Can I suggest, Southern AG Garden, Biological Fungicide.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VXQG23O/
It’s over twice as concentrated as Hydroguard and costs significantly less. I put this in my 5 gallon bucket and have happy healthy roots.
I don’t recommend mixing H2O2 with any “good bacteria” because it will kill it off. That extra oxygen molecule can’t make that determination. If anything you can run some H2O2 a few days prior to adding good bacteria if you’re looking for a quick sanitization.
I’m still fairly young in the hydro world, but passing along info that I’ve gathered!
I highly recommend this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VXQG23O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabt1_ECRUFbKRWN6TN?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 It is very similar to hydro guard but it's a much high concentration. It's a beneficial bacteria that will eat anything else in the res and clean up your root
I've had good luck with this as both a soil drench and spray for fungus control https://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Friendly-Biological-Fungicide/dp/B00VXQG23O/ref=sr_1_3?crid=MIC2ZNCFBZQ2&dchild=1&keywords=biological+fungicide&qid=1600291900&sprefix=biological+fun%2Caps%2C181&sr=8-3
I would treat with hydrogen peroxide (1 tsp per gallon if using 12% H2O2, or 4 times as much if using drugstore 3%), then use a few drops of Southern Ag at every water change from then on to prevent reoccurence.
Yeah its a Hydroguard alternative. Its cheaper and you only need a couple drops to treat a few gallons of water. Its also way more concentrated then Hydroguard. I been using it since the start of my DWC journey and have not had any problems with roots yet.
My water temps range from 75-80F and I use 2 drops of Southern A.G. in 3 gallons of water in my single 5 gallon DWC and have had zero root issues. You get 16oz of it for $18 off Amazon and that will last a long ass time. I do not have a chiller or use ice or anything.
My water temps hover around 75-81F and I use 2 tiny drops of Southern A.G. from a eye dropper in 3 gallons of water and all has been good for months now. I change out my water every 7-9 days.
Exact stuff I ordered:
https://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Friendly-Biological-Fungicide/dp/B00VXQG23O/
I am a DWC Newbie. I use city treated tap water with no issues. My air temps in my 2x2 closet are 75-85F and my water temps are 75-78F. I use Southern Ag Garden Friendly Biological Fungicide for a beneficial bacteria. You mix it 1ml Southern AG to 20ml water then out of that mixture 1ml per gallon of water. If you have any questions, ask! If you look through my profile probably a lot of your questions will be answered.
Also, spend the money on a root inoculant and watch your roots stay Lilly white. Dump a teaspoon of this stinky stuff in and friendly bacteria will go to war on behalf of your roots. Southern Ag Garden Friendly Biological Fungicide,16oz
RDWC is definitely worth the money if you know what you're doing, and saves time but I think you got it, just keep uploading pictures and asking questions you'll get there in no time.
this is the bacteria I use https://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Friendly-Biological-Fungicide/dp/B00VXQG23O. Hydroguard can work too but this is cheaper and stronger and I replaced my hydroguard after I spilt it while kneeling like a dumbass.
I’ve been looking into hydroguard and people have recommended a different brand that’s cheaper per dose.
It’s supposed to be comparable to hydroguard and more concentrated.
From what I’ve seen looking into Hydroponic solutions is companies have marketed themselves as special. Like a lot of stuff is watered down chemicals that you can buy elsewhere.
Had some plants almost die because of root rot and hydroguard saved them. New white roots after 24 hours! I have high water temps and can’t use a chiller.
TLDR I vote going beneficial Bacteria if non chilled
I’ve been looking into hydroguard and people have recommended a different brand that’s cheaper per dose.
It’s supposed to be comparable to hydroguard and more concentrated.
From what I’ve seen looking into Hydroponic solutions is companies have marketed themselves as special. Like a lot of stuff is watered down chemicals that you can buy elsewhere.
I’ve been looking into hydroguard and people have recommended a different brand that’s cheaper per dose.
It’s supposed to be comparable to hydroguard and more concentrated.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VXQG23O/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've used same active ingredient as this in hydroguard, this is much more concentrated. Hydroguard is amazing, ive brought plants from full-blown root rot to beautiful shiny white roots. Ran a cloner for about 5months only cleaned the res and just added cuts to it with about 99% succes and zero rot running the hydroguard.
