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I just bought some of these over getting the molex to sata connectors because I thought the risk for connecting some 8tb drives wasn't worth it. Hopefully the sata splitter is safer.
Still no. That cable is for the other direction - covert SATA power to PCIe power for video card.
What you need is a simple SATA power splitter. It convert one of your SATA power plug to power 3 more drives.
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E/
Hey dude.
I ended up buying 2 of these sata extensions. They are working really well with 10 x IronWolf 10TB drives so far
There's not usually much point in even attempting to convert that.
It would be easier to adapt a molex to SATA if you have a free one or to just split the normal SATA power cable you already have. https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E
Me after reading this question: that's silly, that should be really easy to find.
Me after checking Amazon: damn, they weren't kidding.
Closest I could find would be a SATA power splitter/extension cable that has all right-angle connectors. I wouldn't exceed five devices on one SATA power cable, but this should at least give you the right-angle connectors you're missing. The reviews seem very hit-or-miss (and if you're unlucky, the connectors might be the wrong way around for how your drives are installed) but not sure what else to recommend.
It should look like this one StarTech.com 15.7 in (400 mm) SATA Power Splitter Adapter Cable - M/F - 4x Serial ATA Power Cable Splitter (PYO4SATA) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_7CMY0BB3NSHR614CDNTJ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Either of those fan headers will work for the fans. Yes the sata cable plugs in to the power supply. I'm lazy with wires so I usually have something like this in the case. I just plugged it in to that. You don't need the hub if you don't want to mess with the lights, I left mine unplugged.
That's probably power for a cd/dvd drive
You have SATA power on the cable in your hand, get this to split the power for more drives
What do you think about this one? My PSU (good super flower branded), doesn’t have enough cables included when I plan to expand my array. Either I try to find the 8pin > sata that’s good quality , or splitter cables… but this is a sata to sata splitter.
StarTech.com 15.7 in (400 mm) SATA Power Splitter Adapter Cable - M/F - 4x Serial ATA Power Cable Splitter (PYO4SATA) https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_0H077XFNVRSK66XH0C8N?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Get a sata splitter like dis
ive read that this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0086OGN9E/ref=ox\_sc\_act\_title\_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 is a pretty reliable and safe splitter, i think im going to go with that as ive used this same exact one for a buddy's pc and they are still working great after a year
Unfortunately there isn't, I had to get a SATA power splitter adapter cable. Here is the link: StarTech SATA Splitter. It has worked perfectly for me!
The adapter with the firewire card is a molded SATA connection, which have been known to short out and catch fire. It's a low possiblity, but it still exists.
As for the cables you linked... I haven't used those, but I have used the 4 port ones in both of my file servers and they have been running fine for me.
See here: https://smile.amazon.com/SATA-Power-Splitter-Cable-Adapter/dp/B0086OGN9E/
Not sure why you got down voted....but you’re right. I bought four from amazon.it takes a sata power cable in and splits it to 4 outputs. I bought four for my freenas build in the l4500 case. link
Startech adapters. I got mine from amazon. It takes a sata power cable in and splits it to 4 outputs. I bought four for my freenas build in the l4500 case. link
That's what I was initially thinking of. But I read some comments of people that had problems with that kind of solution messing up their drives. Maybe it was in the past and things have gotten better? Maybe due to the quality of components? I didn't wanna risk it. Plus, it's almost the same cost as a SATA 3 card.
That's the most recent thing I found on Amazon that seemed like it could work for cheap. To just disconnect the whole extension instead of the drives themselves. Read they were safe too.
Yes, but hardly worth your time or the risk of damage to your components what you are making sells for $6 on Amazon.
StarTech.com 4x SATA Power Splitter Adapter Cable (PYO4SATA) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_y02oCbW43YMGV
They sell sata extenders they're not sketchy used them last month, basically adds +4 sata power StarTech.com 15.7 in (400 mm) SATA Power Splitter Adapter Cable - M/F - 4x Serial ATA Power Cable Splitter (PYO4SATA), Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_o6LtFbAR2B4V3
Get a SATA power splitter, like so:
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E
Plug it into the existing SATA power cable from the PSU, and then into the HD, SSD, and DVD (?), as long as their locations are close enough together to reach.
I have two or three of these. I've had one for a couple years and the others just over a year. Haven't had any problems with them and them seem solid.
I'm powering 5 old Hitachi 2TB drives and 3 WD 8TB reds.
