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That's the Sony ALPHA a7sII
This is what I want for $800
I'm confused as can be about all these little variants on the Sony names myself.
EDIT: Wait, are these the same thing? WTF, now I am royally confused.
EDIT: Yeah. I'm fucking retarded. It's the A7rii is what I'm thinking.
The price isn't too bad considering what you get. I'm currently in the market for a new DSLR and waiting for the release of the Note 8. The Sony A7S II is priced at $2700 just for the body and the Note 8 will probably be at around $800 upon release. That's $3500 I'm looking to drop on a phone/DSLR combo. I could buy the RED Hydrogen phone and still have money to spare for lenses and mods for the price of the A7S/Note combo.
/u/Artoriious - guessing from your post history that you're in Canada? I don't know where you're shopping, but the A7s II shouldn't cost you $4000CAD.
You can get a brand new body for $3499CAD new from Amazon Canada [Referral Link] - so you'll have $1500 left over for lenses.
Hope this is helpful and good luck finding the right camera for your needs!
Christ, that's an expensive camera. The quality didn't blow me away, either. Well, the high framerate stuff was really cool. Colors and clarity, less so. Guess it takes some tweaking to get the most out of.
Love the new mic, though. That was great.
/u/EmilianoCanales - if you don't mind buying used, you can get one for $2224.28 from Amazon Warehouse Deals with the Amazon 30 day return guarantee.
Or you can wait until next week to see if the camera goes on sale for Black Friday.
Hope this is helpful and good luck!
It's a Sony α7S II: https://www.amazon.com/Sony-ILCE7SM2-mount-Camera-Full-Frame/dp/B0158SRJVQ?th=1
This one right?
I know its been a bit but I was doing some research. I'm not very experienced in cameras so I don't quite know the differences between the mm's or the different types. I was looking on amazon and found this https://www.amazon.com/Sony-ILCE7SM2-mount-Camera-Full-Frame/dp/B0158SRJVQ?th=1 Do you recommend any of these lens that come with this bundle? I'm not on a huge budget so something that isn't trashy but also isn't the most expensive haha. Thank you so much for helping me out
u/hevea_brasiliensis - if you have the budget for it and want color at night, the a7s II is a good option, especially since you can get one in new condition with a 180 day warranty from KEH for $1639.
I personally prefer color night footage from a7s series cameras (as seen here) over the black & white of IR/thermal - or the green of traditional camcorder night vision - so I understand why you might want to do this.
For audio, you probably want something like a Zoom F1-SP shotgun mic with a built in recorder [Referrals].
You can put the F1-SP on top of the camera for a very compact rig. Better quality than the camera's internal preamps and a lot easier to lug around than carrying a separate recorder.
/u/BSword94 - it depends on your budget and whether you need to take still photos.
If you don't really need a still camera, instead of spending $2698 on an 8-bit A7s II body with a 3.5mm consumer mic jack and a 30 minute continuous recording limit (plus the added expense of full frame lenses), you might want to consider a $2259 4K, 10-bit Sony X70 pro camcorder with XLR audio inputs, a built in power zoom and unlimited recording time.
Here is a live music performance shot with the X70 at 4K:
Here it is shooting a 4K interview:
Here is the more general 4K image quality it can produce:
Rotterdam 2017 - SONY PXW-X70 - 4K by CGN | Medienservice (2160p)
Bukchon Hanok Village in Seoul(4K Shot with PXW-X70) - 북촌 한옥마을 PXW X70 in 4K by 대산 DAESAN (2160p)
PXW-X70 4K/24p Beauty image by Sony (2160p)
Harmonious Beach(포항영일대) - Sony PXW-X70 CINEMATIC by Woojin Oh (2160p)
In my view, this is the best 4K all-in-one pro video camera you can buy in this price class.
If you do need a still/video camera, I agree with /u/VincibleAndy - you can save a lot of money by upgrading to a $1398 4K A6500. With the A6500, you can continue using the crop sensor lenses from your A6000.
For less than the price of a $2998 body-only A7s II, you can get a $1497.99 GH4 with V-LOG (and a full US warranty) plus either a Canon or Nikon Speedbooster XL to reduce the crop to 1.28x and improve its low light performance.
This is a great camera for videography and filmmaking - and a very good value for your money.
Again, hope this is helpful!
> Looking to buy my first video camera!...Is there any other camera I should look at in the price range?
It depends on whether you want a compromise still/video hybrid camera or a video camera.
If you want a video camera, I recommend a $2249 Sony X70 with a 1" sensor, 12x power zoom lens, 10-bit 4:2:2 codec and the 4K upgrade instead of the $2998 body only, 8-bit 4:2:0 still/video compromise A7s II.
The X70 has the pro XLR audio inputs, dual card slots, unlimited continuous recording, built-in ND filters and SDI output you're accustomed to from your day job.
Shooting with a still/hybrid compromise camera with a 3.5mm mic input, 30 minute continuous recording limit, no ND filters and a single card slot might seem like a step backward.
