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Don’t waste your money! You can literally buy a TENS unit for $30 on Amazon instead of wasting over $100 on the “cute” version livia is marketing up the wazoo commercially preying on women in pain!
This is the tens I have and it’s great: [link]
This one here.
It'll hurt if you crank it way up, but if you ease into it you'll be fine. I made the mistake of doing that while it was on my triceps and the locked up straight outwards. Cue visuals of my dumb ass writhing around on my kitchen floor to turn it off.
The sensation is pretty odd at first but you get used to it quick.
That's bullshit that they won't cover Lyrica.
Generally, though, they won't cover it as a "first line" medication, but they will if the first line doesn't work, ie the gabapentin. Lyrica also has a good anti-anxiety component, so theoretically you could switch completely and have both the fibromyalgia and anxiety treated under one Lyrica prescription. Maybe ask your fibro doctor to submit a request for the Lyrica since the gabapentin isn't touching your pain levels.
I'm glad cannabis is working for you and your office will start offering cards. That's great.
Do you have roaming pain or global pain? If roaming spot pain, you could try getting a TENS unit to get you through. They're affordable on Amazon now: [link]
Ugh the worst. This won’t help today but to prepare for next time, get a TENS (Transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation) machine! I had a copper IUD for 5yrs and the pain for me was immense, this bad boy was a life saver. It interrupts pain signals with electrical pulses and was best $30 I’ve ever spent. As for today, honestly I found orgasms to help. Here’s the TENS amazon link [link]
I mean, you won't lose too much money if you just buy one off of Amazon. [link]
Livia is overpriced, but its entire purpose is being discreet enough to wear to work or out shopping, for example.
He linked me to this one!! I think its the same one he has in his office
Sorry for the late reply...
TENS 7000 (they all come with pads)
Channels refers to the number of outputs. Basically, this is the same as the number of power knobs, which is the same as the number of pairs of wires. Two wires connect a single channel to your body, current will flow into one electrode and out the other. Then the direction of current switches and this forms an EStim pulse. The TENS 3000 has 2 channels. Make sense?
Tens 7000 ($30) is the most popular on Amazon has worked flawlessly for 6 years for me, my physical therapist also uses them like a lending library. It has 2 channels and is easy to adjust settings.
I happened to research that and that's exactly what I just found. Gonna buy it, ASAP. Thank you so much. I gonna ask about all of those.
What kind of PT? Like pelvic thearpy? I tried yoga and that did not help, but maybe this would do more. I cannot imagine this would be a problem. I've been doing weight lifting, bike riding, swimming for years. But maybe my bladder muscles, pelvic floor is somehow messed up. Thanks again. You are AMAZING. Hope you continue to get the help you need as well.
[link] Of course here is a link to the exact one I use. The blatter installation helped the first few times however it did start to stop the relief. I would suggest you ask you new urologist about a blatter stretch, and for them to look directly inside your blatter and make sure there is also no ulcers. Since they sometimes develop when you have IC. I also am starting physical therapy. maybe ask you urologist about that as well.
A tens unit will be super helpful in making those quads fire
TENS 7000 2nd Edition Digital TENS Unit With Accessories [link]
I suggest placing them around the top of your knee (avoiding scars) and a little higher on the quads.
Hope links are ok. This thing, takes a 9v battery, pads are cheap, just put around affected area and turn up to comfort level. It even comes with a pamphlet to show placement for specific areas.
Unfortunately, nobody stocks anything useful. I spent 45 minutes searching major retailers for you and only Walgreens stocks one that is not very good. Even vendors like CVS who sell the TENS 7000 online charge more than twice as much ($83) as other online retailers like Amazon here for US $29 with free delivery.
I'm sorry, but you need to order online. Please consider ordering extra pads.
You can get them on Amazon pretty cheap. I've got a TENS 3000 and it's pretty good. I've got another more complicated one and was not impressed with it.
This is the updated version for about $30. Definitely grab some extra electrodes for it!
I had completely forgotten I had it until two weeks ago and it's helped me quite a bit.
