What is Reddit's opinion of The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power?

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I was listening to an EconTalk with Shoshana Zuboff about her book "Surveillance Capitalism". She mentioned how tech giants have this cycle of getting their products out in the market:

1. Do whatever they want
2. When someone complains about it, just stonewall them for years
3. During these years, keep producing the products, keep extracting data. She called this habituation.
4. Years later, when the lawsuit finally reaches it ends, barely anyone knows wtf they were complaining about in the first place, and, by then, people are just accustomed to these data extracting products being in their homes.
   1. But if they have to do something, then do something small and meaningless that doesn't change the fact that they're fleecing everybody for their data.

For anyone still on the fence around the potential dangers of surveillance like this please read this book immediately:

The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power https://www.amazon.com/dp/1610395697/

We have unknowingly given these companies ultimate power over our future. Three men control the majority of the world's opinions and have the ability to force their worldview on everyone.

The feeling of “inevitableness” is part of the strategy google and other data company’s are pushing so we feel helpless to stop them. Stop being helpless and merely accept the digital world the way (and extremely lucrative) Google and Facebook want it to be.

You don’t have to take my word for it. Harvard’s Shoshana Zuboff’s 2019 book The Age of Surveillance Capitalism is a fantastic overview.

Well I'm glad Apple users are being forced to wake up at least. There's a mighty solid apathy about surveillance in most Apple users.

And speaking of surveillance and how it has already turned the world on its head, this is also available in audio so your can get your wake-up on in the car.

No. We're already products (Free services from Google, YouTube...). Do not want to subject myself to that type of physical quantification and control.

I recommend that you read this book: The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power https://www.amazon.ca/dp/1610395697/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_fDZfFbS565K16

I'm hijacking this comment to beg people to read "the age of surveillance capitalism" I'll put a link below. Bo (who I actually don't care for as a comedian that much, sorry bud) is touching on some very complicated topics that really deserve more of your attention. It's a long and dense read but it's extremely well deduced and quite easy to follow.

https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697?ref=d6k_applink_bb_dls&dplnkId=d6fb3f09-1caa-40a1-a8a3-ad5d949ba80c

What the fuck does that mean? Social constructs do have a lot of value, but why do you assume zimbabwe does not have that? If anything the global south has found itself increasingly held hostage to debt traps enforced by the IMF and the world bank. These countries are not under developed they are over exploited. The amount of "value" that zimbabwe contains in its borders is immense (although I think you just used that as a example of the whole global south) And the amount of "Value" that the west contains is directly proportional to the amount that they can steal from underdeveloped nation. And you want to lecture me about pyramid schemes?

The real value you are describing there is social interaction and co-existence. A community attempting to build something larger then themselves. When I see communities that are really trying to lower the barrier to the worldwide information exchange and trying to remove barriers to getting included in the global economy then the one I see right now with the greatest promise are crypto-currencies, with their quasi-pseudonyms nature and resistance to censorship, since they force a complete turnaround of the "surveillance capitalism" that was so confident it was the next stage of capitalism. If your interested in that topic heres a good book about it. https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697

So ill just keep really conveniently giving money to the people who worked for it and you can just keep being salty about it, I guess. Sure seems way more convenient to the artist friends of mine who again, make money from it.

In her book The Age of Surveillance Capitalism Shoshana Zuboff cites research showing that the average person would have to spend 67 full work days each year reading and understanding all of the Terms of Service and, importantly, all of their regular updates for all of the programs and applications they use.

People need to understand this. The data is <strong>everything</strong> to them.

Your behavior is the product.

They will fight tooth and nail to keep tracking your behavior.

Intense data mining and selling that data or analytics based on that data. The customers aren't the product, but their behavior is.

This book explains it pretty well (at least the first half of the book).