Here is the image quality the X70 can produce at 4K (please watch at 2160p and your monitor's highest resolution):
Test Sony PXW-X70 in 4K by magazinevideo
Sony pxw-x70 test 4K - Night view of Seoul, Korea by yoonkee sung
PXW-X70 4K/24p Beauty image by Sony
Side by Side camera comparison 4k by Matthew Walton (comparison with the $6099 Sony FS5 and $1295 JVC GY-HM170)
In my view, the X70 is best pro camcorder solution you buy in this price range.
Hope this is helpful, good luck with finding the right camera and best of the holidays to you and yours!
/u/BootsOnYoCouch - ring lights are great for run and gun. Here is an F&V R-300 in front of my BMPCC, and here it is in front of my GH3.
I shot this interview and b-roll with the F&V at NAB 14 - the interview is a little hot (I should have backed it down), but it shows how much light the R-300 can pump out.
As far as the camera goes, I would get a $2995 JVC-LS300 (from an authorized dealer with a 3 year factory warranty) for events, corporate, weddings and music videos.
This is a 4K camcorder with 4 times the C100's resolution, 4:2:2 color subsampling (the C100 has DSLR-like 4:2:0 subsampling), 1080/120p slow motion, power zoom compatibility and a zoom rocker (features missing from the C100) - and it is a real video camera with built-in XLRs, ND filter, and dual card slots, unlike the Sony. Here is the image quality it can produce:
Wedding with a jvc gy-ls300 by NOA NOA (1080p)
Kristin & Doug's Wedding at Glen Magna Farms 4K Ultra-HD Wedding by Jim Merchant (2160p, shot with the LS300 and a Sony AX100)
JVC LS300 Test Footage by Hamilton Video & Sound Limited (1080p)
JVC GY-Ls300 Test 001 by Dario Viola (1080p)
You can save yourself a lot of money by starting out with a $2995 Super 35 camcorder with 4K resolution instead of a $2499 1080p C100 plus a $2998 Sony A7s II when you want to upgrade to 4K.
Hope this is helpful and best of luck!
/u/Landes24 - do you need a still photo camera? If not, you might want to look at a real camcorder instead of a compromise still/video camera. For less than the price of a $2998 (body only) Sony A7s II, you can get a $2995 JVC GY-LS300 body with a free Rookinon 35mm T1.5 Cine DS lens. Add a $93.99 electronic adapter for your Canon glass, and you'll be in business.
With a real video camera like the LS300, you will have built-in XLR inputs, ND filters, a power zoom rocker, SDI out and dual card slots - features you would have to pay extra for with a compromise still/video camera.
It also has the ability to record for hours continuously - something still/video cameras in this price range can't do.
The LS300 records at true DCI 4096x2160p 4K resolution (the A7s II is limited to 3840x2160p UHD). It also records to a highly gradeable 8-bit 4:2:2 .mov codec (as opposed to the A7s II's 8-bit 4:2:0 codec), as seen here:
This camera also has a maximum slow motion frame rate of 1080/120p (seen here) and a factory LOG profile.
I've rented the LS300, it was great to shoot with and produced some really nice looking video, as seen here (I didn't shoot these):
J-LOG on Vimeo (please watch at 4K and your monitor's highest resolution)
Japanese garden with the JVC gy ls300 by NOA NOA
JVC GY-LS300 4K J-Log Vision
Palm Springs Photo Festival 2016 - JVC LS300 footage by Zachary Andrews (4K J-LOG)
1080p on Vimeo
Breathing in New Life
“Honmonji Temple” in GY-LS300 by moribun (downscaled from UHD to 1080p, downloadable if you're a Vimeo Plus or Pro member [if you're not, you can sign up here])
JVC GY-LS300 Camera Test
A Snowy Day in Ann Arbor, Shot with the JVC GY-LS300 by Chase Stanton
J-LOG on YouTube (please watch at 2160p and your monitor's highest resolution)
Non-LOG Gammas on YouTube (2160p)
GY-LS300 UHD 4K w/ Canon 70-200 and 85mm lenses by JVCProfessional
JVC LS300 Clips by Hamilton Video & Sound Limited
EVS’s test footage for the JVC GY-LS300 4K super 35 Cinema camera
TOKYO“I”land KOWA PROMINAR w/JVC KENWOOD GY-LS300 by Satoshi Watanabe
JVC GY-LS300 4K Footage by elton chong
But the camera isn't perfect. The viewfinder is tiny - and, although 4:2:2 chroma subsampling is nice, I wish it had 10-bit color space.
That said, a 4K Super 35 interchangeable lens camcorder with a LOG profile and 1080/120p slow motion below $3000 is a steal.
Hope this is helpful and good luck with your upgrade!
/u/GGen - with a $3000 budget, if you plan to shoot in low light, you can buy a $2623.25 used Sony A7s II body from Amazon Warehouse Deals and maybe one 50mm f1.8 lens [Referral Links]. But that doesn't leave you with a lot left over for lighting, camera support and sound.
