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That's trending in the right direction, but you'll be a lot happier with a higher quality light like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TVD1Y3K/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_dl_5H9EZJ3ZD765DRGSAP0G
It seems like you might be trying to save money, but the light isn't the place to do that...
Hate to break it to ya but for 2 plants this is the only right answer to your question SPIDER FARMER SF-2000 LED Grow Light 2x4 ft Coverage Compatible with Samsung LM301B Diodes & MeanWell Driver Dimmable Grow Lights Full Spectrum for Indoor Hydroponic Plants Veg Bloom 606pcs LEDs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TVD1Y3K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_XWFWDKBPKG49SPN2EWC5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Looks like both of those linked lights are blurples (old led tech). I would stick to 301b diodes.
light link (couldn’t find Canadian link)
I prefer 301h diodes from kingbrite on alibaba. I have ordered from her many times always amazing.
I guess the most important question is what size is your grow space?
If you have a 2x4 tent, the SP3000 is one of the best lights you can get until you go way up in cost to boutique quality. IMO the TS series is pretty bottom of the barrel. Less efficient off brand drivers, less efficient LEDs, and no real heatsink so it runs hot and shortens the lifespan. If you need something as cheap as possible, the TSL2000 will do alright for a few years, but if you want to just get one light that will perfectly cover a 2x4 for flowering and last for likely a decade or more, the SP3000 is a better bet.
Both draw a little under 300 watts, but the TSL2000 has a third-party tested actual usable overall efficiency of 1.83µmol/w vs 2.12 for the SP3000, and a total output of 523.6µmol vs. 630.3
The SP's serious heatsink means less direct heat on the plants and a longer durability, while the better driver and LEDs provide more light for the same power draw/heat.
The only reason I would suggest the TSL2000 is if your grow space is shorter than 4 feet, but at that point I would suggest a different style of light like the SpiderFarmer SF-2000 or another brand of that same type of 200-240W double board fixture. That kind would be perfect for a 2x3.
If your space is a 3x3 or similar, the new Mars FC3000 multiple-bar-style light may be the ideal option, however I don't have any personal experience with it nor have I seen any reliable third party testing yet because of its newness. It should be nearly identical to the top tier efficiency and wattage of the SP3000, except in a different shape/layout.
Spider Farmer Newest SF-2000 LED Grow Light 2x4 ft Flower Compatible with Samsung LM301B Diodes Dimmable Full Spectrum Commercial Grow Lights for Indoor Hydroponic Plants Veg Bloom 606pcs LEDs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TVD1Y3K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_wcRfFbYDWJ2MV
This is the light I use when I'm running my indoor grow. I paid the 330 for it in Feb 2021 at 215 that's a hell of a deal for quality LEDS and a quality board.
We are having good luck using this kinda pricey grow light that we had on hand. We have it inside a grow tent ( which has a reflective interior), and expose the images about 12 inches below the light. This gives pretty good results in 20 minutes.
25 inches wide light in a 24 inch tent Lmfao
I thought “you” ran it??? Oh now you don’t? You won’t take a pic? I know for a FACT if you were really using an sf2000 in a 2x2, that you’d get off on proving me wrong.
So where’s the pic? Oh wait, it doesn’t exist cause you don’t grow anything Lmfao,
you can’t even figure out the 25 is bigger then 24 , so I seriously doubt you could grow anything lol
I like to run AC infinity tents and fans . There tents are thicker than gorilla grow tents . And you will like there ram systems were you can have it ramp up for when it gets hotter during the day. As for the light seems small but maybe I looked up the wrong one 100watts? Here’s one I like 2022 New SPIDER FARMER SF-2000 LED Grow Light 2x4 ft Coverage Use with Samsung LM301B Diodes & MeanWell Driver Dimmable Grow Lights Full Spectrum for Indoor Veg Bloom 606pcs LEDs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TVD1Y3K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_REVSAG3W3PZZ43K5F68J?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 works great in a 2x4 but could be pushed a little further if needed . As for the tents intake would suggest running carbon filter inside tent exhausting the hot air and pulling fresh air in near tent intakes near bottem of pots . Feminized seeds are best for beginners because if your having an issue you can veg it longer before flipping to flower
I hear ya on the therapeutic relief from growing. I don’t really even use the flowers. My relatives with pain do, but I just love horticulture and cannabis is a beautiful plant and fun to manipulate. I often talk to mine and touch a lot haha.
