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Not a problem. I use Thayers alcohol-free rose petal witch hazel toner with aloe vera formula. My girlfriend recommended it after I saw her put it on after getting her eyebrows done. It helps with redness. They also have an unscented version but I've grown to like the rose petal smell
I got mine from iHerb but it's also on Amazon
Do you use a toner? An extremely popular vegan, cruelty-free, soy-free and alcohol-free toner is Thayer’s Witch-Hazel Rose Toner.
I use this stuff everyday... it’s amazing and gentle. It has a PH of 5.5-6. You can use this after cleansing and before creams/serums. Target sells this toner with the spray nozzle which is also nice as a mid-day refresher or make-up primer. You can find the travel-sized toners on Amazon as well.
I also second trying Pacifica. My faves: seafoam cleanser, kale micellar water, coconut body butter, passionfruit/guava perfume! But seriously, everything is amazing!
You can definitely try that. This is a good starting toner if you want to try the method I'm using now. You can get cotton pads in any drug stores, but I personally prefer the Japan muji cotton pads (available on amazon) - they feel a lot nicer/softer than the typical western pads (which always feel too scratchy).
Potentially! It’s pretty similar to a facial toner. I get this stuff from Amazon: Thayers Alcohol-free Rose Petal Witch Hazel with Aloe Vera, 12 oz [link]. Also works great on the face.
Exfoliating and moisturizing your face and neck on a daily basis will soften and smoothen (is that a word lol?) Your skin rather quickly although I would only recommend doing it once every day. But once you feel comfortable and confident enough to continue than you could push it to twice a day uwu. The exfoliator that I use is Thayers toner with rose petals, witch hazel, and aloe vera. Here is the link to their Amazon pricing ^^ [Thayers Alcohol-free Rose Petal Witch Hazel with Aloe Vera, 12 oz [link]] I hope that you are able to continue your amazing accomplishments and journey of femininity despite how close minded your parents are <3
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Try Thayer’s Witch Hazel! My skin has similar qualities to yours and this stuff has been a godsend. It smells great, and a little goes a long way! All you have to do is dab a little on a cotton ball or wash cloth. It’s definitely worth trying out!
Hey bro, coming from someone with a similar complexion as yours.
How many months are you in? Can you avoid the sun as much as possible? Apply sunscreen day/night. Moisturize often.
I've been using this aloe Vera toner it's been so clutch for redness.
Don't pick, despite any urges. Drink water.
Hope this helps.
I use this brand. It works great for me and sensitive skin, there are several scents that all smell great, and its vegan. They usually have it at Target too for about the same price.
Also works good on my legs and underarms to keep then smooth, cool the burn, and help prevent bumps.
I know, I felt so betrayed when I realized it was the cause of my recent skin troubles. I had big dreams for that sunblock ; n ;
At night I use Nature Republic Super Aqua Max Combination Watery Cream as a moisturizer, and although it does the trick, it's a bit heavy for me so it doesn't completely sink in. When I wake up, I wash my hands thoroughly and splash my face with water a few times. The first couple of splashes I really feel the residue of the moisturizer on my face, but it rinses off pretty well with another go or two. My face still feels moisturized after this step, which it never did after morning cleansing with any product. I'm new to the world of vitamin C, so when I remember to do so, I squeeze a pump or two on my face while it's still wet from washing and let it dry. Then I go over my face with witch hazel on a cotton round. It may not be an AB product, but anything I may have missed with my hands gets picked up on the pad, plus the witch hazel helps calm any inflammation around my breakouts, so I'd say it's helped me! Just make sure you choose an alcohol-free brand like Thayers.
Awww man! I've been using one (this one to be exact) for several months now, and I haven't noticed that much of a difference in pores and only a slight difference in redness. :/
I don't think medical advice from reddit is always the best idea, it sounds like retinization which is a common thing when people start using retinoids on skin that isn't used to harsher chemicals. Stop using retinoids on your junk and it should go away. In the meantime keep washing everything away in the shower(no soap) and moisturizing morning and evening.
Next time you shave badly I would recommend a witch hazel toner which will help with irritation.
Now my only worry is aftershave.
Will this [link]
be enough or should I instead/also use a aftershave balsam.
Thanks for the input! I really like the feeling of toners too! Which toner would you recommend? A lot of people use this one, but I've never used it before: Thayers Alcohol-free Rose Petal. Also, any recommendations for SPF?
I've been known to use witch hazel after cleansing to get the last bits of makeup off my face, especially my eyelashes. This one is my favorite, but it does come in other scents if you don't like rose.
Sure thing! I wear very little makeup myself and like to think good skincare is a way to avoid "needing" makeup since the whole idea of makeup is just to enhance what you've already got going on.