I wasn't aware something like this existed! I was just wondering earlier if there was a way to distract pain receptors.
Very close to purchasing this one on Amazon right now, though reading the reviews it is a bit scary to see some people being zapped. Is there any particular one you recommend?
The cramps subsided after I had some eggflower soup. I think my mistake was waiting too long to take the Advil after I'd eaten initially. I'll keep in mind to stretch that way tomorrow since it's very likely the suffering isn't over yet.
13 weeks post-op and my PT has been using this on me lately while icing to help bring down some swelling and alleviate pain. I ended up picking one up since my clinic closed last week and it's actually pretty powerful. I was impressed. I got this TENS 7000 unit off amazon and so far it's helped with alleviating my pain after home workouts.
They sell them at drugstores but I got mine off Amazon. Just search “TENS unit”. I may have spent $30 on mine but they have ones made specifically for cramps (those will run you $100-200). I’ve done the research and they’re no better, just a bit more discreet. I went with the most basic unit because I liked the functionality but you can get any type you think works best for you. It essentially does the same thing as those “ab belts”.
I have confirmed systemic nerve damage. I’ve been told that it falls under the dysautonomia umbrella rather than the direct POTS umbrella. I have both, along with EDS and others.
There are meds that supposedly help with the pain but I’ve never found those useful. My go tos are
Nerve blocks- for spinal disc degeneration/nerve pay.
TENS unit- TENS 7000 2nd Edition Digital... [link]
Cutting caffeine and stimulants when things are bad
Nerve blocks (seriously I get these every six months to keep the pain under a 10/10).
You can find a pain center/doctor and get a nerve punch biopsy to confirm if need be.
In all honesty nerve pain is just as big of an issue as POTS for me, and they both can fall under dysautonomia.
yea didnt hear of it till someone have me try it. It shocks you but not 100 % in a bad way inless it discount from the pad and you touch the metal and wont feel the best. Type stuff up trying to explain it and yea i suck so just do some google searching on it. Sometime people will get it from physical therapy. Here is what it looks like [link] They sell them in stores now like icyhot smart relief dont use those in less you have to the pad are expensive to replace unlike tens pad you can get on amazon
It's similar to a TENS unit (Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulation).
They're extensively used for muscle and back pain. This guy has some sort of on-top-of-the-clothes version for testing. I believe the final version might be implanted.
A normal TENS unit uses sticky pads you put directly on your skin and then send electrical jolts or a continuous flow of electricity through the pad. You control the strength of the experience with the handheld unit... usually twisting a dial, but you could use an LCD touch screen if you prefer that type of model. (The one I linked has physical dials and a digital display.)
They are extremely helpful if you experience many forms of pain. It also has applications in strength training in athletes and injury recovery. Typically the more pain you're in, the more you increase the power because you're not feeling the lowest levels of stimulation.
This. I often don't like TENS, but my PT had one of these laying around and I liked it enough to drop $30 to get my own; saw the same one in my pain management doc's office recently. It isn't a magical fix by any means, but I'll use it to distract from any particularly intense pain while I watch a movie, get through that awful last hour of my workday, or wait for my meds to kick in or whatever. Lots of the ones you get off Amazon come with a handy dandy placement chart for electrodes.
Curcumin + piperine might help. Or you could just do curcumin + black pepper. You would need the piperine to enhance the effect of the curcumin.
Asprin daily low dose.
Trimethylglycine might help? Don't take too much or you might become overmethylated even though it would reduce the pain more it might make you confused and mess up your working memory.
T.E.N.S. might help but I don't know if it is meant to be used that way. A cheap $20-30 T.E.N.S. unit would probably do the trick. The larger 2" x 3.5" pads work better than the smaller pads fyi.
The tens 7000 is pretty good and you might get it for under $20 usd. It's a simple unit and the electrodes that come with it aren't that great. Consult your doctor or at least research into it before buying.
It's possible it's from binding, but it's also possible you pinched a nerve or something some other way. If it is your binder, a lot of people are in between sizes for binders--something I generally recommend is putting binders through the washer and dryer to loosen them up if you experience pain with them.
