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I've been seeing a lot of people talk about this converter around this subreddit often, displays over 60hz and has no lag people claim. Perfect solution for people with digital only gpu's trying to use a crt monitor to it's fullest potential.
Sadly I don't know of any USB-C to VGA adapters that won't get out of range easily. Though I've seen people recommend this HDMI to VGA adapter because of no noticeable processing latency and fewer distortion artifacts. As always, cheap adapters can be kind of a gamble so be aware of that
Nowadays people prefer to use a DisplayPort to VGA adapters because these kinds of adapters can drive CRT at up to 120 Hz easily
Tendak Active 1080P Female HDMI to VGA Male Converter Adapter Dongle with 3.5mm Stereo Audio Portable HDMI Connector for Laptop PC PS3 Xbox STB Blu-ray DVD TV Stick https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B7CEOVK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_E2YVF7XN92S3CWMDQ4AE
I’ve seen this one recommended by people. Haven’t tested it myself, but I personally ordered one yesterday!
Awesome, thanks, I am very curious how 16:9 hdmi works with a vga monitor, is there anything special i would need to do or would the monitor give me black bars? Here is the VGA adapter I am looking at. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B7CEOVK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I was thinking about using this as a retro pi monitor. Pairing it with a hdmi to vga adapter:
Tendak Active 1080P Female HDMI to VGA Male Converter Adapter Dongle with 3.5mm Stereo Audio Portable HDMI Connector for Laptop PC PS3 Xbox STB Blu-ray DVD TV Stick https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B7CEOVK/
Do you happen to know why some adapters don't work with the genesis core? I'm using this Tendak adapter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B7CEOVK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apan_glt_i_VMFKH160FN39BKWWNS3S?_encoding=UTF8&psc=.
I double checked and scandoubler was turned off and I couldn't find any genesis specific settings in Mister.ini. I did a lot more testing of cores and I found that the Turbografx core and a ton of arcade cores do the exact same thing as the Genesis core, but also a ton of arcade and console cores work just fine. Do you think my adapter just doesn't like the specific video signal the nonfunctioning cores are sending out?
I am only using direct video as a placeholder until my analog io board shows up, but I would like to have direct video figured out in case dual ram stick setups do indeed end up being required to run the Playstation and Saturn cores.
Not the same dude, but you want the tendak hdmi to vga converter. Cheap, lag free and it seperates audio to a 3.5mm.
I have one hooked up with my eon Mk2 with the component going to an SD set. Best of both worlds depending on what I'm in the mood for. That tendak converter looks great.
Flip it to TV and hook it up with composite (or s-video if that supports it) video for now. Then go and pick this up: Tendak Active 1080P Female HDMI to VGA Male Converter Adapter Dongle with 3.5mm Stereo Audio Portable HDMI Connector for Laptop PC PS3 Xbox STB Blu-ray DVD TV Stick https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B7CEOVK/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_VR2B8BR75CEBQAMZ88M8
You'd want to run 720p/1080p (make sure you shrink the image vertically so it's not stretched from widescreen) and make sure all games with 60fps modes are using them. You want an HDMI to VGA adapter like this one:
What adapter are you using? My favorite is this one.
If you use retroarch, I'd try black frame insertion at 120hz. You'll get amazing input lag and motion clarity if you set it up right!
I think I got it!! Thanks soo much for the help!!
I have questions about lcd controll boards if its not too much to ask.
You can also use one of these if you just need a 3.5mm jack. This is what I am using currently and it works well. Note that the VGA output port does not need to be plugged in.
I've done some more reading, theoretically something like this should work lag free as I don't believe it has a frame buffer.
I can't be sure it would be suitable though still as I don't have one
Gotcha! The other people recommending transcoder are right on the money. Only 3 of those cables are relevant for video. Vga can't carry audio.
If this is all you want to do there are a lot easier ways. Why not use hdmi output from the PS3 and use an HDMI to VGA adapter.
The two popular recommendations are the screw in tendak, https://www.amazon.com/Tendak-Converter-Adapter-Portable-Connector/dp/B01B7CEOVK/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=tendak+hdmi+vga&qid=1557200798&s=gateway&sr=8-3, good for up to ~165MHz pixel clock, or if you need higher than that the Sunix DPU3000, good for 300+, although not sure where to still buy them, gone from Amazon now.
The Rokus have audio output like that, but it's all done via the remote control, so it probably wouldn't be a good solution for you.
With the nVidia Shield it would be possible to add a USB DAC for something other than HDMI audio, but it'd be an added expense. You could probably optionally replace the converter to one that will also do audio. I came across this adapter doing a quick search on Amazon. I'm a bit leery because it appears to be a passive adapter, but on the face of it, it looks almost exactly like what you want. The alternative is that this is a perfect excuse to upgrade your home theater equipment, budget permitting.
