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I’m overthinking my sharpener decision an incredible amount, I’m leaning towards this set with the more basic stones [link]
My only notable knives are a BM hidden canyon S30V and the R2D2 still with nice factory edges cuz they’re new but I have a few no name random knives that are nearly totally dull that have only seen the shitty little plastic pull through sharpener, I want to restore these too. I plan to keep my two nice knives well maintained on the sharpmaker every few days or once a week or so depending, but I could see myself dulling out the D2 rat and neglecting it occasionally, what should I buy in conjunction with the sharpmaker to recover the neglected blades? I’ve seen the sharpmaker can’t save super dull blades.
Ja, je nach Messer kann das ziemlich in die Hose gehen.
Ich hatte so was auch mal, und hab mir dann den Spyderco Sharpmaker geholt.
Ist finde ich leichter zu bedienen als Steine (komme mit Steinen nur bedingt zurecht, aber ich hab wahrscheinlich auch nicht genug Zeit reingesteckt).
Ist etwas teuer, aber das sind gute Steine ja auch.
Spyderco Sharpmaker is a reliable, simple and pretty inexpensive system to touch up the blade and maintain the sharpness of your knives.
I'd start there.
Another good idea is to get a leather strop.
Thanks for the feedback! That's a much better price haha. Should I need anything other than this?
Spyderco Tri-Angle Sharpmaker Knife Sharpener 204MF [link]
Reading reviews, do I need a strop?
Also is my Victorinox paring knife able to be sharpened on this? And scissors?
I bought a Spyderco sharpener and am satisfied with it. Takes a little practice at first, but it's otherwise foolproof. You can find the official instructional video on youtube to get an idea for how it works. [link]
> Throw it away
Haven't bought it yet - wanted to consult with the experts in /r/knives first so thank you so much for the thoughtful reply! Looks like I might go with this.
I went through a big sharpener search a few months ago. My recommendations:
Use a hone before every use. A hone doesn't sharpen a knife. It straightens the edge side-to-side.
Use a stone every 6-12 months (depends on use) to sharpen.
I ended up with a Spyderco. It's ceramic, so no need for oil. And the angles are preset. It works great, night-and-day difference.
There's a cheaper one made by another company, but with the same idea. I forget the name but it was maybe $20 cheaper than Spyderco. Probably produces similar results.
Don't bother with the handheld gimmick sharpeners.
Don't bother with standalone whetstones unless you want to make this a serious hobby. This method is no doubt superior, but it's tough to master.
The Chefmate electric apparently works well, but it's expensive and eats a lot more steel compared to doing by hand.
I'm getting this thing for Christmas because I'm pretty sure I couldn't maintain the proper angles. That and a diamond coated steel from DMT. Works well but I was a supreme dumbo and blunted my chef's knife from an improper angle.
Bench grinders can be useful for chisels, screwdrivers, cheap axes, etc. I've used them instead of a file to clean up some edges in my metalwork in the past (I'm not a good metalworker).
I would avoid using a grinder for good knives or expensive tools, it can ruin the tempering. If you've got a cheap-o blade from the dollar store sure, but if you have a solid pocket knife or a good set of kitchen knives I'd recommend a set of whetstones. Personally, I have been using this sharpening kit for years and love it.
Spyderco Sharpmaker is foolproof and reasonably cheap. Will also work for pretty much all of your household sharpening needs including scissors, chisels, needles, etc.
In response to many comments, good quality serrations shouldnt need any sharpening at all. If you have a partially serrated knife and the serrations are dull, then you arent using it properly. The only product I can even think of that can effectively sharpen serrations without damaging the blade is the sypderco sharpmarker It has triangle rods that can get into the serrations that rounded ceramic rods cant.
I carry partially serrated. Best of both worlds.
I use a Sharpmaker and other than new users dulling the point of their blades I find it to be an easy and effective sharpening method.
You noted above that this isn't a bad setup. Is it good enough for the average EDC knife user such as myself?
What system would you recommend over this one? A pair of bench hones? I have zero experience bench honing a knife, but I would be interested if they can be found reasonably priced.
That's a good knife, is she a professional chef?
If not, just buy her a shit (or an ok one) knife and a good sharpener.
I recommended the Sharp Maker:
I've used my good kitchen knife sharpener to sort of re-edge tweezers. It worked!
I have a sharpener like this, because I also have Kitchenware Addiction. It's rough ��...
If this is the one your talking about then I would not recommend it. Those kind of sharpener are in general very poor at sharpening your knife and wear out the blade much faster than a regular sharpening system. They function by pinching off chunks of metal and leaving a wavy stressed edge that will dull quickly and require sharpening again.
Instead for a similar price, at least here in the US its a similar price. I would recommend the
It holds the ceramic rods at pre set angles but doesnt have only a single angle to it and you can even take out the rods and use them individually or tilt the sharpener to make up for some smaller variations in the factory grind angle.
Also very importantly you can clean the ceramic rods in the sharpmaker awhile in that device you really cant.
The one draw back that the sharpmaker has is that the brown ceramic "Medium" grit rods are very fine and do not do good at sharpening a knife that is very dull (its very slow at it)
Alternatively I would also recommend this
Lansky diamond ceramic turnbox
Its similar to the sharpmaker but cheaper, has shorter ceramic rods which can make it a little less ideal for longer knives like kitchen knives. But it also comes with some diamond rods that are much courser than the rods on the sharpmaker.