Anyway, if the pain doesn't fade this week I'd maybe look into it. Otherwise, these things are a life saver for me [link] I get sore muscles in my upper back from binding pretty frequently (partially because I also spend so much time stooped over a computer), and I strap myself into one of these. Takes care of it after a couple of 10 minute rounds.
How did the surgery help with the AS? My doctors have given me a lot of options medically even though we know my worst parts are L1-L5. Still don't know what thorasic and cervical are like yet, I get xrays this week. I'd love to hear your tricks. One thing that works great for me is my TENS device. I got one off Amazon that was recommended by my PT. TENS it's a 9 volt so it's a bit stronger. Thanks for your comment.
I've had that problem with a few portable TENS units. My boyfriend's little USB powered one felt like licking batteries does, but on my skin. I though all portable ones were terrible until one of my PTs used this on me in the office and I went home and bought one immediately. I haven't even messed with the different modes because the default setting such a nice gentle buzzy feeling.
NP. If you want to try a cheap TENS unit, I use the Tens 7000. It's 9v so it's powerful. Best little cheap one I've used of the 3 or 4 I've bought online.
It's mentioned elsewhere in the comments this is what the kids were playing with. Can you imagine? They were in SUCH peril!
The good news is this is a TENS machine that they made cute and pink. You can get them over the counter a lot of places or on Amazon for under $50.
Tens Unit - Tens Machine for Pain Management, Back Pain and Rehabilitation. [link]
I think you misunderstood the point of this subreddit. This is not a meeting place for conspiracy nuts, we are the ones that make fun of them.
>They have, but there has never been a time in history when so much of the world economy as revolved around energy.
No, the economy has revolved around other things, which got replaced by the things that outdated them. There is no difference here.
>>And the people in positions of power have never once managed to suppress it.
>Oh really, I beg to differ.
They kinda did a shitty job suppressing it, considering you can buy it for 30 bucks on amazon!
The same is true for the lightbulb and AC current....
Might wanna go for some examples that do not actually support what I just said.
>Oh wow you really have bought into the lie. Before Trump ran he had never been accused of bigotry, NOT once.
Aaaaand of course you are a Trumpster.
There are two parts to this claim I have to address. First of all, even if no one bothered to address his racism until he ran for president, or hell, even if he hadn't done anything bigoted until that point, that still would not change a thing. But - and that's the second thing I have to address - your statement that no one accused him of bigotry before he ran for president is blatantly false. (A Trumpster saying something demonstrably false...go figure. Alternative facts, right?)
There are many instances when Trump has been accused of bigotry before he ran for president.
Like a 1991 Book by John O'Donnell, former president of Trump plaza, who worked with Trump for many years. In this book, he accuses Trump of calling black people lazy in spectacularly bigoted terms. Or the full page add he took out against the (now found innocent) Central Park 5, the racism of which was even discussed in court, as the defense lawyers explained that it stirred up hate and influenced public opinion. That was in 1989. He was even fined 200k because his casino would remove black dealers for racist patrons, in 1992.
I could go on, but like I said, even if he just started being racist and being called out on it in 2016, this would still not change a damn thing. I just wanted to point out how demonstrably wrong and stupid that claim was, that he wasn't accused of bigotry before 2016.
I am not going to dignify the rest of those incoherent and ignorant Trump ramblings with an answer, because they have even less to do with conspiritard ideas then what I already corrected so far.
>No, but there is tons of circumstantial evidence. And people have been sentenced to death with only circumstantial evidence many times.
By that metric, you should also believe in bigfoot, the loch ness monster, fairies, demons and atlantis, among other things.
Truth is not established by quantity. A ton of shitty arguments put together does not make one decent argument. You can have a million hillbillies with crop circles and tinfoil hatters with blurry photos or misunderstood archaeology. If anything, this makes your point weaker.
But since this actually has something to do with the sub we are posting in: Give me an example of what you consider convincing circumstantial evidence to seriously consider that intelligent alien life has been on earth.
TENS 7000. Amazon. $26.
I love it.
I'd also purchase these pads. Amazon. Ebay.
