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Slavery by Another Name: The Re-Enslavement of Black Americans from the Civil War to World War II?
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Douglas Blackman wrote a book about this that won a pulitzer. It's actually a really easy read and delves into detail about sharecropping and prison labor. It's absolutely heartbreaking what people did to the freed slaves.
Slavery continued well after the war. This Pulitzer-Prize winning book is a must read: Slavery By Another Name by Douglas Blackmon
( ) read about the topic to have an informed opinion.
^-- Check this one next, and see if it changes your mind. Here is a good place to start.
> https://www.amazon.com/Slavery-Another-Name-Re-Enslavement-Americans/dp/0385722702
I'm putting that on my kindle. Thanks for the recc! I recently read 'Devil in the Grove' and 'Warriors Don't Cry,' too. Both really excellent examinations of integration efforts and the criminal justice system during Jim Crow.
> Is there anything "disgusting" or "racist" about the video?
I watched a few minutes, but the only thing I found disgusting was the lack of engagement with any serious issues of race inequality in the US.
> I think that intellectual challenge is a good thing.
Maybe read some about issues of race, then? Here is another one.
> Unfortunately, many leftists seem to find intellectual challenge disgusting/bad/racist.
This is way too vague to be meaningful.
As I said: they come with a money back guarantee. PM me if you don't like them. :)
(I love non-fiction, and I'm always on the look-out for good books. Here's another really good one that taught me many things I didn't know.
I found Slavery by Another Name to be eye opening. Slavery didn't end with the Civil War, it got worse -- blacks were imprisoned for bogus crimes and force to work on chain gangs and in mines. The difference was slaves had value, "convicts" did not, so if they died no money was lost. Thus some mines had 33% mortality rates per year.
http://www.pbs.org/tpt/slavery-by-another-name/watch/
https://www.amazon.com/Slavery-Another-Name-Re-Enslavement-Americans/dp/0385722702
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/10/books/10masl.html
> So in the case of John Clarke, convicted of “gaming” on April 11, 1903, a 10-day stint in the Sloss-Sheffield mine in Coalburg, Ala., could erase his fine. But it would take an additional 104 days for him to pay fees to the sheriff, county clerk and witnesses who appeared at his trial. In any case, Mr. Clarke survived for only one month and three days in this captivity.
> I'll be extra careful not to do illegal shit now!
I think that's a gross simplification that ignores the root cause of the problem.
Often what is not a crime for whites is a crime for blacks. See: blacks arrested for not putting out their cigarette when pulled over, or being arrested for resisting arrest, or for "trespassing" at their own job.
Everyone breaks countless laws a day. You probably broke 5 or 10 on your way to work. But you probably don't have to worry about being arrested or shot for not pausing 3 seconds at a stop sign or not signalling a lane change or going a few MPH over the limit.
Often crimes that are ignored for whites are enforced with draconian penalties for blacks. See: blacks and whites smoke weed at the same rate, but blacks are arrested at 400% the rate of whites. Conviction = no college assistance, no housing assistance, can't live with anyone on housing assistance, barred from most jobs, basically a ruined life... if you're black.
Then there is the fact that poor people get no legal representation and can't afford a trial. By law they are supposed to get a lawyer, but in reality they get 3 minutes with someone who doesn't know anything about their case, so even if they could afford the thousands in legal fees they would certainly lose. Also, while whites often get bail or released on their own recognizance, blacks often will sit in jail for years waiting for trial, with nobody at home to feed or take care of their kids. So they will lose their children and sit in jail for years unless they plead guilty to a crime they didn't commit, or even didn't occur. http://beta.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-raphling-bail-20170517-story.html https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/why-pretrial-jail-can-mean-pleading-to-worse-crimes/491975/ http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2014/11/20/why-innocent-people-plead-guilty/
Also, the entire concept of the Southern chain gang was invented as a replacement for slavery. Except whereas slaves had value, you can always convict someone of fake crimes to replace someone who died on the job. So mines that used chain gangs had up to a 33% mortality rate, per year. See Slavery by Another Name.
http://www.pbs.org/tpt/slavery-by-another-name/watch/
https://www.amazon.com/Slavery-Another-Name-Re-Enslavement-Americans/dp/0385722702
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/10/books/10masl.html
> So in the case of John Clarke, convicted of “gaming” on April 11, 1903, a 10-day stint in the Sloss-Sheffield mine in Coalburg, Ala., could erase his fine. But it would take an additional 104 days for him to pay fees to the sheriff, county clerk and witnesses who appeared at his trial. In any case, Mr. Clarke survived for only one month and three days in this captivity.
the US has defacto slavery until WWII for the black population, with the whole 'imprison someone for a BS claim and work them until they die' thing. (source)
https://www.amazon.com/Slavery-Another-Name-Re-Enslavement-Americans/dp/0385722702
This shit will really tie slavery to modern issues we face. I highly recommend!
here's a few that would absolutely blow the mind of anyone who thinks the civil war mostly ended our oppression of black americans and afforded them anything remotely resembling equality.
for starters...