StarTech 4X SATA Power Splitter Adapter Cable https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Al9OCbBR56GD1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0086OGN9E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
these all the way. they are rigid too so if you bend them they stay for the most part.
The R5 was on the table. actually better suited since it has the Perfect amount of bays. but that price tag ughhh. Also this case would be cool for a daily driver case. It has a hot swap 3.5 drive bay on the top. its weird to see on a case
If I needed it now, yes.
Otherwise, I'd just use this SATA power splitter instead. Specifically the 1 to 4x splitter. The other ones are the dangerous variety.
Ah ok. For some reason I was thinking you had a modular psu but forgot a store bought pc prob wouldn’t. You can always get more sata power splitter. My psu is modular but I’ve already run out of power options and need to get a splitter like this StarTech.com 4x SATA Power Splitter Adapter Cable (PYO4SATA) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_MmJLAbVG5R700.
HDDs, SSDs, fans, and AIOs all require low amperage. Using a splitter should be fine if your have a sufficient 12v rail on your PSU.
I recommend specifically the StarTech <strong>4 way</strong> SATA power splitter. These splitters splice into the wire, making them safer than the kind that have the plastic molded around the pins. The other two splitters on the page I linked are NOT safe. Use ONLY the 4 way splitter.
You could get SATA power splitter or a new power supply (probably TFX size).
You can add more sata data cables with sata PCIE card or raid card (M1015 flashed to IT).
I'm not sure that you will fit more than 3 normal size hdd into that case though.
StarTech.com SATA power splitter
These are the safer connectors where they are spliced. Your PSU has plenty of amperage on the 12v rail to support additional drives.
I bought a SATA power splitter (https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E) and then just cut the wire on the side with the L shaped bit. It's honestly easier to just do that (scissors to cut the wire + some tape to insulate) and it's only 7 bucks.
I've actually been using two of these (https://www.amazon.ca/StarTech-com-PYO4SATA-Power-Splitter-Adapter/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1505935424&sr=1-2&keywords=sata+to+sata+splitter) for the past two years in my NAS. I've got 9 hard drives and 2 SSDs powered from a 450W PSU, and haven't had a single issue at all with connectors feeling hot, PSU shutting down, etc. This is over an extended period, with drives being accessed concurrently at maximum speeds.
It's alright to use sata power splitters, but the type you linked are known to literally melt and burn. Don't get the type where the cables are molded into the connector. You can identify them by the cable running straight into the connector, rather than at a right angle. You want a splitter that uses sata connectors with crimp on taps. Those are solid. Like This.
If you already have a standard SATA cable plugged into a hard drive, unplug it and use a splitter like this 4x power splitter. Try some google searches for the model # and the port # (r11) and maybe throw in "hdd/odd" for good measure. You could also call your manufacturer (Dell?) and ask them.
The adapter cable only splits the power from the PSU. All the HDDs got their own sata cable to the motherboard so they all show up as induvidual disks. They look like this.
I've done servers with cables like that first one (though from Monoprice, I think), and they work fine. I used power cables like this, though you may have to find ones that bend the right directions or something for your use case.
I think that red/black cable is to hook your SAS card up to the board, or lights, or something so you the blinken lights on the front of your server. Not really necessary.
wow, thanks duly noted. I been using these: https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1482938279&sr=1-3&keywords=sata+power+splitter
how nervous would you be with sata power splitters? startech's not too bad a brand right? ....RIGHT? haha
If you have at least some sata power, you can get 1sata-to-4sata power splitters like this: https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E/
Due to how they have to be made (crimped, not molded) they should be fine.
I share your fear of molex to sata splitter so I rely on these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-Power-Splitter-Adapter-Cable/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=sr_1_12?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1477165332&sr=1-12&keywords=startech+sata
Saw they got good reviews and have been great for me!
I did get more than 4 drives installed, I have 4 in the hot swap bays and one SSD that is sitting inside the case that I run my windows server on. The SSD is just hooked up to a SATA port on the motherboard, as for power I bought a sata x1 -> sata x4 connector and I am using that to power the drive. The system treats it just like a normal drive at this point and it's working just like I want it to.
I bought a H700 on ebay for ~$100 and just swapped it out and it came with a new cable that just hooked up to the back on the backplate on the hot swap bays. Raid controller takes care of my 4x4TB drives set in raid 5 with ease, no issues there.