Anyways, the one on Amazon right now I have is the 3k, 5k
“IDEAL FOR ALL GROWTH STAGES: Excellent full spectrum- white, blue, red and IR (3000K, 5000K, 660nm and IR 760nm). 3000K diodes providing more reddish light and the 5000K providing more blueish. The 660nm red and IR light is especially useful during bloom, where it speeds up flowering time and boost yields. Turn your seeds into your own supply. And the light looks fairly natural , so it's good for accurately monitoring plant health.”
I put it on 100% full blast 24” from plants and they explode.
SPIDER FARMER SF-2000 LED Grow Light 2x4 ft Coverage Compatible with Samsung LM301B Diodes & MeanWell Driver Dimmable Grow Lights Full Spectrum for Indoor Hydroponic Plants Veg Bloom 606pcs LEDs https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07TVD1Y3K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_84Q3QTJ4S9M2Y74DYYBG?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Wow was looking today and looks like amazon has some quantum boards on there. Know anything about these lights?
About 299 plus tax and 10$ shipping in the US, mr Canuck just used one in his recent video. He has a discount code on amazon, canuck05
Spider Farmer SF-2000 LED Grow Light with Samsung Chips LM301B & Dimmable MeanWell Driver Commercial White Grow Lights for Indoor Plants Full Spectrum for Greenhouse Hydroponic Veg Flower 606pcs LEDs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TVD1Y3K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_d0-6DbVNC2VVP
Check the foot print you might need bigger or smaller for your area
I believe they ship global ***
I have 2 sf4000 in a 120x60
Spider Farmer Newest SF-2000 LED Grow Light 2x4 ft Flower Compatible with Samsung LM301B Diodes Dimmable Full Spectrum Commercial Grow Lights for Indoor Hydroponic Plants Veg Bloom 606pcs LEDs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TVD1Y3K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_pb6tFbHQBRMQ2
This is what I recommend, it’ll do 3 plants Easy
Spider Farmer Newest SF-2000 LED Grow Light 2x4 ft Flower Compatible with Samsung LM301B Diodes Dimmable Full Spectrum Commercial Grow Lights for Indoor Hydroponic Plants Veg Bloom 606pcs LEDs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TVD1Y3K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_jHurFb7EBADDF
I have mars hydro, HLG and spider farmer, basically the HLG and spider farmer are identical, the mars hydro uses cheaper LED’s but still produces great results
I would look into investing in This Or similar price point. The light makes a ton of difference.
I just upgraded a blurple to a 200w qb in my 3x3x7 tent about a month ago. I have it paired with a blurple that claims to be 1200w (just under 200 actual). It is more than the lights you posted, but it is the size of your tent and would be a great starter. I used blurples for 2 1/2 years before upgrading though. People shit on blurples but they are a cheap way to get into the hobby.
I started with 2 mars hydro leds that I’ve had for years, but one burnt out on me during veg, so I replaced them with a spider farmer 2000. It’s great!
You can flower 4 moderate sized plants really well with the Spider Farmer SF-2000. I don't have one yet but I know a few people locally that are having a lot of success with them. Newer HLG boards are getting hard to find a a good price these last few months. Usually it's older models for sale. Two people I know have tried the really cheap knockoff quantum boards. One worked great, the other came with a faulty driver that literally burned the metal casing. I avoid them for that reason.
Look at Spyderfarmer. I was highly skeptical at first, not anymore.
The other differences is the drive voltage. I say the 700 because the wattage topped out at 44.8, just under 45W. Then you aren't pushing the LEDs as hard but still almost all the light. That will cut back on possible LED failure. If you run them too hot, the bond wires inside the LED will break and you can lose a cluster or an entire panel.
Any of those drivers will work for you, but I would strongly suggest not doubling up on the panels. With these only being about $20 US, they shouldnt be too expensive.
Also, check out spyderfarmer. https://smile.amazon.com/Spider-Farmer-Commercial-Greenhouse-Hydroponic/dp/B07TVD1Y3K/ref=sr_1_3 They use the samsung lm301b and have a really nice spectrum. Very similar to fluence. I was very impressed for the price.