Anyway, all modern streaming devices can downmix surround audio into stereo without trouble. Just make sure none of the audio settings are set to surround sound and you should be fine.
I've used similar converters, but never with a CRT. It looks like the monitor doesn't quite like the sync coming off of the converter.
For CRT monitor use, I've had good luck with this little Tendak one and I know a few other people that have used them with good results. And as a bonus, the design of it makes it easy to leave attached to the monitor.
If you have an ossc you could try a simple hdmi to vga adapter and use the av3 input on the ossc. I'm using the eon gchd mk-ii so I just use rgb scart out.
This is the most popular one.
HDMI to VGA converters don't have any lag but some of them crush blacks. This converter was recommended by people on this subreddit and shmups forum and I'm really happy with the picture.
Tendak Active 1080P Female HDMI to VGA Male Converter Adapter Dongle with 3.5mm Stereo Audio Portable HDMI Connector for Laptop PC PS3 Xbox STB Blu-ray DVD TV Stick https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B7CEOVK
and it worked like a magic!! Thanks for your help
If you decide to buy an Open Source Scan Converter (OSSC) and the Tendak HDMI-to-VGA converter stick, you can use it to convert 480i into formats that a good PC CRT could use. Basically, the OSSC+Tendak route opens up a huge amount of options for using consoles with PC CRTs- and not just with 480i and 480p content. I can tell you more about it if you are interested.
If you are going to get a PC CRT, make sure to test it out first. A lot of these were just left on all the time on full brightness and full contrast by people who didn't care or know any better and as a result are really dim. I try to make sure that the test images I use on PC CRTs are reasonably visible at 35%-50% brightness and contrast ranges.
Would there be a major decrease in quality even though I think I am streaming at 720(Fire TV display setting to possibly limit bandwidth usage) on a native 1080 monitor?
I think Id get one of these if there wouldnt be any problem: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B7CEOVK
Tendak Active 1080P Female HDMI to VGA Male Converter Adapter Dongle with 3.5mm Stereo Audio portable HDMI Connector for Laptop PC PS3 Xbox STB Blu-ray DVD TV Stick https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B7CEOVK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_HAOZzbZJ7YJRR
Haven't had any issues.
This is the free Viewsonic P225fb I picked up, I got this adapter: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B7CEOVK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Which works well for this purpose.
UltraHDMI is set to 480p direct mode (linedoubled) and it looks pristine.
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Check this out: http://www.amazon.com/Tendak-Converter-portable-Connector-Projector/dp/B01B7CEOVK%3Fpsc%3D1%26SubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-iphone-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB01B7CEOVK
The one I always recommend using is this:
It's not as dirt cheap as possible, but 15 is pretty fair for something that just straight up works and adds no lag.
Something like these examples should be perfect:
Tendak Active 1080P Female HDMI to VGA Male Converter
VGA to HDMI Adapter Converter with Audio
I'm thinking a Retrotink 2X-Mini with an HDMI to VGA converter is what you need.
I have used one of these to go from PS3/XBox360 to CRT and it works well, I don't know if PS4 sends HDCP signals because then it might not work so well.
Sorry if I came off a bit crass...I didn't even see you were using a powered convertor.
So a passive convertor is simply one that doesnt use an external power source. Like the Tendak that people recommend here. See here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B7CEOVK/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_xjCsFbA9CRXD4
Passive convertors are powered by the HDMI cable or more specifically the 5V line in the HDMI cable. They work fine if your cable run is short and if you don't have any other passive devices in the signal path.
Since your convertor is powered externally there shouldn't be any issues unless there is something wrong with the convertor itself...or you have a passive device in the signal path robbing it of power. If that's the case I'd look into getting another convertor because this one isn't being provided with enough power to convert the signal without dropping it.
This is the one you want:
you can hook it up to your PC or laptop and use software (like retroarch) to line double games. if you only have an HDMI output, an HDMI-VGA adapter is cheap; something like this https://www.amazon.com/Tendak-Converter-Adapter-Portable-Connector/dp/B01B7CEOVK/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=tendak+hdmi+vga&qid=1666704272&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIwLjcxIiwicXNhIjoiMC40MSIsInFzcCI6IjAuODEifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=tendak%2Caps%2C75&sr=8-3
or you can buy a cheap gbs unit and mod it if you want a cheap solution that lets you hook up consoles. it will take some work to get it setup though. just google "gbs control"
both of these solutions will require some sweat and toil from you to get working properly though, especially if you have never used retroarch (or standalone emulators) before
The following HDMI to VGA adapter is often recommended and is considered really good. And it's not that pricey : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B7CEOVK/ref=oh\_aui\_search\_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Like /u/Telaneo said, your source will need to output 480p to work on a VGA monitor. Most PS2 games are 480i, so a Retrotink 2x (or 5x if you really want to splurge) may prove useful, along with an HDMI to VGA adapter. depending on the other consoles you want to use. This would probably be a better option if you're using consoles older than the PS2. Otherwise, there's a good chance the one you linked will work fine for 480p consoles, as long as the VGA out is RGBHV.