I think I hit all your questions, feel free to let me know if this is confusing.
Do you think monoprice would be more trust worthy with these adaptors? e.g.
www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=8799
www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=8793
While looking at adaptors I also saw these SATA power splitter. Are they more suitable for OP's need or splitting 4 way is even worst?
www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E/
I added another hard drive and a disc drive to my pc, can I just get one of these to extend my power or should I get another cable to go directly from the power supply? If so where are those - Or is it just one -power-to-one-SATA and then I'll need another splitter anyway?
Cables like these that give you 4 SATA power connectors out of one molex connector, I've seen one with 6x SATA before, but I can't find it anymore, I hope I will. And then just a PSU with enough molex connectors, I guess. I think there might be some aftermarket cables for modular PSUs too, I don't know, it would make sense... But you could probably use more than one PSU to power all the drives, maybe that's a good idea anyway.
Pretty much no power supply is going to have enough connectors for a substantial number of drives. That's hardly important, though. 4:1 or 5:1 splitters are cheap and easy to come by. (That one is $6.69 right now.)
Also, one of the advantages of using a chassis with a backplane is that it saves you dealing with an enormous wiring harness.
You may, however, eventually run into other limitations of your power supply. (This is unlikely with 15 drives and a 650W PSU, however.) For example, how many rails does your power supply have, and what are their individual maximum wattages? (3.5" hard drives primary draw from the 12V rails.) There may be less than the full 650W available to your hard drives.
You will also see large current spikes at boot, when all of the drives try to spin up at the same time. The machine may fail to boot if this draw exceeds the power supply's capacity (again, either on those particular rails or overall). This can be mitigated by using staggered spin-up, which requires either controller/OS support or MacGyvering. (One of the pins in the SATA connector tells the drive not to spin up immediately when power is applied.)
All of that having been said, though, unless you have other complaints about your PSU, a few cables is probably the right fix.
If you're dead set on replacing it, then you should be most interested in power supplies with high efficiency at the load that you expect. (Do some math but also take some measurements, and then look at the PSU's datasheet. The single efficiency number that will be advertised on the product's website or box assumes that it is almost fully loaded.) Power supplies are also differentiated by features like active PFC (power factor correction).
If you're looking for a specific suggestion, I've had good luck with the EarthWatts series.
Good luck!
FYI you can overcome this issue for 4 drives with a $5 part from Amazon without having to deal with tiny pieces of tape on conductors or worse, physically modifying the PSU cables/drive... https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=sata+power+chain&qid=1605041528&s=electronics&sr=1-3
Just cut the wire that is not needed and insulate it with something to avoid a short, much less hacky than trying to precisely place a tiny piece of tape AND keep it in position down the road when you need to unplug it for some reason.
Sata power splitters should work.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0086OGN9E/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Sata power cabkes look like this splitter: StarTech - PYO4SATA .com 15.7-Inch (400mm) SATA Power Splitter Adapter Cable - M/F - 4x Serial ATA Power Cable Splitter (PYO4SATA) Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_WMK83K71FC2HKHHA1ARH?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 SATA data cables look like this: BENFEI SATA Cable III, 3 Pack SATA Cable III 6Gbps 90 Degree Right Angle with Locking Latch 18 Inch for SATA HDD, SSD, CD Driver, CD Writer - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JW9RMTG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_47SF698ECVGHQ5NQTHT3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Don't use cables from a different PSU. Never do that.
This is a common problem, the solution is to buy sata power cable extenders.
You can also plug in another sata power cable from your own psu. so that the entire string is powering only one thing, ie the ssd.
If you don't have another sata power connector, you have to buy a adapter.
sata to sata
molex to sata
Yup that's normal. Cables are not provided with any drives except the external USB kind. Any SATA cable will do the trick.
You can also get SATA power splitters which will turn a single SATA Power connector into two or more, you will generally need to get these if you have a proprietary pre-built machine, such as those from HP, Dell, Asus, Acer etc, as they tend to only supply enough to feed a single drive and sometimes a CD/DVD which is also becoming rare now, CD/DVD is on its way out the door.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-B5196-Power-Splitter-Adapter/dp/B0086OGN9E
it's a cable comming from the power supply something like this https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E
I got a Slimline SATA to normal SATA power/data cable, then used normal SATA power splitters from there.
Like this one: https://i.imgur.com/6t1jmPs.png, and then something like this: https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E
But i got one with shorter spacings.