And I like using electrode gel for a better attachment. Amazon.
I regularly use a TENS for other issues I have.
Talked to my OB and she was onboard for me using it during pregnancy and labor if I desired.
I got one through my insurance - it was astronomical and didn't feel as good as the "medical grade" TENS units they use at a PT facility.
I returned that one (it was like 400$ - absurd), and tried a few different ones.
I bought this one from Amazon - it is amazing and does an excellent job for much cheaper(30$)! Weee!
I also bought these pads as replacement.
But seriously - it is far, far better than the one I received through prescription and it is the third one I tried off of Amazon (after learning about it from others with my genetic disorder). Highly recommended!
Not sure if you have ever used one before - but definitely make sure you understand how to put the pads on correctly before you use it!
If the pain reduces after doing pressups, then that suggest you are using good form.
My wrist tips are here. Some workouts for arms and wrists can be found here. Recommended hand and wrist stretches can be found here.
In your case I would seek therapy, drink a lot of water. I would also get physical therapy from a professional and treat your wrists like a baby. I have an extra special recommendation. If you have a spare $40 lying around, treat yourself and buy this therapy / massage machine. It's god sent, you will thank me later. Works great for wrists discomfort, but also for pin in general for those days you fuck up your workouts.
Thanks I will!
This is the box I use
I get muscle tension really bad in my neck and shoulders due to anxiety. What helps me (besides a chiropractor) is using a Tens machine on the muscles. I have one similar to this: https://www.amazon.com/TENS-7000-Digital-Unit-Accessories/dp/B00NCRE4GO
People often mean different things by "prostate milking"
For reference, expulsion without semen emission often is called a "dry orgasm".
Number 1 is easy, as it may happen if you're aroused; electrostimulation can increase it (but be aware that constricting rings or loops around penis can block precum).
I agree with u/carlvoncosel based on your budget.
DIY STEREOSTIM SUGGESTIONS:
COMMERCIAL BOX SUGGESTIONS:
ET-232: https://erostek.com/products/et232-power-unit $299.00 (over budget)
MALE ELECTRODE SUGGESTIONS:
FEMALE ELECTRODE SUGGESTIONS:
Amazon has them for $28. Just get some extra pads and some 9v batteries.
TENS 7000 2nd Edition Digital TENS Unit With Accessories
For those of you who have back pain, have you tried a TENS unit? I've been wanting to try one because they look cool but not in any pain
Sure! Here’s the unit that I bought. I got it on the recommendation of a friend with chronic pain issues, and he also suggested I get extra lead wires here, extra pads here, and some 9V rechargeables since the thing eats battery life here. Even with all those accessories, the whole order was half of the cost of a PT appointment, and it seems to really truly be of benefit to my muscles. Just be careful to not pull off a pad while the unit is on or have one fall off—it’ll shock you but good. 🤣
Hope that’s helpful to ya!
Buzzfeed actually had a remarkably good article on using TENS units The general thought was it works pretty well for minor cramps but doesn't do a ton for severe menstrual cramps, though it does take the edge off
That being said TENS units actually aren't that expensive, here's one on amazon for $30 and it might be worth trying it just because if it doesn't work it's only $30
might not be the exact 1, got 1 for my mom and it looks REALLY similar.
I haven’t done it in a doctor’s office, but I mentioned I was doing this at-home treatment to my urologist, and he thought it was a great idea. Here’s what I use to guide me: TENS placement article I use a very basic TENS unit I bought on Amazon: TENS unit Hope that helps!
I used a TENS unit during therapy after hand/arm surgery. I was 9. The units were more expensive them, in 2002. I remembered what TENS stood for and since more pain related to my hemiparesis started up at 15, I had tried to get a doctor to prescribe me one. No success. But a year and a half ago, I came across this one on Amazon: [link]
Simple, effective, and I've regularly used it since. Operates on 1 9volt battery. You can buy a 40pk of electrodes as well: [link]
All relatively inexpensive.
Of course! I bought this one from Amazon.