The Spider Farmer light is a great light that can be purchased on amazon. A lot of people love the kingbrite QB’s off of alibaba but those have a long wait time for shipping and such.
Is this a price issue or are those the two lights you’ve decided on?
Neither would be my first option. Remember, you can buy nice or buy it twice.
For a 2x4 tent I would probably go:
1) HLG 260XL v2 Rspec kit
2) Timber Cypress 3
3) Spider Farmer SF-2000
4) Mars Hydro TSL-2000
5) BloomPlus BP-2500
I found this spider farmer light, it looks good. What do you think?
I'm looking at this light now: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TVD1Y3K/
Sure! I'm new myself; this will be my first year doing it too.
I love cucumbers, and looked into ways I could grown them inside. If you want to go hydroponics, there's always the Kratky method, though I decided against that because I want to see how long I can keep the plants growing, rather than limiting them to the nutrients you start with.
I bought a quantum board from Spider Farmer and set it up in my basement with a smart plug for a timer, and set out a number of grow bags underneath it in a tote (though raised up a bit to let them drain properly). I'm planting some Sweet Success in them this weekend. I also have a trellis that I can set up on the wall once they start climbing, so they have additional vertical room.
25 inches right in the listing
35 inches right in the listing.
You don’t have a 2x2….
upper racks are sf-2000’s
and the lower racks are imitation t-5’s
Thank you so much for the in depth reply! I've upgraded my tent and fan selections.
Do you think it's good, and it will work for a 4x2x6 tent?
is for a 4x2 but some people buy 2 of em for a 4x4. There might be one light that's a better fit, look around the spider farmer amazon store, and also Mars Hydro's.
This Spider Farmer SF-2000. I use it in a 4x2 grow tent.
Here is the Amazon page for it. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TVD1Y3K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_2FD2D5M888J8WYEBVFKG?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This is my first year growing indoors. I'm using a set of these lights for an 8x4 area.
So far so good.
Great thanks for the advice! I read about the light I posted in the micro grow sub so I thought it was okay but what you're saying makes sense. This is the only light I can find like you're saying for a 2x4' tent space using a quantum board and a fat heat sink. If you have another you'd recommend can you please link it?
I was going to get this tent/fan combo.
This one? And would it be ideal for a 4x2 with 2 plants?
Also is the samsung and meanwell components good?
I use this light for vegging and i am very satisfied with it. It has 3000k and 470 nm blue diodes. It uses up to 135 watts
I don't currently own this light but it will probably be my next purchase. It uses a combination of 3000k, 5000k, 660nm red and 760 nm deep red diodes. It's good for all stages of growth and could easily flower a 2 x 4 space using only 200 watts.
You could probably get something cheaper on Alibaba but i personally prefer the quality assurance that comes with Western companies.
Whoa, thank you for that link.
It appears this item from Alibaba is exactly the same as this Spider Farmer from amazon.
I can buy two from Alibaba for less than one from Amazon. I've never ordered from Alibaba before. Is there a catch? I notice that shipping says "To be Negotiated". How does that work? I need lights from next winter, so I have zero issue ordering this month and waiting several weeks for the product to arrive. Lastly, how does warranty and DOA claims work on Alibaba? One great part about Amazon is that if it doesn't work, it's three clicks to get a replacement sent that day, and get a shipping label to send mine back. There's a lot of peace of mind there. But I'm not sure the peace of mind is worth 3 times the cost (110 dollars versus 300 dollars)
Welcome back, brother. Home growing has changed a lot in the last decade. LEDs have become efficient and affordable, good genetics have become easily available, and seems like everyone grows now. Let me try answers your questions and point you in the correct direction.
74cmX1.2cm is a nice footprint for 2-4 plants. I'll link you two LEDs to consider:
The SF-2000 is a good option if you prefer to order from Amazon. This board runs $330, is 240 watts, and uses good LED diodes. You can reliably pull 240 grams per grow with this light once your technique is dialed in.
Here's the QB that I would probably buy for that space. This board will run you around $250 shipped, it's 320 watts, it uses excellent LED diodes. You can expect to pull 320 grams per grow once dialed in. It is a much better value than the Amazon board. The only down-side to this board over the SF-2000 is it comes from direct from China through Alibaba.com.