What do you need the SATA power for? With a low enough power draw you could probably just use a 4x SATA power splitter.
If you do need wall power you're going to want to either jumper a standard ATX power supply to turn on or get something like a molex AC adapter and use a molex to SATA converter.
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I think the issue is your PSU in your new system will not power on the drive due to it being 'shucked' and the drive looking for specific power pinout or something. This was common issue when pulling drives from USB external enclosures and trying to use them as a regular hard drive in PC.
Here is video link that has details on how to get it to work with your new PC's PSU SATA power:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W3-uOl4ruc
Look up how "3rd SATA pin and shucking HD" and you'll see this same solution. Another one I think you can is get a SATA to SATA splitter cable, like this:
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E.
A possible 3rd solution is, people also recommended getting a 4-pin molex to SATA cable like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-3-Pack-Molex-Power/dp/B00STNUB04/
I feel confident this is your issue with new PC not powering on the drive. Doing one of the above should get it to power on with your new PC.
Kind of a janky way of doing things, but you could always get an external SSD and hook it up to a USB port if you have any free ports.
Or I would do what the other user mentioned and get a SATA Y cable so you can use the same line for multiple hard drives. That’s what a lot of new PSUs do now anyways, so as long as you don’t have too much power draw you should be fine.
Something like this
Or this
I would just make sure they are compatible with your connection. I’m not sure how old the pc / HDD you are using are.
Could look at something like this: https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3S25VLUDQ845V
This would give the power cable an orientation that would fit in that case.
I use these
You can get SATA power Y/splitter cables, to connect two/four drives to one power connector, https://smile.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E and even MOLEX-to-SATA Y cables to supply two drives from a MOLEX connector https://smile.amazon.com/TeamProfitcom-Splitter-Converter-Adapter-Extension/dp/B08M97W978. Prefer to use power cables with crimped-on connectors that you can inspect. Pre-molded/encapsulated connectors can't be inspected and high resistance connections can lead and have led to overheating, even fires.
I've built several systems with Silverstone SST-CP06-E4 cables, that include capacitors on the 12V and 5V power leads, but the capacitors are embedded in the input connector, and I'm not seeing these available at the same price level I paid. I've appreciated that the output connectors were easy to move and add to fit 5 drives packed together in a 3x5.25"-to-5x3.5" SATA drive bracket such as https://smile.amazon.com/Stainless-Steel-Drive-Computer-Driver/dp/B08DSD5XFK/
A single drive takes about 20W at spin up and 10W active or idle, with most of the power supplied at 12V - so if you get the 12V specification for your power supply, and budget 2A per drive, you can figure out how many drives your power supply can handle, once you've accounted for your motherboard needs.
I use 1000W-1200W power supplies to 24-drive boxes. An 850W supply, if it doesn't have separated 12V rails, is probably fine for about 12-15 drives. If there's separate 12V rails for various uses, you have to figure out what each rail supplies.
You need 2 cables, sata power and sata 3 connector. Sata power should come with the PSU, it’s the wider connection, the sata 3 connector is narrower and should come included with the PSU as well but sometimes comes with the motherboard too.
Power cable usually looks like this:
StarTech.com 15.7 in (400 mm) SATA Power Splitter Adapter Cable - M/F - 4x Serial ATA Power Cable Splitter (PYO4SATA) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_navT_a_K4YK6526H6KE4GRZECK1
Sata connection usually looks like this:
SATA Cable III, Benfei SATA Cable III 6Gbps Straight HDD SDD Data Cable with Locking Latch 18 Inch Compatible for SATA HDD, SSD, CD Driver, CD Writer - Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07TB5QBPK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_QJC4KM79RGME8MJFQ13Q?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
There’s usually a bay to fit 2.5 drives on the back panel too (magnets or small bolt to attach.
StarTech - PYO4SATA .com 15.7-Inch (400mm) SATA Power Splitter Adapter Cable - M/F - 4x Serial ATA Power Cable Splitter (PYO4SATA) Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_XFMVGDFVB0WD4RCFGJYD?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I've never seen an 8 or 10 SATA power cable. I've only ever seen 4 sata power on one cable.