hdmi to dvi or vga active adapter with 3.5mm stereo out, then connect to powered speakers https://www.amazon.com/Tendak-Converter-Adapter-Portable-Connector/dp/B01B7CEOVK/
I think this is one of them: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B7CEOVK
Yes, this is true.
I've tested many different HDMI>VGA adapters, and as far as input delay goes, this one competes with the best and also doesn't break the bank: https://www.amazon.com/Tendak-Converter-Adapter-Portable-Connector/dp/B01B7CEOVK/
I imagine the input delay with a 240/360hz panel would probably be less than running an HDMI>VGA adapter, in fact there are probably 144hz monitors that would beat it at this point. But I've been able to run 1600x1200 @ 90hz and 1920x1440 @ 80hz with that adapter, and the input delay still feels more responsive than native HDMI on my 120hz monitor, and I can't say the same for many of the adapters (some MUCH more expensive) that I've tried.
Unfortunately it will not run 2048x1536, and I haven't found an HDMI>VGA or DP>VGA adapter which can. Kind of a bummer.
So while it can't be as good as a direct VGA>VGA just due to the nature of digital to analog conversion, that particular adapter does a really damned good job.
This Tendak HDMI to VGA adapter. You might also need some of these VGA male to female couplers, because a surprisingly large amount of VGA monitors can only recieve input via a non-removable attached VGA cable with a male VGA connector on the end.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B7CEOVK/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_glt_i_DKBSX55EWMNWQGBYAGRY this is same adapter you posted right
They do, but this isn't the highest specced CRT ever. 1080 might even be a bit blurry, 720p might look sharper.
This is one of the most well-known one, the Tendak: https://www.amazon.com/Tendak-Converter-Adapter-Portable-Connector/dp/B01B7CEOVK/ref=mp_s_a_1_3
As for the cable: https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-HD-15-Video-Cable-Monitor/dp/B001UJMGZC/ref=mp_s_a_1_4
Well there's your issue. Return that piece of garbage and get one of these for half the price.
I have 3 of them I use for various things.
It seems like your monitor has a relatively low horizontal frequency. So I don't think you will be doing any crazy high resolutions.
Using CRU, test several resolutions/refresh rates and see if any that should work, don't. I doubt that the adapter will have trouble, but maybe it will.
More importantly, see if the quality of the image is up to your standards. It can be hard to tell what issues are the monitor and which are the adapter, but these three are the biggest to look for.
In short, see if your cheap adapter work with the resolutions you want and looks good enough for you. If it fails one of these things, it's probably #3.
A good cheap alternative:
Good black levels. Should handle 1600x1200 just fine.
If you happen to get a ultra high resolution CRT monitor... like ...
Get the DeLock 62967. It's not expensive by itself, but you have to ship it from Germany and that adds a bit. I don't think you need this for this solution. :)
Universally, this is the one that keeps popping up.
Here is the converter I am currently using:
Would using a converter like this one help with the problem?
Yes. These should be great and they offer audio out as well. Tendak Active 1080P Female HDMI to VGA Male Converter Adapter Dongle with 3.5mm Stereo Audio Portable HDMI Connector for Laptop PC PS3 Xbox STB Blu-ray DVD TV Stick https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B7CEOVK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ov2kFb5DR5RRH
Portta HDMI to VGA Video Converter Adapter with 3.5mm Stereo Audio Converter 1080p for PS3 XBOX360 Blu-ray DVD Set-top Boxes PC Laptop to HDTV Projector https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003O55U8K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Ry2kFbFTJ0SNN
Just a word of thought all of the analogue systems are for consoles that are 240p which isn’t the same as 480i. Downscaling to that is a much bigger and involved prices and the VSC won’t do anything other than 480i.
This converter can work https://arcadeforge.net/UMSA/UMSA-Ultimate-SCART-Adapter::57.html?language=en when paired with this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B7CEOVK/?ref=exp_retrorgb_dp_vv_mw# . If you need to downscale then I would use a GBS8200 with gbs control.