If you want a little more budget flexibility and music videos that look like this:
Barbwire (Allen Stone) - Jaylon Ashaun Cover by CreativeHouse Motion
KALLY REY [suga] by Sabb Adams
Los Profetas - Elévame [Official Video] by LCP Films Network
...you might want to consider a $1297.99 Panasonic GH4 with a $100.94 copy of V-LOG L, a $679 Metabones Speedbooster XL and a few Canon lenses [Referral Links].
I am a GH4 shooter, and, in my view, this camera will give you the best bang for your buck.
/u/Yodeiscool - if you need to record for more than an hour, I recommend against buying a 30 minute camera.
You might be better off with a camera that doesn't have a 30 minute limit, such as a camcorder or a studio camera.
For a little more than a $2998 A7s II ILCE7SM2/B, you can get a $1098 A7 ILCE-7 with a $70.99 Commlite EF adapter for stills, a $1295 Blackmagic Studio Camera 4K with a $659 EF to Blackmagic Speed Booster and record 1080p via HDMI to your Elgato for your YouTube channel.
This will give you the ability share glass between a high quality dedicated studio camera and a full frame still camera.
The great thing about the studio camera is that if you ever want to make it part of a full blown professional studio setup, as seen here, you can. And with its global shutter, it's a pretty good action cam too, as seen here.
These are options you would not have with a Logitech webcam.
its $2,998 @ Amazon - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0158SRJVQ/
/u/MyPenisMightBeOnFire - below $3000, you can have either full frame or built-in RAW - but not both. Your best option - for about the same price as the 5D Mark III - would be the $2998 Sony A7s II (you'll also need an adapter [Referral Links] for your EF glass).
This is an amazing low light, full frame camera (much better in low light than the 5D Mark III), it also has 4 times the 5D Mark III's video resolution - plus it has in-body stabilization for steady handheld shooting.
Here are a few examples of the image quality this camera can produce:
"After Darkness, light" Testing the low light of the Sony A7S II - by Philip Bloom
Sony a7S II test - "Play with me" by Johnnie Behiri
Andre Hamm | Keystone by Jannick Fjeldsoe
This is the best still/video camera you can buy below $3000.
/u/BonJoviPrayerHair - sorry to hear about your D7200 - but I would avoid Canon and Nikon full frame DSLRs for video.
For higher image quality, you might want to consider a $2998 Sony A7s II instead [Referral Link].
It has 4 times the video resolution of the D810 or the 5D Mark III - plus features they simply cannot match - 120 fps slow motion at 1080p, built-in 5-axis image stabilization, much better low light performance and a viewfinder that is not blocked by the reflex mirror when you're shooting video.
The A7s II can produce images that look like this:
Slow burn: Sony a7S II shoots 120 fps in low light with Zeiss Loxia 21 and Milvus lenses by Dan Chung
Paul Sova: Carving a Career by Brad Dumke
Sam's Barbers - Dublin, Ireland - Sony A7s ii by Dan Horne
4K (please watch at 2160p and your monitor's highest resolution)
This is the best still/video camera you can buy below $3000 and is much more future-proof than a 1080p DSLR.
Hope this is helpful, good luck with your upgrade to full frame and best of the holidays!
If you're going to spend $2-$4K, you might want to consider getting a camera that combines your 7D's large sensor with your HPX-170's built in XLR inputs and fast autofocusing power zoom lens - such as the $4195 Panasonic AG-DVX200 camcorder.
Although it has a relatively large sensor, the DVX200 is a much more capable video camera than the 5D Mark III, with: 4096x2160p resolution at 60fps (the 5D III is limited to 1920x1080p at 30fps), in-body 5 axis image stabilization, a LOG color profile, dual card slots, built-in XLRs and NDs.
And it produces high quality images:
Behind the scenes:
And a nice first look from Zacuto:
That said, if you don't like the idea of another camcorder and really want a full frame interchangeable lens camera, you should still avoid the 5D Mark III and get the new $2998 Sony A7s II with an $84 autofocusing EF to full frame Sony E mount adapter so you can continue using your EF/EF-S lenses.
Here are a few examples of what the original A7s can do:
Roma by Oliver Astrologo
Gateway to the Ganges by Brandon Li
Moonlight | A7s by Carbon Studios
Now I See by Philip Bloom
Tokyo Roar by Brandon Li
Here is what the new A7s II can do (this camera was just released, but Sony has already posted examples - please watch at 2160p and your monitor's highest resolution):
1080/120p Slow Motion
In my view, for video, the A7s II is a lot better value for your money than the 5D III - and it gives you an in-camera upgrade path to 4K when you're ready.
Hope this is helpful and good luck with adding a third camera!
u/monsterdavid - if this Haunted Mansion video is good enough, you should look into the $2398 A7s II.
You'll also need a fast full frame lens. I recommend the Sigma 24-35 f/2 with a Metabones adapter [Referral Links].
Here is this lens on the A7s II in low light conditions.