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E/
How about this version? https://www.amazon.com/Startech-Com-PYO2SATA-6-Inch-Splitter-Adapter-M/dp/B0086OGN9E?th=1
It looks like I need right angle connectors to the hard disk since I'll be using a Thermalright AK120 tower cooler. I need every bit of space and the right angle connectors would make it so that the cables won't interfere with the front pushing fan of the cooler, at least I hope my measurements are correct.
This is what I got for the SAS cable: https://www.ebay.ph/itm/283498213088
For the power connectors, do you think this will work given the back to back orientation of the hard drives? https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=sr\_1\_20?keywords=sata+male+to+female+right+angle+power+splitter&qid=1637776348&sr=8-20
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This is the one I use but any should work fine. https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E
There's a good detailed thread about it on serverbuilds, just search 3.3v on there and it should come right up
Just get a SATA splitter, something like this 4 way sata splitter would do the job perfectly: https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E/
Nah it won't hurt anything. The unassigned disks plugin just lets you see disks that aren't yet part of the array, like if you were to plug an external hard drive into a USB port to copy some data on to or from the unraid server it'd let you access that disk which you wouldn't be able to do otherwise. It's a very useful tool pretty much everybody installs at some point.
In the past I had a couple drives not show up in Unraid and it was because some drives use a pin on their Sata connector that Unraid doesn't work well with.
This thread has more info on it but you can test it by either putting a bit of nonconducting tape on the offending pin or do what I did and sacrifice a Sata cable like this: https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E
If you cut one of the wires on that sata splitter cable, I forget which one but it's in that thread, it'll disable that offending pin on the drive without you having to either tape it or scrape it off, neither of which appealed to me.
https://forums.unraid.net/topic/84038-so-your-new-sas-or-sata-drive-wont-start-spin-up/
Should look something like this. If you might have to plug it into your PSU if you have a modular one.
Something like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0086OGN9E/ but maybe of better reviews
Ok, I'm not defo not explaining it properly. It's not the connection, it's the wire I was describing as in a Line/Z shape... I have them connected and they're working fine but the shape of the wire is wrong.
The ones I have look like this, it means I cannot seat my SSDs flush onto the bottom of my S340 case. You can see the two bays there. The previous SATA power cables looked like this and as a result I could connect them and have the drives screwed into the bottom because of how the connectors came off the wire. If that makes sense?
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I'm looking to get that shape again, but ones that are compatible with my new PSU as I've heard lots of reports saying that this and that aren't compatible with the Corsair PSUs
ive used extensions/splitters such as this to good effect.
sorry if i confused everyone but i think that might be it? is it one of these? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0086OGN9E
I apologize I am having difficulty explaining it the way I wanted.
So I think it's cable one (has 2 SATA connectors and a 4 pin molex), for the longest time it was just used for the SSD ( my wife just wanted a computer for study, so nothing fancy). She then saw on pictures that there can be rainbow lights so wanted me to install it for her)
When I bought the fans, I connected the RGB hub to that same cable, since I needed an extra SATA connector, I connected a 2nd cable to the PSU that has 3 SATA connectors, which I used one of them for the lighting node.
the SSD only works if it's connected to cable 1, but not on the 2nd cable nor the 3rd. Also, the lighting also only works if it's connected to cable 1 but without the SSD.
If You get a sata power splitter make sure it is NOT a moulded one
Like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-B5196-Power-Splitter-Adapter/dp/B0086OGN9E/
and not this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Modeshell-2-Pack-Splitter-Female-Extension/dp/B07PRSWY5L/
Hey man!
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E
I have this sata power cable connected to my primary ssd. Is it safe for me to use it with my 2nd ssd?
Like these?
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E
Is there a limit on how many you can daisy chain?
Sorry. I just realized you said power cables. Give me a second.
Edit: try this
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E
https://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-B5196-Power-Splitter-Adapter/dp/B0086OGN9E/
there you go. Dont get molded cables as they're a fire hazard
Yeah. It's a pretty simple process.
The only trick is the 3.3v pin
Some people use kapton tape, some use molex to SATA adapters, but I use these SATA to SATA adapters and created my own in-line connector without the 3.3v wire so taping isn't necessary and any new drive I just shuck and throw in without any fuss.