A bathroom is a great place to grow weed because there is usually a sink, good power, and it can be closed off from the rest of the home. Humidity needs to be monitored and controlled in a bathroom just like any other room.
You need a carbon filter/blower. There are many to choos from. Here's a decent on that will fit well in your space. The filter/blower will keep your grow space cool so long as the bathroom is cool. You may need to air-condition the bathroom itself.
Auto flowers are your fastest route to smokable bud. Photo-period will give you better control and the ability to max-out your yields. Personally, I like photo-period plants for indoor grows. I would expect it to take around 20 weeks to grow four photo-period plants from seed to harvest.
Hope that's helpful. Good luck!
SF-2000 is the best Amazon option for that tent. A 240w Kingbrite QB from Alibaba is your best budget option.
Welcome to growing weed! It's the very best hobby. There's a lot of different ways to grow weed and a lot of different opinions on how to go about things.
Tent size. Start with a 4x4. Your goal is to fill 100% of the canopy on every run. It takes around 6 weeks to veg 4 plants for a 4x4. It takes about 10 weeks to veg 2 plants for a plants for a 4x4.
Light: This is the most important purchase. Don't mess this up. Two 240w QBs perfect are for flowing a 4x4. The [SF-2000s]https://www.amazon.com/Spider-Farmer-Commercial-Greenhouse-Hydroponic/dp/B07TVD1Y3K/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=lm301b&qid=1588678073&sr=8-3) is you best Amazon option. If you need something cheaper, Here's a nice board from Alibaba if you don't mind ordering from China.
Yes, you can have too much light. 30 watts per sq/ft is ideal for flowering. A 4x4 tent is 16 sq/ft. Times 30w per sq/ft = 480 watts.
You can scrog or not. It mostly depends on the plant and your personal preference. Scrogging will get you a better yield, but it also makes working with the plants a little more difficult. A short stout indica can be trained to fill 90% of the canopy without a scrog. Whereas the colas of a lanky sativa may topple right over without a scrog. You will control the number of cola's your plants produce with topping, training, and pruning. If you want a nice flat canopy and maximum top-shelf yield, you train for many smaller tops. If you want to grow giant donkey-dick colas to impress the ladies, you train for fewer colas.
You want your plants to get a little root-bound in the first container. It's called "root training". I usually transplant from Solo-cups to the final pot 3 weeks after sprout.
Fox Farms is a good nutrient line that is well supported on this sub. It is the line I would recommend if you want to use organic nutes. For soil I'd suggest Fox Farms Ocean Forest or Happy Frog cut with 30% fine perlite for your first grow. Ocean Forest contains all of the nutrients you need for the first 6-8 weeks of life.
I don't really understand this question. Keep as many healthy females as you are able to keep. Throw away any mutants. You won't know which plant is the best one until you weigh and smoke the bud.
Bonus life goals answer: If I was trying to max out a 5 plant count, this would be my strategy: One 4x4 Veg tent with one 240w QB. One 4x4 Flower tent with two 240w QBs. A 3x3 or 2x4 dry tent. You can reliably pull a 16-20 Ounces every 3 months like this.
Do you think this would do good if I got two of them?
Spider Farmer SF-2000 LED Grow Light, with Samsung Chips LM301B ... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TVD1Y3K/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdo_t1_ZVzUDbHHK4H00
What do you think of the Spiderfarmer lights on amazon? They boast tons of those diodes, a reputable driver, from what i've heard (meanwell) and are pretty damn well priced. Also I like the full, white spectrum for a lot of reasons.
No fans only heatsinks, and they're pretty light. It's dimmable, but it's kind of a pain in the ass as it's not easily accessible and is operated by a screw. If they made a real, readable dimmer knob, that would be a huge upgrade.
Haha sounds it for sure! How do these look to you? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TVD1Y3K/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_iIrJDbG5ZHP2S
I am relaxed. Lol. I’m just trying to save you from the headache of getting ripped off. That is better, but not by much. Mars hydro is constantly breaking and they do not offer a legitimate warranty.
The cheapest light I would feel comfortable recommending is probably the Spider Farmer SF2000.