> Southern Ag https://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Friendly-Biological-Fungicide/dp/B00VXQG23O/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1B0HRM2XEFU16&dchild=1&keywords=southern+ag+fungicide&qid=1594820938&s=lawn-garden&sprefix=southern+ag+fungicide%2Clawngarden%2C1644... This is what I had found, I'm unsure how to find out the strength of the concentration like you were. Would this be stronger than Hydro guard? Edit: The reviews are indicating that is is a stronger concentration than hydro guard. Thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction.
I can't get hydroguard in my country but I found this alternative that is sooo much more concentrated and uses the same bacteria. I had to smuggle it across International borders, but I have enough to last me forever...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VXQG23O?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I had a similar issue and realized I plugged my air pump into the timer power strip! I couldn't tell for a couple of days due to there being no problem with the lights on but i noticed it was suspiciously quiet walking by one day. If not this is a concentrated form of hydroguard. Same type of bacillus but higher percentage. Also enzymes like canna or hygrozyme. I've heard the powdered stuff for ponds works well too.
Southern Ag Garden Friendly Biological Fungicide,16oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VXQG23O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_QYu.FbEHQMRW3
The leaves are turning black because you have leaf blight, you should remove any affected plants and treat the remainder with a biological fungicide. For container grown plants I recommend using a hydroponic fertilizer because they're complete.
biological fungicide:https://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Friendly-Biological-Fungicide/dp/B00VXQG23O/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2GSQQBSRGCLB9&dchild=1&keywords=biological+fungicide&qid=1604110599&sprefix=biolocical+fungi%2Caps%2C192&sr=8-3 Fertilizer:https://www.amazon.com/Dyna-Gro-GRO-032-Liquid-Plant-32-Ounce/dp/B0054YQ1WI/ref=sr_1_2?crid=28GISVIR095XY&dchild=1&keywords=dyna+grow+7-9-5&qid=1604110953&sprefix=dyna+grow%2Caps%2C206&sr=8-2
An alternative to hydroguard is this southern AG product. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VXQG23O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_IOWgFbGYVR3WR it comes in a much stronger concentration so it should last a bit longer, or be more effective at the same dose.
Really? Is that something you add directly to the water?
I've been adding this for some time now.
I'm afraid those are toast, It looks like they were killed by tip blight, you need to dispose of them and the soil, do not compost it the fungal spores are in the soil and sanitize the planter. When you replant next year you should use a biological fungicide as a soil drench and spray to hopefully prevent it happening again. Biological fungicide: https://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Friendly-Biological-Fungicide/dp/B00VXQG23O/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2N8N09RP5CKR&keywords=Southern+Ag+Garden+Friendly+Biological+Fungicide&qid=1662899104&sprefix=southern+ag+garden+friendly+biological+fungici... More info: http://plantclinic.cornell.edu/factsheets/junipertipblight.pdf
I use 2 drops of Southern A.G. in 3 gallons of water and it keeps my roots all good! Its way cheaper and more concentrated then Hydroguard also.
Can this be used at the same time as Hydroguard / DIY Hydroguard (Southern AG Fungicide)?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VXQG23O
It's pricey for a tiny bottle, but it'll last for ages.
This should help
Southern AG is super concentrated compared to Hydroguard. One small ass bottle will last a life time. Its only $18.
https://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Friendly-Biological-Fungicide/dp/B00VXQG23O/
This is the exact stuff I bought. You mix it 1ml Southern AG to 20ml water then out of that mixture you do 1ml per gallon of water.
Exact stuff I got: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VXQG23O/
Good luck!
Southern AG is a Hydroguard alternative.
The same product, but cheaper:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VXQG23O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_RMX356KXF6HPS3G99SBF
Hate to even ask, what chiller do you have?
I have this. Is this pseudo hydro guard?
Southern Ag Garden Friendly Biological Fungicide,16oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VXQG23O/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_520S3HNBBTTR6PPBARB0
I was looking at Southern AG's product prior to Great White, would you break this down for me please. Why do I need both? TIA
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VXQG23O
Yes I run hydroguard as well. Here is a cheaper, more concentrated version Ive been looking at as well.
Southern Ag Garden Friendly Biological Fungicide,16oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VXQG23O/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_T1R0XMMW7XGBYAH9YPR6
everything I use for the green is liquid.
For fungicide I rotate through 4 different kinds:
I change it up every 2 weeks, sometimes going out of order to keep things always changing. The idea is to now let disease or the plant itself to get too used to something so a resistance can't be formed. I'm almost out of the bacillus, so I'll probably change it up with something new that works well on turf in my climate.
For regular lawns, you aren't putting fungicide down so often so propiconazole is the common go-to because it works so well when used ~2-3 times a year.