If you use a SATA power splitter, you only need one for each four drives. Cut or remove the wire closest to pin 1 (The end closest to the registration tab). This one has crimp-on connectors, preferred over molded connectors, and it's fairly easy to remove wires or reposition the connectors. https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E/
This one has extra capacitors between 12V-to-GND and 5V-to-GND. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ENKYJB4/
Or choose a SATA power splitter with a 4P Molex connector, and then there's no wire to cut or remove. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073ZX5RWG
[YTF did they make the PWDIS an active-high signal? If the standards group had specified an internal resistor pull-up and made it opposite polarity, the whole issue would have been moot, as the drive would be enabled if either 3.3V was supplied or the pin left open.]
Not really much in terms of suggestions, other than that eBay is your friend for such things.
You'd want 3 SFF-8080 to SFF-8087 ports (e.g. 2 of these), some SFF-8087 to SATA cables (e.g. this), and likely a few sata power expanders (I've found StarTek's to work fine). On the host machine, you'd want an SFF-8088 HBA (e.g. this).
You will need to find some way to connect the on/off switch on the case turn the PSU on & off. There's a thousand ways to do that from simply connecting the switch cables to the 24-pin connector (could modify one of these) to just throwing a cheap mobo in there (doesn't need a CPU), which has the added benefit of having fan headers. There's also purpose-built options like the SuperMicro CB2 board.
I've never built in a 2U unit, but I'd imagine finding a compatible PSU that doesn't sound like a jet engine might be an issue. No real advice on that front, but just something to keep in mind.
Here is a document by WD that should shed some light on what the compatibility issue is.
https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/collateral/tech-brief/tech-brief-western-digital-power-disable-pin.pdf
The 'molded' adapter cables are not as reliable and can short due to poor quality control. You could just remove the 3.3v power wire from the power supply to each of the power connectors. Or if you want to preserve the warranty on the PSU then you could get one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0086OGN9E
Pull the cap (It snaps on and off) on each male plug and remove the 3.3v power wire and pins then on the female adapter end just cut the 3.3v power wire.... replace the caps.
That way you do not have to mess with the tape.... Just my $.02
The cable I can't get to reach looks like this
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E
That's different from the data cables, right?
Can you split a molex or sata into more? How about something like thishttps://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E
Get something like this and you should be good to go
Then an alternative would be one of those daisy chain style of data connectors like this https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=sata+power&qid=1599355122&sr=8-3
There are two cables you need to connect to SATA drives. One (the wider of the two) is a power cable. It provides power from the power supply to the drive. These can be chained from one drive to another like you describe.
The second cable is the data cable, it's smaller and the cable is often (not always) colored red. This connects the now powered drive to your computer, usually into the motherboard directly, although some computers like pre-builts may have separate SATA connectors on small boards known as risers, or expansion cards.
Now that we've established what we're talking about, I'm going to tell you some things about each type of cable that can hopefully answer some of your questions.
For power cables:
- Yes you can connect them and chain them
- If you don't have enough available you can get a splitter, if you use too many of these you can overload your power supply, but one or two should be okay
- The order these are connected in makes no real difference
For data cables:
- Chaining these is not possible in most cases
- Each data cable must go to a separate receptacle on your motherboard or whatever other SATA risers or cards you can find
- If you don't have enough SATA connectors available on your motherboard or elsewhere, you need to buy an expansion card that connects to one of your motherboard's PCIe expansion slots.
- If you don't have enough SATA data cables, you can usually buy more pretty cheap. Some of them have L-shaped plugs, this can cause a problem if you are plugging them into ports that are tightly spaced together. On the other hand, it can be convenient if you are trying to install them in a cramped drive bay. Use your own discretion and judgement on which shape to get.
- Yes if you change the connectors or cables your drives are plugged into you can potentially cause them to be detected in a different order. I believe Windows is less stupid about this in modern times but it certainly used to be a problem.
- If needed you can change drive letters (other than C:\) in Windows by running the Disk Management console: Win+R -> "diskmgmt.msc"
- Yes connecting data cables to different connectors can cause speed differences depending on what controller is responsible for those ports. Usually the ports on your motherboard are numbered -- the lowest numbered ports (eg, SATA-1, SATA-2, etc) are usually part of the CPU or chipset's built-in storage controller, are electronically closest to the CPU, and will usually be the fastest.
Hope that clears some things up.
With the adapter I showed you, I assumed you had MOLEX already attached to the PSU or got some MOLEX adapters with the PSU in the box. The way the adapter works is it plugs into SATA to read and write data to and from the drive and the drive needs power to run so it's powered via an integrated MOLEX to SATA adatpter.
