That is good info, thanks for mentioning it. Both samples do sound almost exactly the same.
Fyi for anyone interested: Why Don't Zebras Get Ulcers is a free 30 minute video (first in a Great Courses series). I'm not sure if this is only free for Amazon Prime members, or everyone. Here's the link: https://www.amazon.com/Why-Dont-Zebras-Get-Ulcers/dp/B00P4PW9BY
I suggest, "Stress and Your Body". I listened to the 12 hour lecture, but there are also videos and a book. I think I learned more from that than from the body keeps the score. I know some in the cptsd community have said they couldn't get through the body keeps the score, because it was too triggering.