Get the OSSC. It's really the only option to do what you want in a convenient and high-quality way unless you want to spend ages scouring eBay for vintage scandoublers that probably won't be any cheaper anyway.
For a VGA adapter, I've personally used the popular Tendak one and this Portta unit and while they both work fine, I'd recommend the latter over the former if the price difference doesn't bother you. My Tendak had a flickering green line at the bottom of the screen for some inputs, which isn't a huge problem since it's normally in the overscan area, but if you want to try the widescreen modes in Wii/GameCube games it might become an issue. It also doesn't like the OSSC's audio output, which again isn't a big deal for most setups. The Portta doesn't exhibit either of those problems.
Ow yeah my bad, I use this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B7CEOVK/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
It works fine with hdmi from my pc, so I doubt it's the transcoder.
Weird refresh rates are fine, just need an adapter that can go high enough pixel clock if you're going really high. Recommended reasonably cheap adapter is the screw in Tendak https://www.amazon.com/Tendak-Converter-Adapter-Portable-Connector/dp/B01B7CEOVK/ HDMI to VGA good for ~165MHz, if you need more, there's the Sunix DP to VGA (and DP and HDMI, it's a hub too) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JARYTVK/
Chiming in to agreem this is a perfectly good method. For the record, you won't get natural scanlines if that matters to you. Aside from that though it looks great.
This Tendak adapter is the most commonly recommended and I have it as well. Many HDMI -> VGA adapters crush blacks, but Tendak's doesn't and is cheap. If you want to look at other adapters that have been tested for this they're here!
Rather than selling your old one, I'd suggest getting an HDMI-to-VGA converter and plugging that into the OSSC.
Right, I'd be very interested to see that compared to the OSSC. Hopefully FirebrandX will test that too. Personally I'd probably get this Tendak one that people on the shmups forum really like:
I am using this hdmi to vga adapter.
I use this Tendak one. I saw it recommended on here and Shmups.
OK this setup might be ridiculous, but this is all I can think of to do it cheaply with what you already have:
Get one of these:
Plug in your HDMI output from your S-Video to HDMI scaler into the Tendak. Then get something like this:
In the reviews for this someone says:
"After setting a fixed resolution on my Raspberry Pi and piping to the board through an HDMI to VGA converter, I was blown away by the realism."
So I am quite sure this will work.
And put that between between your tendak vga output and your monitors vga input.
What you are looking for is a Scanline Generator, and they may have them for HDMI sources but I have never heard of one that isn't VGA.
I own 3 of these and they work perfectly. This particular one does not introduce lag, it has no framebuffer to do so and has no scaling capability. I use mine to go from the OSSC into a CRT monitor.
Here are some reviews of different ones, but I very much recommend the Tendak for the price!
I use an NEC FE2141SB with https://www.amazon.com/Tendak-Converter-Adapter-portable-Connector/dp/B01B7CEOVK/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1509029280&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=tendak+hdmi+to+vga and it works great.
Not a USB port, but an HDMI one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B7CEOVK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_ghTszbNFHV2B3
I ordered some Tendak converters on amazon a couple weeks ago, they've been working out nicely for me setting up my wii U to a monitor via VGA. I actually ordered two different models, one can stick to the console and connect via vga cable and the other can stock to the monitor and connect via hdmi cable. Both seem to work fine but cannot do 1080p, only 720p. There's some horizontal fuzziness but it is not noticeable from a distance or when actively playing something.
Tendak Active 1080P Female HDMI to VGA Male Converter Adapter Dongle with 3.5mm Stereo Audio portable HDMI Connector for Laptop PC PS3 Xbox STB Blu-ra https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B7CEOVK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_yJgMJoLLNjfuP
Tendak Gold-Plated Active HD 1080P HDMI to VGA Converter Adapter Dongle with 3.5mm Audio for Laptop PC Projector HDTV PS3 Xbox STB Blu-ray DVD https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VTJVJ3S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_XUVOnGwkhLvOD
I would say if the picture quality is more important, then you would be ahead to get an hdmi switch. I ordered these for other reasons - I wanted to be able to use some extra monitors for Halo 3/reach LAN parties, not as primary/solo gaming displays.
I'm going to start off and say I don't like the mclassic. It changes the image too much from the original, adds visual artifacts, and is way too expensive for the upgrade.
I think the carby component cables (or eon mk2 with wii component cables) through the OSSC, doubled to 960p is the best a gamecube can look right now. That being said, you may not need to get a new cube to achieve this. You could probably use a tendak hdmi to vga converter to input the gamecube into the OSSC. This would likely achieve nearly identical results with minor to no latency added. That could save you some time and money.