>Edit - Here's the book the woman featured in the podcast wrote, purchase it off amazon, a small, humble company that has never, and will never engage in any sort of surveillance capitalism or targeted advertising.................................. god damn, there's some irony for y'all. On that note, anybody remember before amazon sold all the matter in the known universe and it was strictly books? Peprid... you know what never mind.
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>https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697

Does anyone else not have a clue what this is even saying? Its barely coherent

The Harvard business school professor talks about numerous aspects and her book the Age of Surveillance Capitalism. (Warning: That link is to Amazon.com and the world's richest man will keep track of what you view and are thinking about.)

My favorite was her point that Facebook has contracts with third-party apps to gather information including a person's weight and menstrual cycles.

The professor's point is not to focus on Facebook's fetish on women's periods, but to understand this from a macro economic viewpoint and as part of a system.

https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697

https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697

Absolutely. I recommend this to everyone who wants to better understand what is at stake https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697

This one? Had no idea this was a book, but it makes sense.

Highly recommend

https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697/ref=nodl_

Here is the book. Don't buy from Amazon though. https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697/

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Harvard Professor Emeritus Shoshana Zuboff’s: The Age of Surveillance Capitalism - The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power

&quot;From the very first page I was consumed with an overwhelming imperative: <em>everyone needs to read this book as an act of digital self-defense.</em>&quot; -Naomi Klein

Now, go read:

https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697

Now, go read:

https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697

Anthropology/Philosophy/Sociology

https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697

Qualche riflessione in ordine sparso:

Privacy e Capitalismo della Sorveglianza: prima o poi i nodi sarebbero venuti al pettine. Un modello di business che si basa sulla cessione gratuita di dati a compagnie private statunitensi in cambio di servizi gratuiti, ha avuto effetti dirompenti. Rimando a questo libro interessante, di cui ho letto solo qualche estratto per ora, che conia l'espressione azzeccata di capitalismo della sorveglianza: https://www.amazon.it/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697

Narrazioni: le narrazioni dei nerd che dal garage di Silicon Valley cambiano il mondo, sono carine, ma poco attinenti con la realtà. Precisiamo, il mondo lo hanno cambiato veramente, ma il comparto tecnologico è stato pompato e agevolato in ogni modo (perché, giustamente, ritenuto strategico) con un accordo non scritto: libertà di essere fast and furious, disruptive in cambio delle backdoor. Neanche la Stasi o il KGB avrebbero sognato un tale livello di accesso alle informazioni private dei propri cittadini, e dei cittadini di altre nazioni.

Narrazioni sull'orlo di una crisi di nervi: la narrazione dei nerd dei garage, dei programmatori occhialuti, degli shamani digitali non poteva che crollare di fronte alla realtà. Il caso Snowden, Cambridge Analytica (e le altre dozzine di scandali di Facebook), l'elezione di Trump. Che i giovani disruptive di Menlo Park, Cupertino, Silicon Valley, non fossero poi molto diversi dai capitalisti che li avevano preceduti?

Nuovo equilibrio: adesso che nessuno si fida più delle fregnacce di Zuck, delle promesse di rispettare la privacy di big G, ecc. ecc. un equilibrio si è incrinato e bisognerà vedere in base a quali regole se ne creerà uno nuovo. Anche il Congresso (buongiorno!) si chiede: è una buona idea che queste compagnie possiedano così tanti dati? che comprino ogni potenziale competitor? che sulle loro piattaforme si diffondano fake news più rapidamente di un incendio nel continente australiano? che radano al suolo interi comparti non capaci di muoversi al loro ritmo?

La Cina è vicina: però dall'altra parte del mondo la Cina si avvicina a passi da gigante. Indebolire i FANG aiuterà il grande fratello avvolto nella bandiera rossa? Anche l'automa Zuck ha recitato quanto scrittogli dai suoi avvocati sulla guerra fredda 2.0. Se il capitalismo della sorveglianza genera preoccupazione, che dire del "sistema di credito sociale"? Orwell in confronto...

Viviamo tempi interessanti.