Slavery by Another Name: The Re-Enslavement of Black Americans from the Civil War to World War II
> Douglas A. Blackmon exposes the horrific aftermath of the Civil War and the abolishment of slavery, when thousands of black people were unfairly arrested and then illegally “sold” into forced labor as punishment.
> “When white Americans frankly peel back the layers of our commingled pasts, we are all marked by it. Whether a company or an individual, we are marred either by our connections to the specific crimes and injuries of our fathers and their fathers. Or we are tainted by the failures of our fathers to fulfill our national credos when their courage was most needed. We are formed in molds twisted by the gifts we received at the expense of others. It is not our ‘fault.’ But it is undeniably our inheritance.”
there's tons of awfulness in more modern times as well...
or...
The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America
and if you really don't want to recognize your old self...
Stamped from the Beginning: The Definitive History of Racist Ideas in America
anyways
i'd be shocked if you're actually interested in reading about this and not just posturing over it but good on you if so.
Richard Nixon outright said, on tape, that the government needed to come up with a way to single out blacks without appearing racist and that the way was a war on drugs.
Be that as it may. 30 days is ridiculous for this but let's say it isn't. There is a legal doctrine that is available to render the offended parties satisfaction.
The doctrine is called "respondeat superior" or "let the superior answer". This doctrine holds employers responsible for employee misconduct if the employee is acting within the scope of her duties. Basically, the employer is responsible if, while doing her job, the employee offends.
So, let's say this employee, while picking up a dumpster, drops it on someone's car. His employer is liable for the damages.
Let's say this employee, after work, takes the trash truck to an apartment building who's owner is paying him under the table to remove their trash and drops a dumpster on a car. His employer is not liable.
So, in this case, if the employee, with the knowledge of his employer, went out and picked up trash early from the neighborhood, the employer is liable.
If the employee went and got the truck keys on his own without the employer knowing and went to pick up trash early in that neighborhood, the employee is liable.
From the information provided in the video and the fact that I live about ten minutes from that neighborhood, I would say that the prosecutor was outright being an asshole. First, he was being an asshole because he was obviously up against someone who did not even know to bring a lawyer with him.
Second, he is an asshole for not seeking a fine against the company which is clearly the superior party here.
Third, he is an asshole because he could have sought a day in jail which would have been just as effective in sending a message.
Fourth, he is an asshole because he just started or added to a criminal record for the guy who was just busting his ass to make a living.
Fifth, he is an asshole because, as a lawyer, he is carrying on the practice of seeking the most punishment possible for a minor offense. The guy, while in jail on the weekends, will probably have to do some manual labor for the benefit of a local company probably partly owned by the judge or the prosecutor or both.
On the last point: If you find this hard to believe, read a book called "Slavery by Another Name".
Is the prosecutor racist? I believe so. Can I prove it? I can't. Take it for what it's worth.
13th Amendment
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
There was still slavery by another name. Want ended was the institution of slavery which meant that human beings were considered property and slavery was inherited and passed down from birth. This ended in the Civil War and its one of the greatest accomplishments of American history. Ending the idea of people as property is monumental and should be celebrate.
However things didn't change much for a lot of people.
This books covers that topic pretty well. They also have a doc on it if you prefer to watch that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_by_Another_Name
http://www.amazon.com/Slavery-Another-Name-Re-Enslavement-Americans/dp/0385722702
Edit: I don't understand? Does Reddit think that things became after the Civil War? I mean, what was the Civil Rights movement all about?
The real Constitution obviously wasn't that important to them lol, and apparently neither was their Rebel Constitution. Just before the war ended they sent an emissary to Britain and France offering to abolish slavery for recognition. Now this happened after the war was underway and they were desperate but maybe some factions weren't that committed to slavery and wanted to end it in the south. There are of course so many other ways to oppress people and get them to do work for little or no money. (sharecropping, incarceration).
As an aside, I'm surprised with all the confederate flags I see around town that no one is trying to set the record straight with an ignorant carpetbagger like myself.
>jealous low-life
I'm glad that you took a moment to step back and carefully consider the opposition's views.
using the word nigger in that context is relevant to a lot of people, myself included. If it doesn't piss you off, I recommend this book, which outlines injustices much worse than those occurring before the civil war.
do you know much about american history between the civil war and world war II? some pretty serious shit went down just eighty or so years ago. I feel sick when I read the word nigger not for a moral outrage reason but because I remember all the shit I read about.
recommend this book
There's a great book called Slavery By Another Name by Douglas A. Blackmon, which details just one of the ways that some Americans were able to keep black enslaved through abuses of our legal system. This didn't get corrected until roughly sixty years ago.
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