Just for your consideration, I am 27 and white with normal to oily, fair/freckled skin. I am also about to sound like I am sponsored by CeraVe. Sadly I am not, but I fully enoucourage everyone to try them as they are a very gentle, high quality, and affordable line of skincare products.
Cleanse with CeraVe Hydrating Cleanser.
Tone with Thayer's Rose Petal Witch Hazel with Aloe Vera. This toner is soothing, hydrating and makes your pores appear smaller. I apply with a cottonball and swipe it all over my face. Doing this also helps remove any makeup/sleep-crust/day-grime from your face that didn't come off when cleansing. Lots of toners advertise that they are pH balancing but don't actually have a pH low enough to accomplish this. I.e., do not spend $18 on a toner.
One pump of the Derma E Vitamin C Concentrated Serum I recommended to OP. Vitamin C has been absolutely amazing for my face and has really evened out my skin tone. Vitamin C is also an antioxidant that can stabilize free radicals, which helps prevent skin damage (skin damage = wrinkles and sagging). This product also contains hyaluronic acid, which is very hydrating. Applying acids to your face sounds scary, but fear not. The ideal skin pH is relatively acidic at around 5.5.
CervaVe AM Moisturizer with SPF. Always wear SPF during the day, even if you're going to be inside all day or it's cloudy out or whatever. Makes sure you're applying this to your neck as well. I use four pumps.
Cleanse with CervaVe Hydrating Cleanser above.
Just after cleansing and while my face is still moist, I exfoliate with crushed aspirin. I use Bayer Back & Body because it contains both aspirin and caffeine. Aspirin has salicylic acid, which prevents and treats acne, and caffeine is antinflammatory and reduces both redness and dark circles. I do not suffer from a lot of acne -- when I do it is hormonal or stress-related. Since I started using this method to exfoliate at night any pimple that I get is gone within two days and with none of the redness and irritation I experienced in the past. Anyway, I just finely crush two Bayer tablets in a small ziplock bag and add a few drops of water to make a thick paste. Apply to the face using gentle, circular scrubbing motions. I typically then get another pump of the Cerave Hydrating Cleanser and continue to gently scrub for a minute before rinsing this off.
Tone with Thayer's as mentioned above.
Vitamin C serum mentioned above. I apply more at night -- three to four pumps.
I sometimes use a retinol cream at this point, but that's overkill if you're just getting into skincare. If you do eventually start using one, apply after you cleanse, tone and add serum but before your moisturizer. Do not use retinol during the day as it can make your skin more sensitive to the sun.
Four pumps CeraVe PM Moisturizer. I adore this shit; the consistency is amazing. I could be told it was made with aborted dolphin fetuses and I'd still use it.
Sorry for the novel.
TLDR: Cleaser, toner, vitamin C serum, moisturizer. Aspirin mask at night, always SPF in the day. Try CeraVe.
Edit to say holy shit, gilded for nerding out over skincare? Thank you!!
You should really try to play around with falsies and find out which ones you like. There are HG falsies in the HG drugstore master list on the side. You could also do some research on youtube, google, and of course, this site for your eye type and see what other people use and try them out to see if you like them. You may need to need to cut the lashes to fit your face/ eyes better. I hear really good things about the Esqido latex free lash glue. Jeffree Star uses that lash glue. Acccoring to him, it's really good and doesn't have a terrible smell like other lash glues. [The lash glue is $10 on their website}([link]). I have never worn false lashes so I don't want to recommend something that you may not like.
Can I also recommend that you wear a setting spray and or a fixing spray (rather both, imo) if you have combo oily skin?. The setting spray melts all of your makeup in one and removes cakiness, if you have any. By looking at your pictures, you look really good and have no cakiness. I like to use it because sometimes I can get heavy handed with my powder haha. I SWEAR by fixing spray. Fixing spray locks your makeup onto your face and prolongs the wear time. When I go for a light/ no makeup look kind of day and use the setting spray and fixing spray, I can go much longer without having to touch up than I would if I just used a primer and moisturizer. What Is your skin type??
For setting spray, I use this witch hazel from amazon. What you are looking for in the ingredients is the glycerin to!, also alcohol free so your skin doesn't become dry. This witch hazel is a definite dupe for the mac fix+ ($10.99 for the witch hazel and $23 for the MAC fix+). I honestly don't see a difference in using the fix + or the witch hazel. I do not like the spay head for the fix+ at all. The mist is too big imo. My HG fixing spray is the skindinavia bridal spray. This spray head mist is much finer imo and much better that the fix +. I like getting the 8 oz bottle because (you get more product haha duh) you get an extra spray head. The extra spray head from skindinavia will fit on that witch hazel bottle perfectly. I can post a picture of it if you like. Also, if you order form the skindinavia website, you will always get 2 free samples, a water based primer spray and a regular finishing spray.
