal it will work. The boveda packs are easy and relatively cheap. Here is a 4 pack from Amazon that you could buy at the same time as the above tupperware if you can't "borrow" someones
I'll answer these to the best of my abilities:
Here's what I use. Saw some recommendations here, and skimmed the Amazon reviews to see lots of people using this setup too.
Spanish Cedar Trays [link]
And two 65% Bovedas
This setup will easily hold 50+ cigars. You can fit two of the trays, and the Bovedas fit on each end. I haven't had more than 27 cigars at a time in it yet, but they all fit in the top tray along with my hydrometer with some room for a few more. Right now, the bottom tray has air packets to help regulate humidity by reducing empty space.
Here's a pic: [link]
This is what I did, and now use for new sticks:
amazon Sistema 1870 then if you want trays Trays 2 will fit inside. Then a pack of Boveda's and while you are at it grab a Hygrometer another option.
So about $50 then another 12 to 24 if you add the trays.
Setup The Boveda's fit between the sides of the trays and the container.
I put up a post last week about mine. If you search "My Cigar Tupperdore - Pictures" you can see it in progress. I put the details below.
I know there are guides on YouTube and other online locations, but I thought I would share my recent setup. I used many of those guides and will include some in the links below. I added this per a member’s request and as a means to have one location for others to gather data. There are plenty of other options and I am by no means an expert. This is merely a guide as to my process to this point. I did this as a temporary solution until I can find a nice humidor.
I am by no means an expert, but I hope this helps. If anyone else have tips please feel free to share them.
1. Get a container with a good seal and preferably latches to lock on the lid. I used the Sistema container but many others are available. Wash at least once with dish soap and water. I washed mine three times and let sit overnight to dry. (Component link below) - $13.99 each
2. A Hygrometer is a good option to measure your temperature and humidity. I selected the Cigar Oasis Caliber IV Digital Hygrometer by Western Humidor (Component link below) - $23.99 each.
2a. It is recommended to calibrate any Hygrometer before using. This is sometimes called a “Salt Test.” Fill a small water bottle capo with table salt. Put some drops of Distilled Water (Always use distilled water) until the salt is wet but not soaked. Put cap and Hygrometer into a sealed bag and wait overnight. The next day the reading should be 75% humidity. If not follow instructions to adjust. (Detailed video link below). Mine was fine out of the box even after the test.
3. Cedar Shelves are optional but I decided to add one (possibly another later). Using a clean cloth or new sponge, wipe entire cedar shelf with distilled water. Do not make it dripping wet but a good once-over. Make sure to use distilled water only. This is prepping the wood so it does not rob your hydration device during “Seasoning.” (Component link below) - $15.50 each.
4. Put cedar shelf inside container. Then add hygrometer and something to add humidity. I used a Boveda pack and some damp paper towels using Distilled Water. You could also use a damp sponge (or paper towel) with distilled water if available. I also put a layer of plastic so nothing was spilled inside the container or on the shelf. Seal the container and let sit for about 24 hours. The numbers should get high as the humidity is absorbed into the cedar shelf. I used a 320 gram Boveda pack but you could certainly use something smaller, and take it out of the cardboard if you prefer. (Component link below) - $22.99 each.
5. After 24 hours remove the sponge or paper towel, and let sit for another 24 hours (I am at this stage).
6. At this point the humidity should be relatively stable. Add some cigars. The humidity should change as it adjusts to the new additions. Monitor your hygrometer accordingly.
7. Approximately once a week open to allow outside air in to recirculate for a minute or so.
Container - Sistema KLIP IT Rectangular Collection Food Storage Container,236 Oz
Boveda for Cigars/Tobacco | 69% RH 2-Way Humidity Control | Size 320 for Use with Up to 100 Cigars | Patented Technology for Cigar Humidors | 1-Count
Cigar Oasis Caliber IV Digital Hygrometer by Western Humidor - Highest rated digital hygrometer for the cigar industry
Spanish Cedar Tray Cigar Tray, Adjustable Divider, Fits Large Humidors, Made with Solid Spanish Cedar, Dimensions 12 7/8" X 7 1/2" x 2 1/3"
How to make a cigar Tupperdore links:
How to calibrate a Hygrometer (Salt Test) Video
Any Tupperware with a seal and a boveda pack or two. Can do this for around $30.
