{"product":{"product_id":"1610395697","title":"The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power","price":"21.49","image_url":"https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41TGOadjwHL._SL500_.jpg","url":"https://www.amazon.com/dp/1610395697"},"comments":[{"body":"I was listening to an EconTalk with Shoshana Zuboff about her book \"[Surveillance Capitalism](https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697)\". She mentioned how tech giants have this cycle of getting their products out in the market:\r\n\r\n1. Do whatever they want\r\n2. When someone complains about it, just stonewall them for *years*\r\n3. During these years, keep producing the products, keep extracting data. She called this habituation. \r\n4. Years later, when the lawsuit finally reaches it ends, barely anyone knows wtf they were complaining about in the first place, and, by then, people are just accustomed to these data extracting products being in their homes.\r\n   1. But if they have to do something, then do something small and meaningless that doesn't change the fact that they're fleecing everybody for their data.","subreddit_name":"unpopularopinion","author":"BlackAnarchy"},{"body":"For anyone still on the fence around the potential dangers of surveillance like this please read this book immediately:\r\n\r\nThe Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power https://www.amazon.com/dp/1610395697/\r\n\r\nWe have unknowingly given these companies ultimate power over our future. Three men control the majority of the world's opinions and have the ability to force their worldview on everyone.","subreddit_name":"Futurology","author":"rational_faultline"},{"body":"The feeling of “inevitableness” is part of the strategy google and other data company’s are pushing so we feel helpless to stop them. Stop being helpless and merely accept the digital world the way (and extremely lucrative) Google and Facebook want it to be. \r\n\r\nYou don’t have to take my word for it. Harvard’s Shoshana Zuboff’s 2019 book [The Age of Surveillance Capitalism ](https://www.amazon.ca/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?adgrpid=60521744789\u0026amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwpuXpBRAAEiwAyRRPgXPLFut_KAJVcT5_egmQoJnWXTrW4IGnVUB2nkUDtVhewEmkuySJiRoCpwQQAvD_BwE\u0026amp;hvadid=310046272996\u0026amp;hvdev=m\u0026amp;hvlocphy=9000927\u0026amp;hvnetw=g\u0026amp;hvpos=1t2\u0026amp;hvqmt=b\u0026amp;hvrand=13167388857381742543\u0026amp;hvtargid=kwd-423413579963\u0026amp;hydadcr=8738_10281529\u0026amp;keywords=age+of+surveillance+capitalism\u0026amp;qid=1564097364\u0026amp;s=gateway\u0026amp;smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB\u0026amp;sr=8-1) is a fantastic overview.","subreddit_name":"toronto","author":"dranspants"},{"body":"Well I'm glad Apple users are being forced to wake up at least. There's a mighty solid apathy about surveillance in most Apple users. \r\n\r\n[And speaking of surveillance and how it has already turned the world on its head,](https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697) this is also available in audio so your can get your wake-up on in the car.","subreddit_name":"Mercerinfo","author":"fuzzo"},{"body":"No. We're already products (Free services from Google, YouTube...). Do not want to subject myself to that type of physical quantification and control.\r\n\r\nI recommend that you read this book: The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power https://www.amazon.ca/dp/1610395697/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_fDZfFbS565K16","subreddit_name":"ottawa","author":"Mereo110"},{"body":"I'm hijacking this comment to beg people to read \"the age of surveillance capitalism\" I'll put a link below.  Bo (who I actually don't care for as a comedian that much, sorry bud) is touching on some very complicated topics that really deserve more of your attention.  It's a long and dense read but it's extremely well deduced and quite easy to follow.\r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697?ref=d6k_applink_bb_dls\u0026amp;dplnkId=d6fb3f09-1caa-40a1-a8a3-ad5d949ba80c","subreddit_name":"TikTokCringe","author":"speakingcraniums"},{"body":"What the fuck does that mean?  Social constructs do have a lot of value, but why do you assume zimbabwe does not have that?  If anything the global south has found itself increasingly held hostage to debt traps enforced by the IMF and the world bank.  These countries are not under developed they are over exploited. The amount of \"value\" that zimbabwe contains in its borders is immense (although I think you just used that as a example of the whole global south)  And the amount of \"Value\" that the west contains is directly proportional to the amount that they can steal from underdeveloped nation.  And you want to lecture me about pyramid schemes? \r\n\r\nThe real value you are describing there is social interaction and co-existence. A community attempting to build something larger then themselves.  When I see communities that are really trying to lower the barrier to the worldwide information exchange and trying to remove barriers to getting included in the global economy then the one I see right now with the greatest promise are crypto-currencies, with their quasi-pseudonyms nature and resistance to censorship, since they force a complete turnaround of the \"surveillance capitalism\" that was so confident it was the next stage of capitalism. If your interested in that topic heres a good book about it. https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697\r\n\r\nSo ill just keep really conveniently giving money to the people who worked for it and you can just keep being salty about it, I guess. Sure seems way more convenient to the artist friends of mine who again, make money from it.","subreddit_name":"SelfAwarewolves","author":"speakingcraniums"},{"body":"In her book [The Age of Surveillance Capitalism](https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697) Shoshana Zuboff cites research showing that the average person would have to spend 67 full work days each year reading and understanding all of the Terms of Service and, importantly, all of their regular updates for all of the programs and applications they use.","subreddit_name":"memes","author":"Dicknosed_Shitlicker"},{"body":"People need to understand this. [The data is **everything** to them](https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697).\r\n\r\n***Your behavior is the product.***\r\n\r\nThey will fight tooth and nail to keep tracking your behavior.","subreddit_name":"europe","author":"powerduality"},{"body":"Intense data mining and selling that data or analytics based on that data. The customers aren't the product, but their behavior is.\r\n\r\n[This book explains it pretty well (at least the first half of the book).](https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697)","subreddit_name":"teslainvestorsclub","author":"powerduality"},{"body":"\u0026gt;Edit - Here's the book the woman featured in the podcast wrote, purchase it off amazon, a small, humble company that has never, and will never engage in any sort of surveillance capitalism or targeted advertising.................................. god damn, there's some irony for y'all. On that note, anybody remember before amazon sold all the matter in the known universe and it was strictly books? Peprid... you know what never mind.   \r\n\u0026gt;  \r\n\u0026gt;https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697\r\n\r\nDoes anyone else not have a clue what this is even saying? Its barely coherent","subreddit_name":"news","author":"daniel_ricciardo"},{"body":"The Harvard business school professor talks about numerous aspects and her book the [Age of Surveillance Capitalism](https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697/). (Warning: That link is to Amazon.com and the world's richest man will keep track of what you view and are thinking about.)\r\n\r\nMy favorite was her point that Facebook has contracts with third-party apps to gather information including a person's weight and menstrual cycles.\r\n\r\nThe professor's point is not to focus on Facebook's fetish on women's periods, but to understand this from a macro economic viewpoint and as part of a system.","subreddit_name":"privacy","author":"IntnsRed"},{"body":"https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697","subreddit_name":"NoNewNormal","author":"trvlngrvrsdblues"},{"body":"https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697","subreddit_name":"NoNewNormal","author":"dust-catcher"},{"body":"Absolutely.  I recommend this to everyone who wants to better understand what is at stake https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697","subreddit_name":"space","author":"Lucky_Air_8650"}]}