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Strop is secondary. Buy this and grab a cheap knife to get a good hand. There's not much to it, watch a couple videos on Youtube to learn about angles and stuff.
If you really feel like stropping, find the piece of grey cardboard you have at the end of most paper pads and use that lightly. You can do it dry as long as the cardboard is clean (you shouldn't apply a lot of weight anyway).
I like the Tri sided whetstones we have a Norton at work but they are pricey, this one looks cool Smiths Arkansas Tri hone whetstone Amazon
I mean to be honest unless you beat your knives and subsiquently its edge i would just send it off to someone to get it taken care of. A proper edge on a good steel should last a long ass time if you’re just using it for the occasional string on your pants or a strip of tape on a box. But if you’re cutting through cardboard constantly and can’t afford to keep sending it off every month then i’d just reccomend one of these: Smith's TRI-6 Arkansas TRI-HONE Sharpening Stones System [link]
It’s what i used for my sharpening mixed in with some norton sharpening oil (which i also use as lube for my balis) and i haven’t found a knife i wasn’t able to make razor sharp yet. It’s a free hand sharpener however so you’ll have to be careful with the angle you use for your bevel. It SHOULD come with a 22* guide (mine did atleast) so as long as you use that as a guide and follow the instructions that come with it it’ll be perfect for your application.
This is the set I have, I don't know much more about this stuff besides the description, and what I see on youtube: [link]
It's my first one, I've only been carving for a few weeks. So I'm still on my beginner set of tools.
haha, but really Moras are probably overlooked way too often. I'm the first idiot who'll choose a knife for its looks before looking at how actually useful it is.
hey since you seem to be knowledgable with moras, how easy is sharpening on a system like mine ?
How much experience free hand do you have? Whetstones have a steep learning curve. Not only do you have to hold the blade at the right angle but they need maintained too. They're soft so every couple uses they must be flattened. Being that they're so soft, it's also really easy to dig the heel or tip of the knife into it. I'd recommend this. [link] Great for knives and more of a general purpose set. Less maintenance and not nearly as soft.
I bought a tri-stone (400, 600, and 1000-1200) and I have a bunch of cheap dull knives that my wife likes to put through the dishwasher. I read one opinion that stones that aren't oiled (and were never oiled ever) sharpen quicker because they take off more metal. I'm going with this theory for now.
Is the best thing to do to record me sharpening one of these cheap knives with my best interpretation of the directions that came with the stone on video and have you guys critique? Will I be able to achieve a hair shaving edge with tri stones on such abused knives?
Thank you for the advice! I've been trying to sharpen with my body and not my wrists and elbows like you said. I have this but I don't use the stand guide shown in the picture.
I own this set of sharpening stones: [link]
They do fine for me. It takes a little bit of time to learn to freehand sharpen your knives but it's worth it. Your edge will turn out ten times better than that of a pull through sharpener. These stones are also cheaper than most sharpening systems out there. I also prefer a good freehand polished edge better than a mirrored edge on any sharpening system. It just feels better to me. I've had some really sharp mirror edges, but I've had even sharper polished edges.
This sharpening system also comes with a 23 degree angle guide. You may want your edge thinner than that, but it's a good place to start.
It's a really fucking small stone on which you can't even use the edges anymore due to the damage. You don't anything about sharpening if you think this is worth the bother. For 27$ you could even get this damned cheap thing and be better off than with this broken piece of nonlevel shit.
I can NOT stress how easy a strop and good stones are worth it! I only ever whittled and i just started myself, but ive been using and sharpening and making sharpened edges for 19 years. Get a good stone set budget less budget, get a good strop, and use the right strop compound. You want to try and copy the edge geometry of carving knives like flexcut. They are expensive but excellent right out of the box. I have yet to find a competitive brand to flexcut.
Please someone tell me any brands you trust over flexcut and why. I need to expand my tool kit.
Alright, I’m starting to get an idea of what I’ll need lmao. How can you tell if a stone is using the American or Japanese system? And I’m just going to the amazon store and looking at the stones with 4+ stars.
This is the 3 sided one I was mentioning, which based on your answer seems like it’d be the grit sizes I need
This is one of the double sided, it’s 400/1000, which would be on the upper side of the coarse/grinding grits, but might still work
This this one is 240/800 which would work for grinding, but with only 11 ratings I’m not completely sure of the quality
Go to Walmart or a sporting goods store and buy the little $5 pocket sharpener. Or better yet
Get this for $20 and have everything you need
If you just purchased your knife, DO NOT SHARPEN IT YOURSELF.
Your knife needs to be sharpened only every few years, maybe. However, it should be honed as part of your day-to-day process in the kitchen. I read an article the other day referencing an Italian master chef who honed his knife every four minutes, but come on, that's overkill.
The difference: sharpening a knife (with a whetstone) refers to re-grinding the steel to form a new edge. Usually the edge on your knife is fine (especially if it's brand new), it's just been knocked about and isn't entirely facing in the direction of your cutting force.
Honing a knife (with a honing steel) reshapes the blade and evens out any distortions or irregularities that may be present from ordinary use. After honing a knife, it cuts better not because it's sharper, but because you can actually use the cutting edge.
Here's Alton Brown's explanation: [link]
FYI my suggestions are not travel friendly
Spydeco will do 30 and 40 degree angles. You need a mouse pad and sand paper for a convex knife.
I have the smiths trihone sharpener. It's cheap and does the trick. Has course, medium, and fine stones. It was $25. It might take longer to sharpen than diamond stones bht it works.
If you want something better than the trihone, look at DMT diamond stones. Those are pricey but will sharpen even the hardest of metals.
I have heard the spyderco is great at making sharp knives scary sharp, but it isn't good at sharpening dull knives.
Let us know what you decide.
Just found out smiths makes a diamond tri hone. Looks good!
Smith's TRI-6 Arkansas TRI-HONE Sharpening Stones System [link]
Smith's 50448 6-Inch Diamond Tri-Hone Sharpener [link]
DMT WM8FC-WB 8-Inch DuoSharp Plus Bench Stone - Fine/Coarse with Base [link]
Edit: just researched more spyderco
Ah, nevermind then, i just assumed you took the firesteel. Thats a neat sharpener.
[link] great stones, i use them on my gear, they can get (if youre willing to spend some time) a pretty dope mirror finish.
[link] this is the diamond version. arguably better, but hella spensive.
Why not do it yourself? A few pieces of sandpaper and a $15 guide off Amazon and you're in business using the scary sharp method, or you could shell out $23 for decent set of sharpening stones that'll last you the rest of your life.
I have one that's similar, they get a good starting angle, but you want something to make the microserrations more aligned,