I hope I didn't write all of that and you have dry/ combo skin haha! If you have regular, dry, or combo skin, just get the regular finishing spray. I am going to assume you don't have any highlighters or blushers since I didn't see you use one. Just like every other thing I am writing about, You don't need them but I love to wear blush and highlighter, especially when I contour, to give some warmth back to my skin. Can I give you some recs? For blush, the NARS orgasm (peachy pink with shimmer) or NARS super orgasm (peachy pink with gold glitter) would look really good on you. If you get the super orgasm, I wouldn't use a highlighter because it has glitter in it. If you get a different blush and pick up a highlighter, apply the highlight first then the blush! Imo, i think it looks more natural. It's like the blush tones down the highlight, giving an ethereal look.
For Highlight, do you have any shimmery eyeshadows? Eyeshadows can be used as a highlighter and vice versa! If you do have any shimmery eyeshadows you think you like, put it one and go in different lighting (camera with and without flash, outside, inside, etc..) and see if you like it! If you wanted to buy a stand alone lighter, i think the beccae highlighter in rose gold would look good! Wait! I just rememberd that Becca just released the Becca x Jaclyn Hill Champagne Splits. The splits have a blush and highlighter included. I think this would be best if you wanted to get a blush and highlighter. Try them out in the store(and make sure you go outside and in different lighting to make sure you will like how they both look.
When I started writing this, I didn't mean for it to be this long lol ! You really don't need to incorporate any of this into your makeup routine. You could do everything, or just a couple things . If you do want to incorporate anything, buy like 1 thing at a time and use it for a few days and see how your skin reacts to it, just making sure you don't break out. If you do breakout, you will know exactly what broke you up and you can return it.
Ill tell you what I do on a daily basis:
*Eye shadow (A mix of ABH MR or Self Made, with some Morphe color for my crease)
Setting or fixing spray( I like to layer the applications of the spray. most times I use both)
Sometimes I'll cream contour with my ABH cream contour kit
MUFE Face & Body foundation in 44/ Laura Mercier Oil free tinted moisturizer in mocha/ or Becca Ever Matte foundation in cacao (I think)
A mix of the innis free setting powder and Mario Badescu powder (must fight the oiliness!)
Contour with a sleek makeup contour thing the darkest shade
Nars blush in seduction ( I think)
Highlight with ABH illuminator in Peach nectar or Rivera
Laura Mercier secret brightening powder (places where I highlight)
Buff everything in with MUFE Pro Finsih powder in 178
Another layer of setting powder
*Liquid lipstick (Jeffree Star LL)
Most of the time I just use the NYX brow mascara. When I feel like it, I use the ABH dip brow and clean everything up with a NARS RCC in cafe/dark 1
Witch Hazel setting spray
Skindinavia Bridal fixing spray
I hope you kept up with me until the end. Do you have any questions? By the way, I am just a regular makeup user. I am not a pro makeup artist by any means. If I can't answer your questions, you could talk to one of the works at sephora or whatever, or this lovely sub.
Last but most importantly, CONGRATS!!
Buy mine off Amazon if that helps
Could you please edit the URLs for the Thayer's Witch Hazel, Equate Cleansing Wipes, and SAL3 Soap Bar so that everything from (and including) "tag=" is removed? That way, the product page will still be visible - but no one can make a profit from the link. Here are the tag-free URLs for an easy copy & paste:
Thayer's Witch Hazel (both AM and PM):
Equate Cleansing Wipes:
SAL3 Soap Bar:
I've gotten bottles from Walgreens & Target before. I've been using it a LONG time, even before seeing this subreddit. I know you can also order it on Amazon
You could also try this if you’re in the USA
Thayer’s Rose Toner
Thayers Alcohol-free Rose Petal Witch Hazel with Aloe Vera
I'm getting married in six months! I want to improve my skin so I've been perusing this subreddit for a while and I've been trying to build and improve my current skin care routine, but I feel like I need some help.
I would love to use clean and non toxic products!
I did struggle with acne before I developed my routine. Honestly, the routine I have right now is more of just maintenance, not necessarily acne fighting besides my AHA lotion. Like yours, my face was breaking out and very irritated so on a whim I tried to just put raw honey on my face for like 30-40 minutes lol. I did that every day until my face was clear along with diligent hydration and SPF. I was really surprised since I never considered using natural remedies, and I know it may not work for everyone, but I would definitely recommend this to anyone with irritated skin!
This is the toner I use. It's not SUPER hydating, but I find that it really helps my skin be less red and does have some moisturising components such as glycerin and aloe.