This is what I use:
This is a fairly large setup as it fits around 75 cigars, so you can go with a smaller Tupperware.
It's not the prettiest setup but it is the lowest maintenance especially for someone just getting into cigars (I'm a relative newbie myself).
Someone else would probably be of more help with the nicer cigars, but Davidoff is a great cigar maker for a special occasion cigar.
I bought this one from Amazon for $10 at the time and it can hold 100 cigars. No brainer imo
squished. thats probably the main reason.
but you know.. youre spending 6-20 bucks per cigar. might as well just spend the $15 and get a tupperdor
You may have a bad seal that's causing the problem. If you are worried about ruining your cigars I would buy a tupperdor and some boveda packs from amazon. The tupperdor holds a great seal and not much work is needed just put in cigars and throw in a boveda pack and you are good to go. If you are worried about your cigars until you get the tupperdor shipped just put your cigars in a ziploc bag and buy a boveda pack from your local b&m and you should be fine till you get the tupperdor in.
I would use the sistema with the picture of the apples on it. You can order it from amazon for 9.99
Yup, great way to go. I just purchased these-the 7L size and I'm liking it. Its another option that's just a little larger(14" x 9-3/8" x 4-3/4" h)
I'm basically doing this...
There's a suggested box + cedar tray + boveda. Just get 65% boveda
Seconding what /u/bcbuzzards said .
Go this route...
(1) Sistema KLIP IT Rectangular Collection Food Storage Container.
(1 or 2) Mantello Spanish Cedar Cigar Tray
(1) Boveda bag in your preferred humidity.
Opt (1) Small hydrometer.
Welcome to the hobby and congrats on the job offer. Your budget is totally fine to get some storage and a few smokes to get started.
I recommend getting a tupperdor (tupperware with a boveda humidification pack) and a few 5 packs of smokes.
Or anything with an air tight rubber seal and locking mechanism. And also:
Boveda for Cigars/Tobacco | 65% RH 2-Way Humidity Control | Size 8 for Use with Up to 5 Cigars | Patented Technology For Cigar Humidors | 10-Count Resealable Bag [link]
That’s about $35-40 and your storage is all set.
Check the wiki for some recommendations on cigars and spend the remaining $100 on 2 maybe 3, 5 packs and you’re set.
buy the frequently bought together.
thats what a lot of folks are running.
Ive got one of those
one of these
and i have this for travel now
Tupperdor - air tight plastic container. Sistema KLIP IT Rectangular Collection Food Storage Container,236 Oz [link]
Boveda packs to maintain humidity - Boveda for Cigars/Tobacco | 69% RH 2-Way Humidity Control | Size 60 for Use with Every 25 Cigars a Humidor Can Hold | Patented Technology For Cigar Humidors | 4-Count Resealable Bag [link]
A cigar sampler (make sure to use a discount code if applicable- go to Wiki page to view those)
Or one of these: [link]
Read - CigarDojo, Halfwheel, CigarAficionado, Kohnhed, etc
They can’t climb or fly so unless your walls are just to low then you won’t have a problem. When I first had them I put them in to small of a container and had some escape, but they died fairly quickly. I’d keep them in a tub with some holes drilled in the top or just leave the top off Sistema KLIP IT Rectangular Collection Food Storage Container,236 Oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00284AG5U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_52M528Z8T3FVPMSK39SW?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Sistema KLIP IT Rectangular Collection Food Storage Container,236 Oz
By the frequently bought together.
And this to season
Klipit on sale through Amazon
Using this tupperware: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00284AG5U?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
2 of these trays: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079V3KYT7?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
This hygrometer: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QC7JRDP?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
And 65% Boveda's.