If you don't have any MOLEX adapters readily available, you can use SATA power splitters off of the already existing SATA power cables and SATA data cables to connect and power the drive.
SATA power splitter: https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E
SATA cable: https://www.amazon.com/12in-SATA-Serial-ATA-Cable/dp/B003WV5DK6
I use these with the 3.3v wire completely removed
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_gLUiFbKW1TCSE
If you power supply can handle it, this will do the trick.
Buy this
Then use the push-on connectors to attach as many as these as you wish
Just cut off the other SATA connector
You could add extensions.
StarTech.com 15.7 in (400 mm) SATA Power Splitter Adapter Cable - M/F - 4x Serial ATA Power Cable Splitter (PYO4SATA), Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Ir1cFbNBH4XM6 looks like that
I couldn’t access your image.
Here’s a related link regarding your port question
Here’s a link for sata power splitting.
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E
One of these guys would split the SATA power for you.
Your motherboard probably doesn't have 8 sata ports for the 8 bays, so if you want to populate all of those you'll need Forward Breakout cable(s) and a HBA card. You'll also probably need a power splitter to daisy chain power to the HDDs. For now though you could just use what sata ports you have then buy these things as you run out of room. The Forward Breakout and power splitter cables can be reused in the future. If you have the physical room then the 8 bays can also be connected to a cheap NAS/DAS. Most start small then improve and upgrade as time passes. With another processor you avoid potential VM mess and just run it directly baremetal. Ebay does have some slight gotchas here and there, especially shipping costs. There is great value in buying used, but it does suck to look for deals every few days or weekly until you find something what you are looking for and at the right price. A cheap NAS works well with OMV4, but FreeNAS/ZFS might need a bump up in hardware. If you have different sized drives then you have to do some extra planning because I believe a ZFS vdev requires all the same size HDDs and Snapraid (Windows or OMV4) will require you to use your biggest drives as parity. ZFS raidzs can be costly to expand, that is why some recommend mirrored vdevs but then you lose 50% capacity and that is where Snapraid and Snapraid parity comes in. With most of these setups, if too many things go wrong then you lose everything. With Snapraid, everything is JBOD so all is not lost (unRAID is JBOD but it has a catch on what OS can read the disks I believe); however Snapraid isn't a data pooling solution so you'll need Stablebit, OMV4, etc. The other option is minimal onsite storage and Rsync everything to G Drive then once uploaded delete the local storage then you use a VPS with a media front to host everything (Risky but the cheapest method in the long run). There is a decent post on how to set that up (it's a lot to read and some thing changed), plus some people are leaving Plex and moving to Jellyfin so there is that also.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0086OGN9E/
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/d0187f/i_need_a_nas_suggestion/ez6ze4z/
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/cztdnm/jdm_loves_dell_t110_ii_case_for_nas/
https://www.serverbuilds.net/the-original-nas-killer-v10
https://www.serverbuilds.net/145-nas-killer-v20
https://www.serverbuilds.net/nas-killer-v30
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/cvbs8y/mediasonic_hd_enclosure/
https://www.serverbuilds.net/16-bay-das
http://www.snapraid.it/faq#howmanypar
https://forums.plex.tv/t/local-plex-cloud-with-google-drive/335018
There is lots of good info already posted on here over the years but it gets buried fast. Some have posted neat projects and setups, but ironically enough it's tough to find these things. You pretty much gotta get lucky with searches, on top of hours and days worth of reading... Different setups fall out of favor and others rise up, as time goes on and projects get abandoned and others get fixed up. Plus combining that with lots of good information on other site's forums...
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/cetqis/the_flexraid_site_is_down_now/
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/6vgaz7/unraid_vs_freenas/
https://blog.linuxserver.io/tag/perfectmediaserver/
CloudDrive is $40 or in the bundle sale with Stablebit Drivepool for $60... I've also seen NASLite posted some (and that Tonido looks interesting). Both look like an automated-like Rsync. Rsync is the best, however it does require more time to learn.
https://stablebit.com/CloudDrive
http://www.serverelements.com/?target=Introduction_to_NASLite_Disk_Mirroring
It might seem like Snapraid is the clear way to go, but there is still a moderate learning curve to wrap your head around, plus tweaking that setup, getting a system down, and automating what you can. There are different methods to manage it: manually editing the config file, using Elucidate GUI, or swapping over to OMV4 OS (VM or baremetal). OMV4 might even be the easiest way to manage it.