For my hydrating milk I use this. I like it a lot but it's kinda greasy looking, I don't really care because this is my PM routine haha. This product is also very good and highly regarded on SCA. It says lotion, but is actually the consistency of a toner. The only reason why I don't use it is because I already have the Thayer's but would love to try it.
Pretty cheap products and they work great for me. If you have any more questions let me know !:)
I'm a guy with almost no experience with skincare. My mother recommended me a routine with mostly non-AB products to help with my acne, but I want your guys' input on how I can improve it considering I have no idea what the stuff actually does.
I have a few questions. First, I know the word toner can mean many different things. How does the one I use compare to something like the Hada Labo Gokujyun Lotion?
Next, what should I add/change to my routine? It isn't quite giving the results I want and I don't know where to start. I'm thinking about trying the previously mentioned Gokujyun Lotion or a different moisturizer as the one I'm using doesn't feel hydrating enough. Thanks!
I use this rose scented witch hazel
Works well if I'm not having to subject my hands to too much torture
I know it's not a Lush product but this is great. They also have it at Target.
Thayers Alcohol-free Rose Petal Witch Hazel with Aloe Vera, 12 oz [link]
I recommend you add Thayers Witch Hazel, use this after you wash your face. It has good reviews. It cleanses and moisturizes skin. Its alcohol free and has Aloe Vera. It does have a soft rose fragrance. Even adding a benzoyl peroxide cream to put all over your face to help kill the acne causing bacteria could be beneficial. The vitamin C I would do at night I would put that on before the moisturizer and let it soak in for a bit then moisturize.
Another thing you could try are sulfur masks, it looks like you have cysts to a certain extent. Sulfur masks helped my cystic acne and blackheads whiteheads etc. If your skin isn't sensitive I'd recommend you try it. Use it once or twice a week. Acne free has a sulfur mask.
Here's a link on Amazon for the witch hazel and sulfur mask.
Yeah I think that's the same one I have, I use this one I got on Amazon.
Hi all, reading up on application order, pH, etc. and could use some feedback. My nightly routine is pretty simple, but I'd like to try incorporating niacinamide. I've built this over the last year or so while lurking here and my previously oily combination skin has improved quite a bit (hooray for no more cystic acne!) to a mild combination/normal. I still deal with a few small zits a week, plus residual PIH, discoloration, and unevenness from a history of skin picking (I know, here's a pitchfork for you). I also have some food sensitivities (dairy, oats, and tomatoes mainly) that I monitor to keep skin consequences to a minimum.
What would you suggest to try, change, or cut out of my routine? I'm in the U.S. with friends overseas, so I usually don't have a problem getting products.
Splash of water and/or a swipe of Thayer's Alochol-free Rose Petal Witch Hazel with Aloe Vera, let dry
Apply Innisfree Green Tea Balancing Lotion
Apply Shiseido Senka Mineral Water UV Gel SPF50
ALL THE MAKEUPS! (Tarte Amazonian Clay Tinted Moisturizer, Neutrogena blush, NYX Set it and Forget It loose powder, then whatever variety of shadow, liner, and mascara I'm feeling that day)
I usually apply the Innisfree and sunscreen at the same time.
Probably could be better about cleaning my six million brushes. Ugh.
PM: done 4-5 times per week
Cleanse with Purpose Gentle Cleansing Wash (sometimes just Thayer's Witch Hazel if I didn't wear makeup that day)
Innisfree Green Tea Balancing Lotion, pat dry
OR: done 1-2 times per week
Cleanse with Snow River Wood Oil (mineral oil)
Stridex (red box), wait 20-30 minutes
Apply Innisfree Green Tea Balancing lotion, pat dry
If my skin feels tight or if the weather is cold and dry, I may add a touch of Vaseline (tube, not tub, so I'm not digging my fingers into it).
Thank you! <3
EDIT: Skin type and formatting, yo.
If you're looking for a cheap western ph-adjusting toner, Thayers witch hazel alcohol-free (rose petal/aloe and lavander/aloe) are lovely.
Used to happen to me, also. Now I tone with Thayers Alcohol-free Rose Petal Witch Hazel with Aloe Vera right after shaving and it stopped the problem. YMMV.
Good luck :)
By the way I do this at the gym immediately. Then try to wash and lotion when I get home sooner rather than later
Alcohol is TERRIBLE for your skin! Some info if you'd like to read about it
If you would like to use witch hazel try an alcohol free version such as Thayer's
Have you tried spot treating with Benzoyl Peroxide or Tea Tree Oil?
Try this one
This one from Thayer’s is really great! It does have witch hazel, but the formula is mild enough that it still works really well for me.
I was thinking about getting this (amazon).
It's Thayer's but with rose. Do you think the rose would be irritating/drying?