These are great!
I’m up to 4 of these: Sistema KLIP IT Rectangular Collection Food Storage Container,236 Oz [link]
I don’t know how to stop! :(
And then 4 60g 65% RH Boveda’s (should be able to find a four pack of them on Amazon). Might be overkill but it’s better to have to many than not enough. The trays you don’t have to have but I liked them for organizational purposes.
Doubled that list to make a second one. One for cheaper, easier to find sticks. And one for special occasion smokes so I don’t have to open it too much.
Won’t let me message you directly for some reason. Here is my list though.
And a four pack of Boveda 65% RH
Get this. That YoO box fits perfectly inside.
Electric humidor helps to handle temperature co troll but you will usually have to provide some form of humidity control. I never used one myself so not sure how sealed it is.
A nice desktop humidor could be a nice decorative piece for your room but unless you spend money for a quality one you will find humidity control to be challenging—meaning cheap humidors leak humidity too easily.
If you want the best bang for your buck and don’t care about showing it off, I would start with an airtight plastic container. Throw some Boveda packs in there with your cigars and you have a real easy stable humidor.
Wooden tray that fits in it.
i agree with CriticalFrimmel 100%
a lot of people like this container as well:
Sistema KLIP IT Rectangular Collection Food Storage Container,236 Oz
Learn more: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00284AG5U/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_PG14FbWWWCND2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
if you want something even more stout - i got a great deal on a few Herfador x40 travel humidors and moved some of mine to one of those.
these can also be had at Harbor Freight for a good price: https://www.harborfreight.com/3800-weatherproof-protective-case-large-black-63927.html
lots of options out there other than the traditional wooden desktop humidor.
I have two Sistema Tupperdors with two cedar trays in each one, along with either a 62% or 65% Boveda, whichever I have handy. They last forever.
For box storage, I have a coleman cooler with cedar shelves, and I use a pound of 65% Heartfelt beads. I also have a wine cooler ("wineador") that I don't even plug in any more--it just holds RH really nicely and stores a lot of boxes. It, too, has about a pound or two of Heartfelt beads.
With the beads, I find I don't have to do anything to them in the spring, summer, and fall, but I do need to add some distilled water every few weeks from December to about April.
I find the idea of a fancy humidor is a waste of money. If you've got serious coin and a showplace house then go for it. But if you're just a regular joe who values the preservation of your sticks over appearance then you can't beat the tupperdors or coolerdors. The problem I find with dedicated nice-looking humidors is that they simply don't seal all that well, nor do people take the time to season them correctly or maintain humidity levels correctly. I've owned several in my years of smoking and I gave up on the whole idea.
i've had sticks taste like that too! not these but other ones. just guessing it's the way they were stored before i got them, because after about 2 months in my humidor they lose that floral taste.
do you ever get some with that faint taste like an unlit match heads? it's usually comes from sticks with nicaraguan fillers for me. i prefer the match taste over the floral ones.
*my humidor is really a tupperdor with spanish cedar trays in it. (2 trays per box)
Below is a common Tupperdor setup with links to Amazon and holds around 80 cigars.
- Check locally, Target might have this for less.
Boveda Packs: $17 - [link]
- Choose the pack that is right for you. Personally I like 65%. Also if you go with a different size container, you might need to adjust how many packs you get.
- Any correctly callibrated digital hydrometer will work.
Spanish Cedar Trays: $13 - [link]
- Plastic trays will also work.
- If you choose a different container, make sure the trays fit.
I think this is the one you’re talking about:
Sistema 1870 Klip It Collection Rectangle Food Storage Container, 232 Ounce [link]
It’s highly regarded on reddit haha. It’s definitely a great choice. I actually bought it and cedar trays (linked below) to be my set up. These cedar shelves are a perfect fit inside too! 2 can stack and fit like a glove. Unfortunately my apt is always outrageously warm so I had to get a wineador.