I have this one and it fits in my larger pockets: [link]
TENS 7000 2nd Edition Digital TENS Unit with accessories [link]
This is the specific one I have. I use it for my herniated disc, period cramps, and any other muscle pain I get.
Did you ever try reading any of this? It has quite a few suggestions (though follow the tip under female placements and shave where you are going to place pads if there is hair present. It is best to wait 24 hours after shaving so your skin isn't too sensitive). I am not sure I have heard of anyone sharing your bad experience under a bit of guidance.
Also, sticky pads are not generally used with gel until they have been worn down properly. The oils and dust in your skin could have ruined the conductive properties and created a kind of insulation between the pad and yourself that conductive gel could not quite solve. Here's a guide to taking care of the pads properly.
Of the uncomfortable sensations that you felt, how could you best describe them? If it was anything sharp, stingy, or burning it very likely could have been a combination of bad settings and bad contact.
Before shelling out $200 on something you haven't gotten to try properly, see if any of these possibilities pertain to your bad experience. As you said, your experience was nothing like what you heard it to be (could have even been a bad unit). This looks like a reliable unit to try again with.
I've got the Roscoe Medical TENS 7000, and I love it.
However, if/when it dies (it'll last me years), I have the Famidoc TENS and EMS Combo Unit on my Amazon Wish List.
I didn’t want to mention it originally, but now that you’ve read a bit... some of those machines look to not conform to either standard of TENS or EMS and call themselves “massagers” with little/no information on what that means. (This is how some companies skirt medical device laws when they are selling a device that won’t meet the medical standards). Obviously without getting my hands on your exact unit I can’t say, but my gut feeling is that if it’s causing pain at such low levels, you need to replace it.
Interesting thought though: is the sensation different if you put the pads on a large muscle instead (upper back, near shoulders, lower back along spine, or lower half of your hamstring)? It could just be something in the way that unit was designed.
If you’re looking for nerve pain relief, this is the exact unit I use, and I turn it up to ~3 for a light buzz in my back. You can also adjust the pulse with and shape from the box itself. It’s oldschool, but mine has worked for a bit over ten years now without trouble.
It looks like there is an updated version on Amazon, but even if I were doing it all over again I’d stay with the analog one. Also, interesting to note the disclaimer on that page “This is not an EMS Machine”
Something like this TENS 7000 2nd Edition Digital TENS Unit with accessories?
Check out /r/estim, and more specifically the wiki page. At a minimum, read the beginners section including recommended TENS settings.
To test the waters, this should suffice!
I love my Tens unit. [link]
They aren't that pricey anymore [link]
Please do! I have the TENS 7000 from Amazon. $30. Comes with a carry case and 8 pads. They're square, 2" by 2". I also bought rectangle pads 2" by 4" and a butterfly wing pad. Honestly I just play around with them via trial and error. The basic premise is to put one (or more) pads on either side of the area that hurts. Your current will run from one pad to the other. When you place them on either side of what hurts, the current will run across that muscle area. Now you'll have nerves in there also, so depending on where the pad is and how strong your device is set, you can stimulate muscle contractions. I like to freak my sister out by putting a pad on the top of my hand and on the top of my wrist, which stimulates the median and or ulnar nerves and causes my fingers to twitch around like a fish out of water. She hates it, haha. But basically, once you turn it on, you'll get a feel for what is being stimulated. I usually end up adjusting the location of the pads a couple of times. I generally start on a continuous mode and keep it at the surface for a while and once I've adjusted to it, then if the area is particularly bothering me, I'll go to a burst mode which will do more of the contraction style.
I started out with the TENS 7000 which is entirely manual, which is nice, if somewhat daunting. A couple weeks ago I picked up another device which has 15 preset modes. I don't like that I don't have entire control over it, however it's advantage is that the preset modes combine different types of stimulus which is cool.
Here is the TENS 7000 and the HealthmateForever Preset Modes
The wait lists are always beasts! The appointment will sneak up before you know it though.
In the meantime, if you don't have one, get yourself a tens unit, salonpas patches and/or tiger balm , the cream type, for places the salonpas are annoying to wear.