It appears to be fungal in nature, I've had good results in the past on similar problems using A biological control: https://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Friendly-Biological-Fungicide/dp/B00VXQG23O And Ortho garden Disease Control, your local ace hardware should carry it. https://www.acehardware.com/departments/lawn-and-garden/lawn-care/fungicides/7367378
It looks like petal blight Ortho's garden disease control should help, your local ace hardware should have it, I've also had good success with a biological fungicide biological fungicide:https://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Friendly-Biological-Fungicide/dp/B00VXQG23O/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=biological+fungicide&qid=1615915139&sr=8-6 More info:http://ipm.ucanr.edu/PMG/GARDEN/PLANTS/DISEASES/flowerblight.html#:~:text=Azaleas%20and%20rhododendrons%20are%20highly%20susceptible%20to%20petal,and%20sometimes%20cling%20to%20leaves%20after%20they%20die. https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/shrubs/azalea/common-azalea-problems.htm
Thanks Common-Ground-Grow. Any fungicide you can recommend? I believe I still have some "Southern Ag Garden Friendly Biological Fungicide" (https://amazon.com/dp/B00VXQG23O/)
Would this work? Do I just spray it on the plant? Thanks!
It looks like black rot, treating it with a Captan fungicide, can be an effective treatment I've also had success using a biological fungicide Fungicide https://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Friendly-Biological-Fungicide/dp/B00VXQG23O More info https://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheet/cabbage-broccoli-other-cole-crop-diseases/
I've had good success in the past using Agristrep (agricultural streptomycin sulfate) and a biological fungicide. https://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Friendly-Biological-Fungicide/dp/B00VXQG23O
you are using clear lines ?
that means bright hps light can feed algae .. the whole water system needs to be blacked out from any bright light source. If light can get thru the containers is also bad so maybe paint them if you can see light getting thru
get black water tubing and replace OR another option is buy some black paint and a brush and paint all the clear lines black.
I would start adding h202 into the system and also buy this -->
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https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/819R7Wk5QXL._SL1500_.jpg
if your using tap water that has alot of chlorine in it which will also help the issue ..
It looks like blight, you should spray with a Chlorothalonil based fungicide, I’ve also had good results with a biological fungicide. In this case I'd recommend using the biological fungicide as a soil drench the spores are in the soil, and as a spray biological fungicide: https://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Friendly-Biological-Fungicide/dp/B00VXQG23O/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=biological+fungicide&qid=1594688316&sr=8-3
Again, I use 0 air stones because I cannot stand the audacious racket of an air pump. I've tried a few different ones, but every time I can hear the faint buzzing and it drives me up the wall at night. So I can't tell you if that is good.
The roots drown because part of the root is an "air root." It is meant to be moist at best, but not wet. It's sole purpose is truly oxygen. It will absorb nutrients when water gets on it, but for the most part it just wants oxygen. When those get waterlogged, you get root rot because they suffocate. The lower part of the root is what you would expect, sits in water, absorbs nutrients, water, and whatever oxygen it can.
I believe the plant adapts to its surroundings. So if you have a high water level, it won't have air roots that stretch to the bottom. However, if you keep a low water level, then they will stretch until they find they shouldn't. I am sure there is a balanced middle ground somewhere in there, but what I do is what I've found works for me.
Growing is always YMMV.
I do not use rockwool, I've had a few poor experiences with it and dropped it altogether. I believe my totes are 7 gallon(maybe), and my res is 27 gallon(possibly). I also only use 3" net pots. When I started my endeavor I was flat broke, 3" net pots were cheaper, and used less medium. I personally use lava rock from lowes/home depot. Take a few pieces, break them up into smaller pieces, rinse it thoroughly.
Clone - Collar - Medium - Pot - Bucket -- No more, no less.
As I said, find what works best for you and stick with it. Make small changes here and there if you think it could be better or just aren't satisfied with whatever.
For root rot I use Southern Ag Garden Friendly Fungicide. Basically super concentrated fraction of the price Hydroguard.
Read reviews, use sparingly. I add some every other top off or so, and the day after I do a change. If you actually measure it out, it will last a long while... I don't.. I just give a small pour right in front of the intake so it sucks it back into the buckets instead of swimming around in the res waiting. But I've used it for a while and found the "right pour." But I've also found you end up with a smell if you use to much, I believe it starts taking over. Haven't personally noticed ill effects from it, but the smell alone is something that isn't normal and should, in theory .. be avoided.