Shelves on amazon:
Spanish Cedar Cigar Tray, Adjustable Divider, Fits Large Humidors, Made with Solid Spanish Cedar, by Quality Importers [link]
If you use the Systema, these cedar trays fit right in. At $13.99 on Amazon it's not worth the effort to make unless you like woodwork!
Woood humidors are nice to look at but maybe you should try a tupperdor.
Scroll down to the "frequently bought together". That's the setup I have.
I was concerned that I had to keep things really, really stable temp wise. I can definitely find a dark spot in the house that will hold mid 60s within a few degrees year round, I was just worried because nowhere in my house holds an even temperature. If the temperature isn't staying where I want it to, that can definitely be the next step.
That's my next question. This is bigger and cheaper than the largest Brilliance that I can find on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Sistema-Microwave-Collection-Noodle-31-7oz/dp/B00284AG5U/
Any thoughts on that vs. the Brilliance?
As for that last bit, I figured, but I need to be careful with that. Thank you for the help!
Get these from Amazon.
As you can see, I like them a bit. Over 1,000 sticks in that pic.
A cooler if you have the space, if not a large Tupperware container like this one
Sistema KLIP IT Rectangular... [link]
Get one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Sistema-Microwave-Collection-Noodle-31-7oz/dp/B00284AG5U/
Season the cedar trays by patting with distilled water and put them in the Sistema container with the Mantello tray on top of the F.e.s.s. container. After 8-12 hours or so, pat them with distilled water once again and let it sit for another 8-12 hours. Add two or three 65% Bovedas and a digital Hygrometer. When it's at a constant 65% add your cigars.
If you need something bigger, these weathertight totes work well: https://www.containerstore.com/s/storage/garage-storage-totes/clear-weathertight-totes/12d?productId=10026213
If you don't know that you want a box of such-and-such cigars then buying the entire box might not be the best idea. If you're going to buy twenty or twenty-five of something even ten of something it is best to be sure it is a cigar you enjoy or that is some sort of rare thing that is very very hard to get and thus "collectible" and that stuff is crazy expensive.
If you are buying more cigars than say you'll smoke over the weekend, you will need some sort of storage. Easy-peasey is the "tupperdor." Rubbermaid Brilliance in 9.6 cup (20-30 cigars), Sistema Klipit in 236 Oz (considerably more than the Rubbermaid and there are cedar trays available that will fit probably shown in the "bought together list": https://www.amazon.com/Sistema-Microwave-Collection-Noodle-31-7oz/dp/B00284AG5U/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2836T3V63VOA3&dchild=1&keywords=sistema+food+storage+containers&qid=1599748865&sprefix=siste%2Caps%2C156&sr=8-5) are typical tupperdor recommendations. Airtight container with a gasket lid that latches more generally.
Boveda humidity packs in 65% or 69% at a rate of 60g per 25 cigars of capacity. (Boveda come in three sizes- 8g; 60g; 320g.) Do not mix rH levels. Do not mix humidity devices. Better to have a bit more than you need than to have too few.
Sistema clip it (236 oz). A 65% Boveda pack. Optional Spanish cedar trays (7 of these fit perfectly).
I’ve got two of these and two smaller ones for my infused/flavored that I don’t age as long. [link]
The price fluctuates a ton, but don’t spend more that $12-$15.
As mentioned before, some boveda packs (1 for every 25 cigars) [link]
A hygrometer [link]
Optional cedar tray [link]
Store in a cool part of the house. Done.
Do yourself a favor and get a Tupperdor. It’s basically any plastic or acrylic container with a good seal. I personally bought this container which is super popular on here and this insert along with a boveda pack. The cedar insert is optional but adds a nice touch of cedar flavor to the cigars in my opinion. At the very least, buy the container as well as a 60 gram Boveda pack, around 65% rh is typically a safe bet. Tupperdors are cheap and do a much better job at holding humidity than most wooden humidors.