Read up on each before use. The tens unit, especially, was invaluable for me. If money is an issue, pm me and I'll see what I can do.
We have been using this: [link] $30 and produces a good amount of pain. Four pads, runs on a nine volt. Has worked great for us.
If you need more pain you could use a TENS on high setting.
>I've tried the rubber band on the wrist thing, but it does absolutely fuck all.
What about trying something just as painful as cutting, but that does not damage tissue like cutting does? I have a TENS machine [about the size of an iPhone] that I use to relieve physical pain. I have noticed that if I accidentally turn it up too high, it causes terrible pain. [link]
Tens 7000 is one of the good choices if you want to have more control and flexibility, and it is pretty cheap also.
PRO12AB from healthmateforever is another good one. Isolated channels, 12 ready to use treatment modes but more pricey.
Here is a tool I found where you could choose and compare different tens units side by side. It might be helpful in selecting the tens unit you want.
>it's a muscle thing
1) TENS unit (Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulation). Massage the muscle with electric stimulation... waves or taps, as strong or light as you please. I wouldn't pay more than $30 or $40 for the unit itself, something like this one. It's a pretty darn simple device, and it works wonders.
You can buy pads in a variety of shapes and sizes. The pads need to be replaced after several uses as they lose their sticking ability, but you can keep a set applied to your back all day long. You don't use the TENS unit for that long a period... you just detach the pads from the unit itself and let them sit under your clothing and reattach the cords several times a day when you do use the unit.
2) Salonpas medicine pads or the same medicine in creme form. The pads produce less of an odor, but still have an odor and are more expensive. Buy at any pharmacy. (Hell, you might even find a TENS unit at a pharmacy.)
3) Electric heating pad, a large one designed for your back that wraps around you with Velcro. Find it at any pharmacy. It's much easier to manage than a microwaved pad, and is never too hot. The only catch, of course, is you're tethered to a cord. But then again, you can't easily manage most microwave pads while you're walking around either.
4) Naproxen sodium (aka Aleve). As long as you don't have cardiovascular disease or anything else warned on the bottle. (It's not especially bad or anything. This advice goes for all medicine.)
I don't understand how you could have chronic muscle pain and your doctor didn't recommend a TENS unit.
If you know someone who has a total gym, then lie on the board while 'dangling' holding the hand grips. This is sort of like dangling from a tree branch, but less strenuous because much of your weight is supported by the slanted board you're lying on.
I had back pain that grew each day and I finally made a doctor's appointment when I was reduced to crawling around the house after 5 days. It was my wife's stray suggestion of trying the dangling that worked. Within 5 minutes most of the pain was gone, and I canceled the appointment. I continued to dangle for a couple minutes several times a day for a week and was better. It may have been sciatica / a pinched nerve that I literally unpinched by stretching my body.
Dang, 2 hours in the car every day sounds rough. Can you get an adjustable desk at work? I have one and sit and stand throughout the day. I also have a TENS/e-stim unit that does wonders on my hips and low back. I use it on my hamstrings, too.
edit - added links
Going off of the limited info you shared and the fact that I'm not a medical professional, I just need to mention that muscle relaxers are a HUGE no-no in EDS patients, which most people with POTS have. Do you know if you have a connective tissue disorder? I too have severe muscle pain, and tried muscle relaxers temporarily in the past which helped when I took them on a sporadic basis, but my PT was horrified when I told her I had been using them (she's an expert in EDS). IF there's anyway you can go without this, you'd be doing your body a favor, as uncomfortable as it may be. Even if you don't have EDS, that's a powerful drug and can cause lots of issues. Why has it been prescribed and at that dose?
Also have you tried a TENS unit in your problem areas? It relaxes the muscles via stimulation which lessens or stops muscle spasms. This is a cheap one but it sounds good for the price: [link]
Cramps that severe can't be helped with otc meds, or with heating pads, or any other traditional treatments. She has more going on than the typical menstrual cycle and I'm shocked Drs haven't determined that yet. To get her through the day she could try the Livia machine [link]
If that isn't available in Brazil she could try the bulkier version [link]