The sharpmaker does come with diamond or CBN rods but they cost almost as much as the whole sharpener, though a great addition if you do a lot of dull knives.
I have a good knife sharpener and use it regularly - I cannot abide a dull kitchen knife! - but I desperately want a setup like this one.
Lansky Professional Sharpening System with Coarse, Medium, Ultra Fine, and Serrated Medium Hones [link]
These would be my recommendations for you based on what you already have etc.
Smiths makes a Tri-Hone as well..if you want to start in freehand sharpening. You can Amazon search for it. I don't think a sharpening steel would be the greatest for pocket knives but it depends on what you want to do too (eg how sharp you want it etc).
OP, I had the exact same concerns about sharpening my own knives. I have great hand eye coordination and can definitely be very delicate with my hands, but I know I'm still going to struggle to hold the proper angle with a flat stone line like that. Takes a lot of practice to get good and consistent at that sharpening motion.
Solution: I bought a Spyderco Triangle Sharpmaker from Amazon. What this style of product does is handle the angle work for you by design, offers a 30 degree and 40 degree edge. You simply take the triangular stones and slide them into the base so that they make a "v" shape, and then you sharpen the blade by keeping it verticle and dragging it towards yourself across the stones, alternating between sides stroke by stroke.
I really can't recommend this product enough. Although, to anyone who is interested, I found that I got the best results when I purchased an additional set of triangle stones that are the "ultra fine" grit. All told I think I spent $70 and now I don't have to focus on maintaining the exact angle with a whetstone.
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It's not what you asked for but these things really are idiot proof.
It really is a one time purchase that will sharpen everything for you.
Is that similar to this system? I'm trying to decide which system to get.
I have a few like that but the best (and easiest) one that I've ever tried is the Spyderco Tri-Angle.
The Henckles Professional S 4 piece starter set is what I started out with. BBB has a 20% off coupon which will get you under $200.
In hindsight, I should have really just bought this 2 piece set, a bread knife, and a Spyderco Sharpmaker. I don't really use the 6" utility (guests who are afraid of the big 8" chef knife often pick the smaller 6" for some reason to help when cooking), nor do I use the 9" 'sharpening tool'.
I regularly use the 8", 4", and breadknife several times each week and they are incredibly sharp. Hand wash. I resharpen every 6-12 months. They look brand new even after 5+ years of regular usage.
I would also suggest a magnetic knife strip to store your knifes on the wall instead of a wood block.
Buy this and you can sharpen damn near anything.
Not the one referenced, but this one has gotten solid reviews and helps a lot with regulating angles.
Spyderco Sharpmaker. Really easy to use, quality item, and you can find it on Amazon or on eBay for under $60.
I've also heard really good things about the Lansky system, specifically the 3-stone or 5-stone ones, which are also both under $60 on their website and for cheaper (<$40) on sites like eBay and Amazon.
[link] this is what I use on my knives and it works great and is really easy to use
You can actually get the Spyderco Tri-Angle Sharpmaker for $50 here.
Everything amroc987 said is great info. I don't really suggest getting a set but I suppose you could if you only got one of those smaller sets with only a couple knifes. Just don't go all out and get those 14 piece sets with a different knife for everything, it's unnecessary.
Like amroc987 said, for cutting boards only use wood or acrylic. It's up to you but you will see lots of stuff about people worried about cutting meat on a wooden cutting board because of a fear of bacteria and stuff. I wouldn't worry about it, if you clean it properly you will be fine but of course that's up to you. Acrylic ones aren't as easy on your knife but you can put em in the dishwasher to disinfect them.
Sharpening your knife is when it's so dull you actually need to shave off some steel to make a new edge. You should only need to do this every 6-12 months if you properly hone your knife. You can get it professionally done but it's pretty easy to do at home and then you save all that money.
Honing a knife is where you swipe it across your honing steel a few times on each side which straightens out your knifes edge, making it sharper, but it doesn't make a new edge like sharpening. Some people will say that you need to do it after or before you use your knife every single time. Don't worry about that but do it at least every few days or every week.
Here is a really good sharpener that is easy to use. It will be able to sharpen almost any knife you get from pocket knifes to chef knifes. The Spyderco Sharpmaker. A little expensive but it will last forever and save you the money of getting them professionally sharpened every 6-12 months.
Just pick out a honing steel from this list on Amazon. It doesn't really matter which one, just pick one you like and has good reviews.
Alright well, any other questions you have just let me or amroc987 know. We both would be glad to answer em.
Oh and watch this Good Eats episode. Alton Brown explains knifes pretty in depth.
Honestly for beginners I would suggest the Spyderco Sharpmaker. Easy to use and gives extremely good results.
After reading this great tutorial on sharpening, I decided to get the Spyderco Sharpmaker. Shop around for better prices.
I bought one of these for myself and my father several years ago:
> anyone claiming to sharpen serrated blades for a few dollars is lying--it's impossible with a machine or stone, and takes forever to do by hand
It's not impossible by hand. A buddy of mine who owns a shop filled with knives recommended the Spyderco triangle sharpener and it works wonderfully.
Anyone claiming to sharpen a dull serrated knife by hand for $8-$9 isn't necessarily lying, but they're going to be making less than minimum wage if they take the time to do it properly.