Also, the cigars are legit no doubt about it. I’m not aware of duty free stores at airports ever having fakes, especially the big international brands. Do take the cigars out of the tubes in the humidor though, or at least take the caps off, because tubos are notorious for allowing mold to grow. I learned that one the hard way after I bought a 3 pack of Siglo III tubos that turned out to be moldy.
Definitely. OP, as long as you’re not trying to actively hide the cigars, you can’t go wrong with this
container and this insert along with a boveda pack. Super easy and no fuss.
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As someone else already mentioned, tupperware container with some Boveda packs. However, here's an additional thing I like to do.
I will take some run-of-the-mill zip-loc bags, clean them with a distilled water & baking soda solution (to remove the plastic smell since cigars easily pick up smells). Whenever I get new cigars or boxes, I will segregate them to their own zip-locs with Boveda packs in the large tupperware container I keep.
Zip-locs are semi-permeable (meaning air can seep into and out of them VERY slowly), so the bag and tupperware system I keep acts like a "two-layer" approach. Each cigar/group of cigars has its own "private" space to do their own thing, but all the bags share a common area that is humidity controlled so what little air seeps into them is at the RH I prefer.
As far as plastic containers go, humidity sealed tupperware containers and acrylic jars (both can be found on Amazon) are options.
I have only used the 1870-236oz version of this one, but the two I have work good. Been running the same Bovedas in hem for about 9 months now.
So back to the tupperdor, I use:
-----This container -----> https://www.amazon.com/Sistema-Klip-It-Multi-Use-Food-Storage-Container-236oz/dp/B00284AG5U/ref=dp_csx_sw_pr_csd_0
-----This cedar tray -----> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079V3KYT7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_05mdDbNZRTW8H
How many cedar trays fit into this container IF I provided the correct items?
My online store only has 69% packs available they are out of the 65!
This tupperdor looks good
The one I see recommended all the time in US is the sistema, like this one : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00284AG5U/
But any tupperware with a good seal will do the job.
I've got mine from Ikea (Switzerland).
Someone here is selling the pupperdor, it's a sistema (I think) with boveda, hygrometer and spanish cedar trays, but you can as well source all items by yourself.
As I'm sure you will read, the default setup for a new cigar smoker is this: Systema container | cedar tray | Boveda 65 | Hygrometer. You could get away with not buying the hygrometer as long as you use the Boveda's but It's always good to know the rh. Another great tool to have is the PerfecDraw, not cheap but worth every penny.
If you don't care about looks buy a proper sealing tupperware and two Boveda packs and call it a day.
This is the de facto standard for large tupperdors: [link]
Just add a couple Boveda packs for humidification and some cedar strips or trays (optional)
Correct. Boveda packs are true 2-way humidification. If the humidity goes high, they will absorb some of it as well. They do an excellent job of keeping humidity when the humidor is seasoned properly and has a good seal.
Wooden humidors do take a bit of maintenance. I would recommend looking into a Tupperdor type setup. Get a plastic tupperware type container that has a good seal. We generally recommend the Sistema Klip It 232 Oz - the price on amazon is fairly high right now but Target will have it for $14'ish. Combine that with some Boveda 60g packs (recommend 65% RH) and you're all set. You can even get a Spanish Cedar Tray to help organize. Will fit perfectly inside.
Have a link for the one your using? I'm using this right now for 2 of mine. [link]
What specifically didn't you like about the cigar? Was it the flavor? Honestly that stick sounds like something that wasn't great but the store was putting on sale to push off a bit.
Here's a little something I might recommend if you're still trying to figure out where you stand: [link] You get a 4 pack with different bodies. Connecticut -> Cameroon -> Habano -> Maduro. The darker it goes, the fuller the body it gets (not a rule of thumb, but that's the case with these cigars). You can use code 10reddit for some additional savings if that interests you from cigarplace!