https://github.com/Smurf-IV/Elucidate
https://www.reddit.com/r/Snapraid/comments/d3ezb5/unsure_about_snapraid_setup_would_love_some_help/
https://sourceforge.net/p/snapraid/discussion/1677233/thread/e683d40e0a/
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/adcqor/snapraiddrivepool_best_practice/
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/a4vvx5/question_for_all_you_drivepool_snapraid_people/
I'd also recommend looking at some screenshots and videos. FreeNAS and unRAID youtube content seems more dispersed, so you'll have to go fish.
https://www.freenas.org/about/screenshots/
https://craftassets.unraid.net/uploads/featured-image/_1200xAUTO_crop_center-center_95_none/unraid_screenshot.png?mtime=20180827231443
https://www.openmediavault.org/screenshots.html
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX2Vhc0LIzSS9aMzhGFZ7PA/videos
https://stablebit.com/DrivePool/Screenshots
https://stablebit.com/CloudDrive
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E
https://www.amazon.com/Latching-Power-Splitter-Cable-Adapter/dp/B00BBDL17G
Get a SATA power splitter. Don't mess around with unknown power plugs.
you buy this cable: 4x SATA splitter cable
each of the adapters actually has a plastic housing on the back that you snap on and off. You unsnap the housings and literally rip out the 3.3v wire (the 1st wire, on the notch/elbow side). Snap the housings back on, and done.
I think I'll give these 1xSATA to 4xSATA splitter cables a try... Has anyone had any good or bad experiences to share? thx!
https://smile.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E/
Daisy chaining SATA power should be fine: StarTech.com 4x SATA Power Splitter Adapter Cable (PYO4SATA) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0086OGN9E/ Better than molex to SATA, imo. For as long as the power supply supports the load.
Molded sata power connecters are no good. You want a cable like this https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E/
I'm an arsehole, but I jammed 9 SSD drives in one of my r210 ii machines, another r210 ii I jammed in 6 SSDs and 1 3.5" spinner. Ugly as any homelab should be, the lit fits.
I use the folloiwng in most all the r210 ii machines:
- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0086OGN9E/
- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MZBDDPM/
- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016498CK0/
- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018YHS8BS/
- https://www.ebay.com/itm/LSI-LOGIC-SAS9201-8i-PCIE-PCI-EXPRESS-6-GB-6GB-2-0-RAID-CARD-45W9122-LP/292608833017
6 SSDs and 1 spinner, from the Proxmox Drives interface
9 SSDs , from the Proxmox Drives interface
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TataDaUNEFc
It's the crappy adapter that short circuit, no matter what it's connected to.
You can also use a SATA splitter instead.
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E
Use a splitter if you really run out of SATA power plugs.
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E
I usually sent people to this one.
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E
Not those. Molded SATA plugs like those are famous for arcing and starting fires. Something like this is significantly safer.
Maybe longer than what you want but here's one.
What do you think about those here?
These are the ones I was thinking of getting:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0086OGN9E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Looks like they are the better option you suggested?
Would something like this work? https://primenow.amazon.com/dp/B0086OGN9E?qid=1503347081&m=A26W2L43XMH2BQ&sr=1-0&ref_=pn_sr_sg_0_img_A26W2L43XMH2BQ#customerReviews
Its on Prime now so I could get it in a few hours
Sorry, here is a link to the regular Amazon page.
Hmm, I use something like this on a Corsair 750D but the cables on mine have smaller spaces than the product page on Amazon so they're a better fit for drive caddies. (the one I used I got from a local computer store)
Could you use this which comes in a 2 pack: https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Pack-Power-Splitter/dp/B012BPLW08/
not likely, but you can just get a splitter
Just use a SATA power splitter?
You can either A) build a cheap server for ~400 or B) use a sata splitter like this
What is a sata extender? How about this
oh duh i copied and pasted, it was a link in the original.
i bought this splitter for the SATA power cables
Can use this to split out the sata end. http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapter-PYO4SATA/dp/B0086OGN9E/
"might" be able to use this for power as well. It'll be ugly though lol http://www.amazon.ca/StarTech-com-PYO4SATA-Power-Splitter-Adapter/dp/B0086OGN9E/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1447183085&sr=1-1&keywords=sata+power+cable
I more or less found what I was looking for. Helps when you know it is called sata power and not hard drive power cable.
But safe or not? Sorry if mobile link, on phone
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