Do note if you buy online though, you will need to store your cigars. A tupperware container and boveda pack are a cheap combo that will store any cigars you receive online. They do need to rest a bit after shipping to recover from that journey. If that's too much, you can keep on going to the store and buying a stick and smoking it until you're ready for a home collection.
So with the nub sampler, even if you don't get it, it has a nice line of points to try. If you want chocolate and coffee, a maduro wrapper will do that job well. If you like a creamier flavor, the conneticut wrapper is where to go, and then there are a ton of flavors all between. The lighter side of smokes looks similar to what you smoked but you might just not be a fan of milder smokes. That's fine! Most newbies want the milder stuff though. That's why it gets recommended. A full cigar can taste like a pepper bomb from a ton of nicotine until you're more used to it.
The 29 cup Sistema is on sale right now $12.99 on Amazon.
Sistema Klip It
The 101oz/3L should suit your capacity just fine.
If it still doesn't look nice enough, find a decorative box and stick the Sistema in it.
Just throwing this out there...
If you want to avoid this issue of humidity loss, you should look into replacing that leaky humidor with some airtight tupperware or other airtight container.
A lot of guys like this airtight container used along with this spanish cedar tray.
I personally use these airtight containers from Walmart and put a few small pieces of spanish cedar in with the cigars. The containers come in various sizes.
Get a tuppperware,I use a Sistema for my overflow storage. Then get a Boveda for your desired RH, I use 65%. Throw the sticks and the Boveda in the container and you have your first tupperdor.
I buy these containers at Walmart for around $7 and they're air tight. A lot of guys on /r/cigars use this container along with this spanish cedar tray which I will eventually upgrade to myself.
> any air tight tupper ware type container do
I'm using these and these for reference and they both work great. I really like the little ones for singles because it's a perfect shape.
You can add some Spanish cedar but it isn't required. I don't have any in mine but I might build some dividers out of some eventually.
Well... If you do change your mind, I highly reccommend this right here. I've got four of these now, they're a perfect size for 70 or so cigars, good food-safe bpa-free plastic and seal up really good. Once you fill those up, then check out these. Lets not talk about why I know about them! haha.
This one is about half the price and is big enough (more rectangular) to accommodate this tray which is nice.
I have a couple of these and highly recommend them. They're a great size for cigars, you could fit 70 cigars in one, seal up very nice. Then grab 1-2 of these and you're done.
You can always add a piece or two of spanish cedar in the box if you want to add a nice smell. Or grab some of these and leave them in the humidor too.
I like the idea of a Tupperdor inside something more aesthetically pleasing. A bit of the best of both worlds.
I have a Sitsema Klip It and it works quite well. The 2L/67.6 can hold about 30 cigars lined up along the width. The most I have had in mine was 24, but that has space for about two more and the bottom level was some longer Toro's that had to go length wise.
The 3L (next size up) is the same footprint but is taller by about 1.5". From there you start getting larger in the other dimensions as well.
The feel test is a poor indicator, especially for someone new. It's a sad realization that most inexpensive humidors leak rh, but the sooner you go to an airtight container with 65rh, the better. You could order 69rh bags and do the compensation for the leak, but you'll always be replacing those bags and it's just not optimal.
Most popular: [link]
For 20 max or so: [link]
Gotchya. Any reason you don’t want to explore Tupperware? I just got the Sistema large capacity that everyone posts on here, can fit 2 cedar trays and probably close to 100 sticks. No more pricey of a set up than 2 of those acrylic humi’s. I’m loving it thus far. Also make sure to add a hygrometer if you don’t already have!
Mantello Solid Spanish Cedar... [link]
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Look into setting up a tupperdor. Basically any airtight Tupperware container and some 65% Bovida humidity control packs. I use 3 in mine. It’s not as pretty as a wood humidor, but they work just as good.
This Tupperware is popular:
Sistema 1870 Klip It Collection Rectangle Food Storage Container, 232 Ounce [link]
You can add a digital hygrometer to monitor the humidity/temperature, and even a cedar tray but they’re not really required and can be added later if your budget is tight.